NJ to teach gender lessons

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.

100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).

And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.

100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).

And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.

Texas is violating the Constitution and SCOTUS ruling. It’s a universal violation of human rights.

NJ is updating its public school curriculum. You want the federal government to mandate what all states teach?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Transgender people are only 0.06 % of the population.

In any middle school today it’s about 20%.

The bigots clearly don’t know any young kids today.

Can you please explain what you mean by this? My kids aren't in middle school yet.

You are in for quite the shock with how and what schools are teaching very young kids regarding this issue. Basically, they believe that they are better equipped to deal with your child if they are confused regarding gender and in many states are prohibited from telling the kid's parents if the child is struggling, wants to be called by a different pronoun, etc. They then offer "guidance" to your kid, in many cases basically trying to get them to affirm they are of the opposite gender, all with legal restrictions not allowing the parents to be informed unless the minor child decides it's okay. There are multiple lawsuits around the country regarding this policy, a few of the most recent linked below. Many experts working with true trans young adults are finally starting to speak out regarding the harm this movement to push kids to consider themselves gender fluid is doing to minors. Anyone with kids knows they are not equipped either through mental maturity or through life experiences to understand what it really means when it comes to making permanent changes that will be with you for life at 13 or 15 or so. Honestly, think about when you were 13 or 15. Would you want that person you were then making decisions that would permanently alter your life as you know it? This is what all these activists are after, for what reason - well that is the million dollar question.

NH - https://news.yahoo.com/manchester-mom-sues-school-district-235000287.html
CA - https://nypost.com/2022/01/24/mother-sues-teachers-for-brainwashing-student-to-identify-as-transgender/
MASS - https://www.masslive.com/news/2022/04/parents-file-federal-lawsuit-against-ludlow-school-officials-over-gender-identity-protocols.html
FL - In the Florida case, January and Jeffery Littlejohn of Tallahassee, Florida, filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Florida last month after Deerlake Middle School failed to notify them that their daughter had entered a school-sanctioned gender transition plan. The school claimed nondiscrimination law barred them from informing the parents about the meeting with their daughter, in which they orchestrated the gender-transition plan.

Regarding the 20% of middle school kids, PP is probably correct in that they claim such, but in reality they are following a trend. Per a trans psychologist who has helped many transition (Today's DM):

"For a while, we were all happy that society was becoming more accepting and more families than ever were embracing children that were gender variant,’ she told the Los Angeles Times. ‘I think it’s gone too far. Now it’s got to the point where there are kids presenting at clinics whose parents say, “This just doesn’t make sense”. ‘To flatly say there couldn’t be any social influence in formation of gender identity flies in the face of reality. Teenagers influence each other.’ Dr Anderson supports puberty blockers and hormone therapy for teens, but says they should be given only after strict examinations to ensure that the youth is ready to transition. She revealed she has already intervened on a hormone therapy session for a 13-year-old who identified as male but had yet to meet with a psychologist. And she has warned fellow members of the American Psychological Association committee – tasked with writing transgender healthcare guidelines – to pursue rigorous evaluations for patients to avoid committing malpractice. I have a dictum: When in doubt, doubt,’ she told the paper."

She is advocating for stricter guidelines, not to ban affirmation.

Yes, with rigorous psychological testing because she feels many teens right now are following a trend and those we trust to guide them are basically not doing their job properly. Malpractice I believe is the word she uses. I don't agree with affirmation at that age as she does, but at least she is on board with extensive psychoanalysis to see if the kid is truly trans or succumbing to being mixed up combined with peer pressure.

I don’t think anyone would disagree that medical professionals should be following established guidelines around affirmation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.

100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).

And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.

Texas is violating the Constitution and SCOTUS ruling. It’s a universal violation of human rights.

NJ is updating its public school curriculum. You want the federal government to mandate what all states teach?

Its not a universal violation if its confined fo Texas.

Also, Florida was updating its curricula and that caused massive protest. Disney is about to lose their tax exempt status because they decided they cant abide a situation where no one talks to K-5 kids about sex.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.

100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).

And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.

Texas is violating the Constitution and SCOTUS ruling. It’s a universal violation of human rights.

NJ is updating its public school curriculum. You want the federal government to mandate what all states teach?

Its not a universal violation if its confined fo Texas.

Also, Florida was updating its curricula and that caused massive protest. Disney is about to lose their tax exempt status because they decided they cant abide a situation where no one talks to K-5 kids about sex.

Exactly. The media purposely called it the "Don't Say Gay Bill" even though the word "gay" never appeared in the bill at all. What is happening in NJ with their current curriculum can't happen now in Florida because of the bill. A majority of parents do not want their young kids grades K-3 to receive instruction about gender and sexuality.

[Anonymous]

The AMA wants to do away with gender altogether. https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/news/20210616/remove-sex-from-public-birth-certificates-ama-says

I have trouble understand why the left want affirm gender while also denying its existence. I find it baffling and incoherent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.

100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).

And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.

Texas is violating the Constitution and SCOTUS ruling. It’s a universal violation of human rights.

NJ is updating its public school curriculum. You want the federal government to mandate what all states teach?

Its not a universal violation if its confined fo Texas.

Also, Florida was updating its curricula and that caused massive protest. Disney is about to lose their tax exempt status because they decided they cant abide a situation where no one talks to K-5 kids about sex.

Poorly worded. It’s a violation of universal human rights. And the SCOTUS ruling/constitution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.

100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).

And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.

Texas is violating the Constitution and SCOTUS ruling. It’s a universal violation of human rights.

NJ is updating its public school curriculum. You want the federal government to mandate what all states teach?

Its not a universal violation if its confined fo Texas.

Also, Florida was updating its curricula and that caused massive protest. Disney is about to lose their tax exempt status because they decided they cant abide a situation where no one talks to K-5 kids about sex.

Exactly. The media purposely called it the "Don't Say Gay Bill" even though the word "gay" never appeared in the bill at all. What is happening in NJ with their current curriculum can't happen now in Florida because of the bill. A majority of parents do not want their young kids grades K-3 to receive instruction about gender and sexuality.

The Florida bill is discriminatory.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/02/17/florida-advances-dont-say-gay-bill#

a bill that would restrict discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in schools.

The bill would ban discussing these issues in primary schools and restrict how they are discussed in other grades if they are deemed “not age-appropriate.” However, it does not specify what would be considered age-appropriate, or who decides. Any parent could sue their child’s school for compensation for alleged harm if they believe those discussions have occurred. The likely outcome of the bill would be to deter teachers from addressing these issues and to chill open discussions and support for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.

100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).

And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.

Texas is violating the Constitution and SCOTUS ruling. It’s a universal violation of human rights.

NJ is updating its public school curriculum. You want the federal government to mandate what all states teach?

Its not a universal violation if its confined fo Texas.

Also, Florida was updating its curricula and that caused massive protest. Disney is about to lose their tax exempt status because they decided they cant abide a situation where no one talks to K-5 kids about sex.

Exactly. The media purposely called it the "Don't Say Gay Bill" even though the word "gay" never appeared in the bill at all. What is happening in NJ with their current curriculum can't happen now in Florida because of the bill. A majority of parents do not want their young kids grades K-3 to receive instruction about gender and sexuality.

The Florida bill is discriminatory.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/02/17/florida-advances-dont-say-gay-bill#

a bill that would restrict discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in schools.

The bill would ban discussing these issues in primary schools and restrict how they are discussed in other grades if they are deemed “not age-appropriate.” However, it does not specify what would be considered age-appropriate, or who decides. Any parent could sue their child’s school for compensation for alleged harm if they believe those discussions have occurred. The likely outcome of the bill would be to deter teachers from addressing these issues and to chill open discussions and support for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) students.

Its not discriminatory. Heterosexuals and "cis" people cant talk about it either. I guess the kids will have to focus on math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.

100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).

And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.

Texas is violating the Constitution and SCOTUS ruling. It’s a universal violation of human rights.

NJ is updating its public school curriculum. You want the federal government to mandate what all states teach?

Its not a universal violation if its confined fo Texas.

Also, Florida was updating its curricula and that caused massive protest. Disney is about to lose their tax exempt status because they decided they cant abide a situation where no one talks to K-5 kids about sex.

Poorly worded. It’s a violation of universal human rights. And the SCOTUS ruling/constitution.

The idea that abortions are a universal right is controversial at best. The US has much more access to abortions than even other liberal, western nations. People just arent as into abortion outside of America. Even within America, which has among the most permissive attirudes about abortion in the world, 75% of people think there should be some restrictions on it.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/

So while you may believe it is a universal right, most people don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.

100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).

And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.

Texas is violating the Constitution and SCOTUS ruling. It’s a universal violation of human rights.

NJ is updating its public school curriculum. You want the federal government to mandate what all states teach?

Its not a universal violation if its confined fo Texas.

Also, Florida was updating its curricula and that caused massive protest. Disney is about to lose their tax exempt status because they decided they cant abide a situation where no one talks to K-5 kids about sex.

Poorly worded. It’s a violation of universal human rights. And the SCOTUS ruling/constitution.

The idea that abortions are a universal right is controversial at best. The US has much more access to abortions than even other liberal, western nations. People just arent as into abortion outside of America. Even within America, which has among the most permissive attirudes about abortion in the world, 75% of people think there should be some restrictions on it.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/

So while you may believe it is a universal right, most people don't.

The Texas ban goes way beyond “some restrictions”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.

100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).

And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.

Texas is violating the Constitution and SCOTUS ruling. It’s a universal violation of human rights.

NJ is updating its public school curriculum. You want the federal government to mandate what all states teach?

Its not a universal violation if its confined fo Texas.

Also, Florida was updating its curricula and that caused massive protest. Disney is about to lose their tax exempt status because they decided they cant abide a situation where no one talks to K-5 kids about sex.

Exactly. The media purposely called it the "Don't Say Gay Bill" even though the word "gay" never appeared in the bill at all. What is happening in NJ with their current curriculum can't happen now in Florida because of the bill. A majority of parents do not want their young kids grades K-3 to receive instruction about gender and sexuality.

The Florida bill is discriminatory.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/02/17/florida-advances-dont-say-gay-bill#

a bill that would restrict discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in schools.

The bill would ban discussing these issues in primary schools and restrict how they are discussed in other grades if they are deemed “not age-appropriate.” However, it does not specify what would be considered age-appropriate, or who decides. Any parent could sue their child’s school for compensation for alleged harm if they believe those discussions have occurred. The likely outcome of the bill would be to deter teachers from addressing these issues and to chill open discussions and support for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) students.

Its not discriminatory. Heterosexuals and "cis" people cant talk about it either. I guess the kids will have to focus on math.

So a gay Kindergarten teacher can’t mention his husband? But the straight teachers can?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Transgender people are only 0.06 % of the population.

In any middle school today it’s about 20%.

The bigots clearly don’t know any young kids today.

Perhaps you don't really know kids today and you should educate yourself more on the topic. The latest Gallup poll showed 20.8% of Gen Z identifies as LGBQT so basically 1 out of 5 kids. It is double the percentage of millennials (10.5%) and Gen X is only 4.2%.

So at the risk of poking the hornet nest, here I go anyway because someone needs to say it.

This isn't good. It is bad that so many young people are reporting this.

I am old enough to remember before.

In the old days gays and lesbians would say that they were otherwise normal men or women that for reasons they didn't understand and didn't choose, were attracted to their own sex. They wanted to be treated with the dignity and respect that any human deserved and allowed to live their lives pursuing love and happiness as they chose.

The initial wave of transpeople were a tiny slice of the population and whether for biological or psychological reasons they felt with absolute conviction that their gender did not match their actual biological sex. They also said that it was absolutely not a choice and was an immutable part of their being that could not be changed.

Now, in the space of a sliver of time in biological terms we have 1 in 5 young adults identifying as LGBTQ and 12% (1 in 8) identifying as something other than a man or a woman. (For comparison, 13-14% of the US population is black.)

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/survey-20-percent-millennials-identify-lgbtq-n740791

If this is biological, then something absolutely massive has changed in only the last few decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.

100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).

And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.

Texas is violating the Constitution and SCOTUS ruling. It’s a universal violation of human rights.

NJ is updating its public school curriculum. You want the federal government to mandate what all states teach?

Its not a universal violation if its confined fo Texas.

Also, Florida was updating its curricula and that caused massive protest. Disney is about to lose their tax exempt status because they decided they cant abide a situation where no one talks to K-5 kids about sex.

Exactly. The media purposely called it the "Don't Say Gay Bill" even though the word "gay" never appeared in the bill at all. What is happening in NJ with their current curriculum can't happen now in Florida because of the bill. A majority of parents do not want their young kids grades K-3 to receive instruction about gender and sexuality.

The Florida bill is discriminatory.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/02/17/florida-advances-dont-say-gay-bill#

a bill that would restrict discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in schools.

The bill would ban discussing these issues in primary schools and restrict how they are discussed in other grades if they are deemed “not age-appropriate.” However, it does not specify what would be considered age-appropriate, or who decides. Any parent could sue their child’s school for compensation for alleged harm if they believe those discussions have occurred. The likely outcome of the bill would be to deter teachers from addressing these issues and to chill open discussions and support for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) students.

Its not discriminatory. Heterosexuals and "cis" people cant talk about it either. I guess the kids will have to focus on math.

So a gay Kindergarten teacher can’t mention his husband? But the straight teachers can?

Of course that isn't what the post you are responding to said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.

100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).

And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.

Texas is violating the Constitution and SCOTUS ruling. It’s a universal violation of human rights.

NJ is updating its public school curriculum. You want the federal government to mandate what all states teach?

Its not a universal violation if its confined fo Texas.

Also, Florida was updating its curricula and that caused massive protest. Disney is about to lose their tax exempt status because they decided they cant abide a situation where no one talks to K-5 kids about sex.

Exactly. The media purposely called it the "Don't Say Gay Bill" even though the word "gay" never appeared in the bill at all. What is happening in NJ with their current curriculum can't happen now in Florida because of the bill. A majority of parents do not want their young kids grades K-3 to receive instruction about gender and sexuality.

The Florida bill is discriminatory.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/02/17/florida-advances-dont-say-gay-bill#

a bill that would restrict discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in schools.

The bill would ban discussing these issues in primary schools and restrict how they are discussed in other grades if they are deemed “not age-appropriate.” However, it does not specify what would be considered age-appropriate, or who decides. Any parent could sue their child’s school for compensation for alleged harm if they believe those discussions have occurred. The likely outcome of the bill would be to deter teachers from addressing these issues and to chill open discussions and support for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) students.

Its not discriminatory. Heterosexuals and "cis" people cant talk about it either. I guess the kids will have to focus on math.

So a gay Kindergarten teacher can’t mention his husband? But the straight teachers can?

Of course that isn't what the post you are responding to said.

We are discussing the discriminatory FL bill.