Kavanaugh vote postponed. Judiciary Committee hearing on Sexual Assault complain Monday.

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Anonymous wrote:If it has to be a man, we need more confirmed bachelors who live in cabins amongst books and dine on apples and plain yogurt. No skeletons. Just a devotion to plain living and judging.

Please. There's a reason Gorsuch, Roberts, etc. didn't have to fend off these sorts of unsavory allegations. It's because they're not unsavory people.

I have no doubt they have skeletons in their closets too. Almost everyone does.
Except for maybe my niece who entered a convent at age 18. I guess we could start looking for Supreme Court justices therebut they’d definitely be anti Roe v. wade.

No one is perfect but the reason that we are finding so many skeletons in the closet of Kavanaugh and not Roberts and Gorsuch is that Kavanaugh s a slimier person. GOP needs to do a better job vetting.

He was nominated for his belief that a sitting president shouldn’t be investigated or indicted.

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Anonymous wrote:The New Yorker could not independently verify that Kavanaugh was even at the party.

If this turns out to be a hit piece with no verification, Ronan Farrow has destroyed his reputation.

Keep reading the article. People were able to contemperaneously verify the claim.

There was an ear witness who heard an alleged other person say it was Kavanaugh. Lots of hearsay issues there. No eyewitnesses other than the alleged victim, if I’m reading it right. My two cents is it sounds believable.

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Anonymous wrote:Underwhelming. Exposing yourself while drinking actually is standard college fare, unlike attempted rape.

Where the hell did you go to college?

University of Iowa, c/o 2008. I'm surprised anyone is surprised?

I went to a SLAC that I won't name. graduated in 2000. I saw much crazier drunken and druggy behavior. I'm not surprised. The thing is, none of my crowd is nominated for SCOTUS, nor will we ever be.

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Anonymous wrote:The New Yorker could not independently verify that Kavanaugh was even at the party.

If this turns out to be a hit piece with no verification, Ronan Farrow has destroyed his reputation.

Keep reading the article. People were able to contemperaneously verify the claim.

There was an ear witness who heard an alleged other person say it was Kavanaugh. Lots of hearsay issues there. No eyewitnesses other than the alleged victim, if I’m reading it right. My two cents is it sounds believable.

Agree this is a more believable charge than CF's--Ramirez remembers where it was and about when. The charges are lesser, though.

Ramirez's story, not so unlike CF's, however, lacks corroboration and all the people she said were there deny it.

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So, the New Yorker story is pretty careful to say that Kavanaugh denies it, there were people who say they would have heard about it had it happened, and that it was out of character for him. On the other hand, you have the statement of the victim herself, of one or more people who heard about the incident contemporaneously, and of people who say it was totally in character for Kavanaugh to get drunk and mean. So, it's not conclusive, but it raises some pretty serious flags.

And, here's the damning part: upon hearing about this incident - while the Ford allegations are still hanging out there - the Senate committee that couldn't get around to interviewing Garland for 400 days decides that the proper course of action is to try to *accelerate* the timing of the vote.

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Anonymous wrote:Underwhelming. Exposing yourself while drinking actually is standard college fare, unlike attempted rape.

Where the hell did you go to college?

University of Iowa, c/o 2008. I'm surprised anyone is surprised?

I went to a SLAC that I won't name. graduated in 2000. I saw much crazier drunken and druggy behavior. I'm not surprised. The thing is, none of my crowd is nominated for SCOTUS, nor will we ever be.

Did he really not mention any of these incidents before the nomination's made or did the cracker jack crew believe they would not bubble up to plain view?

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Does anyone else think it’s scary that those with power and influence can come forward with bogus claims and destroy someone’s life just because they don’t like your politics? I’m a woman and not one shred of my being believes any of this. It’s simply not credible or substantiated in any way. This kind of underhanded slander that can come out of nowhere and destroy someone for no reason is truly alarming.

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Hey, at least no allegations of drug use.

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Anonymous wrote:Underwhelming. Exposing yourself while drinking actually is standard college fare, unlike attempted rape.

Where the hell did you go to college?

University of Iowa, c/o 2008. I'm surprised anyone is surprised?

I went to a SLAC that I won't name. graduated in 2000. I saw much crazier drunken and druggy behavior. I'm not surprised. The thing is, none of my crowd is nominated for SCOTUS, nor will we ever be.

Nobody gets nominated to the Supreme Court unless they went to Yale or Harvard. Full stop.

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Anonymous wrote:The New Yorker could not independently verify that Kavanaugh was even at the party.

If this turns out to be a hit piece with no verification, Ronan Farrow has destroyed his reputation.

Keep reading the article. People were able to contemperaneously verify the claim.

From the article:

The New Yorker has not confirmed with other eyewitnesses that Kavanaugh was present at the party.

After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections

One of the male classmates who Ramirez said egged on Kavanaugh denied any memory of the party. “I don’t think Brett would flash himself to Debbie, or anyone, for that matter,” he said. Asked why he thought Ramirez was making the allegation, he responded, “I have no idea.” The other male classmate who Ramirez said was involved in the incident commented, “I have zero recollection.”

In a statement, two of those male classmates who Ramirez alleged were involved in the incident, the wife of a third male student she said was involved, and three other classmates, Dino Ewing, Louisa Garry, and Dan Murphy, disputed Ramirez’s account of events

The former friend who was married to the male classmate alleged to be involved, and who signed the statement, said of Ramirez, “This is a woman I was best friends with. We shared intimate details of our lives. And I was never told this story by her, or by anyone else. It never came up. I didn’t see it; I never heard of it happening.”

The only "corroboration" comes from someone who wasn't there. Because we don't know this classmate's identity, we can't assess whether it's truly an "independent recollection":

A classmate of Ramirez’s, who declined to be identified because of the partisan battle over Kavanaugh’s nomination, said that another student told him about the incident either on the night of the party or in the next day or two. The classmate said that he is “one-hundred-per-cent sure” that he was told at the time that Kavanaugh was the student who exposed himself to Ramirez. He independently recalled many of the same details offered by Ramirez, including that a male student had encouraged Kavanaugh as he exposed himself.

Yes, it was a very even handed article. You just chose to ignore all the parts that supported her account,

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Anonymous wrote:Hey, at least no allegations of drug use.

Hah. I'm so old, I remember when Clinton was unacceptable because he probably did inhale.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think it’s scary that those with power and influence can come forward with bogus claims and destroy someone’s life just because they don’t like your politics? I’m a woman and not one shred of my being believes any of this. It’s simply not credible or substantiated in any way. This kind of underhanded slander that can come out of nowhere and destroy someone for no reason is truly alarming.

You can't have read the New Yorker article. I really can't believe that anyone could read that article and come away thinking K is the right choice for the Supreme Court - regardless of whether you think anything criminal happened.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think it’s scary that those with power and influence can come forward with bogus claims and destroy someone’s life just because they don’t like your politics? I’m a woman and not one shred of my being believes any of this. It’s simply not credible or substantiated in any way. This kind of underhanded slander that can come out of nowhere and destroy someone for no reason is truly alarming.

His,life is far from destroyed. But if I were him, I would be demanding an FBI investigation to clear my name. At least, if I was innocent.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think it’s scary that those with power and influence can come forward with bogus claims and destroy someone’s life just because they don’t like your politics? I’m a woman and not one shred of my being believes any of this. It’s simply not credible or substantiated in any way. This kind of underhanded slander that can come out of nowhere and destroy someone for no reason is truly alarming.

I’m a woman and I agree completely.

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I found the most credible part of the article what Kavanaugh's roommate said:

Several other classmates said that they believed Ramirez to be credible and honest, and vouched for her integrity. James Roche was roommates with Kavanaugh at the time of the alleged incident and is now the C.E.O. of a software company in San Francisco. “Debbie and I became close friends shortly after we both arrived at Yale,” he said. “She stood out as being exceptionally honest and gentle. I cannot imagine her making this up.” He said that he never witnessed Kavanaugh engage in any sexual misconduct, but did recall him being “frequently, incoherently drunk.” He described Ramirez as a vulnerable outsider. “Is it believable that she was alone with a wolfy group of guys who thought it was funny to sexually torment a girl like Debbie? Yeah, definitely. Is it believable that Kavanaugh was one of them? Yes.”