ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Brave 08 top players decided not to join FVU. No surprise knowing MV is coaching.

The irony is that these are the players MV asked who he should accept onto the FVU team. I guess these top players weren’t convinced in MV’s credibility with college coaches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brave 08 top players decided not to join FVU. No surprise knowing MV is coaching.

The irony is that these are the players MV asked who he should accept onto the FVU team. I guess these top players weren’t convinced in MV’s credibility with college coaches.

Where are they going?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Last four results
0-3 NVA
0-2 Brave
0-5 Arl
0-4 Beach

Charlotte SA next which will likely be a loss and Arl again in the schedule.

If i am a Braves parent I'd be wondering why FVU didn't take more Braves. Maybe this team will be better in 2-3 years when new player cycle thru but next year this might be worst team in VA.

But wins and losses aren't everything, what about development? Maybe a parent from the team can say.

Thanks NVA parent whose team sits in last place out of the VA teams right now. And that’s even after Union suffered major injuries and merger drama.

Stop with the nonsense. Just focus on your own DD’s development.

Lets stop the excuses. Its not because of the injuires. I watched them play. They had 19 on the roster but just a few girls on the team (not more than 5) had the speed, agressiveness and atletism to compete at the "ELITE" level. The rest are RL players that not sure what CW was thinking selecting these players. A parent next to me said over 100 girls were at last years tryout and saw a lot of talent that were turned away due to politics including some of the Braves girls that now have FVU Offers.

Also, CW is playing everyone. At this level, you are not going to win any games with this strategy unless you have a roster of 16 and everyone is a stud. He needs to create competition in the team. If everyone plays regardless of performance, why will the girls go out and give it their all. When a team wins, they attract top talent -- Arlington, Bethesda, etc.

Unfortunately, next season will be the same as other teams will bring on new talent and FVU will be recycling the same talent pool.

I’m sure I’m bias but my daughter was one of those kids turned away

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brave 08 top players decided not to join FVU. No surprise knowing MV is coaching.

The irony is that these are the players MV asked who he should accept onto the FVU team. I guess these top players weren’t convinced in MV’s credibility with college coaches.

Where are they going?

I was told offer given and accepted with VDA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last four results
0-3 NVA
0-2 Brave
0-5 Arl
0-4 Beach

Charlotte SA next which will likely be a loss and Arl again in the schedule.

If i am a Braves parent I'd be wondering why FVU didn't take more Braves. Maybe this team will be better in 2-3 years when new player cycle thru but next year this might be worst team in VA.

But wins and losses aren't everything, what about development? Maybe a parent from the team can say.

Thanks NVA parent whose team sits in last place out of the VA teams right now. And that’s even after Union suffered major injuries and merger drama.

Stop with the nonsense. Just focus on your own DD’s development.

Lets stop the excuses. Its not because of the injuires. I watched them play. They had 19 on the roster but just a few girls on the team (not more than 5) had the speed, agressiveness and atletism to compete at the "ELITE" level. The rest are RL players that not sure what CW was thinking selecting these players. A parent next to me said over 100 girls were at last years tryout and saw a lot of talent that were turned away due to politics including some of the Braves girls that now have FVU Offers.

Also, CW is playing everyone. At this level, you are not going to win any games with this strategy unless you have a roster of 16 and everyone is a stud. He needs to create competition in the team. If everyone plays regardless of performance, why will the girls go out and give it their all. When a team wins, they attract top talent -- Arlington, Bethesda, etc.

Unfortunately, next season will be the same as other teams will bring on new talent and FVU will be recycling the same talent pool.

Notice how the words skill and IQ were left out which are fairly important in this game but I guess that is NVA for you. Even so, I’ve seen the NVA 11’s play and they don’t possess a ton of what the PP considers elite attributes.

They are a fine U13 team who are working to develop just like everyone else but let’s not mistake them for a team that can be considered any better than the other VA teams.

Not saying its not important but when selecting players, your foundation should be those three and then you train for skill and IQ. You can't teach speed, atlethism and aggressivness. Kids are born with it. They can improve their speed by training but will never be as fast as a person that was born with it and has also been training.

WRONG!!!
speed is a skill. Nobody is born with speed .
Big bodies and aggressiveness is why USWNT is falling behind at the international stage in front of much faster and technical teams like Spain. Same goes for men too. Just ask pep guardiola. Being big and chasing the ball pushing everyone on your way is not Soccer. It is football (the other football lol).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last four results
0-3 NVA
0-2 Brave
0-5 Arl
0-4 Beach

Charlotte SA next which will likely be a loss and Arl again in the schedule.

If i am a Braves parent I'd be wondering why FVU didn't take more Braves. Maybe this team will be better in 2-3 years when new player cycle thru but next year this might be worst team in VA.

But wins and losses aren't everything, what about development? Maybe a parent from the team can say.

Yes, they're having a rough few games scoring. The girls are 13, they'll continue to improve. They also beat Charlotte SA the first time around so no reason to call that a loss.

What planet are you living on. You played 4 games and not score a single goal and you are on the forum saying they had a "few rough games not scoring". They just don't have a midfield and offense (zero). These past four games have been all defending in their half. Its just a matter of time goals are going to get in. Go watch the Arlington game to see if their Goalie even touched the ball from a shot from a union player. The only time our goalie touched the ball was when are defenders passed it back.

The Charlotte team has come a long way and that game was in the fall. Not sure if they trained in the summer and now they been training for 9 months now so I would not be took quick to say Union is going to beat them because of the fall outcome.

Arlington dads should go back to Arlington thread.

[Anonymous]

Looking ahead, FVU looks weak for 2012 and 2013 age groups.

2012s. NVA will be strong. SYC strong but GA. Arlington will be strong. Top players who would go to Union/Brave going instead to Arlington for MM. She coached that age group a few years ago at Mclean and Arlington and great reputation.

2013. Mclean, Loudon and SYC tops. SYC is GA. But with DB now at Loudon, expect consolidation at NVA in a year when they go ECNL and he will have that age group likely.

Conclusion. FVU will have challenges in the next few years.

[Anonymous]

GFR released their coaching slate.

NM has FVU girls DOC, FVU 06/07, assistant for FVU 10, assistant for FVU 09, GFR 12, assistant for GFR 09, assistant for GFR 06/07, assistant at Howard U.

ML has FVU 10, GFR 14, GFR 12, assistant for GFR 08.

Seriously spread thin much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looking ahead, FVU looks weak for 2012 and 2013 age groups.

2012s. NVA will be strong. SYC strong but GA. Arlington will be strong. Top players who would go to Union/Brave going instead to Arlington for MM. She coached that age group a few years ago at Mclean and Arlington and great reputation.

2013. Mclean, Loudon and SYC tops. SYC is GA. But with DB now at Loudon, expect consolidation at NVA in a year when they go ECNL and he will have that age group likely.

Conclusion. FVU will have challenges in the next few years.

There just ain't no way anybody is following DB anywhere. No chance.

[Anonymous]

bickering over mere 2011 infants...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last four results
0-3 NVA
0-2 Brave
0-5 Arl
0-4 Beach

Charlotte SA next which will likely be a loss and Arl again in the schedule.

If i am a Braves parent I'd be wondering why FVU didn't take more Braves. Maybe this team will be better in 2-3 years when new player cycle thru but next year this might be worst team in VA.

But wins and losses aren't everything, what about development? Maybe a parent from the team can say.

Thanks NVA parent whose team sits in last place out of the VA teams right now. And that’s even after Union suffered major injuries and merger drama.

Stop with the nonsense. Just focus on your own DD’s development.

Lets stop the excuses. Its not because of the injuires. I watched them play. They had 19 on the roster but just a few girls on the team (not more than 5) had the speed, agressiveness and atletism to compete at the "ELITE" level. The rest are RL players that not sure what CW was thinking selecting these players. A parent next to me said over 100 girls were at last years tryout and saw a lot of talent that were turned away due to politics including some of the Braves girls that now have FVU Offers.

Also, CW is playing everyone. At this level, you are not going to win any games with this strategy unless you have a roster of 16 and everyone is a stud. He needs to create competition in the team. If everyone plays regardless of performance, why will the girls go out and give it their all. When a team wins, they attract top talent -- Arlington, Bethesda, etc.

Unfortunately, next season will be the same as other teams will bring on new talent and FVU will be recycling the same talent pool.

Notice how the words skill and IQ were left out which are fairly important in this game but I guess that is NVA for you. Even so, I’ve seen the NVA 11’s play and they don’t possess a ton of what the PP considers elite attributes.

They are a fine U13 team who are working to develop just like everyone else but let’s not mistake them for a team that can be considered any better than the other VA teams.

Not saying its not important but when selecting players, your foundation should be those three and then you train for skill and IQ. You can't teach speed, atlethism and aggressivness. Kids are born with it. They can improve their speed by training but will never be as fast as a person that was born with it and has also been training.

WRONG!!!
speed is a skill. Nobody is born with speed .
Big bodies and aggressiveness is why USWNT is falling behind at the international stage in front of much faster and technical teams like Spain. Same goes for men too. Just ask pep guardiola. Being big and chasing the ball pushing everyone on your way is not Soccer. It is football (the other football lol).

I beg to differ on the speed comment. Some just have it. I hope your DD is not one of the slow ones and in your head your can go to Healthy Baller to train to be the fastest on the team. Give yourself a break and save your money. Will she improve maybe but will never be some of the fastest kids on the team.

The USWNT have issues with politics that is why they are falling behind. They have young talent that are technical and fast but are not called up since the selection is not merit based. They keep calling and playing the same old players that are passed their prime. In European, selection is mostly based on merit with a few exceptions.

Pep already knows talent wins games that is why Man City has spend a lot of money buying these players. They are stacked with studs. Even if Pep were to coach Union 2011G, Arlington will still win... not enough talent on the team. You would not even want that as the first day he comes 3/4th of the team will be let go. As good as he is, he knows he is not a miracle worker and needs talent to win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looking ahead, FVU looks weak for 2012 and 2013 age groups.

2012s. NVA will be strong. SYC strong but GA. Arlington will be strong. Top players who would go to Union/Brave going instead to Arlington for MM. She coached that age group a few years ago at Mclean and Arlington and great reputation.

2013. Mclean, Loudon and SYC tops. SYC is GA. But with DB now at Loudon, expect consolidation at NVA in a year when they go ECNL and he will have that age group likely.

Conclusion. FVU will have challenges in the next few years.

Except the top players from Vienna are going to FVU 2012. None to Arlington or NVA. Not sure where they will stand next year but they should be competitive.

Why would the 2013 McLean team break up their team and commute to Loudoun? Even the majority of 2011 Union players didn’t go there for DB. If they stay, then FVU 13 should be the best around.

Nice story though.

[Anonymous]

You people and your silly stories about little kids. In just a few short years you will realize that none of this matters and you will have wasted cycles for nothing. Find the right fit for kid. Where they are challenged, and play with/against good competition. Find a coach that believes in him/her. Do outside training as often as possible. The rest is just silly nonsense bickering amongst parents to see who can say they are the "best" team.
Give it time. You'll eventually come to understand that I'm right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking ahead, FVU looks weak for 2012 and 2013 age groups.

2012s. NVA will be strong. SYC strong but GA. Arlington will be strong. Top players who would go to Union/Brave going instead to Arlington for MM. She coached that age group a few years ago at Mclean and Arlington and great reputation.

2013. Mclean, Loudon and SYC tops. SYC is GA. But with DB now at Loudon, expect consolidation at NVA in a year when they go ECNL and he will have that age group likely.

Conclusion. FVU will have challenges in the next few years.

There just ain't no way anybody is following DB anywhere. No chance.

Why not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You people and your silly stories about little kids. In just a few short years you will realize that none of this matters and you will have wasted cycles for nothing. Find the right fit for kid. Where they are challenged, and play with/against good competition. Find a coach that believes in him/her. Do outside training as often as possible. The rest is just silly nonsense bickering amongst parents to see who can say they are the "best" team.
Give it time. You'll eventually come to understand that I'm right.

No you are right. I think we are just trying to determine what team is the best for our kids and that comes across here as nonsense bickering because a lot of it is speculative. We are trying to predict the future with our kids best fit in mind but that leads to disagreements. All fine, that is why we are here but that doesn't mean we shouldnt post.