ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

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Anonymous wrote:Last four results
0-3 NVA
0-2 Brave
0-5 Arl
0-4 Beach

Charlotte SA next which will likely be a loss and Arl again in the schedule.

If i am a Braves parent I'd be wondering why FVU didn't take more Braves. Maybe this team will be better in 2-3 years when new player cycle thru but next year this might be worst team in VA.

But wins and losses aren't everything, what about development? Maybe a parent from the team can say.

Thanks NVA parent whose team sits in last place out of the VA teams right now. And that’s even after Union suffered major injuries and merger drama.

Stop with the nonsense. Just focus on your own DD’s development.

Lets stop the excuses. Its not because of the injuires. I watched them play. They had 19 on the roster but just a few girls on the team (not more than 5) had the speed, agressiveness and atletism to compete at the "ELITE" level. The rest are RL players that not sure what CW was thinking selecting these players. A parent next to me said over 100 girls were at last years tryout and saw a lot of talent that were turned away due to politics including some of the Braves girls that now have FVU Offers.

Also, CW is playing everyone. At this level, you are not going to win any games with this strategy unless you have a roster of 16 and everyone is a stud. He needs to create competition in the team. If everyone plays regardless of performance, why will the girls go out and give it their all. When a team wins, they attract top talent -- Arlington, Bethesda, etc.

Unfortunately, next season will be the same as other teams will bring on new talent and FVU will be recycling the same talent pool.

Notice how the words skill and IQ were left out which are fairly important in this game but I guess that is NVA for you. Even so, I’ve seen the NVA 11’s play and they don’t possess a ton of what the PP considers elite attributes.

They are a fine U13 team who are working to develop just like everyone else but let’s not mistake them for a team that can be considered any better than the other VA teams.

Not saying its not important but when selecting players, your foundation should be those three and then you train for skill and IQ. You can't teach speed, atlethism and aggressivness. Kids are born with it. They can improve their speed by training but will never be as fast as a person that was born with it and has also been training.

WRONG!!!
speed is a skill. Nobody is born with speed .
Big bodies and aggressiveness is why USWNT is falling behind at the international stage in front of much faster and technical teams like Spain. Same goes for men too. Just ask pep guardiola. Being big and chasing the ball pushing everyone on your way is not Soccer. It is football (the other football lol).

Haaland?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:bickering over mere 2011 infants...

100%

[Anonymous]

“You can't teach speed, atlethism and aggressivness. Kids are born with it. They can improve their speed by training but will never be as fast as a person that was born with it “

“WRONG!!!
speed is a skill. Nobody is born with speed .
Big bodies and aggressiveness is why USWNT is falling behind at the international stage in front of much faster and technical teams like Spain. Same goes for men too. Just ask pep guardiola. Being big and chasing the ball pushing everyone on your way is not Soccer. It is football (the other football lol).

I beg to differ on the speed comment. Some just have it. I hope your DD is not one of the slow ones and in your head your can go to Healthy Baller to train to be the fastest on the team. Give yourself a break and save your money. Will she improve maybe but will never be some of the fastest kids on the team.

The USWNT have issues with politics that is why they are falling behind. They have young talent that are technical and fast but are not called up since the selection is not merit based. They keep calling and playing the same old players that are passed their prime. In European, selection is mostly based on merit with a few exceptions.

Pep already knows talent wins games that is why Man City has spend a lot of money buying these players. They are stacked with studs. Even if Pep were to coach Union 2011G, Arlington will still win... not enough talent on the team. You would not even want that as the first day he comes 3/4th of the team will be let go. As good as he is, he knows he is not a miracle worker and needs talent to win.



Speed is not a skill. Size is not a skill. Strength is not a skill.
Kids can train out imperfections in running form and max their natural ability. But you simply can’t train speed as a skill for improvement.

Pep’s team is littered with speed and size. His “coaching” is based on identifying and paying transfer fees for fully developed adults and implementing them into a system. Haaland is size and speed and not so much skill.

USWNT is really a politics game and they keep players too long. Emma Hayes is quite a character herself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You people and your silly stories about little kids. In just a few short years you will realize that none of this matters and you will have wasted cycles for nothing. Find the right fit for kid. Where they are challenged, and play with/against good competition. Find a coach that believes in him/her. Do outside training as often as possible. The rest is just silly nonsense bickering amongst parents to see who can say they are the "best" team.
Give it time. You'll eventually come to understand that I'm right.

No you are right. I think we are just trying to determine what team is the best for our kids and that comes across here as nonsense bickering because a lot of it is speculative. We are trying to predict the future with our kids best fit in mind but that leads to disagreements. All fine, that is why we are here but that doesn't mean we shouldnt post.

I'm not telling anyone not to post to gather information, but too much of the focus is on wins/losses and rankings, none of which matter. Outside training (speed, agility, foot skills, ball striking, working on the week foot, etc.) when the kids are young is probably THE most important development item for these kids - not finding the "best" team.

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Anonymous wrote:You people and your silly stories about little kids. In just a few short years you will realize that none of this matters and you will have wasted cycles for nothing. Find the right fit for kid. Where they are challenged, and play with/against good competition. Find a coach that believes in him/her. Do outside training as often as possible. The rest is just silly nonsense bickering amongst parents to see who can say they are the "best" team.
Give it time. You'll eventually come to understand that I'm right.

No you are right. I think we are just trying to determine what team is the best for our kids and that comes across here as nonsense bickering because a lot of it is speculative. We are trying to predict the future with our kids best fit in mind but that leads to disagreements. All fine, that is why we are here but that doesn't mean we shouldnt post.

And the stakes are high if your kid already plays for the closest club. Who wants an hour commute each way 3 times a week for practice.

[Anonymous]

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“You can't teach speed, atlethism and aggressivness. Kids are born with it. They can improve their speed by training but will never be as fast as a person that was born with it “

“WRONG!!!
speed is a skill. Nobody is born with speed .
Big bodies and aggressiveness is why USWNT is falling behind at the international stage in front of much faster and technical teams like Spain. Same goes for men too. Just ask pep guardiola. Being big and chasing the ball pushing everyone on your way is not Soccer. It is football (the other football lol).

I beg to differ on the speed comment. Some just have it. I hope your DD is not one of the slow ones and in your head your can go to Healthy Baller to train to be the fastest on the team. Give yourself a break and save your money. Will she improve maybe but will never be some of the fastest kids on the team.

The USWNT have issues with politics that is why they are falling behind. They have young talent that are technical and fast but are not called up since the selection is not merit based. They keep calling and playing the same old players that are passed their prime. In European, selection is mostly based on merit with a few exceptions.

Pep already knows talent wins games that is why Man City has spend a lot of money buying these players. They are stacked with studs. Even if Pep were to coach Union 2011G, Arlington will still win... not enough talent on the team. You would not even want that as the first day he comes 3/4th of the team will be let go. As good as he is, he knows he is not a miracle worker and needs talent to win.



Speed is not a skill. Size is not a skill. Strength is not a skill.
Kids can train out imperfections in running form and max their natural ability. But you simply can’t train speed as a skill for improvement.

Pep’s team is littered with speed and size. His “coaching” is based on identifying and paying transfer fees for fully developed adults and implementing them into a system. Haaland is size and speed and not so much skill.

USWNT is really a politics game and they keep players too long. Emma Hayes is quite a character herself.

Somebody must have a slow kid..speed is an inherent genetic attribute. Its not a skill.. everyone has a top speed and training can get you to your max.. but others max is always going to be higher. I will always pick the athletes over a slow and/or small but technical skilled player. Need to get to the ball and not get pushed off else it doesnt matter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You people and your silly stories about little kids. In just a few short years you will realize that none of this matters and you will have wasted cycles for nothing. Find the right fit for kid. Where they are challenged, and play with/against good competition. Find a coach that believes in him/her. Do outside training as often as possible. The rest is just silly nonsense bickering amongst parents to see who can say they are the "best" team.
Give it time. You'll eventually come to understand that I'm right.

No you are right. I think we are just trying to determine what team is the best for our kids and that comes across here as nonsense bickering because a lot of it is speculative. We are trying to predict the future with our kids best fit in mind but that leads to disagreements. All fine, that is why we are here but that doesn't mean we shouldnt post.

And the stakes are high if your kid already plays for the closest club. Who wants an hour commute each way 3 times a week for practice.

Unfortunately, some people have to travel that far for good coaching with the ability to play within MLSN/ECNL/GA. Especially in Southern MD

[Anonymous]

There are some posters on here with legitimate questions and are here in good faith. There are others who have some sort of agenda. It’s annoying and it could be fixed if this wasn’t an anonymous forum.

Many parents are just trying to figure this all out. I know people who are moving their kids to different clubs. Some of the moves are just to find something stable for their kids, which is probably the right way to be thinking about it. I don’t think people are moving their kids to find the “winningest” team, but rather, a stable program that can help their kids develop. With all the changes and instability this year, I don’t blame anyone moving their kid. Each has to find the right fit. FVU and the three programs that feed into it might be a great option for one family, but not a great option for another family.

On the point above regarding commuting times, it would help if clubs interested in recruiting top players from MYS/Brave teams if they could schedule practices on fields closer to where families on the team live, rather than just scheduling practices on the same fields each year. For example, if Arlington wants to recruit some of these MYS families, they could schedule practices in North Arlington for the top teams rather than scheduling practices at Long Bridge. Same for other programs looking to take advantage of all this turmoil and recruit top players from MYS/Brave teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are some posters on here with legitimate questions and are here in good faith. There are others who have some sort of agenda. It’s annoying and it could be fixed if this wasn’t an anonymous forum.

Many parents are just trying to figure this all out. I know people who are moving their kids to different clubs. Some of the moves are just to find something stable for their kids, which is probably the right way to be thinking about it. I don’t think people are moving their kids to find the “winningest” team, but rather, a stable program that can help their kids develop. With all the changes and instability this year, I don’t blame anyone moving their kid. Each has to find the right fit. FVU and the three programs that feed into it might be a great option for one family, but not a great option for another family.

On the point above regarding commuting times, it would help if clubs interested in recruiting top players from MYS/Brave teams if they could schedule practices on fields closer to where families on the team live, rather than just scheduling practices on the same fields each year. For example, if Arlington wants to recruit some of these MYS families, they could schedule practices in North Arlington for the top teams rather than scheduling practices at Long Bridge. Same for other programs looking to take advantage of all this turmoil and recruit top players from MYS/Brave teams.

You assume top players would living in Mclean/ N Arlington..... Have you ever thought that maybe these kids are coming from all over the place, DC, MD or wait S Arlington (shocking I know). You are coming off very entitled.

I would assume the same that Mclean practice should stay in Mclean but since it's a merger of the club, they are going to split the practices locations.

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What merger? MYS did not merge. It dissolved its ECNL team and helped co-create a new ECNL team with Brave and Vienna. There was no merger. MYS was not merged into FVU.

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Brave is Vienna + BRYC. Duh

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Finkle is Einhorn. Einhorn is Finkle!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

“You can't teach speed, atlethism and aggressivness. Kids are born with it. They can improve their speed by training but will never be as fast as a person that was born with it “

“WRONG!!!
speed is a skill. Nobody is born with speed .
Big bodies and aggressiveness is why USWNT is falling behind at the international stage in front of much faster and technical teams like Spain. Same goes for men too. Just ask pep guardiola. Being big and chasing the ball pushing everyone on your way is not Soccer. It is football (the other football lol).

I beg to differ on the speed comment. Some just have it. I hope your DD is not one of the slow ones and in your head your can go to Healthy Baller to train to be the fastest on the team. Give yourself a break and save your money. Will she improve maybe but will never be some of the fastest kids on the team.

The USWNT have issues with politics that is why they are falling behind. They have young talent that are technical and fast but are not called up since the selection is not merit based. They keep calling and playing the same old players that are passed their prime. In European, selection is mostly based on merit with a few exceptions.

Pep already knows talent wins games that is why Man City has spend a lot of money buying these players. They are stacked with studs. Even if Pep were to coach Union 2011G, Arlington will still win... not enough talent on the team. You would not even want that as the first day he comes 3/4th of the team will be let go. As good as he is, he knows he is not a miracle worker and needs talent to win.

Speed is not a skill. Size is not a skill. Strength is not a skill.
Kids can train out imperfections in running form and max their natural ability. But you simply can’t train speed as a skill for improvement.

Pep’s team is littered with speed and size. His “coaching” is based on identifying and paying transfer fees for fully developed adults and implementing them into a system. Haaland is size and speed and not so much skill.

USWNT is really a politics game and they keep players too long. Emma Hayes is quite a character herself.

Somebody must have a slow kid..speed is an inherent genetic attribute. Its not a skill.. everyone has a top speed and training can get you to your max.. but others max is always going to be higher. I will always pick the athletes over a slow and/or small but technical skilled player. Need to get to the ball and not get pushed off else it doesnt matter.

While I agree with you on some points. I disagree on size. Just remember the Barcelona team of Messi, Xavi, Iniesta , Jordo Alba or even today with Gavi and Pedro. A small techno player will not even let the big player push him/her off the ball because the other player won’t even have the time to get to the player. By the time they run, the ball is already gone. That is how Barcelona beat big and fast English teams. Small, technical and moving the ball fast is the beautiful game. Chasing and pushing is rugby or football.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

“You can't teach speed, atlethism and aggressivness. Kids are born with it. They can improve their speed by training but will never be as fast as a person that was born with it “

“WRONG!!!
speed is a skill. Nobody is born with speed .
Big bodies and aggressiveness is why USWNT is falling behind at the international stage in front of much faster and technical teams like Spain. Same goes for men too. Just ask pep guardiola. Being big and chasing the ball pushing everyone on your way is not Soccer. It is football (the other football lol).

I beg to differ on the speed comment. Some just have it. I hope your DD is not one of the slow ones and in your head your can go to Healthy Baller to train to be the fastest on the team. Give yourself a break and save your money. Will she improve maybe but will never be some of the fastest kids on the team.

The USWNT have issues with politics that is why they are falling behind. They have young talent that are technical and fast but are not called up since the selection is not merit based. They keep calling and playing the same old players that are passed their prime. In European, selection is mostly based on merit with a few exceptions.

Pep already knows talent wins games that is why Man City has spend a lot of money buying these players. They are stacked with studs. Even if Pep were to coach Union 2011G, Arlington will still win... not enough talent on the team. You would not even want that as the first day he comes 3/4th of the team will be let go. As good as he is, he knows he is not a miracle worker and needs talent to win.

Speed is not a skill. Size is not a skill. Strength is not a skill.
Kids can train out imperfections in running form and max their natural ability. But you simply can’t train speed as a skill for improvement.

Pep’s team is littered with speed and size. His “coaching” is based on identifying and paying transfer fees for fully developed adults and implementing them into a system. Haaland is size and speed and not so much skill.

USWNT is really a politics game and they keep players too long. Emma Hayes is quite a character herself.

Somebody must have a slow kid..speed is an inherent genetic attribute. Its not a skill.. everyone has a top speed and training can get you to your max.. but others max is always going to be higher. I will always pick the athletes over a slow and/or small but technical skilled player. Need to get to the ball and not get pushed off else it doesnt matter.

While I agree with you on some points. I disagree on size. Just remember the Barcelona team of Messi, Xavi, Iniesta , Jordo Alba or even today with Gavi and Pedro. A small techno player will not even let the big player push him/her off the ball because the other player won’t even have the time to get to the player. By the time they run, the ball is already gone. That is how Barcelona beat big and fast English teams. Small, technical and moving the ball fast is the beautiful game. Chasing and pushing is rugby or football. thoses players are rare exceptions to the rule. Not generally typical. Your kids most likely not going to be a messi. Speed and Size are separator’s

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Speed, Size and strength can beat skill. Ask any girl who plays soccer with boys after puberty.