ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous
Other than the 2010s and 2005/2006s (which are basically not even relevant at this point) the above poster is 100% correct regarding NVA vs Union on the girls side, it’s not even close.
Anonymous
Plus there are no bathrooms at Union fields
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Plus there are no bathrooms at Union fields


Totally agreed on this!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Other than the 2010s and 2005/2006s (which are basically not even relevant at this point) the above poster is 100% correct regarding NVA vs Union on the girls side, it’s not even close.


I am trying to follow the logic. So 2008 Union beat 2008 NVA handily, so 2008 Union is a lot better than 2008 NVA, right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Other than the 2010s and 2005/2006s (which are basically not even relevant at this point) the above poster is 100% correct regarding NVA vs Union on the girls side, it’s not even close.


I am trying to follow the logic. So 2008 Union beat 2008 NVA handily, so 2008 Union is a lot better than 2008 NVA, right?


And then NVA 2010 and 05/06 beat Union. But everybody knows they’re better than NVA.

Meanwhile, everybody also knows that Union 2008 isn’t actually as good as NVA. Or even close.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Other than the 2010s and 2005/2006s (which are basically not even relevant at this point) the above poster is 100% correct regarding NVA vs Union on the girls side, it’s not even close.


There are 6 Union girls’ teams. You just removed 1/3 of them. So NVA is supposedly better than Union by 2 age groups? What happens when they get Brave’s 2008s next season? 2006s and 2007s combine (FVU could be better), FVU is better in the 08s and 10s, NVA is better in the 09s. 11s and 12s will be tossups.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last four results
0-3 NVA
0-2 Brave
0-5 Arl
0-4 Beach

Charlotte SA next which will likely be a loss and Arl again in the schedule.

If i am a Braves parent I'd be wondering why FVU didn't take more Braves. Maybe this team will be better in 2-3 years when new player cycle thru but next year this might be worst team in VA.

But wins and losses aren't everything, what about development? Maybe a parent from the team can say.


Thanks NVA parent whose team sits in last place out of the VA teams right now. And that’s even after Union suffered major injuries and merger drama.

Stop with the nonsense. Just focus on your own DD’s development.


Lets stop the excuses. Its not because of the injuires. I watched them play. They had 19 on the roster but just a few girls on the team (not more than 5) had the speed, agressiveness and atletism to compete at the "ELITE" level. The rest are RL players that not sure what CW was thinking selecting these players. A parent next to me said over 100 girls were at last years tryout and saw a lot of talent that were turned away due to politics including some of the Braves girls that now have FVU Offers.

Also, CW is playing everyone. At this level, you are not going to win any games with this strategy unless you have a roster of 16 and everyone is a stud. He needs to create competition in the team. If everyone plays regardless of performance, why will the girls go out and give it their all. When a team wins, they attract top talent -- Arlington, Bethesda, etc.

Unfortunately, next season will be the same as other teams will bring on new talent and FVU will be recycling the same talent pool.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What is development definition anyway? I don’t think clubs develop anything. They just keep recruiting ready players. Development is what the kid does outside of the club. Club is all about politics and some below par team training. That applies to all clubs at least in the DMV area. Just my 2 cents


100% Agree. A lot of parents are drinking the Kool-aid on this.
Anonymous
Brave 08 top players decided not to join FVU. No surprise knowing MV is coaching.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last four results
0-3 NVA
0-2 Brave
0-5 Arl
0-4 Beach

Charlotte SA next which will likely be a loss and Arl again in the schedule.

If i am a Braves parent I'd be wondering why FVU didn't take more Braves. Maybe this team will be better in 2-3 years when new player cycle thru but next year this might be worst team in VA.

But wins and losses aren't everything, what about development? Maybe a parent from the team can say.


Thanks NVA parent whose team sits in last place out of the VA teams right now. And that’s even after Union suffered major injuries and merger drama.

Stop with the nonsense. Just focus on your own DD’s development.


Lets stop the excuses. Its not because of the injuires. I watched them play. They had 19 on the roster but just a few girls on the team (not more than 5) had the speed, agressiveness and atletism to compete at the "ELITE" level. The rest are RL players that not sure what CW was thinking selecting these players. A parent next to me said over 100 girls were at last years tryout and saw a lot of talent that were turned away due to politics including some of the Braves girls that now have FVU Offers.

Also, CW is playing everyone. At this level, you are not going to win any games with this strategy unless you have a roster of 16 and everyone is a stud. He needs to create competition in the team. If everyone plays regardless of performance, why will the girls go out and give it their all. When a team wins, they attract top talent -- Arlington, Bethesda, etc.

Unfortunately, next season will be the same as other teams will bring on new talent and FVU will be recycling the same talent pool.


Notice how the words skill and IQ were left out which are fairly important in this game but I guess that is NVA for you. Even so, I’ve seen the NVA 11’s play and they don’t possess a ton of what the PP considers elite attributes.

They are a fine U13 team who are working to develop just like everyone else but let’s not mistake them for a team that can be considered any better than the other VA teams.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last four results
0-3 NVA
0-2 Brave
0-5 Arl
0-4 Beach

Charlotte SA next which will likely be a loss and Arl again in the schedule.

If i am a Braves parent I'd be wondering why FVU didn't take more Braves. Maybe this team will be better in 2-3 years when new player cycle thru but next year this might be worst team in VA.

But wins and losses aren't everything, what about development? Maybe a parent from the team can say.



Yes, they're having a rough few games scoring. The girls are 13, they'll continue to improve. They also beat Charlotte SA the first time around so no reason to call that a loss.


What planet are you living on. You played 4 games and not score a single goal and you are on the forum saying they had a "few rough games not scoring". They just don't have a midfield and offense (zero). These past four games have been all defending in their half. Its just a matter of time goals are going to get in. Go watch the Arlington game to see if their Goalie even touched the ball from a shot from a union player. The only time our goalie touched the ball was when are defenders passed it back.

The Charlotte team has come a long way and that game was in the fall. Not sure if they trained in the summer and now they been training for 9 months now so I would not be took quick to say Union is going to beat them because of the fall outcome.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last four results
0-3 NVA
0-2 Brave
0-5 Arl
0-4 Beach

Charlotte SA next which will likely be a loss and Arl again in the schedule.

If i am a Braves parent I'd be wondering why FVU didn't take more Braves. Maybe this team will be better in 2-3 years when new player cycle thru but next year this might be worst team in VA.

But wins and losses aren't everything, what about development? Maybe a parent from the team can say.


Thanks NVA parent whose team sits in last place out of the VA teams right now. And that’s even after Union suffered major injuries and merger drama.

Stop with the nonsense. Just focus on your own DD’s development.


Lets stop the excuses. Its not because of the injuires. I watched them play. They had 19 on the roster but just a few girls on the team (not more than 5) had the speed, agressiveness and atletism to compete at the "ELITE" level. The rest are RL players that not sure what CW was thinking selecting these players. A parent next to me said over 100 girls were at last years tryout and saw a lot of talent that were turned away due to politics including some of the Braves girls that now have FVU Offers.

Also, CW is playing everyone. At this level, you are not going to win any games with this strategy unless you have a roster of 16 and everyone is a stud. He needs to create competition in the team. If everyone plays regardless of performance, why will the girls go out and give it their all. When a team wins, they attract top talent -- Arlington, Bethesda, etc.

Unfortunately, next season will be the same as other teams will bring on new talent and FVU will be recycling the same talent pool.


Notice how the words skill and IQ were left out which are fairly important in this game but I guess that is NVA for you. Even so, I’ve seen the NVA 11’s play and they don’t possess a ton of what the PP considers elite attributes.

They are a fine U13 team who are working to develop just like everyone else but let’s not mistake them for a team that can be considered any better than the other VA teams.


NVA isn’t close to the best 2011 team in VA. That title brings to Arlington.

1. Arlington
2. VDA
3. Beach FC
4. Richmond
5. BRAVE
6. Union
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last four results
0-3 NVA
0-2 Brave
0-5 Arl
0-4 Beach

Charlotte SA next which will likely be a loss and Arl again in the schedule.

If i am a Braves parent I'd be wondering why FVU didn't take more Braves. Maybe this team will be better in 2-3 years when new player cycle thru but next year this might be worst team in VA.

But wins and losses aren't everything, what about development? Maybe a parent from the team can say.


Thanks NVA parent whose team sits in last place out of the VA teams right now. And that’s even after Union suffered major injuries and merger drama.

Stop with the nonsense. Just focus on your own DD’s development.


Lets stop the excuses. Its not because of the injuires. I watched them play. They had 19 on the roster but just a few girls on the team (not more than 5) had the speed, agressiveness and atletism to compete at the "ELITE" level. The rest are RL players that not sure what CW was thinking selecting these players. A parent next to me said over 100 girls were at last years tryout and saw a lot of talent that were turned away due to politics including some of the Braves girls that now have FVU Offers.

Also, CW is playing everyone. At this level, you are not going to win any games with this strategy unless you have a roster of 16 and everyone is a stud. He needs to create competition in the team. If everyone plays regardless of performance, why will the girls go out and give it their all. When a team wins, they attract top talent -- Arlington, Bethesda, etc.

Unfortunately, next season will be the same as other teams will bring on new talent and FVU will be recycling the same talent pool.


Notice how the words skill and IQ were left out which are fairly important in this game but I guess that is NVA for you. Even so, I’ve seen the NVA 11’s play and they don’t possess a ton of what the PP considers elite attributes.

They are a fine U13 team who are working to develop just like everyone else but let’s not mistake them for a team that can be considered any better than the other VA teams.


NVA isn’t close to the best 2011 team in VA. That title brings to Arlington.

1. Arlington
2. VDA
3. Beach FC
4. Richmond
5. BRAVE
6. Union


VDA 2011 is probably the most overrated team in Virginia. They’re about to be exposed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last four results
0-3 NVA
0-2 Brave
0-5 Arl
0-4 Beach

Charlotte SA next which will likely be a loss and Arl again in the schedule.

If i am a Braves parent I'd be wondering why FVU didn't take more Braves. Maybe this team will be better in 2-3 years when new player cycle thru but next year this might be worst team in VA.

But wins and losses aren't everything, what about development? Maybe a parent from the team can say.


Thanks NVA parent whose team sits in last place out of the VA teams right now. And that’s even after Union suffered major injuries and merger drama.

Stop with the nonsense. Just focus on your own DD’s development.


Lets stop the excuses. Its not because of the injuires. I watched them play. They had 19 on the roster but just a few girls on the team (not more than 5) had the speed, agressiveness and atletism to compete at the "ELITE" level. The rest are RL players that not sure what CW was thinking selecting these players. A parent next to me said over 100 girls were at last years tryout and saw a lot of talent that were turned away due to politics including some of the Braves girls that now have FVU Offers.

Also, CW is playing everyone. At this level, you are not going to win any games with this strategy unless you have a roster of 16 and everyone is a stud. He needs to create competition in the team. If everyone plays regardless of performance, why will the girls go out and give it their all. When a team wins, they attract top talent -- Arlington, Bethesda, etc.

Unfortunately, next season will be the same as other teams will bring on new talent and FVU will be recycling the same talent pool.


Notice how the words skill and IQ were left out which are fairly important in this game but I guess that is NVA for you. Even so, I’ve seen the NVA 11’s play and they don’t possess a ton of what the PP considers elite attributes.

They are a fine U13 team who are working to develop just like everyone else but let’s not mistake them for a team that can be considered any better than the other VA teams.


Not saying its not important but when selecting players, your foundation should be those three and then you train for skill and IQ. You can't teach speed, atlethism and aggressivness. Kids are born with it. They can improve their speed by training but will never be as fast as a person that was born with it and has also been training.
Anonymous
The coaching you do with a new U13 ECNL team should build on itself throughout the year and progress.

Too many coaches teach U15 topics to ECNL U13s and expect them to get it....or get cut. A few players on the team can pick it up, but 50%+ can't unless you have a squad of legitimately elite players.

Each year, only one of out of the 4 ECNL teams in the area is going to be truly "elite" talent wise in any given year just through talent dilution.

No ECNL age group in the area has 2 legit ELITE teams competing at the national level at the same time. Just not enough players in the area for it.
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