Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous
I just saw her Instagram post from 5 hours ago, the video clip of him and her chatting. He looks totally gay, based on his mannerisms and hand motions while talking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I just saw her Instagram post from 5 hours ago, the video clip of him and her chatting. He looks totally gay, based on his mannerisms and hand motions while talking.


They are trying to convince people the relationship is real. Which is obviously not. Blah
Anonymous
Big Sis and Big Sas have big time old Hollywood manufactured studio romance energy. Like when Rock Hudson dated his costars.
Anonymous
Big Sis is trying really, really hard to convince us that Tyler is attractive. 😬
Anonymous
Jen saying she wants more time while Tyler doesn’t even address it. He’s definitely in this to grow his fan base. He’s either gay or a player. Something doesn’t feel genuine about him at all.
Anonymous
Interesting that she has only talked on the phone with his mom, whereas he's met her family and friends.

I really wonder what his single friends think of her, and also his best friend, who is female. Because with him having 3 hour phone calls with Jen, little time is left for bestie.

I feel a strong friendship/mutual appreciation vibe but not any real fire or spark.
Anonymous
Jen seems to following the standard protocol of an influencer; she can’t possibly go it alone and so must pair up to “build her team” and Tyler is an example of such a pairing.


Glennon has done it. So has Pioneer Woman. Also have to be blessed and approved by Almighty and Most High, Oprah.
Anonymous
I also didn't make it more than 10-15 minutes into that podcast. They each seemed annoyed with the other. And I was a fan of Tyler until he gave Jen a hard time about going home to her kids instead of staying an extra night in New York when they first met. He seems super proud of himself for pointing out that her high school aged kids didn't really need her.

Sure they didn't need her to cook for them or even drive them somewhere, but I thought his attitude really was telling. If a man can't respect that I want to be around my kids, even if they're grown, he's not my man.

Also I'm sorry but the prevalence of that Tyler's shirt is really underscoring the work she still needs to do on herself.
Anonymous
So Tyler’s white female Christian friends tell him he writes like Jen and he should get her to endorse his new book. He then buys her a ticket to Waitress while they are both in NYC and their mutual publicist sets up their meeting. Tyler says he was surprised how hot Jen was and they flirted the night away. Fast forward to him sending her texts for weeks and then sends her gold covered roses for Christmas. But he insists this is normal behavior for a confirmed bachelor who hasn’t dated in years and has no desire for a serious relationship. Huh?
He has this strong antagonism with her. He was saying how she keeps forgetting his new book is coming out, she responds by accusing him of making a plug for his new book on her podcast. When sharing what’s been hardest for them in the relationship she says being long distance and he says dealing with the way Jen processes things. To which she says that’s sounds like I miss you and you think I’m difficult. Yep, pretty much. Tyler likes his single life in Nashville with his crew of single friends, he doesn’t want to be full time with Jen. Then the whole section on her feelings on his blackness and how black women feel about their relationship was so tense I wondered how Jen doesn’t realize this isn’t a healthy safe relationship at all? It’s a pseudo relationship born of two shameless self promoting influencers believing themselves to be something they are not. The whole thing is one big crazy making gaslighting mess. I guess after years of pretending her marriage was something it wasn’t she’s well versed in presenting false fronts in love. Do you think she believes her own image crafted nonsense or prefers the fantasy to reality so much she doesn’t care if it’s true or not?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So Tyler’s white female Christian friends tell him he writes like Jen and he should get her to endorse his new book. He then buys her a ticket to Waitress while they are both in NYC and their mutual publicist sets up their meeting. Tyler says he was surprised how hot Jen was and they flirted the night away. Fast forward to him sending her texts for weeks and then sends her gold covered roses for Christmas. But he insists this is normal behavior for a confirmed bachelor who hasn’t dated in years and has no desire for a serious relationship. Huh?
He has this strong antagonism with her. He was saying how she keeps forgetting his new book is coming out, she responds by accusing him of making a plug for his new book on her podcast. When sharing what’s been hardest for them in the relationship she says being long distance and he says dealing with the way Jen processes things. To which she says that’s sounds like I miss you and you think I’m difficult. Yep, pretty much. Tyler likes his single life in Nashville with his crew of single friends, he doesn’t want to be full time with Jen. Then the whole section on her feelings on his blackness and how black women feel about their relationship was so tense I wondered how Jen doesn’t realize this isn’t a healthy safe relationship at all? It’s a pseudo relationship born of two shameless self promoting influencers believing themselves to be something they are not. The whole thing is one big crazy making gaslighting mess. I guess after years of pretending her marriage was something it wasn’t she’s well versed in presenting false fronts in love. Do you think she believes her own image crafted nonsense or prefers the fantasy to reality so much she doesn’t care if it’s true or not?



I haven't listened and don't think I can bring myself, but OUCH given the above summary. What was "the section on his blackness and how black women feel about their relationship" and how was it tense? Yikes...
Anonymous
Yikes, from your description, it doesn’t sound like much of a relationship. Didn’t she get married at 19 or something? A lot of people who marry in 20s,30s or 40s may have had more dating experience. If she’s really only dated Brandon and a guy in seventh grade, then she may not grasp what this is or is not. I certainly wouldn’t put it on a podcast.
Anonymous
I feel sorry for Jen. She posted how her body keeps having these responses to Tyler but she is trying to convince herself it’s ok now so her body can relax it’s just having these reactions because of her old relationship. This isn’t Brandon after all. What? She is gaslighting herself. Her body knows Tyler isn’t emotionally safe but she’s so over invested herself in this relationship online she can’t face the truth. Where the heck are her people? Why are none of them lovingly telling her this isn’t what healthy a long term love affair looks like between people in there late 40’s. Make it stop.
Anonymous
The weird contradictions in her messaging is hard to sort out.
First, it's strange that so many of her fans comment on her posts saying that it took them years to heal enough after divorce to consider a new relationship, yet within a couple years, Jen has not only healed and found new love but is guiding others on the path to happiness and wholeness. On the other hand, she sounds giddy and silly and unsure of herself and seems at times to have no idea what to do. There are an awful lot of highs and lows for sure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I just saw her Instagram post from 5 hours ago, the video clip of him and her chatting. He looks totally gay, based on his mannerisms and hand motions while talking.


I saw the same and immediately felt like he was gay. I tried super hard to push that feeling down but when you’re older and wiser you learn to trust your gut.
Anonymous
Well, wow. I just listened to the entire episode. The thing that jumped out most to me was Jen would start describing how and when something happened, and Tyler would interrupt and say say, no, no, that’s not what happened, that’s not what you / I said. And Jen would immediately shut up, he’d tell what “really” happened - and she’d just agree in a weird meek way. It kind of became a pattern. And as they got further along, Jen would start to describe something but preempt it by saying maybe this isn’t how you remember it in almost an apologetic way.

Struck me (and this is just my completely unprofessional opinion) that she wants this relationship to be real so bad she’ll go along with anything he says, as long as it fits her general romantic premise. He even kind of called her out that at the beginning when they were texting, he thought she was distracted and felt like she may have been interested elsewhere, and she just sat there looking like she didn’t know what he was talking about. But later he pressed her asking if that was a fair statement, she kind of mumbled well yeah. Like she was just going along with him.

Again, just my impressions and they may be completely off. But there was certainly was some weird dynamics going on.
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