Is Notre Dame screwing up?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame has held masses with sacraments which no doubt spread the virus. How can you have people drinking wine together with COVID going around?!

For those that don't believe me, here is ND's own website saying they will/have held masses of sacramental initiation!

https://ndworks.nd.edu/news/social-distancing-keeps-40-from-receiving-sacraments-at-basilica-but-cant-loosen-their-hold-on-faith/

Um, you’ve linked to a post from early April. I don’t think that’s really relevant to today.

Really? https://campusministry.nd.edu/events/2020/11/08/mass-of-full-communion-confirmation/

It’s a confirmation mass. I’m not seeing the issue here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame is NYC. We’re literally watching it burn with our jaws on the floor while their leader keeps explaining how this is to be expected and it’s under control.

Has anyone actually been admitted to the hospital at this time? NYC was a completely different story, with people dying and the hospitals absolutely overrun. ND has had a bunch of positive tests, but I haven’t heard of anyone getting seriously sick or needing to be hospitalized.

Wondering the same thing, myself. I’m old enough to remember when we were told that shutdowns/closures were happening just so we could prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. Anyone else remember that? If the hospitals aren’t overwhelmed, not sure what the hysteria is all about.

Sorry, it isn't hysteria. It is science.

https://globalepidemics.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/key_metrics_and_indicators_v4.pdf

So is mental health impact from isolation and unemployment, yet I rarely see that discussed in these threads.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame is NYC. We’re literally watching it burn with our jaws on the floor while their leader keeps explaining how this is to be expected and it’s under control.

Has anyone actually been admitted to the hospital at this time? NYC was a completely different story, with people dying and the hospitals absolutely overrun. ND has had a bunch of positive tests, but I haven’t heard of anyone getting seriously sick or needing to be hospitalized.

Wondering the same thing, myself. I’m old enough to remember when we were told that shutdowns/closures were happening just so we could prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. Anyone else remember that? If the hospitals aren’t overwhelmed, not sure what the hysteria is all about.

Sorry, it isn't hysteria. It is science.

https://globalepidemics.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/key_metrics_and_indicators_v4.pdf

So is mental health impact from isolation and unemployment, yet I rarely see that discussed in these threads.

If you want to discuss studies of the mental health impact of isolation and unemployment, go right ahead.

I believe that getting spread down to low levels will help us be able to get together in person more, have friends over indoors for a meal or a sleepover; go to church in person safely and have schools and live on college campuses safely.

Just closing our eyes and ignoring COVID spread won't help us get to that point though.

I have a severely ill husband and he has been incredibly isolated throughout this all... seeing no one but those who live in our home. We need spread to be very very low for him to be able to receive outside visitors, especially because so many people seem to feel he is expendable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame is NYC. We’re literally watching it burn with our jaws on the floor while their leader keeps explaining how this is to be expected and it’s under control.

Has anyone actually been admitted to the hospital at this time? NYC was a completely different story, with people dying and the hospitals absolutely overrun. ND has had a bunch of positive tests, but I haven’t heard of anyone getting seriously sick or needing to be hospitalized.

Wondering the same thing, myself. I’m old enough to remember when we were told that shutdowns/closures were happening just so we could prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. Anyone else remember that? If the hospitals aren’t overwhelmed, not sure what the hysteria is all about.

Sorry, it isn't hysteria. It is science.

https://globalepidemics.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/key_metrics_and_indicators_v4.pdf

So is mental health impact from isolation and unemployment, yet I rarely see that discussed in these threads.

If you want to discuss studies of the mental health impact of isolation and unemployment, go right ahead.

I believe that getting spread down to low levels will help us be able to get together in person more, have friends over indoors for a meal or a sleepover; go to church in person safely and have schools and live on college campuses safely.

Just closing our eyes and ignoring COVID spread won't help us get to that point though.

I have a severely ill husband and he has been incredibly isolated throughout this all... seeing no one but those who live in our home. We need spread to be very very low for him to be able to receive outside visitors, especially because so many people seem to feel he is expendable.

Curious what low level spread (in new cases per week per 100k population) would be acceptable to you to do the bolded things you mention?

[Anonymous]

Metrics for ND up today and show continued flattening of the curve. Looking good.

[Anonymous]

Curve is flattening and that is good news. I hope that ND served as an example to other schools opening to not tolerate the departure from the safety protocols. I am glad to see colleges suspending students for this egregious behavior. Let’s hope the kids are woke now about their invincibility.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame is NYC. We’re literally watching it burn with our jaws on the floor while their leader keeps explaining how this is to be expected and it’s under control.

Has anyone actually been admitted to the hospital at this time? NYC was a completely different story, with people dying and the hospitals absolutely overrun. ND has had a bunch of positive tests, but I haven’t heard of anyone getting seriously sick or needing to be hospitalized.

Wondering the same thing, myself. I’m old enough to remember when we were told that shutdowns/closures were happening just so we could prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. Anyone else remember that? If the hospitals aren’t overwhelmed, not sure what the hysteria is all about.

Sorry, it isn't hysteria. It is science.

https://globalepidemics.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/key_metrics_and_indicators_v4.pdf

So is mental health impact from isolation and unemployment, yet I rarely see that discussed in these threads.

If you want to discuss studies of the mental health impact of isolation and unemployment, go right ahead.

I believe that getting spread down to low levels will help us be able to get together in person more, have friends over indoors for a meal or a sleepover; go to church in person safely and have schools and live on college campuses safely.

Just closing our eyes and ignoring COVID spread won't help us get to that point though.

I have a severely ill husband and he has been incredibly isolated throughout this all... seeing no one but those who live in our home. We need spread to be very very low for him to be able to receive outside visitors, especially because so many people seem to feel he is expendable.

Curious what low level spread (in new cases per week per 100k population) would be acceptable to you to do the bolded things you mention?

Per week? fewer than 7 new cases per week per 100,000.

That's 1 new case per day per 100,000 and is the threshold for the "green" level as defined at www.globalepidemics.org.

Several states and many counties within those states have been at the green level the past months. However with vacationers and schools reopening we have lost some of the green states. Currently just Vermont is green. Worldwide many countries are at this level, but until spread is controlled in surrounding countries, it will be hard to stay at green unless you impose strict travel restrictions and quarantines.

https://globalepidemics.org/key-metrics-for-covid-suppression

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Metrics for ND up today and show continued flattening of the curve. Looking good.

Not enough testing going on, still. And if this is surveillance testing, the percentage is still too high.

[Anonymous]

How is the “curve flattening”? In the immortal words of Inigo Montoya, “I don’t think that means what you think it means.”

Notre Dame has done 2,071 diagnostic tests since 8/3. 430 have come back positive. Those are pretty much uncontrolled pandemic kind of numbers. 20% of the people who go for a test are positive? You think that’s good? Think about it. 3 weeks ago (assuming ND was not lying) all students coming to campus tested negative. Now 4% of the student population has covid. Will it be “great” next week when they hit 10%?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Metrics for ND up today and show continued flattening of the curve. Looking good.

you can't base it on a few days, watch what happens in the next 3 weeks. they will be all online in 4 weeks if not sooner.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Metrics for ND up today and show continued flattening of the curve. Looking good.

you can't base it on a few days, watch what happens in the next 3 weeks. they will be all online in 4 weeks if not sooner.

ND is slightly up today compared to yesterday. Still not running nearly enough tests. They are way behind many other schools on this--I'm surprised.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Metrics for ND up today and show continued flattening of the curve. Looking good.

you can't base it on a few days, watch what happens in the next 3 weeks. they will be all online in 4 weeks if not sooner.

In your dreams, hysteric atheist doomer. Get a life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame has held masses with sacraments which no doubt spread the virus. How can you have people drinking wine together with COVID going around?!

For those that don't believe me, here is ND's own website saying they will/have held masses of sacramental initiation!

https://ndworks.nd.edu/news/social-distancing-keeps-40-from-receiving-sacraments-at-basilica-but-cant-loosen-their-hold-on-faith/

Consumption of the Precious Blood by congregants has been suspended since February in most parishes around the world. The Eucharist is present in both species, so it is not necessary in order to receive the sacrament. Rest assured, Catholics are not “ drinking wine together with COVID going around?” Well, we might be, but not at Mass, and we don’t share glasses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Metrics for ND up today and show continued flattening of the curve. Looking good.

you can't base it on a few days, watch what happens in the next 3 weeks. they will be all online in 4 weeks if not sooner.

In your dreams, hysteric atheist doomer. Get a life.

Nice way to have a debate. Did you type that during commercials of the RNC? I look forward to responding to this post in a few weeks.

[Anonymous]

So, according to the ND covid webpage - ND is conducting surveillance testing. Students are,apparently, randomly selected to be tested. The report to the ND testing site (stadium), and get tested. Easy.

The problem is that 20 percent of these 2000 random tests are positive. Those are out of control epidemic numbers.