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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Notre Dame is NYC. We’re literally watching it burn with our jaws on the floor while their leader keeps explaining how this is to be expected and it’s under control. [/quote]

Has anyone actually been admitted to the hospital at this time?  NYC was a completely different story, with people dying and the hospitals absolutely overrun.   ND has had a bunch of positive tests, but I haven’t heard of anyone getting seriously sick or needing to be hospitalized.   [/quote]
Wondering the same thing, myself. I’m old enough to remember when we were told that shutdowns/closures were happening just so we could prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. Anyone else remember that? If the hospitals aren’t overwhelmed, [b]not sure what the hysteria is all about.[/b][/quote]

Sorry, it isn't hysteria.  It is science.

https://globalepidemics.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/key_metrics_and_indicators_v4.pdf[/quote]

So is mental health impact from isolation and unemployment, yet I rarely see that discussed in these threads. [/quote]

If you want to discuss studies of the mental health impact of isolation and unemployment, go  right ahead.

I believe that getting [b]spread down to low levels [/b]will help us be able to get together in person more, [b]have friends over indoors for a meal or a sleepover; go to church in person safely and have schools and live on college campuses safely.[/b]

Just closing our eyes and ignoring COVID spread won't help us get to that point though.

I have a severely ill husband and he has been incredibly isolated throughout this all... seeing no one but those who live in our home.  We need spread to be very very low for him to be able to receive outside visitors, especially because so many people seem to feel he is expendable.[/quote]

Curious what low level spread (in new cases per week per 100k population) would be acceptable to you to do the bolded things you mention?  [/quote]

Per week?  fewer than 7 new cases per week per 100,000.

That's 1 new case per day per 100,000 and is the threshold for the "green" level as defined at www.globalepidemics.org.

Several states and many counties within those states have been at the green level the past months.  However with vacationers and schools reopening we have lost some of the green states.  Currently just Vermont is green. Worldwide many countries are at this level, but until spread is controlled in surrounding countries, it will be hard to stay at green unless you impose strict travel restrictions and quarantines.

https://globalepidemics.org/key-metrics-for-covid-suppression

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