The Karen meme silences White women

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Anonymous wrote:I think OP is being dramatic. That being said, Karen is definitely a sexist meme. It’s telling that there is no male equivalent even though that behavior is just as common or worse with men (see: Bethesda biker)

Aren't there though? Haven't you heard of "The Man" (is out to get you)? There isn't a single name (a "Bob" verses "The Man") to point out the threat that white men represent to black people because it's called the Patriarchy. Recognizing the oppression of women, a signifier arose to capture the type of white woman who actively engages the patriarchy with these calls that provide shelter for the fears that they were and are fed to uphold institutionalized racism. Karens are buying into sexist notions of themselves when they make these quivering calls.

Those who benefit from the protections afforded them uniquely among all women [See Sojourner Truth's Ain't I a Woman?), and leverage their position to further oppress black men universally and black women when they're loud need to be called out. The women upset by the emergence of the Karen (the ultimate power bottom) are leaning into the stereotype of the helpless white woman. If you're not a Karen, you know with certainty this doesn't apply to you. If you're "offended" (more white woman nonsense), then maybe you need to reflect on why it wounds you so.

There is no weapon more powerful than a white woman's tears. [See Emmett Till, retraction.] Black people know this. Cops know this. It's the only true power the patriarchy has traditionally allowed white women. Wake up or hush.

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Anonymous wrote:I think OP is being dramatic. That being said, Karen is definitely a sexist meme. It’s telling that there is no male equivalent even though that behavior is just as common or worse with men (see: Bethesda biker)

Aren't there though? Haven't you heard of "The Man" (is out to get you)? There isn't a single name (a "Bob" verses "The Man") to point out the threat that white men represent to black people because it's called the Patriarchy. Recognizing the oppression of women, a signifier arose to capture the type of white woman who actively engages the patriarchy with these calls that provide shelter for the fears that they were and are fed to uphold institutionalized racism. Karens are buying into sexist notions of themselves when they make these quivering calls.

Those who benefit from the protections afforded them uniquely among all women [See Sojourner Truth's Ain't I a Woman?), and leverage their position to further oppress black men universally and black women when they're loud need to be called out. The women upset by the emergence of the Karen (the ultimate power bottom) are leaning into the stereotype of the helpless white woman. If you're not a Karen, you know with certainty this doesn't apply to you. If you're "offended" (more white woman nonsense), then maybe you need to reflect on why it wounds you so.

There is no weapon more powerful than a white woman's tears. [See Emmett Till, retraction.] Black people know this. Cops know this. It's the only true power the patriarchy has traditionally allowed white women. Wake up or hush.

Agreed.

(A white woman, BTW, who has been critical of this thread. Haven't felt an ounce of offense at the thread, either.)

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The male equivalent is a Dick.

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Anonymous wrote:Entitled white women could stand to be silenced.

Fvck you.

Posts like yours literally get Trump votes.

I voted Obama twice and democrat every time until things went too far left. I voted Trump last time and I’ll vote Trump again. Keep calling me Karen, I don’t care. I’ll keep quiet, look over my shoulder, and then when no one is watching I’ll tick that Trump box. No one knows I voted Trump. It’s quiet people like me you should worry about. You know about the Karen’s. They’re loud and you see them. I’m silent Cindy. There’s lots of us. You won’t know us to see us, but we are here and we will tick that Trump box a second time.

I love how proud you are. Don’t you ever change Karen. You’re doing fabulous sweetie.

Who knows? Maybe she’s doing a lot better than you.

I’m actually doing pretty well, thanks!

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Anonymous wrote:Poor white ladies finally get how everyone else has
Felt all these years. Boo hooo. You’re being such a Karen right now.

I actually don’t mind being a Karen. I feel good about myself and my choices.

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Anonymous wrote:The male equivalent is a Dick.

Or a Chad.

Urban Dictionary: a chad
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=a chad

a chad When referring to somebody as a chad, they are likely a white-male with an abnormally large ego, commonly in their teens or early twenties. No such thing as an ethnic chad or a female chad. Chad’s tend to refer to their peers as Bro’s or dudes.

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Anonymous wrote:Entitled white women could stand to be silenced.

Cool. The next time I hear that black people need white allies, I’ll say f<>k you and the horse you rode in on.

Precisely. This is exactly why I power washed the deck today instead of protesting. OP has a perfectly valid point but it’s not THEIR point so it doesn’t count, and worse, they think she deserves to be bullied over it

I haven’t gone to a single protest and they’re literally happening on my street. You don’t care about me, I don’t care about you. So many negative posts about white women and I just dont care. I watched Netflix on the iPad by my pool all day instead. It was wonderful.

No wonder you have so much sun damage.

I’m in the shade. I have a large yard.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah no. I reported a black lady for stealing from trader joes last week. She was shoving things into her bag and I asked he if she was going to pay for that. She started yelling and filming. Trader joes intervened and called the police. When someone is doing something wrong I don’t care what color you are, I’m speaking up.

Karens are also security guards.

I am AA. One of my nieces worked at the Lord & Taylor in Chevy Chase several years ago. She said white women would shoplift all the time, especially nicely dressed elderly white women, and security would escort them out the door after retrieving the shoplifted items. If the shoplifters were AA or Latino, security would more often than not call the police.

This was true of my DD’s experience working at Bloomingdale’s and Nordstrom. Security at Nordstrom was very familiar with one woman and would just call her DH to pay for the purchases.

Sounds like she was mentally ill.

I used to have a friend like this. She would shoplift for the adrenaline rush. The clothing stores knew her and would quietly escort her out. The only place that called the cops and prosecuted was Whole Foods. She struggles with mental illness.

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Anonymous wrote:I was SILENCED at the Smoothie King! Now the world will not hear my voice!

I know, right? People are out here dying and she's upset that people didn't follow the proper curbside procedures at the Smoothie King.

The reason for the curbside procedures is to prevent people from getting COVID and ... dying.

So, I'm curious: The OP describes the scene in the store and said that she WALKED away. If her concern was about following curbside procedures, why didn't she stay in her car and call the store to let them know that she was there to pick up her curbside order? First, since she didn't mention doing that, she doesn't know if they would have complied. Second, why was she walking around and walking inside the store? By doing this, she became a part of the very behavior that she's complaining about.

I am the OP and I’m finally getting back to this thread since I left it hours ago when I started it. The last I posted was where I said maybe I am a Karen and ended with “peace”. To answer your question regarding calling to have them bring my smoothies curbside, I tried to call the number when I saw the situation and the phones were not connecting-auto message. While I was able to order the smoothie online via the app I was not able to actually speak with anybody via phone. the only way I could pick up my smoothies was to walk into the store. They were only two women working behind the counter and they were crazy busy, there was a line of about 8 to 10 people waiting to order and another 4 to 6 people waiting by the pick up counter.

. I felt uncomfortable yelling through the door hey, my name is such and such please walk out and give me my smoothies. It did not feel the right thing to do at that time. So I walked away as I stated. And to those who say a Karen is only somebody who unnecessarily calls the police on a black person, what about those of you who are calling me a Karen when that is not the situation in this instance? So yes it sounds like you would still call me a Karen even though I never alluded to calling the police or doing anything like that. So that supports my statement that I have lost my voice, as if I speak up I’m an entitled bitch or a Karen.

The only reason I purchased smoothies from this location was because they were advertising curbside pick up. I have a family member who is high risk, and we have been eating all of our food home cooked. This was a treat for us to actually get some thing outside of our house and also to support a small business. In this case they lost our business.

Thanks for responding to my questions and providing additional details. I personally wouldn’t have called you a Karen — even without the additional information. So: NOT a Karen. Raising your voice to accomplish something constructive is a good thing.

Note: Izze sodas over Ben and Jerry’s Vanilla ice cream are the bomb.

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Anonymous wrote:Middle aged white women have been hated since forever.

The only social currency white women have is their sexual attraction to men. When that goes, society wants to push them off on an ice flow. Since we can't do that, we tell them to STFU and stand quietly in the corner where their aging body and appearance won't offend anyone's eyeballs.

Tell me I'm wrong.

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This is it.


I think this is true to all middle aged women. Why just white? Do people care more about middle aged black woken or middle aged Asian women? ALL women, once past the prime of their attractiveness are less heard

The Karen meme is directed towards white women, but I agree with you 100%.

New poster. I agree about middle-aged women.

But it's funny, two guys were trying to break into my car when I happened to walk outside my house. It was about two weeks ago. I didn't call the police. I didn't want to be a Karen.

But they walked up my block and broke into someone else's car fifteen minutes later. I should have called.

If people are breaking into your car, it is not Karening to call the police.

It is Karening if you call the police because a black person is walking in your neighborhood and you think they might be planning to break into cars. It is Kare omg if you see a black person get into a car and you think the car might not belong to him because it’s a nice car.

I’ve definitely called the police for black men in my neighborhood at night - you know why, every time a car is broken into or someone walks through the neighborhood checking for unlocked vehicles it’s a black man. So when I see one that I don’t know, I call and request a patrol car. Cause and effect. I have a right to protect my property and neighborhood.

How many black men do you know?

I know who doesn’t live here.

It doesn’t hurt to request a patrol to ensure safety.

Or to recognize who is committing the crimes.

The point is that women who feel unsafe shouldn’t be worried about being “a Karen” if they’re feeling uncomfortable and want support, police or otherwise. The entire term is derogatory and puts women into feeling like they can’t speak up. Not saying this more important than others that feel this way, but also that everyone deserves to be heard.

I respectfully suggest that women can do a little reflection and soul searching on why they are afraid to be called a Karen and what cause that fear ultimately serves. It seems pretty clear that there is a big difference between calling the police to report people having a barbecue and calling the police because you can see someone breaking into your car.

With the exception of back and forth name calling on this actual thread, I haven't read any accounts of women being called out in real life. It's purely a fear of being called out. If I read correctly, OP feels silenced, no one actually told her in real life to shut up.

I don't have the energy to figure out the rest of what's going on here, but seriously? You keep tabs on which black men live in your neighborhood, which are visiting someone or new arrivals? That totally makes you a Karen, and I'm 65 and have a cousin I like as well as a close friend (actually, she's deceased) named Karen. (I also know a Chad! And a Brad!)

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As a black person, I find this to be one of the most annoying and disheartening threads on DCUM Ive seen in a long time. So much going on this week and past few months, and this is what OP is whinging about, with racist PPs responding and amplifying about welfare queens, Shanequas, etc.

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These protests and all the looting are just making white people (who voted trump last time) and white propel who were on the fence last time, want to vote for Trump. The white people protesting are the ones who voted for Bernie. Trump voters are power washing the deck or at the pool during the protests. The longer this goes on, the better it is for Trump.

Actually there's widespread support for the protests.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/500883-most-americans-support-protesters-over-trump-shifting

I stopped trusting poll results after the last election.

I think many people don’t understand polls - and, unfortunately, the media seems to encourage this. Who conducted the poll? Who were the people that provided the information? What questions were they asked? We’re they motivated? We’re they honest? Were they representative of their demographic group or a particular geographic area? Is it accurate to compare results from different polls? Do we know who’s registered to vote? Do we know who is actually voting?

With so many eligible voters who don’t vote in this country, I would need a lot of very specific information to interpret poll results. Tragically, I think a lot of people heard the media reports of various poll results and reacted accordingly.

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Anonymous wrote:As a black person, I find this to be one of the most annoying and disheartening threads on DCUM Ive seen in a long time. So much going on this week and past few months, and this is what OP is whinging about, with racist PPs responding and amplifying about welfare queens, Shanequas, etc.

I notice you didn’t mention the comments about white women. Those were okay?

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Anonymous wrote:As a black person, I find this to be one of the most annoying and disheartening threads on DCUM Ive seen in a long time. So much going on this week and past few months, and this is what OP is whinging about, with racist PPs responding and amplifying about welfare queens, Shanequas, etc.

I notice you didn’t mention the comments about white women. Those were okay?

Dear "as a black person" PP, I agree there have been a lot of distracting conversations. I have found the sympathetic to looting perspective from some people really distracting to the life of George Floyd, the murder that occurred, and the action that we may yet be able to come together to take for thoughtful and effective police reform. I don't mind hearing the perspective though, because there is a meta discussion about overall race relations and history in America--which is dynamic, not static and which we all have an entry point to. Part of consciousness-raising is we don't get to choose all the topics people want to raise, explore, think about, fear or celebrate with this discussion. This is a tidal wave that will ultimately change society. You don't get to fully determine its course, nor do I. There is a lot of flotsam and jetsam to pick through. But at least it's not submerged anymore, and that's a good thing (I think)?