The Karen meme silences White women

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Anonymous wrote:Middle aged white women have been hated since forever.

The only social currency white women have is their sexual attraction to men. When that goes, society wants to push them off on an ice flow. Since we can't do that, we tell them to STFU and stand quietly in the corner where their aging body and appearance won't offend anyone's eyeballs.

Tell me I'm wrong.

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This is it.

I think this is true to all middle aged women. Why just white? Do people care more about middle aged black woken or middle aged Asian women? ALL women, once past the prime of their attractiveness are less heard

The Karen meme is directed towards white women, but I agree with you 100%.

New poster. I agree about middle-aged women.

But it's funny, two guys were trying to break into my car when I happened to walk outside my house. It was about two weeks ago. I didn't call the police. I didn't want to be a Karen.

But they walked up my block and broke into someone else's car fifteen minutes later. I should have called.

If people are breaking into your car, it is not Karening to call the police.

It is Karening if you call the police because a black person is walking in your neighborhood and you think they might be planning to break into cars. It is Kare omg if you see a black person get into a car and you think the car might not belong to him because it’s a nice car.

I’ve definitely called the police for black men in my neighborhood at night - you know why, every time a car is broken into or someone walks through the neighborhood checking for unlocked vehicles it’s a black man. So when I see one that I don’t know, I call and request a patrol car. Cause and effect. I have a right to protect my property and neighborhood.

How many black men do you know?

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Anonymous wrote:Entitled white women could stand to be silenced.

Fvck you.

Posts like yours literally get Trump votes.

I voted Obama twice and democrat every time until things went too far left. I voted Trump last time and I’ll vote Trump again. Keep calling me Karen, I don’t care. I’ll keep quiet, look over my shoulder, and then when no one is watching I’ll tick that Trump box. No one knows I voted Trump. It’s quiet people like me you should worry about. You know about the Karen’s. They’re loud and you see them. I’m silent Cindy. There’s lots of us. You won’t know us to see us, but we are here and we will tick that Trump box a second time.

I hate to break it to you, but everyone knows about you. White women voted 47% for openly racist, misogynistic, unqualified Trump, versus 45% for Clinton. This is not top secret information.

Yes, and I don't think anyone was holding their breath and waiting for a change of heart. That was not a key element of any plan.

What is the plan?

I'm not sure you are reading that correctly. Nobody claimed there was "the plan."

But, you, know, people make their own plans every day. maybe you do, too! And none of them were counting on women such as these having a come to Jesus moment.

Oh, I was hoping we could try to get some people to vote D this time. Though I generally think insulting them doesn’t help bring them to our side.

Well, you are welcome to try. "Some people" doesn't have to be this particular kind of person, though.

You can do it!

+1: Pray tell, PP who feels we should continue to reach out to "some people" how do you reason with someone whose logic goes "How dare you call me a racist?! I will now vote for an openly racist white man, that'll show you!"

I would try to talk to them.
https://www.ted.com/talks/celeste_headlee_10_ways_to_have_a_better_conversation/up-next?language=en#t-7042

DP

Mmmmmm ... that's going to work better in person, my friend. I don't think DCUM is a fertile field for changing MAGA minds.

But, I'm sure you are filled with optimism, liberalism, and committed to the cause. Please, go right ahead. We'll see what happens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Middle aged white women have been hated since forever.

The only social currency white women have is their sexual attraction to men. When that goes, society wants to push them off on an ice flow. Since we can't do that, we tell them to STFU and stand quietly in the corner where their aging body and appearance won't offend anyone's eyeballs.

Tell me I'm wrong.

+1
This is it.

I think this is true to all middle aged women. Why just white? Do people care more about middle aged black woken or middle aged Asian women? ALL women, once past the prime of their attractiveness are less heard

The Karen meme is directed towards white women, but I agree with you 100%.

New poster. I agree about middle-aged women.

But it's funny, two guys were trying to break into my car when I happened to walk outside my house. It was about two weeks ago. I didn't call the police. I didn't want to be a Karen.

But they walked up my block and broke into someone else's car fifteen minutes later. I should have called.

If people are breaking into your car, it is not Karening to call the police.

It is Karening if you call the police because a black person is walking in your neighborhood and you think they might be planning to break into cars. It is Kare omg if you see a black person get into a car and you think the car might not belong to him because it’s a nice car.

I’ve definitely called the police for black men in my neighborhood at night - you know why, every time a car is broken into or someone walks through the neighborhood checking for unlocked vehicles it’s a black man. So when I see one that I don’t know, I call and request a patrol car. Cause and effect. I have a right to protect my property and neighborhood.

How many black men do you know?

I know who doesn’t live here.

[Anonymous]

Middle aged white women have been hated since forever.

The only social currency white women have is their sexual attraction to men. When that goes, society wants to push them off on an ice flow. Since we can't do that, we tell them to STFU and stand quietly in the corner where their aging body and appearance won't offend anyone's eyeballs.

Tell me I'm wrong.

+1
This is it.


I think this is true to all middle aged women. Why just white? Do people care more about middle aged black woken or middle aged Asian women? ALL women, once past the prime of their attractiveness are less heard

The Karen meme is directed towards white women, but I agree with you 100%.

New poster. I agree about middle-aged women.

But it's funny, two guys were trying to break into my car when I happened to walk outside my house. It was about two weeks ago. I didn't call the police. I didn't want to be a Karen.

But they walked up my block and broke into someone else's car fifteen minutes later. I should have called.






If people are breaking into your car, it is not Karening to call the police.

It is Karening if you call the police because a black person is walking in your neighborhood and you think they might be planning to break into cars. It is Kare omg if you see a black person get into a car and you think the car might not belong to him because it’s a nice car.

I’ve definitely called the police for black men in my neighborhood at night - you know why, every time a car is broken into or someone walks through the neighborhood checking for unlocked vehicles it’s a black man. So when I see one that I don’t know, I call and request a patrol car. Cause and effect. I have a right to protect my property and neighborhood.

How many black men do you know?

I know who doesn’t live here.

It doesn’t hurt to request a patrol to ensure safety.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Entitled white women could stand to be silenced.

Cool. The next time I hear that black people need white allies, I’ll say f<>k you and the horse you rode in on.

Precisely. This is exactly why I power washed the deck today instead of protesting. OP has a perfectly valid point but it’s not THEIR point so it doesn’t count, and worse, they think she deserves to be bullied over it

I haven’t gone to a single protest and they’re literally happening on my street. You don’t care about me, I don’t care about you. So many negative posts about white women and I just dont care. I watched Netflix on the iPad by my pool all day instead. It was wonderful.

I'm black and I didn't go protest either. I also don't care that you didn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Middle aged white women have been hated since forever.

The only social currency white women have is their sexual attraction to men. When that goes, society wants to push them off on an ice flow. Since we can't do that, we tell them to STFU and stand quietly in the corner where their aging body and appearance won't offend anyone's eyeballs.

Tell me I'm wrong.

+1
This is it.


I think this is true to all middle aged women. Why just white? Do people care more about middle aged black woken or middle aged Asian women? ALL women, once past the prime of their attractiveness are less heard

The Karen meme is directed towards white women, but I agree with you 100%.

New poster. I agree about middle-aged women.

But it's funny, two guys were trying to break into my car when I happened to walk outside my house. It was about two weeks ago. I didn't call the police. I didn't want to be a Karen.

But they walked up my block and broke into someone else's car fifteen minutes later. I should have called.

If people are breaking into your car, it is not Karening to call the police.

It is Karening if you call the police because a black person is walking in your neighborhood and you think they might be planning to break into cars. It is Kare omg if you see a black person get into a car and you think the car might not belong to him because it’s a nice car.

I’ve definitely called the police for black men in my neighborhood at night - you know why, every time a car is broken into or someone walks through the neighborhood checking for unlocked vehicles it’s a black man. So when I see one that I don’t know, I call and request a patrol car. Cause and effect. I have a right to protect my property and neighborhood.

How many black men do you know?

I know who doesn’t live here.

It doesn’t hurt to request a patrol to ensure safety.

Or to recognize who is committing the crimes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Entitled white women could stand to be silenced.

Fvck you.

Posts like yours literally get Trump votes.

I voted Obama twice and democrat every time until things went too far left. I voted Trump last time and I’ll vote Trump again. Keep calling me Karen, I don’t care. I’ll keep quiet, look over my shoulder, and then when no one is watching I’ll tick that Trump box. No one knows I voted Trump. It’s quiet people like me you should worry about. You know about the Karen’s. They’re loud and you see them. I’m silent Cindy. There’s lots of us. You won’t know us to see us, but we are here and we will tick that Trump box a second time.

I hate to break it to you, but everyone knows about you. White women voted 47% for openly racist, misogynistic, unqualified Trump, versus 45% for Clinton. This is not top secret information.

Yes, and I don't think anyone was holding their breath and waiting for a change of heart. That was not a key element of any plan.

What is the plan?

I'm not sure you are reading that correctly. Nobody claimed there was "the plan."

But, you, know, people make their own plans every day. maybe you do, too! And none of them were counting on women such as these having a come to Jesus moment.

Oh, I was hoping we could try to get some people to vote D this time. Though I generally think insulting them doesn’t help bring them to our side.

Well, you are welcome to try. "Some people" doesn't have to be this particular kind of person, though.

You can do it!

+1: Pray tell, PP who feels we should continue to reach out to "some people" how do you reason with someone whose logic goes "How dare you call me a racist?! I will now vote for an openly racist white man, that'll show you!"

I would try to talk to them.
https://www.ted.com/talks/celeste_headlee_10_ways_to_have_a_better_conversation/up-next?language=en#t-7042

DP

Mmmmmm ... that's going to work better in person, my friend. I don't think DCUM is a fertile field for changing MAGA minds.

But, I'm sure you are filled with optimism, liberalism, and committed to the cause. Please, go right ahead. We'll see what happens.

Oh. I agree that I don’t think it will work on DCUM. It would be in person.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Middle aged white women have been hated since forever.

The only social currency white women have is their sexual attraction to men. When that goes, society wants to push them off on an ice flow. Since we can't do that, we tell them to STFU and stand quietly in the corner where their aging body and appearance won't offend anyone's eyeballs.

Tell me I'm wrong.

+1
This is it.


I think this is true to all middle aged women. Why just white? Do people care more about middle aged black woken or middle aged Asian women? ALL women, once past the prime of their attractiveness are less heard

The Karen meme is directed towards white women, but I agree with you 100%.

New poster. I agree about middle-aged women.

But it's funny, two guys were trying to break into my car when I happened to walk outside my house. It was about two weeks ago. I didn't call the police. I didn't want to be a Karen.

But they walked up my block and broke into someone else's car fifteen minutes later. I should have called.

If people are breaking into your car, it is not Karening to call the police.

It is Karening if you call the police because a black person is walking in your neighborhood and you think they might be planning to break into cars. It is Kare omg if you see a black person get into a car and you think the car might not belong to him because it’s a nice car.

I’ve definitely called the police for black men in my neighborhood at night - you know why, every time a car is broken into or someone walks through the neighborhood checking for unlocked vehicles it’s a black man. So when I see one that I don’t know, I call and request a patrol car. Cause and effect. I have a right to protect my property and neighborhood.

How many black men do you know?

I know who doesn’t live here.

It doesn’t hurt to request a patrol to ensure safety.

Or to recognize who is committing the crimes.

The point is that women who feel unsafe shouldn’t be worried about being “a Karen” if they’re feeling uncomfortable and want support, police or otherwise. The entire term is derogatory and puts women into feeling like they can’t speak up. Not saying this more important than others that feel this way, but also that everyone deserves to be heard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Entitled white women could stand to be silenced.

Cool. The next time I hear that black people need white allies, I’ll say f<>k you and the horse you rode in on.

Precisely. This is exactly why I power washed the deck today instead of protesting. OP has a perfectly valid point but it’s not THEIR point so it doesn’t count, and worse, they think she deserves to be bullied over it

I haven’t gone to a single protest and they’re literally happening on my street. You don’t care about me, I don’t care about you. So many negative posts about white women and I just dont care. I watched Netflix on the iPad by my pool all day instead. It was wonderful.

No wonder you have so much sun damage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Middle aged white women have been hated since forever.

The only social currency white women have is their sexual attraction to men. When that goes, society wants to push them off on an ice flow. Since we can't do that, we tell them to STFU and stand quietly in the corner where their aging body and appearance won't offend anyone's eyeballs.

Tell me I'm wrong.

+1
This is it.

I think this is true to all middle aged women. Why just white? Do people care more about middle aged black woken or middle aged Asian women? ALL women, once past the prime of their attractiveness are less heard

The Karen meme is directed towards white women, but I agree with you 100%.

New poster. I agree about middle-aged women.

But it's funny, two guys were trying to break into my car when I happened to walk outside my house. It was about two weeks ago. I didn't call the police. I didn't want to be a Karen.

But they walked up my block and broke into someone else's car fifteen minutes later. I should have called.

If people are breaking into your car, it is not Karening to call the police.

It is Karening if you call the police because a black person is walking in your neighborhood and you think they might be planning to break into cars. It is Kare omg if you see a black person get into a car and you think the car might not belong to him because it’s a nice car.

I’ve definitely called the police for black men in my neighborhood at night - you know why, every time a car is broken into or someone walks through the neighborhood checking for unlocked vehicles it’s a black man. So when I see one that I don’t know, I call and request a patrol car. Cause and effect. I have a right to protect my property and neighborhood.

How many black men do you know?

I know who doesn’t live here.

That’s great. So again, how many black men do you know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Middle aged white women have been hated since forever.

The only social currency white women have is their sexual attraction to men. When that goes, society wants to push them off on an ice flow. Since we can't do that, we tell them to STFU and stand quietly in the corner where their aging body and appearance won't offend anyone's eyeballs.

Tell me I'm wrong.

+1
This is it.


I think this is true to all middle aged women. Why just white? Do people care more about middle aged black woken or middle aged Asian women? ALL women, once past the prime of their attractiveness are less heard

The Karen meme is directed towards white women, but I agree with you 100%.

New poster. I agree about middle-aged women.

But it's funny, two guys were trying to break into my car when I happened to walk outside my house. It was about two weeks ago. I didn't call the police. I didn't want to be a Karen.

But they walked up my block and broke into someone else's car fifteen minutes later. I should have called.

If people are breaking into your car, it is not Karening to call the police.

It is Karening if you call the police because a black person is walking in your neighborhood and you think they might be planning to break into cars. It is Kare omg if you see a black person get into a car and you think the car might not belong to him because it’s a nice car.

I’ve definitely called the police for black men in my neighborhood at night - you know why, every time a car is broken into or someone walks through the neighborhood checking for unlocked vehicles it’s a black man. So when I see one that I don’t know, I call and request a patrol car. Cause and effect. I have a right to protect my property and neighborhood.

How many black men do you know?

I know who doesn’t live here.

It doesn’t hurt to request a patrol to ensure safety.

Or to recognize who is committing the crimes.

The point is that women who feel unsafe shouldn’t be worried about being “a Karen” if they’re feeling uncomfortable and want support, police or otherwise. The entire term is derogatory and puts women into feeling like they can’t speak up. Not saying this more important than others that feel this way, but also that everyone deserves to be heard.

That woman isn’t worried about being a “Karen.” Karen isn’t worried about what others think and she damn sure isn’t staying silent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am the OP, not a troll. And an example of when I might have spoken in the past but did not recently. I ordered curbside pick up from a local smoothie shop a few weeks ago, before we were in phase 1 opening, the restaurant was advertising curbside Pick-up. I ordered my smoothie online, however, When I drove to the shop to pick it up there are a line of people inside the store to order and a line waiting (Inside as well) at the counter to pick up their smoothies. A year ago if this happened, pre-Karen meme, I would have said something along the lines of aren’t we supposed to be doing curbside? Why is everybody in the store? This time I just walked away.

You are absolutely right that the Karen meme has devolved into an attempt to shut white women up. Now that you know, you don't need to be intimidated by it, or second-guess yourself. Instead of "Am I being a Karen?" ask yourself "Would a man make this request, and would he get what he's asking for? Would he be placed in the position to have to ask at all?" And if you want to take into account the recriminations of all those loving on the Karen meme, you can also ask yourself "bottom line: is the outcome worth my upset? Is the person across from me being a total jerk or just a total idiot? Should I back off rather than make them feel like crap, or are they taking advantage of me right now? Regardless, is it worth it?"

As far as the smoothies go, I would have walked away because COVID, not because meme. Businesses should adapt, and they should limit the online purchases or give a window of time to show up, or put a banner at the top of their page that there will be a wait. But because COVID, everything is harder, and ultimately they can get away with more BS, and you can't quite call them out on anything anymore.

Bringing up the fact that black women on this forum like to attack white women calling them Karens and telling them to shut up more is just giving some posters on this forum more opportunities to be awful to you and say more slurs about white women.

Maybe at least it brings up race relations among women. In the workplace in the DC area, it can be bad. I've seen many situations where black women would rather support a white man than a white woman, and would give any amount of power to a white man if it takes it away from a white woman (I wrote this thinking of workplace dynamics not presidential elections. I know black women voted Hillary). Bottom line is that as it turns out, this is not the time for feminism. We have to be allies to people of color, but it is not the time to expect women of color to be allies of white women.

I think it's interesting that you assume negative comments about white women here must be from black women.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Middle aged white women have been hated since forever.

The only social currency white women have is their sexual attraction to men. When that goes, society wants to push them off on an ice flow. Since we can't do that, we tell them to STFU and stand quietly in the corner where their aging body and appearance won't offend anyone's eyeballs.

Tell me I'm wrong.

+1
This is it.

I think this is true to all middle aged women. Why just white? Do people care more about middle aged black woken or middle aged Asian women? ALL women, once past the prime of their attractiveness are less heard

The Karen meme is directed towards white women, but I agree with you 100%.

New poster. I agree about middle-aged women.

But it's funny, two guys were trying to break into my car when I happened to walk outside my house. It was about two weeks ago. I didn't call the police. I didn't want to be a Karen.

But they walked up my block and broke into someone else's car fifteen minutes later. I should have called.

If people are breaking into your car, it is not Karening to call the police.

It is Karening if you call the police because a black person is walking in your neighborhood and you think they might be planning to break into cars. It is Kare omg if you see a black person get into a car and you think the car might not belong to him because it’s a nice car.

I’ve definitely called the police for black men in my neighborhood at night - you know why, every time a car is broken into or someone walks through the neighborhood checking for unlocked vehicles it’s a black man. So when I see one that I don’t know, I call and request a patrol car. Cause and effect. I have a right to protect my property and neighborhood.

How many black men do you know?

I know who doesn’t live here.

That’s great. So again, how many black men do you know?

Not sure why that’s relevant? A few

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Middle aged white women have been hated since forever.

The only social currency white women have is their sexual attraction to men. When that goes, society wants to push them off on an ice flow. Since we can't do that, we tell them to STFU and stand quietly in the corner where their aging body and appearance won't offend anyone's eyeballs.

Tell me I'm wrong.

+1
This is it.


I think this is true to all middle aged women. Why just white? Do people care more about middle aged black woken or middle aged Asian women? ALL women, once past the prime of their attractiveness are less heard

The Karen meme is directed towards white women, but I agree with you 100%.

New poster. I agree about middle-aged women.

But it's funny, two guys were trying to break into my car when I happened to walk outside my house. It was about two weeks ago. I didn't call the police. I didn't want to be a Karen.

But they walked up my block and broke into someone else's car fifteen minutes later. I should have called.

If people are breaking into your car, it is not Karening to call the police.

It is Karening if you call the police because a black person is walking in your neighborhood and you think they might be planning to break into cars. It is Kare omg if you see a black person get into a car and you think the car might not belong to him because it’s a nice car.

I’ve definitely called the police for black men in my neighborhood at night - you know why, every time a car is broken into or someone walks through the neighborhood checking for unlocked vehicles it’s a black man. So when I see one that I don’t know, I call and request a patrol car. Cause and effect. I have a right to protect my property and neighborhood.

How many black men do you know?

I know who doesn’t live here.

It doesn’t hurt to request a patrol to ensure safety.

Or to recognize who is committing the crimes.

The point is that women who feel unsafe shouldn’t be worried about being “a Karen” if they’re feeling uncomfortable and want support, police or otherwise. The entire term is derogatory and puts women into feeling like they can’t speak up. Not saying this more important than others that feel this way, but also that everyone deserves to be heard.

I respectfully suggest that women can do a little reflection and soul searching on why they are afraid to be called a Karen and what cause that fear ultimately serves. It seems pretty clear that there is a big difference between calling the police to report people having a barbecue and calling the police because you can see someone breaking into your car.

With the exception of back and forth name calling on this actual thread, I haven't read any accounts of women being called out in real life. It's purely a fear of being called out. If I read correctly, OP feels silenced, no one actually told her in real life to shut up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All those Karens out there. Let's discriminate and put down white women. Shift the focus to them, not white men. Bravo.

I agree that white women shouldn't be the target, but I also think your statement is divisive. So, now we'll just start calling white men a terrible name....so that they'll improve? Putting people down has never been a catalyst for improvement. Plenty of white men (and other peopel) are assholes, but you will not solve this problem saying, "Hey assholes! Get it together!"