Family Beach House- DS and Friends Using it for Summer.

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Anonymous wrote:My DH's family has a really special, small beach house on the coast of North Carolina. It's old, small (3 beds, 1.5 baths), on a beautiful piece of property and just something you dream of owning. It's been in his family for three generations.

This summer our college-age DS and two of his male cousins are going to live and work at the beach. They will live in the house.

There is an extremely basic 'outbuilding' on the property. Think glorified shed. It has no bathroom, running water or kitchen. It's basically a simple bunk room with lights and a window AC that we have used as overflow bedrooms during family vacations.

One of many of DS's DC friends wants to live there for the summer. My BILs signed off on it but want to charge a nominal $333 a month rent ($1000 for the summer) and limit it to one kid because they will all being using one septic tank. They also want the chosen kid to sign a basic lease to cover damages.

So, I brought this up to the chosen boy's mom- who I'm very friendly with but not close close.

I thought she was going to faint. Her reaction was one of disgust. She actually thought her son was going to live rent free at out family beach house for three months.

Today I heard she was bad mouthing me to other friends, calling me a cheap skate, etc.

Do I go ballistic and dis-invite the kid?

Really special? GMAF break.

You sound like a complete piece work. Your son must be (should be) mortified that you're trying to charge a friend he invited rent to live in a shack. I probably wouldn't have bothered sh!t talking behind your back, I would have just told you to shove it.

Good grief.

OP here. Found the scum. Sorry you can't appreciate gorgeous acreage and historic property on the coast of NC. Too bad so sad you were raised broke (and probably in a trailer.)

This is absolutely classic because it's not even your house, it's your husband's family's house. I am dying at you trying to act to the manor born over marrying someone with a 1/12th ownership interest in a 3/1.5 with an air conditioned shed.

This. From OP’s description, it’s tiny and run down. But in the vicinity of wealthy people, which is enough for OP.

Wrong. The OP described a lovely beach house that is the thing that people dream of owning. Did you even read the thread?

The only updates in the thread are that the house is poorly maintained and the septic tank is at its absolute limit with 4 occupants. The fact that it sits on acreage is the only thing she's said that sounds nice about it.

"My DH's family has a really special, small beach house on the coast of North Carolina. It's old, small (3 beds, 1.5 baths), on a beautiful piece of property and just something you dream of owning"

What part told you it was run down? The "really special" part or the "something you dream of owning" part? You stink of jealousy.

And for anybody prattling on about the septic tank you obviously don't know sh*t (pun intended) about them. They are rated on the number of bedrooms a home has and they have to perc (or slowly drain) at a certain rate. This is difficult to balance in low lying, sandy soil so it is an issue whether the house is a 5 million dollar mansion or a one room shack. Really, your ignorance is embarrassing.

What you've just quoted wasn't an update. That was from the first post. OP has come back several times to say that the reason they're charging this kid is because the house needs maintenance, they believe having a fourth person might overload the septic tank, etc. She said very recently that she was pushing to add additional renters this summer and use the income for deferred maintenance. Again, all of this is in updates in the thread. She called it small but special in the OP. The only update that she has posted since the OP that sounded remotely nice is that she added there is acreage. Acreage on the coast is worth something. The house doesn't sound special or nice at all.

This is rich. This poster is claiming a house she hasn't even seen isn't special or nice, despite the owner of the house describing it precisely as special and nice

Nowhere did she say the home needed lots of maintenance. She made a comment about the septic tank and that was explained by the very post you quoted but you failed to grasp it. Septic tanks are rated for bedrooms- so if you have a 4 bedroom house, its unwise to have more than 4 people using the bathrooms and kitchen.

She made no mention of painting or window replacements or redoing the roof or fixing rot or landscaping or... anything related to maintenance.

Each post just makes you look more and more jealous.

It's the emojis that really sell this.

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Anonymous wrote:$1000 isn't going to make a difference to your septic tank if its close enough to failing that 1 extra person (who is out working all day) is going to break it.

One must always look at the marginal cost vs. gain in any situation. Lets say you rented it out all summer to strangers. it sounds like a bit of a cr&phole but you could get, what, $2500/month for it? So you'd get $7500 for the summer. Since the youngsters will be living there, you're already giving up $7500. Taking his grand means you're giving up $6500. Is this marginal amount worth you acting totally unclassy and cheap?

$2500 a month for a 3 month lease on a 3 bed beach house on land?

Ahh, you're dreaming. You can't even find a 3 bed beach front house for $2500 a week on the Outer Banks (where I suspect OP's house is). And you're talking about a short term lease, which come at huge premium.

Take the shitbox listed below. It's $2900 a week. So it generates $35,000 a summer. You'd be incredibly lucky to negotiate a lease on that for $8000 a month, or a 10K discount for the entire summer. You'd have to convince the owner that your offer is better than the possibility it would sit vacant for at least three weeks, which is incredibly unlikely. Vacancy rates on the Outer Banks are in the low single digits during prime season. I don't think many of the posters here realize what a gift shed boy is being offered.

https://www.hatterasrealty.com/vacation-rentals/hunter-haven-6hhh

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Anonymous wrote:$1000 isn't going to make a difference to your septic tank if its close enough to failing that 1 extra person (who is out working all day) is going to break it.

One must always look at the marginal cost vs. gain in any situation. Lets say you rented it out all summer to strangers. it sounds like a bit of a cr&phole but you could get, what, $2500/month for it? So you'd get $7500 for the summer. Since the youngsters will be living there, you're already giving up $7500. Taking his grand means you're giving up $6500. Is this marginal amount worth you acting totally unclassy and cheap?

$2500 a month for a 3 month lease on a 3 bed beach house on land?

Ahh, you're dreaming. You can't even find a 3 bed beach front house for $2500 a week on the Outer Banks (where I suspect OP's house is). And you're talking about a short term lease, which come at huge premium.

Take the shitbox listed below. It's $2900 a week. So it generates $35,000 a summer. You'd be incredibly lucky to negotiate a lease on that for $8000 a month, or a 10K discount for the entire summer. You'd have to convince the owner that your offer is better than the possibility it would sit vacant for at least three weeks, which is incredibly unlikely. Vacancy rates on the Outer Banks are in the low single digits during prime season. I don't think many of the posters here realize what a gift shed boy is being offered.

https://www.hatterasrealty.com/vacation-rentals/hunter-haven-6hhh

But your post only makes PP's point stronger. These people are supposedly giving up 35K, and they want to end a friendship and feel superior over charging $1K for a shed? Regardless of whether it is a fair price (it probably is, but who knows), it just confirms that she is petty and weird.

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Anonymous wrote:$1000 isn't going to make a difference to your septic tank if its close enough to failing that 1 extra person (who is out working all day) is going to break it.

One must always look at the marginal cost vs. gain in any situation. Lets say you rented it out all summer to strangers. it sounds like a bit of a cr&phole but you could get, what, $2500/month for it? So you'd get $7500 for the summer. Since the youngsters will be living there, you're already giving up $7500. Taking his grand means you're giving up $6500. Is this marginal amount worth you acting totally unclassy and cheap?

$2500 a month for a 3 month lease on a 3 bed beach house on land?

Ahh, you're dreaming. You can't even find a 3 bed beach front house for $2500 a week on the Outer Banks (where I suspect OP's house is). And you're talking about a short term lease, which come at huge premium.

Take the shitbox listed below. It's $2900 a week. So it generates $35,000 a summer. You'd be incredibly lucky to negotiate a lease on that for $8000 a month, or a 10K discount for the entire summer. You'd have to convince the owner that your offer is better than the possibility it would sit vacant for at least three weeks, which is incredibly unlikely. Vacancy rates on the Outer Banks are in the low single digits during prime season. I don't think many of the posters here realize what a gift shed boy is being offered.

https://www.hatterasrealty.com/vacation-rentals/hunter-haven-6hhh

But your post only makes PP's point stronger. These people are supposedly giving up 35K, and they want to end a friendship and feel superior over charging $1K for a shed? Regardless of whether it is a fair price (it probably is, but who knows), it just confirms that she is petty and weird.

No, it doesn't. OP's family doesn't rent the house. If I own a $50,000 Mercedes that's sitting in my garage and give it to you for $500, that's one hell of a deal for you and doesn't make me petty.

Further, OP isn't the one ending the friendship. The rude mom of shed boy did. The onus isn't on OP to offer shed boy or his mother anything. Shed boy and his mom are entitled to exactly nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:$1000 isn't going to make a difference to your septic tank if its close enough to failing that 1 extra person (who is out working all day) is going to break it.

One must always look at the marginal cost vs. gain in any situation. Lets say you rented it out all summer to strangers. it sounds like a bit of a cr&phole but you could get, what, $2500/month for it? So you'd get $7500 for the summer. Since the youngsters will be living there, you're already giving up $7500. Taking his grand means you're giving up $6500. Is this marginal amount worth you acting totally unclassy and cheap?

$2500 a month for a 3 month lease on a 3 bed beach house on land?

Ahh, you're dreaming. You can't even find a 3 bed beach front house for $2500 a week on the Outer Banks (where I suspect OP's house is). And you're talking about a short term lease, which come at huge premium.

Take the shitbox listed below. It's $2900 a week. So it generates $35,000 a summer. You'd be incredibly lucky to negotiate a lease on that for $8000 a month, or a 10K discount for the entire summer. You'd have to convince the owner that your offer is better than the possibility it would sit vacant for at least three weeks, which is incredibly unlikely. Vacancy rates on the Outer Banks are in the low single digits during prime season. I don't think many of the posters here realize what a gift shed boy is being offered.

https://www.hatterasrealty.com/vacation-rentals/hunter-haven-6hhh

But your post only makes PP's point stronger. These people are supposedly giving up 35K, and they want to end a friendship and feel superior over charging $1K for a shed? Regardless of whether it is a fair price (it probably is, but who knows), it just confirms that she is petty and weird.

No, it doesn't. OP's family doesn't rent the house. If I own a $50,000 Mercedes that's sitting in my garage and give it to you for $500, that's one hell of a deal for you and doesn't make me petty.

Further, OP isn't the one ending the friendship. The rude mom of shed boy did. The onus isn't on OP to offer shed boy or his mother anything. Shed boy and his mom are entitled to exactly nothing.

I don't know if you are being daft on purpose, but that example is not at all on point. The shed is not going to be rented separately when the main house is being occupied by family. There is no marginal value to the family who owns the house. They are foregoing tens of thousands of dollars in rent to let the kids stay there, which of course they are entitled to do. But then they see an opportunity to chisel the kid's friend out of $1000 and are huffy that the mom (and probably friend) think that's bs. And the OP is surprised by that!

A better car example than the one OP gave would be if you had an empty shed on your property that you weren't using, offered to let me store my car there for a month, and then decided (after the offer was made, apparently) to charge me $1000, and then was surprised I wasn't interested in that screaming deal because houses in the area rent for $5000 a month. Of course you are entitled to do that, but that entitlement doesn't make you any less of a gauche cheapskate.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is paying $1000 a month this summer to share a bedroom in a 3 bedroom cottage with one bath.

Indoors. With plumbing.

Right. Just like OP's friend. His room is indoors in conditioned space and comes with plumbing.

Right. In the MAIN generational house. lol

So proximity matters? The kid in the shed could very easily be closer to water and kitchen then a kid upstairs and down a hall. You don't know and never will.

The house has one bathroom. I’m going to go out on a limb and guarantee the single bathroom in a one-bathroom house is closer to the bedrooms than to the shed.

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Anonymous wrote:$1000 isn't going to make a difference to your septic tank if its close enough to failing that 1 extra person (who is out working all day) is going to break it.

One must always look at the marginal cost vs. gain in any situation. Lets say you rented it out all summer to strangers. it sounds like a bit of a cr&phole but you could get, what, $2500/month for it? So you'd get $7500 for the summer. Since the youngsters will be living there, you're already giving up $7500. Taking his grand means you're giving up $6500. Is this marginal amount worth you acting totally unclassy and cheap?

$2500 a month for a 3 month lease on a 3 bed beach house on land?

Ahh, you're dreaming. You can't even find a 3 bed beach front house for $2500 a week on the Outer Banks (where I suspect OP's house is). And you're talking about a short term lease, which come at huge premium.

Take the shitbox listed below. It's $2900 a week. So it generates $35,000 a summer. You'd be incredibly lucky to negotiate a lease on that for $8000 a month, or a 10K discount for the entire summer. You'd have to convince the owner that your offer is better than the possibility it would sit vacant for at least three weeks, which is incredibly unlikely. Vacancy rates on the Outer Banks are in the low single digits during prime season. I don't think many of the posters here realize what a gift shed boy is being offered.

https://www.hatterasrealty.com/vacation-rentals/hunter-haven-6hhh

But your post only makes PP's point stronger. These people are supposedly giving up 35K, and they want to end a friendship and feel superior over charging $1K for a shed? Regardless of whether it is a fair price (it probably is, but who knows), it just confirms that she is petty and weird.

No, it doesn't. OP's family doesn't rent the house. If I own a $50,000 Mercedes that's sitting in my garage and give it to you for $500, that's one hell of a deal for you and doesn't make me petty.

Further, OP isn't the one ending the friendship. The rude mom of shed boy did. The onus isn't on OP to offer shed boy or his mother anything. Shed boy and his mom are entitled to exactly nothing.

I don't know if you are being daft on purpose, but that example is not at all on point. The shed is not going to be rented separately when the main house is being occupied by family. There is no marginal value to the family who owns the house. They are foregoing tens of thousands of dollars in rent to let the kids stay there, which of course they are entitled to do. But then they see an opportunity to chisel the kid's friend out of $1000 and are huffy that the mom (and probably friend) think that's bs. And the OP is surprised by that!

A better car example than the one OP gave would be if you had an empty shed on your property that you weren't using, offered to let me store my car there for a month, and then decided (after the offer was made, apparently) to charge me $1000, and then was surprised I wasn't interested in that screaming deal because houses in the area rent for $5000 a month. Of course you are entitled to do that, but that entitlement doesn't make you any less of a gauche cheapskate.

The boy won't be living in the shed anymore than the boys will be living in their bedrooms. Do you suppose the boys with bedrooms will be denied living in the house? That theyre quarantined to their rooms? No, they will use the kitchen and baths. Just like the shed boy will. The boy would be sleeping in the shed but living in the house. How is that hard to grasp?

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How has this gone to 300 posts? If you're the parent of a kid who thinks hes entitled to live at someone else's beach house for free for a summer you have failed as a parent.

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Lots of tacky behavior to go 'round. And "generational" sounds pretentious. It's not equitable because the cousins are not paying, while the outlier is expected to live in a shed and pay. The cousins will learn that they are apparently "really special," just like the generational beach house. And why? Because someone died and left their parents a 3/1.5 purchased a long time ago, for much less? Get some noblesse oblige and make it all pay or none pay. Also, be prepared to address some unreported damage at the end of the season....

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of tacky behavior to go 'round. And "generational" sounds pretentious. It's not equitable because the cousins are not paying, while the outlier is expected to live in a shed and pay. The cousins will learn that they are apparently "really special," just like the generational beach house. And why? Because someone died and left their parents a 3/1.5 purchased a long time ago, for much less? Get some noblesse oblige and make it all pay or none pay. Also, be prepared to address some unreported damage at the end of the season....

Of course it's not equitable. The other kid DOESN'T OWN IT!

I really fear for my kids if this the mentality they will surrounded by in 15 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of tacky behavior to go 'round. And "generational" sounds pretentious. It's not equitable because the cousins are not paying, while the outlier is expected to live in a shed and pay. The cousins will learn that they are apparently "really special," just like the generational beach house. And why? Because someone died and left their parents a 3/1.5 purchased a long time ago, for much less? Get some noblesse oblige and make it all pay or none pay. Also, be prepared to address some unreported damage at the end of the season....

Of course it's not equitable. The other kid DOESN'T OWN IT!

I really fear for my kids if this the mentality they will surrounded by in 15 years.

Neither do the cousins, amirite?

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Anonymous wrote:$1000 isn't going to make a difference to your septic tank if its close enough to failing that 1 extra person (who is out working all day) is going to break it.

One must always look at the marginal cost vs. gain in any situation. Lets say you rented it out all summer to strangers. it sounds like a bit of a cr&phole but you could get, what, $2500/month for it? So you'd get $7500 for the summer. Since the youngsters will be living there, you're already giving up $7500. Taking his grand means you're giving up $6500. Is this marginal amount worth you acting totally unclassy and cheap?

$2500 a month for a 3 month lease on a 3 bed beach house on land?

Ahh, you're dreaming. You can't even find a 3 bed beach front house for $2500 a week on the Outer Banks (where I suspect OP's house is). And you're talking about a short term lease, which come at huge premium.

Take the shitbox listed below. It's $2900 a week. So it generates $35,000 a summer. You'd be incredibly lucky to negotiate a lease on that for $8000 a month, or a 10K discount for the entire summer. You'd have to convince the owner that your offer is better than the possibility it would sit vacant for at least three weeks, which is incredibly unlikely. Vacancy rates on the Outer Banks are in the low single digits during prime season. I don't think many of the posters here realize what a gift shed boy is being offered.

https://www.hatterasrealty.com/vacation-rentals/hunter-haven-6hhh

But your post only makes PP's point stronger. These people are supposedly giving up 35K, and they want to end a friendship and feel superior over charging $1K for a shed? Regardless of whether it is a fair price (it probably is, but who knows), it just confirms that she is petty and weird.

No, it doesn't. OP's family doesn't rent the house. If I own a $50,000 Mercedes that's sitting in my garage and give it to you for $500, that's one hell of a deal for you and doesn't make me petty.

Further, OP isn't the one ending the friendship. The rude mom of shed boy did. The onus isn't on OP to offer shed boy or his mother anything. Shed boy and his mom are entitled to exactly nothing.

I don't know if you are being daft on purpose, but that example is not at all on point. The shed is not going to be rented separately when the main house is being occupied by family. There is no marginal value to the family who owns the house. They are foregoing tens of thousands of dollars in rent to let the kids stay there, which of course they are entitled to do. But then they see an opportunity to chisel the kid's friend out of $1000 and are huffy that the mom (and probably friend) think that's bs. And the OP is surprised by that!

A better car example than the one OP gave would be if you had an empty shed on your property that you weren't using, offered to let me store my car there for a month, and then decided (after the offer was made, apparently) to charge me $1000, and then was surprised I wasn't interested in that screaming deal because houses in the area rent for $5000 a month. Of course you are entitled to do that, but that entitlement doesn't make you any less of a gauche cheapskate.

The boy won't be living in the shed anymore than the boys will be living in their bedrooms. Do you suppose the boys with bedrooms will be denied living in the house? That theyre quarantined to their rooms? No, they will use the kitchen and baths. Just like the shed boy will. The boy would be sleeping in the shed but living in the house. How is that hard to grasp?

Beside the point. If you want to charge for utilities, fine (although tacky). But the point is there is no marginal cost to letting the kid sleep in the shed, so charging $1000 is cheap and tacky. Sad that you don't see that.

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Anonymous wrote:$1000 isn't going to make a difference to your septic tank if its close enough to failing that 1 extra person (who is out working all day) is going to break it.

One must always look at the marginal cost vs. gain in any situation. Lets say you rented it out all summer to strangers. it sounds like a bit of a cr&phole but you could get, what, $2500/month for it? So you'd get $7500 for the summer. Since the youngsters will be living there, you're already giving up $7500. Taking his grand means you're giving up $6500. Is this marginal amount worth you acting totally unclassy and cheap?

$2500 a month for a 3 month lease on a 3 bed beach house on land?

Ahh, you're dreaming. You can't even find a 3 bed beach front house for $2500 a week on the Outer Banks (where I suspect OP's house is). And you're talking about a short term lease, which come at huge premium.

Take the shitbox listed below. It's $2900 a week. So it generates $35,000 a summer. You'd be incredibly lucky to negotiate a lease on that for $8000 a month, or a 10K discount for the entire summer. You'd have to convince the owner that your offer is better than the possibility it would sit vacant for at least three weeks, which is incredibly unlikely. Vacancy rates on the Outer Banks are in the low single digits during prime season. I don't think many of the posters here realize what a gift shed boy is being offered.

https://www.hatterasrealty.com/vacation-rentals/hunter-haven-6hhh

But your post only makes PP's point stronger. These people are supposedly giving up 35K, and they want to end a friendship and feel superior over charging $1K for a shed? Regardless of whether it is a fair price (it probably is, but who knows), it just confirms that she is petty and weird.

No, it doesn't. OP's family doesn't rent the house. If I own a $50,000 Mercedes that's sitting in my garage and give it to you for $500, that's one hell of a deal for you and doesn't make me petty.

Further, OP isn't the one ending the friendship. The rude mom of shed boy did. The onus isn't on OP to offer shed boy or his mother anything. Shed boy and his mom are entitled to exactly nothing.

I don't know if you are being daft on purpose, but that example is not at all on point. The shed is not going to be rented separately when the main house is being occupied by family. There is no marginal value to the family who owns the house. They are foregoing tens of thousands of dollars in rent to let the kids stay there, which of course they are entitled to do. But then they see an opportunity to chisel the kid's friend out of $1000 and are huffy that the mom (and probably friend) think that's bs. And the OP is surprised by that!

A better car example than the one OP gave would be if you had an empty shed on your property that you weren't using, offered to let me store my car there for a month, and then decided (after the offer was made, apparently) to charge me $1000, and then was surprised I wasn't interested in that screaming deal because houses in the area rent for $5000 a month. Of course you are entitled to do that, but that entitlement doesn't make you any less of a gauche cheapskate.

The boy won't be living in the shed anymore than the boys will be living in their bedrooms. Do you suppose the boys with bedrooms will be denied living in the house? That theyre quarantined to their rooms? No, they will use the kitchen and baths. Just like the shed boy will. The boy would be sleeping in the shed but living in the house. How is that hard to grasp?

Beside the point. If you want to charge for utilities, fine (although tacky). But the point is there is no marginal cost to letting the kid sleep in the shed, so charging $1000 is cheap and tacky. Sad that you don't see that.

Sad that you're too dumb to see that his use of the house and its amenities (oven, stove, fridge, electricty, trash service, hot water, AC, cable, etc) is identical to that of the owner's children as well as the added cost of cooling and electrifying his own personal cabin.

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Anonymous wrote:$1000 isn't going to make a difference to your septic tank if its close enough to failing that 1 extra person (who is out working all day) is going to break it.

One must always look at the marginal cost vs. gain in any situation. Lets say you rented it out all summer to strangers. it sounds like a bit of a cr&phole but you could get, what, $2500/month for it? So you'd get $7500 for the summer. Since the youngsters will be living there, you're already giving up $7500. Taking his grand means you're giving up $6500. Is this marginal amount worth you acting totally unclassy and cheap?

$2500 a month for a 3 month lease on a 3 bed beach house on land?

Ahh, you're dreaming. You can't even find a 3 bed beach front house for $2500 a week on the Outer Banks (where I suspect OP's house is). And you're talking about a short term lease, which come at huge premium.

Take the shitbox listed below. It's $2900 a week. So it generates $35,000 a summer. You'd be incredibly lucky to negotiate a lease on that for $8000 a month, or a 10K discount for the entire summer. You'd have to convince the owner that your offer is better than the possibility it would sit vacant for at least three weeks, which is incredibly unlikely. Vacancy rates on the Outer Banks are in the low single digits during prime season. I don't think many of the posters here realize what a gift shed boy is being offered.

https://www.hatterasrealty.com/vacation-rentals/hunter-haven-6hhh

But your post only makes PP's point stronger. These people are supposedly giving up 35K, and they want to end a friendship and feel superior over charging $1K for a shed? Regardless of whether it is a fair price (it probably is, but who knows), it just confirms that she is petty and weird.

No, it doesn't. OP's family doesn't rent the house. If I own a $50,000 Mercedes that's sitting in my garage and give it to you for $500, that's one hell of a deal for you and doesn't make me petty.

Further, OP isn't the one ending the friendship. The rude mom of shed boy did. The onus isn't on OP to offer shed boy or his mother anything. Shed boy and his mom are entitled to exactly nothing.

I don't know if you are being daft on purpose, but that example is not at all on point. The shed is not going to be rented separately when the main house is being occupied by family. There is no marginal value to the family who owns the house. They are foregoing tens of thousands of dollars in rent to let the kids stay there, which of course they are entitled to do. But then they see an opportunity to chisel the kid's friend out of $1000 and are huffy that the mom (and probably friend) think that's bs. And the OP is surprised by that!

A better car example than the one OP gave would be if you had an empty shed on your property that you weren't using, offered to let me store my car there for a month, and then decided (after the offer was made, apparently) to charge me $1000, and then was surprised I wasn't interested in that screaming deal because houses in the area rent for $5000 a month. Of course you are entitled to do that, but that entitlement doesn't make you any less of a gauche cheapskate.

The boy won't be living in the shed anymore than the boys will be living in their bedrooms. Do you suppose the boys with bedrooms will be denied living in the house? That theyre quarantined to their rooms? No, they will use the kitchen and baths. Just like the shed boy will. The boy would be sleeping in the shed but living in the house. How is that hard to grasp?

Beside the point. If you want to charge for utilities, fine (although tacky). But the point is there is no marginal cost to letting the kid sleep in the shed, so charging $1000 is cheap and tacky. Sad that you don't see that.

Sad that you're too dumb to see that his use of the house and its amenities (oven, stove, fridge, electricty, trash service, hot water, AC, cable, etc) is identical to that of the owner's children as well as the added cost of cooling and electrifying his own personal cabin.

Tickety-tack tacky. Do you even hear yourself?!

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Anonymous wrote:$1000 isn't going to make a difference to your septic tank if its close enough to failing that 1 extra person (who is out working all day) is going to break it.

One must always look at the marginal cost vs. gain in any situation. Lets say you rented it out all summer to strangers. it sounds like a bit of a cr&phole but you could get, what, $2500/month for it? So you'd get $7500 for the summer. Since the youngsters will be living there, you're already giving up $7500. Taking his grand means you're giving up $6500. Is this marginal amount worth you acting totally unclassy and cheap?

$2500 a month for a 3 month lease on a 3 bed beach house on land?

Ahh, you're dreaming. You can't even find a 3 bed beach front house for $2500 a week on the Outer Banks (where I suspect OP's house is). And you're talking about a short term lease, which come at huge premium.

Take the shitbox listed below. It's $2900 a week. So it generates $35,000 a summer. You'd be incredibly lucky to negotiate a lease on that for $8000 a month, or a 10K discount for the entire summer. You'd have to convince the owner that your offer is better than the possibility it would sit vacant for at least three weeks, which is incredibly unlikely. Vacancy rates on the Outer Banks are in the low single digits during prime season. I don't think many of the posters here realize what a gift shed boy is being offered.

https://www.hatterasrealty.com/vacation-rentals/hunter-haven-6hhh

But your post only makes PP's point stronger. These people are supposedly giving up 35K, and they want to end a friendship and feel superior over charging $1K for a shed? Regardless of whether it is a fair price (it probably is, but who knows), it just confirms that she is petty and weird.

No, it doesn't. OP's family doesn't rent the house. If I own a $50,000 Mercedes that's sitting in my garage and give it to you for $500, that's one hell of a deal for you and doesn't make me petty.

Further, OP isn't the one ending the friendship. The rude mom of shed boy did. The onus isn't on OP to offer shed boy or his mother anything. Shed boy and his mom are entitled to exactly nothing.

I don't know if you are being daft on purpose, but that example is not at all on point. The shed is not going to be rented separately when the main house is being occupied by family. There is no marginal value to the family who owns the house. They are foregoing tens of thousands of dollars in rent to let the kids stay there, which of course they are entitled to do. But then they see an opportunity to chisel the kid's friend out of $1000 and are huffy that the mom (and probably friend) think that's bs. And the OP is surprised by that!

A better car example than the one OP gave would be if you had an empty shed on your property that you weren't using, offered to let me store my car there for a month, and then decided (after the offer was made, apparently) to charge me $1000, and then was surprised I wasn't interested in that screaming deal because houses in the area rent for $5000 a month. Of course you are entitled to do that, but that entitlement doesn't make you any less of a gauche cheapskate.

The boy won't be living in the shed anymore than the boys will be living in their bedrooms. Do you suppose the boys with bedrooms will be denied living in the house? That theyre quarantined to their rooms? No, they will use the kitchen and baths. Just like the shed boy will. The boy would be sleeping in the shed but living in the house. How is that hard to grasp?

Beside the point. If you want to charge for utilities, fine (although tacky). But the point is there is no marginal cost to letting the kid sleep in the shed, so charging $1000 is cheap and tacky. Sad that you don't see that.

It doesn't matter that he sleeps in the shed. His use of the house is the same as if he's be sleeping on the couch. In fact, he probably will sleep on the couch.