Student attacked with taser in Oakton HS locker room

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Instead of attacking the perpetrators they would be more effective if they attacked FCPS for the incorrect punishment and demand more just punishment. A large outcry among the public would sway things and would achieve their long term objective.

Does anyone know for sure what the punishment is? Is there also police involvement?

DP. Because the attackers are juveniles, we aren't going to hear much, if anything, about how this gets handled. No school system will ever discuss publicly how a student was disciplined; a school MIGHT issue a generic "appropriate actions were taken" statement in a very public case like this one, but it won't give details. I wish that FCPS would at least issue a statement saying whether the students are (for example) "no longer at Oakton HS and not at any other FCPS HS" or whatever. There are rumors now that some attackers might have been transferred to other high schools -- regular high schools, not the "alternative" schools used for students with disciplinary issues. FCPS isn't going to come out and say where they are but if they're in regular high schools, parents in those schools should get reassurance from their principals that these students are being closely monitored. Again, IF they're in regular local schools. We don't know and should be careful not to let rumors grow. I just wish FCPS would say something even if it's generic.

Blah blah blah. You know FCPS isn’t going to issue any such statement.

This thread should have been locked by now. If this incident had happened at Wilson HS, it would have been locked after a week (or two at most).

Why so eager to see this thread shut? Discussion bothers you? You might have missed that I'm talking about how to quash rumors, not how to keep them going. I didn't say FCPS would issue anything. I pointed out that they don't discuss discipline. I just know that if one of these attackers were at my kid's HS the rumor mill would go nuts and it would be beneficial for someone in authority at the receiving school to recognize its better to get out ahead of tumors than let them fester. No specifics needed but FCPS can talk generally about what it's doing to prevent a repeat of that kind of incident and how it places students who have been involved in physical altercations.

You seem invested in wanting this all to go away. Parents at Oakton and all FCPS high schools should want to know how this kind of thing is, or is not, handled.

You sure do love the sound of your own voice, don’t you?

[Anonymous]

OHS parent here.

My DC is a freshman. The rumor mill has died down - a bit. Everyone in 9th grade knows the names of the assailants. They are no longer in the “in” crowd at any HS within 5 miles of OHS.

No idea about actual consequences from FCPS or FCPD.

Sadly, this type of grievousness won’t really be swept under the carpet. It’ll continue to be whispered about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OHS parent here.

My DC is a freshman. The rumor mill has died down - a bit. Everyone in 9th grade knows the names of the assailants. They are no longer in the “in” crowd at any HS within 5 miles of OHS.

No idea about actual consequences from FCPS or FCPD.

Sadly, this type of grievousness won’t really be swept under the carpet. It’ll continue to be whispered about.

Thanks. I think we are all curious--and that does not entitle us to know the details. There are laws and rules to protect juveniles. In this instance, I doubt these kids will do this again, but they certainly deserve to be punished.

In a way, it would be better, if they did publicly announce the punishment. But, that is likely illegal. So, everyone speculates.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OHS parent here.

My DC is a freshman. The rumor mill has died down - a bit. Everyone in 9th grade knows the names of the assailants. They are no longer in the “in” crowd at any HS within 5 miles of OHS.

No idea about actual consequences from FCPS or FCPD.

Sadly, this type of grievousness won’t really be swept under the carpet. It’ll continue to be whispered about.

Thanks. I think we are all curious--and that does not entitle us to know the details. There are laws and rules to protect juveniles. In this instance, I doubt these kids will do this again, but they certainly deserve to be punished.

In a way, it would be better, if they did publicly announce the punishment. But, that is likely illegal. So, everyone speculates.

It’s not idle, nosey curiosity. A crime was committed for which state guidelines recommend expulsion or something close to it. Parents in the school district want to know if anything was done to prevent it from happening again or if their kids are next.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OHS parent here.

My DC is a freshman. The rumor mill has died down - a bit. Everyone in 9th grade knows the names of the assailants. They are no longer in the “in” crowd at any HS within 5 miles of OHS.

No idea about actual consequences from FCPS or FCPD.

Sadly, this type of grievousness won’t really be swept under the carpet. It’ll continue to be whispered about.

Thanks. I think we are all curious--and that does not entitle us to know the details. There are laws and rules to protect juveniles. In this instance, I doubt these kids will do this again, but they certainly deserve to be punished.

In a way, it would be better, if they did publicly announce the punishment. But, that is likely illegal. So, everyone speculates.

It’s not idle, nosey curiosity. A crime was committed for which state guidelines recommend expulsion or something close to it. Parents in the school district want to know if anything was done to prevent it from happening again or if their kids are next.

+1

Bully parents raise bully kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree. Instead of attacking the perpetrators they would be more effective if they attacked FCPS for the incorrect punishment and demand more just punishment. A large outcry among the public would sway things and would achieve their long term objective.

Does anyone know for sure what the punishment is? Is there also police involvement?

DP. Because the attackers are juveniles, we aren't going to hear much, if anything, about how this gets handled. No school system will ever discuss publicly how a student was disciplined; a school MIGHT issue a generic "appropriate actions were taken" statement in a very public case like this one, but it won't give details. I wish that FCPS would at least issue a statement saying whether the students are (for example) "no longer at Oakton HS and not at any other FCPS HS" or whatever. There are rumors now that some attackers might have been transferred to other high schools -- regular high schools, not the "alternative" schools used for students with disciplinary issues. FCPS isn't going to come out and say where they are but if they're in regular high schools, parents in those schools should get reassurance from their principals that these students are being closely monitored. Again, IF they're in regular local schools. We don't know and should be careful not to let rumors grow. I just wish FCPS would say something even if it's generic.

Blah blah blah. You know FCPS isn’t going to issue any such statement.

This thread should have been locked by now. If this incident had happened at Wilson HS, it would have been locked after a week (or two at most).

Why so eager to see this thread shut? Discussion bothers you? You might have missed that I'm talking about how to quash rumors, not how to keep them going. I didn't say FCPS would issue anything. I pointed out that they don't discuss discipline. I just know that if one of these attackers were at my kid's HS the rumor mill would go nuts and it would be beneficial for someone in authority at the receiving school to recognize its better to get out ahead of tumors than let them fester. No specifics needed but FCPS can talk generally about what it's doing to prevent a repeat of that kind of incident and how it places students who have been involved in physical altercations.

You seem invested in wanting this all to go away. Parents at Oakton and all FCPS high schools should want to know how this kind of thing is, or is not, handled.

You sure do love the sound of your own voice, don’t you?

DP here. That was a really, really, really inappropriate response. Other parents must question you, your child, your motives, often - because you seem to be inappropriately defensive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d like the original video shared with the OHS community. It’s important that my kids know who the perps in their school are!

Weird that only the PTA sees the unfiltered version.

PTA should hold a community meeting about this! With Scott, Jamie, Doug, SRO, chief of police, DA. Why the heck not?! This was felony assault at our high school!

A large percentage of the student body know the peeps. Oakton freshman son rattled off 3 names. THEY are now being harassed on Snapchat.

Addendum - good if the perps are being harassed on Snapchat, not the kids who outed them

So you encourage online harassment if the target is an alleged perp.

Great way to teach kids that harassment is permissible. Excellent example you're setting there--be judge and jury, and rain down your abuse online. They deserve it, right?

Except next time a kid isn't as clearly and criminally attacked, but just gets into a beef with other kids, those kids are going to remember that adults supported online harassment this time, and they'll have at it again. And again.

The kids who perpetrated the Oakton attack deserve to be prosecuted. I'm not defending them. I'd want them to disappear from my kid's HS and end up in jail. But instead of teaching other students to report through the right channels and push for legit consequences, you're applauding online personal harassment. That lesson won't end with this one genuinely horrible, clearly documented incident. Parents who urge online harassment now, because the Oakton attackers "deserve it," may end up finding their kids are doing it in other circumstances when this incident is over. Because the adults said it was OK this time. And going back to say later, oh, I only meant it was good in THAT case, but you shouldn't do it otherwise....Well, teens are great at spotting hypocritical adults.

Please don't encourage online harassment even of people who deserve it. It cheapens and degrades the kids doing the harassing. Better to treat the perps as if they have vanished and give them zero attention.

So many feels here. Reality: They took a weapon and picked on a kid smaller then them. Consequence: Other kids are harassing and hating on them. Sounds right to me.

+1

The bullies are probably trying to claim "self defense". Give me a break.

[Anonymous]

There is physical bullying and there is online bullying. Ironically, an act of physical bullying by minors, which called for both punishment for the assailants and acknowledgment of their age, has now been followed by online bullying by sanctimonious adults who ought to know better. It’s neither a good look nor a mature response - just a bunch of Karens at their worst (along with a few Chads whose posts usually get deleted because they’ve incited physical violence against the assailants).