Student attacked with taser in Oakton HS locker room

[Anonymous]

Thank you (attorney?) PP for that clear statement on restorative justice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This makes me think that FCPS really needs to get a grip on violent behavior on school grounds. If we don’t as a county reign in this BS behavior, these kinds of acts will become more common place.

Not comparing FCPS to NYC schools, but it is a slippery slope.


https://nypost.com/2020/01/17/new-video-show-extent-of-queens-middle-school-beatdown/

OMG, fighting in school is MUCH less prevalent than it used to be. And Fairfax? Give me a break, its yuppie town.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oakton freshman parent here. Some of you are completely nuts. Yes, it was a horrible. Yes, I would be furious if this happened or DS participated in this assault. Jesus, the school has 2800 students. Unfortunately horrible instances like this can and do occur. Bullying sucks, but my God, "sue them" and "imprison the perpetrators"..."fire the administration"..."I'm moving". You guys are infants. Get out of your Pilate classes and dinners at "the club". Welcome to the real world.

So if your kid is walking down the street and a group of teens from another school attacks him with a taser and filmed it, you wouldn't call the police? You'd just suck it up, that's life? Ok then.

No. I would call the police.

Presumably to put the perpetrators in jail.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So the irony here is that my 4th grader with Aspergers and PTSD just got a longer suspension than these kids for pushing a teacher out of his way so he could run away during a lockdown drill. He has an IEP and is supposed to be able to go to his “safe place” when he is having a panic attack. But in this case since they were practicing hiding from active shooters he wasn’t allowed.

Wow, just wow.

How long was he suspended for? That's insane. They are supposed to consider whether the behaviors were related to his disability.

Also, how many times has something like this happened? Was the teacher injured?

PP here- this was the first time this has happened. Nobody was injured, and they don’t cancel the suspension even if it is the result of a disability, we just have to have another meeting to review if this school is the right placement.

It was embarrassing for the school because on his way to his safe place he ran right past the gaggle of SROs and the school superintendant. I know because I was standing outside the glass doors waiting as I was there for lunch when the surprise lockdown drill happened.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d like the original video shared with the OHS community. It’s important that my kids know who the perps in their school are!

Weird that only the PTA sees the unfiltered version.

PTA should hold a community meeting about this! With Scott, Jamie, Doug, SRO, chief of police, DA. Why the heck not?! This was felony assault at our high school!

A large percentage of the student body know the peeps. Oakton freshman son rattled off 3 names. THEY are now being harassed on Snapchat.

GOOD!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d like the original video shared with the OHS community. It’s important that my kids know who the perps in their school are!

Weird that only the PTA sees the unfiltered version.

PTA should hold a community meeting about this! With Scott, Jamie, Doug, SRO, chief of police, DA. Why the heck not?! This was felony assault at our high school!

A large percentage of the student body know the peeps. Oakton freshman son rattled off 3 names. THEY are now being harassed on Snapchat.

Addendum - good if the perps are being harassed on Snapchat, not the kids who outed them

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:any lawyers out there who can educate a non lawyer about whether civil suits could be pursued against the alleged perpetrators and their parents?

What do you hope to fix by doing this? It's a horrible event and the kids need to be punished. Period.

Well, we have a family like us who’s parents for years ignored their underage kids’ partying in their home, even provided the entertainment (i.e. booze, etc). They are very wealthy. Had someone called the police much earlier, their early 20s kid might not have died with a needle in his arm, and his siblings might not have to live with that trauma.

Lots of parents in our community knew - so many didn’t say a word because they ‘didn’t want to upset their own children’.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d like the original video shared with the OHS community. It’s important that my kids know who the perps in their school are!

Weird that only the PTA sees the unfiltered version.

PTA should hold a community meeting about this! With Scott, Jamie, Doug, SRO, chief of police, DA. Why the heck not?! This was felony assault at our high school!

A large percentage of the student body know the peeps. Oakton freshman son rattled off 3 names. THEY are now being harassed on Snapchat.

Addendum - good if the perps are being harassed on Snapchat, not the kids who outed them

So you encourage online harassment if the target is an alleged perp.

Great way to teach kids that harassment is permissible. Excellent example you're setting there--be judge and jury, and rain down your abuse online. They deserve it, right?

Except next time a kid isn't as clearly and criminally attacked, but just gets into a beef with other kids, those kids are going to remember that adults supported online harassment this time, and they'll have at it again. And again.

The kids who perpetrated the Oakton attack deserve to be prosecuted. I'm not defending them. I'd want them to disappear from my kid's HS and end up in jail. But instead of teaching other students to report through the right channels and push for legit consequences, you're applauding online personal harassment. That lesson won't end with this one genuinely horrible, clearly documented incident. Parents who urge online harassment now, because the Oakton attackers "deserve it," may end up finding their kids are doing it in other circumstances when this incident is over. Because the adults said it was OK this time. And going back to say later, oh, I only meant it was good in THAT case, but you shouldn't do it otherwise....Well, teens are great at spotting hypocritical adults.

Please don't encourage online harassment even of people who deserve it. It cheapens and degrades the kids doing the harassing. Better to treat the perps as if they have vanished and give them zero attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d like the original video shared with the OHS community. It’s important that my kids know who the perps in their school are!

Weird that only the PTA sees the unfiltered version.

PTA should hold a community meeting about this! With Scott, Jamie, Doug, SRO, chief of police, DA. Why the heck not?! This was felony assault at our high school!

A large percentage of the student body know the peeps. Oakton freshman son rattled off 3 names. THEY are now being harassed on Snapchat.

Addendum - good if the perps are being harassed on Snapchat, not the kids who outed them

So you encourage online harassment if the target is an alleged perp.

Great way to teach kids that harassment is permissible. Excellent example you're setting there--be judge and jury, and rain down your abuse online. They deserve it, right?

Except next time a kid isn't as clearly and criminally attacked, but just gets into a beef with other kids, those kids are going to remember that adults supported online harassment this time, and they'll have at it again. And again.

The kids who perpetrated the Oakton attack deserve to be prosecuted. I'm not defending them. I'd want them to disappear from my kid's HS and end up in jail. But instead of teaching other students to report through the right channels and push for legit consequences, you're applauding online personal harassment. That lesson won't end with this one genuinely horrible, clearly documented incident. Parents who urge online harassment now, because the Oakton attackers "deserve it," may end up finding their kids are doing it in other circumstances when this incident is over. Because the adults said it was OK this time. And going back to say later, oh, I only meant it was good in THAT case, but you shouldn't do it otherwise....Well, teens are great at spotting hypocritical adults.

Please don't encourage online harassment even of people who deserve it. It cheapens and degrades the kids doing the harassing. Better to treat the perps as if they have vanished and give them zero attention.

+1 Great response.

[Anonymous]

At least the parents of VA kids seem a bit more concerned, if this was DC we would get the whole "just boys being boys" nonsense.v

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the irony here is that my 4th grader with Aspergers and PTSD just got a longer suspension than these kids for pushing a teacher out of his way so he could run away during a lockdown drill. He has an IEP and is supposed to be able to go to his “safe place” when he is having a panic attack. But in this case since they were practicing hiding from active shooters he wasn’t allowed.

Wow, just wow.

How long was he suspended for? That's insane. They are supposed to consider whether the behaviors were related to his disability.

Also, how many times has something like this happened? Was the teacher injured?

What? Step off person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d like the original video shared with the OHS community. It’s important that my kids know who the perps in their school are!

Weird that only the PTA sees the unfiltered version.

PTA should hold a community meeting about this! With Scott, Jamie, Doug, SRO, chief of police, DA. Why the heck not?! This was felony assault at our high school!

A large percentage of the student body know the peeps. Oakton freshman son rattled off 3 names. THEY are now being harassed on Snapchat.

Addendum - good if the perps are being harassed on Snapchat, not the kids who outed them

So you encourage online harassment if the target is an alleged perp.

Great way to teach kids that harassment is permissible. Excellent example you're setting there--be judge and jury, and rain down your abuse online. They deserve it, right?

Except next time a kid isn't as clearly and criminally attacked, but just gets into a beef with other kids, those kids are going to remember that adults supported online harassment this time, and they'll have at it again. And again.

The kids who perpetrated the Oakton attack deserve to be prosecuted. I'm not defending them. I'd want them to disappear from my kid's HS and end up in jail. But instead of teaching other students to report through the right channels and push for legit consequences, you're applauding online personal harassment. That lesson won't end with this one genuinely horrible, clearly documented incident. Parents who urge online harassment now, because the Oakton attackers "deserve it," may end up finding their kids are doing it in other circumstances when this incident is over. Because the adults said it was OK this time. And going back to say later, oh, I only meant it was good in THAT case, but you shouldn't do it otherwise....Well, teens are great at spotting hypocritical adults.

Please don't encourage online harassment even of people who deserve it. It cheapens and degrades the kids doing the harassing. Better to treat the perps as if they have vanished and give them zero attention.

+1 Great response.

+2 trust the process and teach kids to do the same.

[Anonymous]

Where did the kids involved land?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where did the kids involved land?

Probably very little consequence. Money talks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where did the kids involved land?

Probably very little consequence. Money talks.

I thought at least one was being sent to another school.... so which school(s) did they land in?