CES Decision Letters
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Anonymous
My DS was accepted at Clearspring. MCPS 96, and National 99. |
Anonymous
I wouldn’t take anything away from these scores. My kid scored 69th MCPS/94th National (rejected) yet has an IQ that is 99th percentile and 99th MAP. MCPS uses an abbreviated version of the CoGAT which is a subset of only three of tests. There are very few seats available in CES. IMHO, no need to worry or to put your kid in Kumon. Let them play. |
Anonymous
| What about Mill Creek Towne? |
Anonymous
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Zip MCPS National CES Status
20814 86 98 Chevy Chase Accepted 98 99 Oakview Accepted 20815 95 99 Accepted 20874 91 95 Accepted 95 95 Oakview Accepted 98 99 Chevy Chase Accepted 20850 94 99 Cold Spring Accepted 20871 96 99 Accepted 20912 96 99 Piney Branch Accepted 20912 98 99 Piney Branch Accepted 20854 96 99 Cold Spring Accepted 97 99 Pinecrest Accepted 99 99 Cold Spring Accepted 96 99 Chevy Chase Accepted 20854 98 99 Cold Spring WL 87 98 WL 94 98 Barnsley Accepted 20850 94 99 Cold Spring Accepted 70 88 WL 56 89 WL 92 99 Cold Spring Rejected 93 99 Chevy Chase Rejected 76 96 Chevy Chase Rejected 37 81 Rejected 80 97 Rejected 87 97 Piney Branch Rejected 50 88 Chevy Chase Rejected 70 88 Fox Chapel Rejected 98 99 Accepted 64 92 Chevy Chase Rejected 80 97 Accepted 80 97 Barnsley Rejected |
Anonymous
Hahaha. Probably |
Anonymous
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Quick takeaways that I can gather:
- nearly all accepted students are at 99% national - MCPS % is more variable than national, however nearly - if not - all accepted students are over 90% MCPS - based on the national %, it is clear that all accepted students were "qualified", so to speak - more interesting are the students not accepted, while some are obvious, e.g. below 95% national, there are a number of high performers that did not get in - the system that has been set up seems to provide MCPS with options for choosing between "qualified" students, however it is obviously very opaque - students with the biggest differential between national and MCPS % seem to be in the Chevy Chase CES boundary. |
Anonymous
| The opaque part could be explained by MaP scores and grades |
Anonymous
I did not know what you were talking about, so a few seconds of googling later and I really cannot believe was I was seeing. 3 hours per day as a K-8 aftercare type program? That's crazy. |
Anonymous
Probably. It is funny to me to see people get so bent out of shape about this when it seems pretty clear that the most deterministic factor in who gets accepted is clearly the national percentile on the Cogat. How they pick between the 99%? No one really knows, but I think an easy solution is to just encourage MCPS to expand this program to all national 99% students. The reality is that it is probably only a few hundred across the entire district. |
Anonymous
I mean that there are probably at the most 100 or so 99% kids national that don't get in. The downside is probably that a burgeoning industry of 3rd grade test prep will emerge, which will then lead to claims of "opportunity hording" or whatever. |
Anonymous
FWIW it illustrates how preparation impacts to achievement. |
Anonymous
You realize that this is massively incomplete data from likely a non-representative group? |
Anonymous
And yet, greater impacts due to SES status are brushed aside as nothing, just the natural order of things. |
Anonymous
I guess I should've been more clear because that's not at all what I wanted to convey. |
Anonymous
Kind of early to draw any conclusions from a sample like this. |