Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:Thought this was a pretty fair and even assessment of the whole conflict with Baldoni:

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/it-ends-with-us-crew-members-talk-feud-blake-lively-justin-baldoni-1235089972/

In the end I wind up feeling for Baldoni. He might have been a somewhat green director on this production but it sounds like he was professional and kind and that people liked working with him. I also feel like the accusations Blake's people have leaked about Baldoni -- the kiss that "lingered" and him talking to his trainer about lifting her -- feel extremely manufactured to try and get people to dislike him. There's just not much too them.

The two filmed multiple intimate scenes and were playing people who are supposed to have intense physical intimacy -- the set had an intimacy coordinator and there are zero accusations that Baldoni crossed any lines. Even if he did "linger" during one of their scenes it would honestly be hard to say whether that was him violating a boundary or simply staying in character for a second or two. Acting is weird and filming love scenes is especially weird. It feels like she's trying to make something out of nothing.

The "fat shaming" accusation is even dumber -- Lively is not and has never been fat but she's also 5'10". It's not weird for a guy only slightly taller who has a bad back to want to make sure a lift that is written into the script goes well. I don't think Nicole Kidman or Cate Blanchett are fat either and I bet a lot of actors would quietly want to make sure they didn't embarrass themselves lifting a much taller-than-average costar in a scene.

Lively just comes off as temperamental and difficult and making it hard for everyone -- not just Baldoni but also costumers and set designers and editors and others working on the film -- to do their jobs.

The only think I can't square is how the cast and Hoover and everyone has just aligned with Lively. I guess they know where the power is -- Baldoni is a no one in comparison. I wonder what this does to his career. Hollywood is so small.

I couldn’t access the full article, but is this the one that also said that Blake was really involved in the movie until she started noticing some really criticisms online of her age and the characters fashion and she basically just lost interest and made it clear she wasn’t really happy to be there. Because that totally aligns with her starting a million different businesses, doing a big launch, then getting bored and not seeing it through.

Blake strikes me as someone who hasn’t had to push hard for many things in life. She wanted a career in Hollywood which is like a one in a million shot and luckily, she happened to be born to an actor/casting director family. She hasn’t maybe had those tough character building things many of us get to by late 30s. Maybe this is a good lesson.

They weren't super explicit about it but yeah -- she was initially really invested in the movie and then they paused shooting during the strike and when they came back she didn't seem to want to be there at all. I am not sure people know for sure it was because of the criticism of her character's costumes that circulated online (the initial photos from the set WERE insane in terms of how she was dressed and how her hair looked) but that was defintiely the speculation.

I doubt she will take a positive lesson from this. I think she will feel like a martyr and decide that people are just being unfair or sexist or whatever. And she'll talk about it like it was a huge trauma and trial but in reality she'll experience no ill effects and go back to life as normal.

I do think she'll hold grudges about who was on her side and who wasn't forever though. And that's why the cast has aligned with her and people are afraid to say anything negative about her on the record (but will leak negative things about her anonymously).

She should just reissue the movie “Blake’s Version” and CGI different outfits in. She could release lots of different variants with the footage only Baldoni shot, BLake’s version with the “right clothes,” etc. As long as there is a variant with a musical with Taylor Swift in it, she can be a mean martyr all she wants, sing and talk about her grudges and people will eat it up.

The behavior is the same, just Blake is the actress version of Taylor Swift.

I don’t know Taylor personally, obviously, but the comparisons are really weak. Love her or hate her, Taylor is incredibly talented and prolific. You really can’t say that about Blake. feel like she waltzed into an acting career because of nepotism and lucked into a lot of what she has. Let’s be honest, if she married penn badgley or the equivalent of another actor on not on the same success level of Ryan Reynolds, would we even be talking about her?

We disagree. I think Taylor is a nepo-baby too. Her greatest talent is marketing just like mom and dad.
Same girl different genre.

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Did her movie do well? Seems like the marketing is over and I know I am not hearing about it anywhere.

The book author has a huge following so that probably does a lot of heavy lifting.

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Anonymous wrote:Thought this was a pretty fair and even assessment of the whole conflict with Baldoni:

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/it-ends-with-us-crew-members-talk-feud-blake-lively-justin-baldoni-1235089972/

In the end I wind up feeling for Baldoni. He might have been a somewhat green director on this production but it sounds like he was professional and kind and that people liked working with him. I also feel like the accusations Blake's people have leaked about Baldoni -- the kiss that "lingered" and him talking to his trainer about lifting her -- feel extremely manufactured to try and get people to dislike him. There's just not much too them.

The two filmed multiple intimate scenes and were playing people who are supposed to have intense physical intimacy -- the set had an intimacy coordinator and there are zero accusations that Baldoni crossed any lines. Even if he did "linger" during one of their scenes it would honestly be hard to say whether that was him violating a boundary or simply staying in character for a second or two. Acting is weird and filming love scenes is especially weird. It feels like she's trying to make something out of nothing.

The "fat shaming" accusation is even dumber -- Lively is not and has never been fat but she's also 5'10". It's not weird for a guy only slightly taller who has a bad back to want to make sure a lift that is written into the script goes well. I don't think Nicole Kidman or Cate Blanchett are fat either and I bet a lot of actors would quietly want to make sure they didn't embarrass themselves lifting a much taller-than-average costar in a scene.

Lively just comes off as temperamental and difficult and making it hard for everyone -- not just Baldoni but also costumers and set designers and editors and others working on the film -- to do their jobs.

The only think I can't square is how the cast and Hoover and everyone has just aligned with Lively. I guess they know where the power is -- Baldoni is a no one in comparison. I wonder what this does to his career. Hollywood is so small.

I couldn’t access the full article, but is this the one that also said that Blake was really involved in the movie until she started noticing some really criticisms online of her age and the characters fashion and she basically just lost interest and made it clear she wasn’t really happy to be there. Because that totally aligns with her starting a million different businesses, doing a big launch, then getting bored and not seeing it through.

Blake strikes me as someone who hasn’t had to push hard for many things in life. She wanted a career in Hollywood which is like a one in a million shot and luckily, she happened to be born to an actor/casting director family. She hasn’t maybe had those tough character building things many of us get to by late 30s. Maybe this is a good lesson.

They weren't super explicit about it but yeah -- she was initially really invested in the movie and then they paused shooting during the strike and when they came back she didn't seem to want to be there at all. I am not sure people know for sure it was because of the criticism of her character's costumes that circulated online (the initial photos from the set WERE insane in terms of how she was dressed and how her hair looked) but that was defintiely the speculation.

I doubt she will take a positive lesson from this. I think she will feel like a martyr and decide that people are just being unfair or sexist or whatever. And she'll talk about it like it was a huge trauma and trial but in reality she'll experience no ill effects and go back to life as normal.

I do think she'll hold grudges about who was on her side and who wasn't forever though. And that's why the cast has aligned with her and people are afraid to say anything negative about her on the record (but will leak negative things about her anonymously).

She should just reissue the movie “Blake’s Version” and CGI different outfits in. She could release lots of different variants with the footage only Baldoni shot, BLake’s version with the “right clothes,” etc. As long as there is a variant with a musical with Taylor Swift in it, she can be a mean martyr all she wants, sing and talk about her grudges and people will eat it up.

The behavior is the same, just Blake is the actress version of Taylor Swift.

I don’t know Taylor personally, obviously, but the comparisons are really weak. Love her or hate her, Taylor is incredibly talented and prolific. You really can’t say that about Blake. feel like she waltzed into an acting career because of nepotism and lucked into a lot of what she has. Let’s be honest, if she married penn badgley or the equivalent of another actor on not on the same success level of Ryan Reynolds, would we even be talking about her?

We disagree. I think Taylor is a nepo-baby too. Her greatest talent is marketing just like mom and dad.
Same girl different genre.

Her parents helped but they were not already in show business.

Therefore, she is not a nepo baby.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thought this was a pretty fair and even assessment of the whole conflict with Baldoni:

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/it-ends-with-us-crew-members-talk-feud-blake-lively-justin-baldoni-1235089972/

In the end I wind up feeling for Baldoni. He might have been a somewhat green director on this production but it sounds like he was professional and kind and that people liked working with him. I also feel like the accusations Blake's people have leaked about Baldoni -- the kiss that "lingered" and him talking to his trainer about lifting her -- feel extremely manufactured to try and get people to dislike him. There's just not much too them.

The two filmed multiple intimate scenes and were playing people who are supposed to have intense physical intimacy -- the set had an intimacy coordinator and there are zero accusations that Baldoni crossed any lines. Even if he did "linger" during one of their scenes it would honestly be hard to say whether that was him violating a boundary or simply staying in character for a second or two. Acting is weird and filming love scenes is especially weird. It feels like she's trying to make something out of nothing.

The "fat shaming" accusation is even dumber -- Lively is not and has never been fat but she's also 5'10". It's not weird for a guy only slightly taller who has a bad back to want to make sure a lift that is written into the script goes well. I don't think Nicole Kidman or Cate Blanchett are fat either and I bet a lot of actors would quietly want to make sure they didn't embarrass themselves lifting a much taller-than-average costar in a scene.

Lively just comes off as temperamental and difficult and making it hard for everyone -- not just Baldoni but also costumers and set designers and editors and others working on the film -- to do their jobs.

The only think I can't square is how the cast and Hoover and everyone has just aligned with Lively. I guess they know where the power is -- Baldoni is a no one in comparison. I wonder what this does to his career. Hollywood is so small.

I couldn’t access the full article, but is this the one that also said that Blake was really involved in the movie until she started noticing some really criticisms online of her age and the characters fashion and she basically just lost interest and made it clear she wasn’t really happy to be there. Because that totally aligns with her starting a million different businesses, doing a big launch, then getting bored and not seeing it through.

Blake strikes me as someone who hasn’t had to push hard for many things in life. She wanted a career in Hollywood which is like a one in a million shot and luckily, she happened to be born to an actor/casting director family. She hasn’t maybe had those tough character building things many of us get to by late 30s. Maybe this is a good lesson.

They weren't super explicit about it but yeah -- she was initially really invested in the movie and then they paused shooting during the strike and when they came back she didn't seem to want to be there at all. I am not sure people know for sure it was because of the criticism of her character's costumes that circulated online (the initial photos from the set WERE insane in terms of how she was dressed and how her hair looked) but that was defintiely the speculation.

I doubt she will take a positive lesson from this. I think she will feel like a martyr and decide that people are just being unfair or sexist or whatever. And she'll talk about it like it was a huge trauma and trial but in reality she'll experience no ill effects and go back to life as normal.

I do think she'll hold grudges about who was on her side and who wasn't forever though. And that's why the cast has aligned with her and people are afraid to say anything negative about her on the record (but will leak negative things about her anonymously).

She should just reissue the movie “Blake’s Version” and CGI different outfits in. She could release lots of different variants with the footage only Baldoni shot, BLake’s version with the “right clothes,” etc. As long as there is a variant with a musical with Taylor Swift in it, she can be a mean martyr all she wants, sing and talk about her grudges and people will eat it up.

The behavior is the same, just Blake is the actress version of Taylor Swift.

I don’t know Taylor personally, obviously, but the comparisons are really weak. Love her or hate her, Taylor is incredibly talented and prolific. You really can’t say that about Blake. feel like she waltzed into an acting career because of nepotism and lucked into a lot of what she has. Let’s be honest, if she married penn badgley or the equivalent of another actor on not on the same success level of Ryan Reynolds, would we even be talking about her?

We disagree. I think Taylor is a nepo-baby too. Her greatest talent is marketing just like mom and dad.
Same girl different genre.

Her parents helped but they were not already in show business.

Therefore, she is not a nepo baby.

Yes. Taylor is not from a Showbiz family. Blake was born into one.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thought this was a pretty fair and even assessment of the whole conflict with Baldoni:

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/it-ends-with-us-crew-members-talk-feud-blake-lively-justin-baldoni-1235089972/

In the end I wind up feeling for Baldoni. He might have been a somewhat green director on this production but it sounds like he was professional and kind and that people liked working with him. I also feel like the accusations Blake's people have leaked about Baldoni -- the kiss that "lingered" and him talking to his trainer about lifting her -- feel extremely manufactured to try and get people to dislike him. There's just not much too them.

The two filmed multiple intimate scenes and were playing people who are supposed to have intense physical intimacy -- the set had an intimacy coordinator and there are zero accusations that Baldoni crossed any lines. Even if he did "linger" during one of their scenes it would honestly be hard to say whether that was him violating a boundary or simply staying in character for a second or two. Acting is weird and filming love scenes is especially weird. It feels like she's trying to make something out of nothing.

The "fat shaming" accusation is even dumber -- Lively is not and has never been fat but she's also 5'10". It's not weird for a guy only slightly taller who has a bad back to want to make sure a lift that is written into the script goes well. I don't think Nicole Kidman or Cate Blanchett are fat either and I bet a lot of actors would quietly want to make sure they didn't embarrass themselves lifting a much taller-than-average costar in a scene.

Lively just comes off as temperamental and difficult and making it hard for everyone -- not just Baldoni but also costumers and set designers and editors and others working on the film -- to do their jobs.

The only think I can't square is how the cast and Hoover and everyone has just aligned with Lively. I guess they know where the power is -- Baldoni is a no one in comparison. I wonder what this does to his career. Hollywood is so small.

I couldn’t access the full article, but is this the one that also said that Blake was really involved in the movie until she started noticing some really criticisms online of her age and the characters fashion and she basically just lost interest and made it clear she wasn’t really happy to be there. Because that totally aligns with her starting a million different businesses, doing a big launch, then getting bored and not seeing it through.

Blake strikes me as someone who hasn’t had to push hard for many things in life. She wanted a career in Hollywood which is like a one in a million shot and luckily, she happened to be born to an actor/casting director family. She hasn’t maybe had those tough character building things many of us get to by late 30s. Maybe this is a good lesson.

They weren't super explicit about it but yeah -- she was initially really invested in the movie and then they paused shooting during the strike and when they came back she didn't seem to want to be there at all. I am not sure people know for sure it was because of the criticism of her character's costumes that circulated online (the initial photos from the set WERE insane in terms of how she was dressed and how her hair looked) but that was defintiely the speculation.

I doubt she will take a positive lesson from this. I think she will feel like a martyr and decide that people are just being unfair or sexist or whatever. And she'll talk about it like it was a huge trauma and trial but in reality she'll experience no ill effects and go back to life as normal.

I do think she'll hold grudges about who was on her side and who wasn't forever though. And that's why the cast has aligned with her and people are afraid to say anything negative about her on the record (but will leak negative things about her anonymously).

She should just reissue the movie “Blake’s Version” and CGI different outfits in. She could release lots of different variants with the footage only Baldoni shot, BLake’s version with the “right clothes,” etc. As long as there is a variant with a musical with Taylor Swift in it, she can be a mean martyr all she wants, sing and talk about her grudges and people will eat it up.

The behavior is the same, just Blake is the actress version of Taylor Swift.

I don’t know Taylor personally, obviously, but the comparisons are really weak. Love her or hate her, Taylor is incredibly talented and prolific. You really can’t say that about Blake. feel like she waltzed into an acting career because of nepotism and lucked into a lot of what she has. Let’s be honest, if she married penn badgley or the equivalent of another actor on not on the same success level of Ryan Reynolds, would we even be talking about her?

We disagree. I think Taylor is a nepo-baby too. Her greatest talent is marketing just like mom and dad.
Same girl different genre.

Her parents helped but they were not already in show business.

Therefore, she is not a nepo baby.

Oh I guess I didn’t understand the term. Paris Hilton of the Hilton hotels is to me a nepo baby because money.
Ivanka trump is too

I figured anyone who makes it big because their parents had money was a nepo baby. Taylor and Blake are double because they made it bacause their parents had money AND they used the fam business for fame (in Blake’s case it was acting and in Taylor’s it was marketing and her dads Desiree for her to be famous)

Clearly I’m missing something.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thought this was a pretty fair and even assessment of the whole conflict with Baldoni:

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/it-ends-with-us-crew-members-talk-feud-blake-lively-justin-baldoni-1235089972/

In the end I wind up feeling for Baldoni. He might have been a somewhat green director on this production but it sounds like he was professional and kind and that people liked working with him. I also feel like the accusations Blake's people have leaked about Baldoni -- the kiss that "lingered" and him talking to his trainer about lifting her -- feel extremely manufactured to try and get people to dislike him. There's just not much too them.

The two filmed multiple intimate scenes and were playing people who are supposed to have intense physical intimacy -- the set had an intimacy coordinator and there are zero accusations that Baldoni crossed any lines. Even if he did "linger" during one of their scenes it would honestly be hard to say whether that was him violating a boundary or simply staying in character for a second or two. Acting is weird and filming love scenes is especially weird. It feels like she's trying to make something out of nothing.

The "fat shaming" accusation is even dumber -- Lively is not and has never been fat but she's also 5'10". It's not weird for a guy only slightly taller who has a bad back to want to make sure a lift that is written into the script goes well. I don't think Nicole Kidman or Cate Blanchett are fat either and I bet a lot of actors would quietly want to make sure they didn't embarrass themselves lifting a much taller-than-average costar in a scene.

Lively just comes off as temperamental and difficult and making it hard for everyone -- not just Baldoni but also costumers and set designers and editors and others working on the film -- to do their jobs.

The only think I can't square is how the cast and Hoover and everyone has just aligned with Lively. I guess they know where the power is -- Baldoni is a no one in comparison. I wonder what this does to his career. Hollywood is so small.

I couldn’t access the full article, but is this the one that also said that Blake was really involved in the movie until she started noticing some really criticisms online of her age and the characters fashion and she basically just lost interest and made it clear she wasn’t really happy to be there. Because that totally aligns with her starting a million different businesses, doing a big launch, then getting bored and not seeing it through.

Blake strikes me as someone who hasn’t had to push hard for many things in life. She wanted a career in Hollywood which is like a one in a million shot and luckily, she happened to be born to an actor/casting director family. She hasn’t maybe had those tough character building things many of us get to by late 30s. Maybe this is a good lesson.

They weren't super explicit about it but yeah -- she was initially really invested in the movie and then they paused shooting during the strike and when they came back she didn't seem to want to be there at all. I am not sure people know for sure it was because of the criticism of her character's costumes that circulated online (the initial photos from the set WERE insane in terms of how she was dressed and how her hair looked) but that was defintiely the speculation.

I doubt she will take a positive lesson from this. I think she will feel like a martyr and decide that people are just being unfair or sexist or whatever. And she'll talk about it like it was a huge trauma and trial but in reality she'll experience no ill effects and go back to life as normal.

I do think she'll hold grudges about who was on her side and who wasn't forever though. And that's why the cast has aligned with her and people are afraid to say anything negative about her on the record (but will leak negative things about her anonymously).

She should just reissue the movie “Blake’s Version” and CGI different outfits in. She could release lots of different variants with the footage only Baldoni shot, BLake’s version with the “right clothes,” etc. As long as there is a variant with a musical with Taylor Swift in it, she can be a mean martyr all she wants, sing and talk about her grudges and people will eat it up.

The behavior is the same, just Blake is the actress version of Taylor Swift.

I don’t know Taylor personally, obviously, but the comparisons are really weak. Love her or hate her, Taylor is incredibly talented and prolific. You really can’t say that about Blake. feel like she waltzed into an acting career because of nepotism and lucked into a lot of what she has. Let’s be honest, if she married penn badgley or the equivalent of another actor on not on the same success level of Ryan Reynolds, would we even be talking about her?

We disagree. I think Taylor is a nepo-baby too. Her greatest talent is marketing just like mom and dad.
Same girl different genre.

Her parents helped but they were not already in show business.

Therefore, she is not a nepo baby.

Oh I guess I didn’t understand the term. Paris Hilton of the Hilton hotels is to me a nepo baby because money.
Ivanka trump is too

I figured anyone who makes it big because their parents had money was a nepo baby. Taylor and Blake are double because they made it bacause their parents had money AND they used the fam business for fame (in Blake’s case it was acting and in Taylor’s it was marketing and her dads Desiree for her to be famous)

Clearly I’m missing something.

Taylor was fortunate to be from a wealthy family, but her parents had to learn the show biz ropes. They were not established in show biz.

Britney would also not be a nepo baby.

Tim Chalomet is a nepo baby as is Drew Barrymore because they had family in the business, and that knowledge helped them rise.

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She is a Nepo baby AND a Harvey Weinstein girl

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Anonymous wrote:Thought this was a pretty fair and even assessment of the whole conflict with Baldoni:

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/it-ends-with-us-crew-members-talk-feud-blake-lively-justin-baldoni-1235089972/

In the end I wind up feeling for Baldoni. He might have been a somewhat green director on this production but it sounds like he was professional and kind and that people liked working with him. I also feel like the accusations Blake's people have leaked about Baldoni -- the kiss that "lingered" and him talking to his trainer about lifting her -- feel extremely manufactured to try and get people to dislike him. There's just not much too them.

The two filmed multiple intimate scenes and were playing people who are supposed to have intense physical intimacy -- the set had an intimacy coordinator and there are zero accusations that Baldoni crossed any lines. Even if he did "linger" during one of their scenes it would honestly be hard to say whether that was him violating a boundary or simply staying in character for a second or two. Acting is weird and filming love scenes is especially weird. It feels like she's trying to make something out of nothing.

The "fat shaming" accusation is even dumber -- Lively is not and has never been fat but she's also 5'10". It's not weird for a guy only slightly taller who has a bad back to want to make sure a lift that is written into the script goes well. I don't think Nicole Kidman or Cate Blanchett are fat either and I bet a lot of actors would quietly want to make sure they didn't embarrass themselves lifting a much taller-than-average costar in a scene.

Lively just comes off as temperamental and difficult and making it hard for everyone -- not just Baldoni but also costumers and set designers and editors and others working on the film -- to do their jobs.

The only think I can't square is how the cast and Hoover and everyone has just aligned with Lively. I guess they know where the power is -- Baldoni is a no one in comparison. I wonder what this does to his career. Hollywood is so small.

I couldn’t access the full article, but is this the one that also said that Blake was really involved in the movie until she started noticing some really criticisms online of her age and the characters fashion and she basically just lost interest and made it clear she wasn’t really happy to be there. Because that totally aligns with her starting a million different businesses, doing a big launch, then getting bored and not seeing it through.

Blake strikes me as someone who hasn’t had to push hard for many things in life. She wanted a career in Hollywood which is like a one in a million shot and luckily, she happened to be born to an actor/casting director family. She hasn’t maybe had those tough character building things many of us get to by late 30s. Maybe this is a good lesson.

They weren't super explicit about it but yeah -- she was initially really invested in the movie and then they paused shooting during the strike and when they came back she didn't seem to want to be there at all. I am not sure people know for sure it was because of the criticism of her character's costumes that circulated online (the initial photos from the set WERE insane in terms of how she was dressed and how her hair looked) but that was defintiely the speculation.

I doubt she will take a positive lesson from this. I think she will feel like a martyr and decide that people are just being unfair or sexist or whatever. And she'll talk about it like it was a huge trauma and trial but in reality she'll experience no ill effects and go back to life as normal.

I do think she'll hold grudges about who was on her side and who wasn't forever though. And that's why the cast has aligned with her and people are afraid to say anything negative about her on the record (but will leak negative things about her anonymously).

She should just reissue the movie “Blake’s Version” and CGI different outfits in. She could release lots of different variants with the footage only Baldoni shot, BLake’s version with the “right clothes,” etc. As long as there is a variant with a musical with Taylor Swift in it, she can be a mean martyr all she wants, sing and talk about her grudges and people will eat it up.

The behavior is the same, just Blake is the actress version of Taylor Swift.

I don’t know Taylor personally, obviously, but the comparisons are really weak. Love her or hate her, Taylor is incredibly talented and prolific. You really can’t say that about Blake. feel like she waltzed into an acting career because of nepotism and lucked into a lot of what she has. Let’s be honest, if she married penn badgley or the equivalent of another actor on not on the same success level of Ryan Reynolds, would we even be talking about her?

We disagree. I think Taylor is a nepo-baby too. Her greatest talent is marketing just like mom and dad.
Same girl different genre.

Her parents helped but they were not already in show business.

Therefore, she is not a nepo baby.

Oh I guess I didn’t understand the term. Paris Hilton of the Hilton hotels is to me a nepo baby because money.
Ivanka trump is too

I figured anyone who makes it big because their parents had money was a nepo baby. Taylor and Blake are double because they made it bacause their parents had money AND they used the fam business for fame (in Blake’s case it was acting and in Taylor’s it was marketing and her dads Desiree for her to be famous)

Clearly I’m missing something.

Yeah just because you didn't grow up dirt poor, doesn't make you a "nepo baby." It's whether your family was in Hollywood/showbiz.

Parks Hilton is a whole other level because she has no accomplishments like making music or movies. She is famous for being rich. She's an heiress / socialite.

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Anonymous wrote:Thought this was a pretty fair and even assessment of the whole conflict with Baldoni:

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/it-ends-with-us-crew-members-talk-feud-blake-lively-justin-baldoni-1235089972/

In the end I wind up feeling for Baldoni. He might have been a somewhat green director on this production but it sounds like he was professional and kind and that people liked working with him. I also feel like the accusations Blake's people have leaked about Baldoni -- the kiss that "lingered" and him talking to his trainer about lifting her -- feel extremely manufactured to try and get people to dislike him. There's just not much too them.

The two filmed multiple intimate scenes and were playing people who are supposed to have intense physical intimacy -- the set had an intimacy coordinator and there are zero accusations that Baldoni crossed any lines. Even if he did "linger" during one of their scenes it would honestly be hard to say whether that was him violating a boundary or simply staying in character for a second or two. Acting is weird and filming love scenes is especially weird. It feels like she's trying to make something out of nothing.

The "fat shaming" accusation is even dumber -- Lively is not and has never been fat but she's also 5'10". It's not weird for a guy only slightly taller who has a bad back to want to make sure a lift that is written into the script goes well. I don't think Nicole Kidman or Cate Blanchett are fat either and I bet a lot of actors would quietly want to make sure they didn't embarrass themselves lifting a much taller-than-average costar in a scene.

Lively just comes off as temperamental and difficult and making it hard for everyone -- not just Baldoni but also costumers and set designers and editors and others working on the film -- to do their jobs.

The only think I can't square is how the cast and Hoover and everyone has just aligned with Lively. I guess they know where the power is -- Baldoni is a no one in comparison. I wonder what this does to his career. Hollywood is so small.

I couldn’t access the full article, but is this the one that also said that Blake was really involved in the movie until she started noticing some really criticisms online of her age and the characters fashion and she basically just lost interest and made it clear she wasn’t really happy to be there. Because that totally aligns with her starting a million different businesses, doing a big launch, then getting bored and not seeing it through.

Blake strikes me as someone who hasn’t had to push hard for many things in life. She wanted a career in Hollywood which is like a one in a million shot and luckily, she happened to be born to an actor/casting director family. She hasn’t maybe had those tough character building things many of us get to by late 30s. Maybe this is a good lesson.

They weren't super explicit about it but yeah -- she was initially really invested in the movie and then they paused shooting during the strike and when they came back she didn't seem to want to be there at all. I am not sure people know for sure it was because of the criticism of her character's costumes that circulated online (the initial photos from the set WERE insane in terms of how she was dressed and how her hair looked) but that was defintiely the speculation.

I doubt she will take a positive lesson from this. I think she will feel like a martyr and decide that people are just being unfair or sexist or whatever. And she'll talk about it like it was a huge trauma and trial but in reality she'll experience no ill effects and go back to life as normal.

I do think she'll hold grudges about who was on her side and who wasn't forever though. And that's why the cast has aligned with her and people are afraid to say anything negative about her on the record (but will leak negative things about her anonymously).

She should just reissue the movie “Blake’s Version” and CGI different outfits in. She could release lots of different variants with the footage only Baldoni shot, BLake’s version with the “right clothes,” etc. As long as there is a variant with a musical with Taylor Swift in it, she can be a mean martyr all she wants, sing and talk about her grudges and people will eat it up.

The behavior is the same, just Blake is the actress version of Taylor Swift.

I don’t know Taylor personally, obviously, but the comparisons are really weak. Love her or hate her, Taylor is incredibly talented and prolific. You really can’t say that about Blake. feel like she waltzed into an acting career because of nepotism and lucked into a lot of what she has. Let’s be honest, if she married penn badgley or the equivalent of another actor on not on the same success level of Ryan Reynolds, would we even be talking about her?

We disagree. I think Taylor is a nepo-baby too. Her greatest talent is marketing just like mom and dad.
Same girl different genre.

Her parents helped but they were not already in show business.

Therefore, she is not a nepo baby.

Oh I guess I didn’t understand the term. Paris Hilton of the Hilton hotels is to me a nepo baby because money.
Ivanka trump is too

I figured anyone who makes it big because their parents had money was a nepo baby. Taylor and Blake are double because they made it bacause their parents had money AND they used the fam business for fame (in Blake’s case it was acting and in Taylor’s it was marketing and her dads Desiree for her to be famous)

Clearly I’m missing something.

Yeah just because you didn't grow up dirt poor, doesn't make you a "nepo baby." It's whether your family was in Hollywood/showbiz.

Parks Hilton is a whole other level because she has no accomplishments like making music or movies. She is famous for being rich. She's an heiress / socialite.

Exactly. Like Ivanka Trump, Hilton has no real work experience beyond being wealthy.

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Anonymous wrote:Thought this was a pretty fair and even assessment of the whole conflict with Baldoni:

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/it-ends-with-us-crew-members-talk-feud-blake-lively-justin-baldoni-1235089972/

In the end I wind up feeling for Baldoni. He might have been a somewhat green director on this production but it sounds like he was professional and kind and that people liked working with him. I also feel like the accusations Blake's people have leaked about Baldoni -- the kiss that "lingered" and him talking to his trainer about lifting her -- feel extremely manufactured to try and get people to dislike him. There's just not much too them.

The two filmed multiple intimate scenes and were playing people who are supposed to have intense physical intimacy -- the set had an intimacy coordinator and there are zero accusations that Baldoni crossed any lines. Even if he did "linger" during one of their scenes it would honestly be hard to say whether that was him violating a boundary or simply staying in character for a second or two. Acting is weird and filming love scenes is especially weird. It feels like she's trying to make something out of nothing.

The "fat shaming" accusation is even dumber -- Lively is not and has never been fat but she's also 5'10". It's not weird for a guy only slightly taller who has a bad back to want to make sure a lift that is written into the script goes well. I don't think Nicole Kidman or Cate Blanchett are fat either and I bet a lot of actors would quietly want to make sure they didn't embarrass themselves lifting a much taller-than-average costar in a scene.

Lively just comes off as temperamental and difficult and making it hard for everyone -- not just Baldoni but also costumers and set designers and editors and others working on the film -- to do their jobs.

The only think I can't square is how the cast and Hoover and everyone has just aligned with Lively. I guess they know where the power is -- Baldoni is a no one in comparison. I wonder what this does to his career. Hollywood is so small.

I couldn’t access the full article, but is this the one that also said that Blake was really involved in the movie until she started noticing some really criticisms online of her age and the characters fashion and she basically just lost interest and made it clear she wasn’t really happy to be there. Because that totally aligns with her starting a million different businesses, doing a big launch, then getting bored and not seeing it through.

Blake strikes me as someone who hasn’t had to push hard for many things in life. She wanted a career in Hollywood which is like a one in a million shot and luckily, she happened to be born to an actor/casting director family. She hasn’t maybe had those tough character building things many of us get to by late 30s. Maybe this is a good lesson.

They weren't super explicit about it but yeah -- she was initially really invested in the movie and then they paused shooting during the strike and when they came back she didn't seem to want to be there at all. I am not sure people know for sure it was because of the criticism of her character's costumes that circulated online (the initial photos from the set WERE insane in terms of how she was dressed and how her hair looked) but that was defintiely the speculation.

I doubt she will take a positive lesson from this. I think she will feel like a martyr and decide that people are just being unfair or sexist or whatever. And she'll talk about it like it was a huge trauma and trial but in reality she'll experience no ill effects and go back to life as normal.

I do think she'll hold grudges about who was on her side and who wasn't forever though. And that's why the cast has aligned with her and people are afraid to say anything negative about her on the record (but will leak negative things about her anonymously).

She should just reissue the movie “Blake’s Version” and CGI different outfits in. She could release lots of different variants with the footage only Baldoni shot, BLake’s version with the “right clothes,” etc. As long as there is a variant with a musical with Taylor Swift in it, she can be a mean martyr all she wants, sing and talk about her grudges and people will eat it up.

The behavior is the same, just Blake is the actress version of Taylor Swift.

I don’t know Taylor personally, obviously, but the comparisons are really weak. Love her or hate her, Taylor is incredibly talented and prolific. You really can’t say that about Blake. feel like she waltzed into an acting career because of nepotism and lucked into a lot of what she has. Let’s be honest, if she married penn badgley or the equivalent of another actor on not on the same success level of Ryan Reynolds, would we even be talking about her?

We disagree. I think Taylor is a nepo-baby too. Her greatest talent is marketing just like mom and dad.
Same girl different genre.

Her parents helped but they were not already in show business.

Therefore, she is not a nepo baby.

Oh I guess I didn’t understand the term. Paris Hilton of the Hilton hotels is to me a nepo baby because money.
Ivanka trump is too

I figured anyone who makes it big because their parents had money was a nepo baby. Taylor and Blake are double because they made it bacause their parents had money AND they used the fam business for fame (in Blake’s case it was acting and in Taylor’s it was marketing and her dads Desiree for her to be famous)

Clearly I’m missing something.

Yeah just because you didn't grow up dirt poor, doesn't make you a "nepo baby." It's whether your family was in Hollywood/showbiz.

Parks Hilton is a whole other level because she has no accomplishments like making music or movies. She is famous for being rich. She's an heiress / socialite.

Taylor’s family was not wealthy. They were upper middle class. Her dad was in finance, but in a small town in Pennsylvania. The big-time finance guys are in NYC.

I grew up in a slightly bigger town and my dad was CEO of a big company… Guarantee I was wealthier than Taylor growing up. But only one of us made it as billionaire musician. Huh.

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Anonymous wrote:She is a Nepo baby AND a Harvey Weinstein girl

Why did she need Harvey Weinstein then?

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Anonymous wrote:She is a Nepo baby AND a Harvey Weinstein girl

Why did she need Harvey Weinstein then?

Harvey liked to help the nepo babies. Gwyneth was a nepo baby and Harvey helped her win an Oscar. He was the ultimate Hollywood deal maker so if casting the kid of someone who could help him in other ways later was an option, of course he's going to do that.

And since he was also a sexual predator, we can assume he made sure the nepo babies knew he was doing them favors for their parents and they "owed" him.

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Anonymous wrote:She is a Nepo baby AND a Harvey Weinstein girl

Why did she need Harvey Weinstein then?

Harvey liked to help the nepo babies. Gwyneth was a nepo baby and Harvey helped her win an Oscar. He was the ultimate Hollywood deal maker so if casting the kid of someone who could help him in other ways later was an option, of course he's going to do that.

And since he was also a sexual predator, we can assume he made sure the nepo babies knew he was doing them favors for their parents and they "owed" him.

Harvey tried to attack Gwyneth too, but she escaped before he could rape her. Then Brad Pitt (then her boyfriend) brazenly went up to Harvey and gave him a piece of his mind. It was one of Brad's better moments.

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Look up photos of Harvey Weinstein and Blake Lively.
He helped her. And everyone knows the story about how Harvey Weinstein helped people.

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She's basic and gauche. Plantation wedding, mean girl interviews, showing up to the Super Bowl wearing millions of dollars of Tiffany...