What's going on with FCBEscola NOVA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good for the market place. I'm so tired of this "A" Hole coaches at these top clubs treating kids and families as if we work for them. My child played her ass off, team had a winning record, and still got ripped every game as if they were the cleveland browns. For a young girl that loved soccer since U4 to come home and say soccer isn't fun anymore was gut wrenching.

As a parent screw it, then we leave and we give Barca a shot. Time will tell, but I'm tired of the whole BS claims of development. All of them want to win and they could care less about the player. My parting moment was calling out the coach at the end of year party where I asked him in front of a group of parents why he told people we left because my daughter didn't make the first team, when in actuality we got an offer for the first team and turned him down 3 times because he kept calling?

So for the new family in the area, there is no club loyalty. Pick a good coach and if they are good stick with them. Barca is a new concept in the area and I know for a fact that they gained some top area players this year. I know Loudoun lost a fair share of Reds (1st team) at multiple age groups to Barca. Loudoun better figure something out soon, because DCU is coming. I can't think of being in a worse situation, MLS team literally in your back yard and Barca in your front yard.

You're implying Loudoun Red girls are leaving Loudoun for Barca? Really? How many girls players does Barca even have? The turnover for Loudoun Red girls is very, very low.

[Anonymous]

I never implied it was just girls, but yes my player is a girl.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good for the market place. I'm so tired of this "A" Hole coaches at these top clubs treating kids and families as if we work for them. My child played her ass off, team had a winning record, and still got ripped every game as if they were the cleveland browns. For a young girl that loved soccer since U4 to come home and say soccer isn't fun anymore was gut wrenching.

As a parent screw it, then we leave and we give Barca a shot. Time will tell, but I'm tired of the whole BS claims of development. All of them want to win and they could care less about the player. My parting moment was calling out the coach at the end of year party where I asked him in front of a group of parents why he told people we left because my daughter didn't make the first team, when in actuality we got an offer for the first team and turned him down 3 times because he kept calling?

So for the new family in the area, there is no club loyalty. Pick a good coach and if they are good stick with them. Barca is a new concept in the area and I know for a fact that they gained some top area players this year. I know Loudoun lost a fair share of Reds (1st team) at multiple age groups to Barca. Loudoun better figure something out soon, because DCU is coming. I can't think of being in a worse situation, MLS team literally in your back yard and Barca in your front yard.

Yeah, right. This tired trope looks awfully familiar

Name the A-hole coach and club so we can corroborate with the other parents.

[Anonymous]

I'm not the OP, but we all know no one can do that for fear of retaliation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good for the market place. I'm so tired of this "A" Hole coaches at these top clubs treating kids and families as if we work for them. My child played her ass off, team had a winning record, and still got ripped every game as if they were the cleveland browns. For a young girl that loved soccer since U4 to come home and say soccer isn't fun anymore was gut wrenching.

As a parent screw it, then we leave and we give Barca a shot. Time will tell, but I'm tired of the whole BS claims of development. All of them want to win and they could care less about the player. My parting moment was calling out the coach at the end of year party where I asked him in front of a group of parents why he told people we left because my daughter didn't make the first team, when in actuality we got an offer for the first team and turned him down 3 times because he kept calling?

So for the new family in the area, there is no club loyalty. Pick a good coach and if they are good stick with them. Barca is a new concept in the area and I know for a fact that they gained some top area players this year. I know Loudoun lost a fair share of Reds (1st team) at multiple age groups to Barca. Loudoun better figure something out soon, because DCU is coming. I can't think of being in a worse situation, MLS team literally in your back yard and Barca in your front yard.

Yeah, right. This tired trope looks awfully familiar

Name the A-hole coach and club so we can corroborate with the other parents.

Or you can look at your roster and see if it is strangely different than it was last year. Just a thought.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good for the market place. I'm so tired of this "A" Hole coaches at these top clubs treating kids and families as if we work for them. My child played her ass off, team had a winning record, and still got ripped every game as if they were the cleveland browns. For a young girl that loved soccer since U4 to come home and say soccer isn't fun anymore was gut wrenching.

As a parent screw it, then we leave and we give Barca a shot. Time will tell, but I'm tired of the whole BS claims of development. All of them want to win and they could care less about the player. My parting moment was calling out the coach at the end of year party where I asked him in front of a group of parents why he told people we left because my daughter didn't make the first team, when in actuality we got an offer for the first team and turned him down 3 times because he kept calling?

So for the new family in the area, there is no club loyalty. Pick a good coach and if they are good stick with them. Barca is a new concept in the area and I know for a fact that they gained some top area players this year. I know Loudoun lost a fair share of Reds (1st team) at multiple age groups to Barca. Loudoun better figure something out soon, because DCU is coming. I can't think of being in a worse situation, MLS team literally in your back yard and Barca in your front yard.

Yeah, right. This tired trope looks awfully familiar

Name the A-hole coach and club so we can corroborate with the other parents.

Or you can look at your roster and see if it is strangely different than it was last year. Just a thought.

I think this topic has been beaten to death. I don't care where they came from or why, let's see what happens moving forward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good for the market place. I'm so tired of this "A" Hole coaches at these top clubs treating kids and families as if we work for them. My child played her ass off, team had a winning record, and still got ripped every game as if they were the cleveland browns. For a young girl that loved soccer since U4 to come home and say soccer isn't fun anymore was gut wrenching.

As a parent screw it, then we leave and we give Barca a shot. Time will tell, but I'm tired of the whole BS claims of development. All of them want to win and they could care less about the player. My parting moment was calling out the coach at the end of year party where I asked him in front of a group of parents why he told people we left because my daughter didn't make the first team, when in actuality we got an offer for the first team and turned him down 3 times because he kept calling?

So for the new family in the area, there is no club loyalty. Pick a good coach and if they are good stick with them. Barca is a new concept in the area and I know for a fact that they gained some top area players this year. I know Loudoun lost a fair share of Reds (1st team) at multiple age groups to Barca. Loudoun better figure something out soon, because DCU is coming. I can't think of being in a worse situation, MLS team literally in your back yard and Barca in your front yard.

Yeah, right. This tired trope looks awfully familiar

Name the A-hole coach and club so we can corroborate with the other parents.

Or you can look at your roster and see if it is strangely different than it was last year. Just a thought.

Different poster here. We have similar story to the above poster. I find that there is a lot of immaturity of leadership and a lot of 'scare tactics' with the travel Clubs. I find highly accomplished Travel soccer parents shaking in their boots and a**-kissing for fear if they say something or ask a critical question their kid will be black-balled or demoted. Why? Because it happens all of the time. Then you get the bandwagon parents that pile it on and trash-talk the families that left even though in private they were even bigger critics.

F*ck that. I looked at parents I respected and saw how timid and scared they were to make a change when it clearly wasn't working out for them. Why pay for crap? Why stay in a bad situation? Why pay several thousand dollars and be terrified if you speak up about something that is bothering you---it's the end of the run for your child at that Club? Why are parents hanging around in situations that are untenable?

Why don't all Club TDs act like adults and look for collaboration in this youth soccer thing--between Clubs, between teams, between leagues. Since they don't, we have Clubs right next door to each other that won't join the same Leagues. We are crisscrossing good competition to play worse competition a much farther drive away because of pissing matches. It didn't used to be that way. My parents were Coaches and some of their best friends were Coaches at other Clubs and they would trade information, etc. They did not have adversarial relationships. They all respected one another. This was when the sport was growing---now the market is over-run.

My guess--it's because Clubs are competing for $$ nowadays. So--they have to trash talk other Clubs, other players, etc. There is nobody better they will tell you. We got none of that type of talk when we joined FCB. They didn't even know the landscape--the reputation of Clubs in the area, etc. They didn't show a Power Point of their teams State Cup wins, etc and promise that your kid could become pro or get a full-ride if you stayed with them. They only know soccer. They love soccer. They love training kids. They are a paid full-time staff and this is their day job.---not something they just do after work. Our kids were not black-balled for playing for other Clubs while training with them. They weren't sidelined or penalized for missing a game or a training session because of a major test or a family wedding, etc. There is perspective.

People can trash-talk all they want. I will put my kids where they are happy, we are happy and they are loving the sport while gaining skill and knowledge---and having great role models that instill good values. You will not find Barca coaches screaming at refs or an unruly parental sideline or teammates arguing with each other on the field. Parents won't be shouting instructions at their kids and other players during games---if so, they will hear about it. It's not tolerated. And, it comes down to the training. I have looked far and wide and it's some of the best in the area.

I will add---not all Clubs are 'bad guys'. There are still decent people out there. There are some even reaching out to welcome Barca. But--to the ones that come on here looking to ridicule little kids that left their Clubs. Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good for the market place. I'm so tired of this "A" Hole coaches at these top clubs treating kids and families as if we work for them. My child played her ass off, team had a winning record, and still got ripped every game as if they were the cleveland browns. For a young girl that loved soccer since U4 to come home and say soccer isn't fun anymore was gut wrenching.

As a parent screw it, then we leave and we give Barca a shot. Time will tell, but I'm tired of the whole BS claims of development. All of them want to win and they could care less about the player. My parting moment was calling out the coach at the end of year party where I asked him in front of a group of parents why he told people we left because my daughter didn't make the first team, when in actuality we got an offer for the first team and turned him down 3 times because he kept calling?

So for the new family in the area, there is no club loyalty. Pick a good coach and if they are good stick with them. Barca is a new concept in the area and I know for a fact that they gained some top area players this year. I know Loudoun lost a fair share of Reds (1st team) at multiple age groups to Barca. Loudoun better figure something out soon, because DCU is coming. I can't think of being in a worse situation, MLS team literally in your back yard and Barca in your front yard.

Yeah, right. This tired trope looks awfully familiar

Name the A-hole coach and club so we can corroborate with the other parents.

Or you can look at your roster and see if it is strangely different than it was last year. Just a thought.

Different poster here. We have similar story to the above poster. I find that there is a lot of immaturity of leadership and a lot of 'scare tactics' with the travel Clubs. I find highly accomplished Travel soccer parents shaking in their boots and a**-kissing for fear if they say something or ask a critical question their kid will be black-balled or demoted. Why? Because it happens all of the time. Then you get the bandwagon parents that pile it on and trash-talk the families that left even though in private they were even bigger critics.

F*ck that. I looked at parents I respected and saw how timid and scared they were to make a change when it clearly wasn't working out for them. Why pay for crap? Why stay in a bad situation? Why pay several thousand dollars and be terrified if you speak up about something that is bothering you---it's the end of the run for your child at that Club? Why are parents hanging around in situations that are untenable?

Why don't all Club TDs act like adults and look for collaboration in this youth soccer thing--between Clubs, between teams, between leagues. Since they don't, we have Clubs right next door to each other that won't join the same Leagues. We are crisscrossing good competition to play worse competition a much farther drive away because of pissing matches. It didn't used to be that way. My parents were Coaches and some of their best friends were Coaches at other Clubs and they would trade information, etc. They did not have adversarial relationships. They all respected one another. This was when the sport was growing---now the market is over-run.

My guess--it's because Clubs are competing for $$ nowadays. So--they have to trash talk other Clubs, other players, etc. There is nobody better they will tell you. We got none of that type of talk when we joined FCB. They didn't even know the landscape--the reputation of Clubs in the area, etc. They didn't show a Power Point of their teams State Cup wins, etc and promise that your kid could become pro or get a full-ride if you stayed with them. They only know soccer. They love soccer. They love training kids. They are a paid full-time staff and this is their day job.---not something they just do after work. Our kids were not black-balled for playing for other Clubs while training with them. They weren't sidelined or penalized for missing a game or a training session because of a major test or a family wedding, etc. There is perspective.

People can trash-talk all they want. I will put my kids where they are happy, we are happy and they are loving the sport while gaining skill and knowledge---and having great role models that instill good values. You will not find Barca coaches screaming at refs or an unruly parental sideline or teammates arguing with each other on the field. Parents won't be shouting instructions at their kids and other players during games---if so, they will hear about it. It's not tolerated. And, it comes down to the training. I have looked far and wide and it's some of the best in the area.

I will add---not all Clubs are 'bad guys'. There are still decent people out there. There are some even reaching out to welcome Barca. But--to the ones that come on here looking to ridicule little kids that left their Clubs. Grow up.

Barça are a breath of fresh air. If you don’t get it, you just don’t get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not the OP, but we all know no one can do that for fear of retaliation.

Retaliation? after the poster supposedly went to the team party and called the coach out publicly? Besides, what's the retaliation when the kid is no longer there? These clubs aren't the mafia.

Not plausible. It's much easier to name a club and coach on this forum that in a group of in the flesh people, including the coach!

I call bullshit on the majority of this thread. i know whomever's posting is trying to promote Barca, but you should really leave that to the professionals and seek psychiatric help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not the OP, but we all know no one can do that for fear of retaliation.

Retaliation? after the poster supposedly went to the team party and called the coach out publicly? Besides, what's the retaliation when the kid is no longer there? These clubs aren't the mafia.

Not plausible. It's much easier to name a club and coach on this forum that in a group of in the flesh people, including the coach!

I call bullshit on the majority of this thread. i know whomever's posting is trying to promote Barca, but you should really leave that to the professionals and seek psychiatric help.

Listen to him, he knows everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not the OP, but we all know no one can do that for fear of retaliation.

Retaliation? after the poster supposedly went to the team party and called the coach out publicly? Besides, what's the retaliation when the kid is no longer there? These clubs aren't the mafia.

Not plausible. It's much easier to name a club and coach on this forum that in a group of in the flesh people, including the coach!

I call bullshit on the majority of this thread. i know whomever's posting is trying to promote Barca, but you should really leave that to the professionals and seek psychiatric help.

NP. If a Coach was telling everyone on the team false information---my kid left because they didn't get a first team offer---and they did actually get the offer---and the Coach kept calling to try to persuade them to stay....I'm the type that would publicly call Bullsh*t as well. It's okay for them to lie and trash someone? And--you are supposed to smile and show up at the end of the season party with the Liar? I would definitely have said something at the party. And if I were another parent on the team, I'd be thankful for the parent for showing the lack of the integrity of the Coach for future reference.

What world do you live in? P*ssyville?

Further, I'm sure the parent wouldn't have said anything at all if the Coach hadn't felt it necessary to spread untruth/lies in the first place. He didn't need to give the other parents an explanation why any player left---especially a completely false one! What an a**hole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not the OP, but we all know no one can do that for fear of retaliation.

Retaliation? after the poster supposedly went to the team party and called the coach out publicly? Besides, what's the retaliation when the kid is no longer there? These clubs aren't the mafia.

Not plausible. It's much easier to name a club and coach on this forum that in a group of in the flesh people, including the coach!

I call bullshit on the majority of this thread. i know whomever's posting is trying to promote Barca, but you should really leave that to the professionals and seek psychiatric help.

I think you need help if you feel his/her story is far fetched. It's like groundhog day in the world of travel soccer and many here have experienced the same exact thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not the OP, but we all know no one can do that for fear of retaliation.

Retaliation? after the poster supposedly went to the team party and called the coach out publicly? Besides, what's the retaliation when the kid is no longer there? These clubs aren't the mafia.

Not plausible. It's much easier to name a club and coach on this forum that in a group of in the flesh people, including the coach!

I call bullshit on the majority of this thread. i know whomever's posting is trying to promote Barca, but you should really leave that to the professionals and seek psychiatric help.

NP. If a Coach was telling everyone on the team false information---my kid left because they didn't get a first team offer---and they did actually get the offer---and the Coach kept calling to try to persuade them to stay....I'm the type that would publicly call Bullsh*t as well. It's okay for them to lie and trash someone? And--you are supposed to smile and show up at the end of the season party with the Liar? I would definitely have said something at the party. And if I were another parent on the team, I'd be thankful for the parent for showing the lack of the integrity of the Coach for future reference.

What world do you live in? P*ssyville?

Further, I'm sure the parent wouldn't have said anything at all if the Coach hadn't felt it necessary to spread untruth/lies in the first place. He didn't need to give the other parents an explanation why any player left---especially a completely false one! What an a**hole.

Parents don't call bullsh*t when they see it which is why travel Clubs are the way they are....

If people want change, they need to start being that change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why don't all Club TDs act like adults and look for collaboration in this youth soccer thing--between Clubs, between teams, between leagues. Since they don't, we have Clubs right next door to each other that won't join the same Leagues. We are crisscrossing good competition to play worse competition a much farther drive away because of pissing matches.

This is very true. For example, BRYC and McLean's boys ECNL teams (i.e., their top teams) will play almost all of their away games against teams based in North and South Carolina. One would think there are better ways to "develop" players without subjecting them to multi-hour weekly travel to places like, Greenville, Cornelius, Greensboro, Wilmington, Raleigh, Columbia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why don't all Club TDs act like adults and look for collaboration in this youth soccer thing--between Clubs, between teams, between leagues. Since they don't, we have Clubs right next door to each other that won't join the same Leagues. We are crisscrossing good competition to play worse competition a much farther drive away because of pissing matches.

This is very true. For example, BRYC and McLean's boys ECNL teams (i.e., their top teams) will play almost all of their away games against teams based in North and South Carolina. One would think there are better ways to "develop" players without subjecting them to multi-hour weekly travel to places like, Greenville, Cornelius, Greensboro, Wilmington, Raleigh, Columbia.

+100

It's a bunch of adults acting like children.