What's going on with FCBEscola NOVA?

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Why don't all Club TDs act like adults and look for collaboration in this youth soccer thing--between Clubs, between teams, between leagues. Since they don't, we have Clubs right next door to each other that won't join the same Leagues. We are crisscrossing good competition to play worse competition a much farther drive away because of pissing matches.

This is very true. For example, BRYC and McLean's boys ECNL teams (i.e., their top teams) will play almost all of their away games against teams based in North and South Carolina. One would think there are better ways to "develop" players without subjecting them to multi-hour weekly travel to places like, Greenville, Cornelius, Greensboro, Wilmington, Raleigh, Columbia.

Hyperbole.

Nobody is traveling WEEKLY to North and South Carolina. The trips are bundled, two nearby NC teams travel north to play two NoVA clubs.

With 6 total clubs in NC/SC that is one to two trips per season. All the other games are home or are against Richmond, Loudoun, BRYC, McLean, and VDA.

So not that bad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just found this forum as we are moving to the area soon. This is the longest thread. Why so much sustained interest in this one club? Can’t figure out if that’s a good or bad sign

It’s an afront to Leagues/Travel Clubs. They don’t want any of these foreign academies to work. It takes $ from their pocket. So disparage and freeze out is what is best for business as usual. If it works, Clubs will have to start being accountable for the product/training they offer. Options makes that happen in any free market. If the US Youth soccer wanted to succeed there would be more than one path for youth American players. There currently isn’t. Most travel Clubs only want their players paying for in-house training and get upset if players want to branch out to hone their individual game. There is no scouting in the US it’s Club-to-Club referrals. So families feel the need to get on one set path at age 6 with the “most win” travel Clubs feeding directly to DA. No outside path available and misses a huge swath of the landscape.

I think that’s why posters have been onthe attack.

This post and the one about lack of collaboration in youth soccer landscape, e.g., clubs next door that want talk or put their teams in the same league due to a pissing match, are so true. Now everyone is driving hundreds of thousands of mile each year for matches---when there are enough top teams in a 30 mile radius to fill a League. Only we can't do that because of Clubs that won't talk to one another and want to 'separate' themselves into a different league to say it's more elite than the other one.

Save the travel for tournaments and let the leagues be local.

Btw, the system works when those in the asylum fight amongst themselves. Parents that buy into this crap lock, stock and barrel are letting it continue. Each year---it gets even more far-flung and crazy. Nothing like driving several hours for a blowout when the team 15 minutes away would be a fight to the finish.

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Why don't all Club TDs act like adults and look for collaboration in this youth soccer thing--between Clubs, between teams, between leagues. Since they don't, we have Clubs right next door to each other that won't join the same Leagues. We are crisscrossing good competition to play worse competition a much farther drive away because of pissing matches.

This is very true. For example, BRYC and McLean's boys ECNL teams (i.e., their top teams) will play almost all of their away games against teams based in North and South Carolina. One would think there are better ways to "develop" players without subjecting them to multi-hour weekly travel to places like, Greenville, Cornelius, Greensboro, Wilmington, Raleigh, Columbia.

Hyperbole.

Nobody is traveling WEEKLY to North and South Carolina. The trips are bundled, two nearby NC teams travel north to play two NoVA clubs.

With 6 total clubs in NC/SC that is one to two trips per season. All the other games are home or are against Richmond, Loudoun, BRYC, McLean, and VDA.

So not that bad.

call me crazy, but I don't think of Richmond as local for a regular season game...especially in I95 south traffic.

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^ when the drive to get there is longer than the match---it cannot be considered local.

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Anonymous wrote:^ when the drive to get there is longer than the match---it cannot be considered local.

True and when two or three road trips happen in a 9-10 game season such trips cannot be considered "weekly".

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Why don't all Club TDs act like adults and look for collaboration in this youth soccer thing--between Clubs, between teams, between leagues. Since they don't, we have Clubs right next door to each other that won't join the same Leagues. We are crisscrossing good competition to play worse competition a much farther drive away because of pissing matches.

This is very true. For example, BRYC and McLean's boys ECNL teams (i.e., their top teams) will play almost all of their away games against teams based in North and South Carolina. One would think there are better ways to "develop" players without subjecting them to multi-hour weekly travel to places like, Greenville, Cornelius, Greensboro, Wilmington, Raleigh, Columbia.

Hyperbole.

Nobody is traveling WEEKLY to North and South Carolina. The trips are bundled, two nearby NC teams travel north to play two NoVA clubs.

With 6 total clubs in NC/SC that is one to two trips per season. All the other games are home or are against Richmond, Loudoun, BRYC, McLean, and VDA.

So not that bad.

I was talking about boys ECNL teams. According to ECNL website, there are no Loudon, VDA or Richmond teams in the same conference - it is just BRYC and McLean and a bunch of Carolina teams. http://www.boysecnl.com/mid-atlantic-conference/ Perhaps, they could cut down some travel by playing doublheaders on the road, but why do it in the first place? Is the competition in North and South Carolina so much better than in metro DC area to justify this kind of travel/expense?

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All great questions to ask before one clicks accept on the team offer. There is transparency with this that nobody should be caught off guard.

The barn door was left open long ago on the overall topic of the necessity of the travel. It is what it is now. Pick the situation that makes sense for you and your family regardless of league status etc. It is your money, your time, your family.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not the OP, but we all know no one can do that for fear of retaliation.

Retaliation? after the poster supposedly went to the team party and called the coach out publicly? Besides, what's the retaliation when the kid is no longer there? These clubs aren't the mafia.

Not plausible. It's much easier to name a club and coach on this forum that in a group of in the flesh people, including the coach!

I call bullshit on the majority of this thread. i know whomever's posting is trying to promote Barca, but you should really leave that to the professionals and seek psychiatric help.

I think you need help if you feel his/her story is far fetched. It's like groundhog day in the world of travel soccer and many here have experienced the same exact thing.

Completely agree. I read the account of the showdown at the party, and thought about how much better I'd feel if I'd had the chance/bravery to publicly set the record straight after a lying TD slandered our family for leaving a club. I've seen a lot of horrible behavior from coaches and TDs in this area, and people are extremely naive if they think retaliation doesn't happen. There are plenty of good people out there too, even at large clubs, but you have to do a lot of due diligence to find them.

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My son came home from a practice and was bad mouthing a kid after he had left our club for some unknown reason. He informed me that the coach used this kid's name as a the butt of all the jokes during the practice, "why are you so slow, you look like little jimmy run? Quit playing like jimmy, get control of the ball". I wanted to call the coach out for targeting a little boy when the final decision was probably from the parents. But knew that this coach was petty enough to punish my kid for my actions.

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Anonymous wrote:My son came home from a practice and was bad mouthing a kid after he had left our club for some unknown reason. He informed me that the coach used this kid's name as a the butt of all the jokes during the practice, "why are you so slow, you look like little jimmy run? Quit playing like jimmy, get control of the ball". I wanted to call the coach out for targeting a little boy when the final decision was probably from the parents. But knew that this coach was petty enough to punish my kid for my actions.

Yeah you won’t see any of that at FCB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son came home from a practice and was bad mouthing a kid after he had left our club for some unknown reason. He informed me that the coach used this kid's name as a the butt of all the jokes during the practice, "why are you so slow, you look like little jimmy run? Quit playing like jimmy, get control of the ball". I wanted to call the coach out for targeting a little boy when the final decision was probably from the parents. But knew that this coach was petty enough to punish my kid for my actions.

Yup, coaches get all butt hurt and take it out on kids.

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let's be clear, the Barcelona program is not a charity either, it's a business too. there's a reason they said up in loudon and not Southeast DC. see how long the coaches stick aroaround if the membermembership fee$ stop

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Anonymous wrote: let's be clear, the Barcelona program is not a charity either, it's a business too. there's a reason they said up in loudon and not Southeast DC. see how long the coaches stick aroaround if the membermembership fee$ stop

They grew their registration numbers this year. Whats your point?

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Anonymous wrote: let's be clear, the Barcelona program is not a charity either, it's a business too. there's a reason they said up in loudon and not Southeast DC. see how long the coaches stick aroaround if the membermembership fee$ stop

They won’t, because they’re not doing anything wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not the OP, but we all know no one can do that for fear of retaliation.

Retaliation? after the poster supposedly went to the team party and called the coach out publicly? Besides, what's the retaliation when the kid is no longer there? These clubs aren't the mafia.

Not plausible. It's much easier to name a club and coach on this forum that in a group of in the flesh people, including the coach!

I call bullshit on the majority of this thread. i know whomever's posting is trying to promote Barca, but you should really leave that to the professionals and seek psychiatric help.

NP. If a Coach was telling everyone on the team false information---my kid left because they didn't get a first team offer---and they did actually get the offer---and the Coach kept calling to try to persuade them to stay....I'm the type that would publicly call Bullsh*t as well. It's okay for them to lie and trash someone? And--you are supposed to smile and show up at the end of the season party with the Liar? I would definitely have said something at the party. And if I were another parent on the team, I'd be thankful for the parent for showing the lack of the integrity of the Coach for future reference.

What world do you live in? P*ssyville?

Further, I'm sure the parent wouldn't have said anything at all if the Coach hadn't felt it necessary to spread untruth/lies in the first place. He didn't need to give the other parents an explanation why any player left---especially a completely false one! What an a**hole.

I see the crazy has gone into overdrive in this thread, as predicted.

I was calling bullshit on the story because the poster won't name the club and coach. If he told him off in public, there's no reason not to here.

It's a bullshit story and this is a bullshit thread being propelled by one or two people in need of psychiatric help.

Still waiting for the coach and club.