To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?

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Anonymous wrote:If you're talking about socially elite, and you certainly should be, then the only schools that matter are.....

Princeton
Willians/Amherst
Harvard
Dartmouth
Bowdoin/Midd
Wellesley/Wesleyan

The rest are vulgar, jumped up, pre-professional diploma mills.

Take out Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin (?), Middlebury (?!), Wellesley, Wesleyan ( ) and add in Yale, Columbia, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth and then we're talking.

I'm sorry my poor child but absolutely no one is looking at a Bowdoin or a Middlebury degree and thinking, "Ah, yes, socially elite."

Dear, you either know or you don't.

DP - if you really think you're going to convince people on an anonymous internet board that schools like Bowdoin or Middlebury are elite, you've got a long, uphill battle ahead of you. The kids that attend those schools might be bright, but they're not elite. Trust me.

They are "socially elite" apparently.

They're not. If you send your child to somewhere like Middlebury expecting them to be treated as "socially elite" in life, you've put your money on the wrong horse. I went to Andover, matriculated to an Ivy, and most of my social circle (for better or worse) attended schools within the Ivy/Ivy Plus range. While Williams and Amherst will get some respect, and while most would readily acknowledge that kids at many LACs are bright and curious individuals, no one would label those schools as "socially elite", at least not moreso than the top 10-or-so universities that have long been favored by the upper-middle classes in America.

Being in the upper middle class does not make you socially elite.

Going to Harvard does not make you socially elite.

I'm not quite sure what the socially elite are. If talking about, say, NYC super wealthy society set with charity balls and Hamptons summers and jetsetting just for a birthday extravaganza, I have some unpleasant news for you regarding where most of them went to college. It's all over the place. Going to Harvard over, say, Kenyon is meaningless within this world. Harvard is nice! But that's all there is to it. Same thing with children of billionaires. All over the place. They have their quotas at the Ivies along with places like USC as schools want their alum dollars but it does diddly squat for the rest of the student body.

Then we do have "brain trust" people, heads of policy institutions and think tanks and who rotate in and out of cabinet positions and special advisor roles and prominent department chairs at Harvard or Princeton, yeah, I can see how a certain handful of colleges really do dominate in this environment. But are they the same as socially elite? Maybe, maybe not.

Nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:If you're talking about socially elite, and you certainly should be, then the only schools that matter are.....

Princeton
Willians/Amherst
Harvard
Dartmouth
Bowdoin/Midd
Wellesley/Wesleyan

The rest are vulgar, jumped up, pre-professional diploma mills.

Take out Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin (?), Middlebury (?!), Wellesley, Wesleyan ( ) and add in Yale, Columbia, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth and then we're talking.

I'm sorry my poor child but absolutely no one is looking at a Bowdoin or a Middlebury degree and thinking, "Ah, yes, socially elite."

Dear, you either know or you don't.

DP - if you really think you're going to convince people on an anonymous internet board that schools like Bowdoin or Middlebury are elite, you've got a long, uphill battle ahead of you. The kids that attend those schools might be bright, but they're not elite. Trust me.

They are "socially elite" apparently.

They're not. If you send your child to somewhere like Middlebury expecting them to be treated as "socially elite" in life, you've put your money on the wrong horse. I went to Andover, matriculated to an Ivy, and most of my social circle (for better or worse) attended schools within the Ivy/Ivy Plus range. While Williams and Amherst will get some respect, and while most would readily acknowledge that kids at many LACs are bright and curious individuals, no one would label those schools as "socially elite", at least not moreso than the top 10-or-so universities that have long been favored by the upper-middle classes in America.

Ah yes, Andover, the public prep school. And “matriculated to an Ivy” screams Cornell. Internships at T. Rowe Price and eventually a cozy 3BR in Hingham. They have a farmer’s market.

NESCAC kids are on the island.

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Elite in the minds of the 50 people outside of those in three states who have heard of these weird places.

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Anonymous wrote:If you're talking about socially elite, and you certainly should be, then the only schools that matter are.....

Princeton
Willians/Amherst
Harvard
Dartmouth
Bowdoin/Midd
Wellesley/Wesleyan

The rest are vulgar, jumped up, pre-professional diploma mills.

Take out Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin (?), Middlebury (?!), Wellesley, Wesleyan ( ) and add in Yale, Columbia, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth and then we're talking.

I'm sorry my poor child but absolutely no one is looking at a Bowdoin or a Middlebury degree and thinking, "Ah, yes, socially elite."

Dear, you either know or you don't.

DP - if you really think you're going to convince people on an anonymous internet board that schools like Bowdoin or Middlebury are elite, you've got a long, uphill battle ahead of you. The kids that attend those schools might be bright, but they're not elite. Trust me.

They are "socially elite" apparently.

They're not. If you send your child to somewhere like Middlebury expecting them to be treated as "socially elite" in life, you've put your money on the wrong horse. I went to Andover, matriculated to an Ivy, and most of my social circle (for better or worse) attended schools within the Ivy/Ivy Plus range. While Williams and Amherst will get some respect, and while most would readily acknowledge that kids at many LACs are bright and curious individuals, no one would label those schools as "socially elite", at least not moreso than the top 10-or-so universities that have long been favored by the upper-middle classes in America.

Ah yes, Andover, the public prep school. And “matriculated to an Ivy” screams Cornell. Internships at T. Rowe Price and eventually a cozy 3BR in Hingham. They have a farmer’s market.

NESCAC kids are on the island.

There are plenty of students not like this "on the island" poster at nescac schools or at wellesley or at other competitive colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d put Wellesley back in. Elite people have heard of elite schools. Hillary gave it a boost.

18 Elites [No Wellesley]:
1 - Harvard [The "Brand" despite its underwhelming campus and undergraduate education]
2 - Stanford/Yale/MIT/Princeton [I would go to Stanford or Yale, if I could get in]
6 - Columbia/Penn/Caltech [Columbia just outside of the top 5 is still a phenomenal institution with elite plus status in the best city]
9 - Chicago/Duke/Northwestern
12 - Dartmouth/Brown/Cornell/Hopkins/Berkley/Amherst/Williams [only 1 public and 2 SLACs deserve elite status]

Just missed the cut: Swathmore, Pomona, Harvey Mudd

Stanford and MIT should be in a tier of their own since they have global recognition that Yale and Princeton lacks.

I would still put Columbia in the Yale/Princeton tier. I think most would agree that Columbia's in between the two tiers, but it's closer to Yale and Princeton. Just as there's no reason to cut out 3 schools from this list to say that the top 15 schools are elite, having a top 5 is sort of an arbitrary cutoff.

1 - Harvard
2 - Stanford/MIT
4 - Yale/Princeton/Columbia
7 - Penn/Caltech
9 - Chicago/Duke/Northwestern
12 - Dartmouth/Brown/Cornell/Hopkins/Berkeley/Amherst/Williams

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Anonymous wrote:If you're talking about socially elite, and you certainly should be, then the only schools that matter are.....

Princeton
Willians/Amherst
Harvard
Dartmouth
Bowdoin/Midd
Wellesley/Wesleyan

The rest are vulgar, jumped up, pre-professional diploma mills.

Take out Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin (?), Middlebury (?!), Wellesley, Wesleyan ( ) and add in Yale, Columbia, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth and then we're talking.

I'm sorry my poor child but absolutely no one is looking at a Bowdoin or a Middlebury degree and thinking, "Ah, yes, socially elite."

Dear, you either know or you don't.

DP - if you really think you're going to convince people on an anonymous internet board that schools like Bowdoin or Middlebury are elite, you've got a long, uphill battle ahead of you. The kids that attend those schools might be bright, but they're not elite. Trust me.

They are "socially elite" apparently.

They're not. If you send your child to somewhere like Middlebury expecting them to be treated as "socially elite" in life, you've put your money on the wrong horse. I went to Andover, matriculated to an Ivy, and most of my social circle (for better or worse) attended schools within the Ivy/Ivy Plus range. While Williams and Amherst will get some respect, and while most would readily acknowledge that kids at many LACs are bright and curious individuals, no one would label those schools as "socially elite", at least not moreso than the top 10-or-so universities that have long been favored by the upper-middle classes in America.

Ah yes, Andover, the public prep school. And “matriculated to an Ivy” screams Cornell. Internships at T. Rowe Price and eventually a cozy 3BR in Hingham. They have a farmer’s market.

NESCAC kids are on the island.

Lol. The cope is strong with this one.

Not Cornell, but trust me -- Cornell is leagues more "socially elite" than whatever bumble**** small school you're shilling for.

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Lol. Just wait for bowdoin to get back in here. Jeeves must be driving to maine to pick up the prince or princess soo there is lots of time for dcum posting.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Just wait for bowdoin to get back in here. Jeeves must be driving to maine to pick up the prince or princess soo there is lots of time for dcum posting.

Haha seriously. Of all the places to try to pass off as elite, Bowdoin? I actually chuckled out loud.

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Anonymous wrote:If you're talking about socially elite, and you certainly should be, then the only schools that matter are.....

Princeton
Willians/Amherst
Harvard
Dartmouth
Bowdoin/Midd
Wellesley/Wesleyan

The rest are vulgar, jumped up, pre-professional diploma mills.

Take out Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin (?), Middlebury (?!), Wellesley, Wesleyan ( ) and add in Yale, Columbia, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth and then we're talking.

I'm sorry my poor child but absolutely no one is looking at a Bowdoin or a Middlebury degree and thinking, "Ah, yes, socially elite."

Dear, you either know or you don't.

DP - if you really think you're going to convince people on an anonymous internet board that schools like Bowdoin or Middlebury are elite, you've got a long, uphill battle ahead of you. The kids that attend those schools might be bright, but they're not elite. Trust me.

They are "socially elite" apparently.

They're not. If you send your child to somewhere like Middlebury expecting them to be treated as "socially elite" in life, you've put your money on the wrong horse. I went to Andover, matriculated to an Ivy, and most of my social circle (for better or worse) attended schools within the Ivy/Ivy Plus range. While Williams and Amherst will get some respect, and while most would readily acknowledge that kids at many LACs are bright and curious individuals, no one would label those schools as "socially elite", at least not moreso than the top 10-or-so universities that have long been favored by the upper-middle classes in America.

Aside from HYP, Chicago, Stanford, and MIT, the social elite flock to SLACs. Most MC and many UMC (more in terms of financial status than social status) haven't heard of Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, etc. You have to have gone to certain elite high schools and have been raised in families exposed to graduate level education to be familiar with the top LACs.

That is total nonsense.

Good friend of mine who went to HLS from a state school, grew up MC, had never heard of Swarthmore, Amherst, or Williams until he went to law school. Not an uncommon story - most people who know about these prestigious SLACs are either from highly educated families or went to prep schools. Harvard's a household name. Amherst is not.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d put Wellesley back in. Elite people have heard of elite schools. Hillary gave it a boost.

18 Elites [No Wellesley]:
1 - Harvard [The "Brand" despite its underwhelming campus and undergraduate education]
2 - Stanford/Yale/MIT/Princeton [I would go to Stanford or Yale, if I could get in]
6 - Columbia/Penn/Caltech [Columbia just outside of the top 5 is still a phenomenal institution with elite plus status in the best city]
9 - Chicago/Duke/Northwestern
12 - Dartmouth/Brown/Cornell/Hopkins/Berkley/Amherst/Williams [only 1 public and 2 SLACs deserve elite status]

Just missed the cut: Swathmore, Pomona, Harvey Mudd

Stanford and MIT should be in a tier of their own since they have global recognition that Yale and Princeton lacks.

I would still put Columbia in the Yale/Princeton tier. I think most would agree that Columbia's in between the two tiers, but it's closer to Yale and Princeton. Just as there's no reason to cut out 3 schools from this list to say that the top 15 schools are elite, having a top 5 is sort of an arbitrary cutoff.

1 - Harvard
2 - Stanford/MIT
4 - Yale/Princeton/Columbia
7 - Penn/Caltech
9 - Chicago/Duke/Northwestern
12 - Dartmouth/Brown/Cornell/Hopkins/Berkeley/Amherst/Williams

You're just parroting US News ranking. You offer nothing insightful.

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Anonymous wrote:If you're talking about socially elite, and you certainly should be, then the only schools that matter are.....

Princeton
Willians/Amherst
Harvard
Dartmouth
Bowdoin/Midd
Wellesley/Wesleyan

The rest are vulgar, jumped up, pre-professional diploma mills.

Take out Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin (?), Middlebury (?!), Wellesley, Wesleyan ( ) and add in Yale, Columbia, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth and then we're talking.

I'm sorry my poor child but absolutely no one is looking at a Bowdoin or a Middlebury degree and thinking, "Ah, yes, socially elite."

Dear, you either know or you don't.

DP - if you really think you're going to convince people on an anonymous internet board that schools like Bowdoin or Middlebury are elite, you've got a long, uphill battle ahead of you. The kids that attend those schools might be bright, but they're not elite. Trust me.

They are "socially elite" apparently.

They're not. If you send your child to somewhere like Middlebury expecting them to be treated as "socially elite" in life, you've put your money on the wrong horse. I went to Andover, matriculated to an Ivy, and most of my social circle (for better or worse) attended schools within the Ivy/Ivy Plus range. While Williams and Amherst will get some respect, and while most would readily acknowledge that kids at many LACs are bright and curious individuals, no one would label those schools as "socially elite", at least not moreso than the top 10-or-so universities that have long been favored by the upper-middle classes in America.

Aside from HYP, Chicago, Stanford, and MIT, the social elite flock to SLACs. Most MC and many UMC (more in terms of financial status than social status) haven't heard of Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, etc. You have to have gone to certain elite high schools and have been raised in families exposed to graduate level education to be familiar with the top LACs.

That is total nonsense.

Good friend of mine who went to HLS from a state school, grew up MC, had never heard of Swarthmore, Amherst, or Williams until he went to law school. Not an uncommon story - most people who know about these prestigious SLACs are either from highly educated families or went to prep schools. Harvard's a household name. Amherst is not.

Exactly. Slackjaw yokel newly minted UMC don’t know prestigious SLACs. They also think Chili’s is fine dining and get their suits Buy One Get 4 Free from Joseph A Banks. This is precisely the issue.

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Anonymous wrote:If you're talking about socially elite, and you certainly should be, then the only schools that matter are.....

Princeton
Willians/Amherst
Harvard
Dartmouth
Bowdoin/Midd
Wellesley/Wesleyan

The rest are vulgar, jumped up, pre-professional diploma mills.

Take out Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin (?), Middlebury (?!), Wellesley, Wesleyan ( ) and add in Yale, Columbia, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth and then we're talking.

I'm sorry my poor child but absolutely no one is looking at a Bowdoin or a Middlebury degree and thinking, "Ah, yes, socially elite."

Dear, you either know or you don't.

DP - if you really think you're going to convince people on an anonymous internet board that schools like Bowdoin or Middlebury are elite, you've got a long, uphill battle ahead of you. The kids that attend those schools might be bright, but they're not elite. Trust me.

They are "socially elite" apparently.

They're not. If you send your child to somewhere like Middlebury expecting them to be treated as "socially elite" in life, you've put your money on the wrong horse. I went to Andover, matriculated to an Ivy, and most of my social circle (for better or worse) attended schools within the Ivy/Ivy Plus range. While Williams and Amherst will get some respect, and while most would readily acknowledge that kids at many LACs are bright and curious individuals, no one would label those schools as "socially elite", at least not moreso than the top 10-or-so universities that have long been favored by the upper-middle classes in America.

Aside from HYP, Chicago, Stanford, and MIT, the social elite flock to SLACs. Most MC and many UMC (more in terms of financial status than social status) haven't heard of Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, etc. You have to have gone to certain elite high schools and have been raised in families exposed to graduate level education to be familiar with the top LACs.

That is total nonsense.

Good friend of mine who went to HLS from a state school, grew up MC, had never heard of Swarthmore, Amherst, or Williams until he went to law school. Not an uncommon story - most people who know about these prestigious SLACs are either from highly educated families or went to prep schools. Harvard's a household name. Amherst is not.

Exactly. Slackjaw yokel newly minted UMC don’t know prestigious SLACs. They also think Chili’s is fine dining and get their suits Buy One Get 4 Free from Joseph A Banks. This is precisely the issue.

Hahaha no matter how many lame juvenile insults you throw, you know deep down inside that absolutely no one thinks Bowdoin or Middlebury (or even Swarthmore) are "socially elite." It's just desperately wishful thinking, and honestly just makes you come across as pathetic.

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I can’t even.

No really.

NP here.

Y’all too stupid to be embarrassed.

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You're just parroting US News ranking. You offer nothing insightful.

This comment made me laugh harder than anything else in this ridiculous and repetitive thread of nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:If you're talking about socially elite, and you certainly should be, then the only schools that matter are.....

Princeton
Willians/Amherst
Harvard
Dartmouth
Bowdoin/Midd
Wellesley/Wesleyan

The rest are vulgar, jumped up, pre-professional diploma mills.

Take out Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin (?), Middlebury (?!), Wellesley, Wesleyan ( ) and add in Yale, Columbia, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth and then we're talking.

I'm sorry my poor child but absolutely no one is looking at a Bowdoin or a Middlebury degree and thinking, "Ah, yes, socially elite."

Dear, you either know or you don't.

DP - if you really think you're going to convince people on an anonymous internet board that schools like Bowdoin or Middlebury are elite, you've got a long, uphill battle ahead of you. The kids that attend those schools might be bright, but they're not elite. Trust me.

They are "socially elite" apparently.

They're not. If you send your child to somewhere like Middlebury expecting them to be treated as "socially elite" in life, you've put your money on the wrong horse. I went to Andover, matriculated to an Ivy, and most of my social circle (for better or worse) attended schools within the Ivy/Ivy Plus range. While Williams and Amherst will get some respect, and while most would readily acknowledge that kids at many LACs are bright and curious individuals, no one would label those schools as "socially elite", at least not moreso than the top 10-or-so universities that have long been favored by the upper-middle classes in America.

Aside from HYP, Chicago, Stanford, and MIT, the social elite flock to SLACs. Most MC and many UMC (more in terms of financial status than social status) haven't heard of Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, etc. You have to have gone to certain elite high schools and have been raised in families exposed to graduate level education to be familiar with the top LACs.

That is total nonsense.

Good friend of mine who went to HLS from a state school, grew up MC, had never heard of Swarthmore, Amherst, or Williams until he went to law school. Not an uncommon story - most people who know about these prestigious SLACs are either from highly educated families or went to prep schools. Harvard's a household name. Amherst is not.

Exactly. Slackjaw yokel newly minted UMC don’t know prestigious SLACs. They also think Chili’s is fine dining and get their suits Buy One Get 4 Free from Joseph A Banks. This is precisely the issue.

Hahaha no matter how many lame juvenile insults you throw, you know deep down inside that absolutely no one thinks Bowdoin or Middlebury (or even Swarthmore) are "socially elite." It's just desperately wishful thinking, and honestly just makes you come across as pathetic.

The "socially elite" term is the problem here, not getting the colleges wrong. I am sure you can find snobby bores at every school mentioned on here and then some if that is what you are looking for.