To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you're talking about socially elite, and you certainly should be, then the only schools that matter are.....

Princeton
Willians/Amherst
Harvard
Dartmouth
Bowdoin/Midd
Wellesley/Wesleyan

The rest are vulgar, jumped up, pre-professional diploma mills.

Take out Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin (?), Middlebury (?!), Wellesley, Wesleyan ( ) and add in Yale, Columbia, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth and then we're talking.

I'm sorry my poor child but absolutely no one is looking at a Bowdoin or a Middlebury degree and thinking, "Ah, yes, socially elite."

Dear, you either know or you don't.

DP - if you really think you're going to convince people on an anonymous internet board that schools like Bowdoin or Middlebury are elite, you've got a long, uphill battle ahead of you. The kids that attend those schools might be bright, but they're not elite. Trust me.

They are "socially elite" apparently.

They're not. If you send your child to somewhere like Middlebury expecting them to be treated as "socially elite" in life, you've put your money on the wrong horse. I went to Andover, matriculated to an Ivy, and most of my social circle (for better or worse) attended schools within the Ivy/Ivy Plus range. While Williams and Amherst will get some respect, and while most would readily acknowledge that kids at many LACs are bright and curious individuals, no one would label those schools as "socially elite", at least not moreso than the top 10-or-so universities that have long been favored by the upper-middle classes in America.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're talking about socially elite, and you certainly should be, then the only schools that matter are.....

Princeton
Willians/Amherst
Harvard
Dartmouth
Bowdoin/Midd
Wellesley/Wesleyan

The rest are vulgar, jumped up, pre-professional diploma mills.

Take out Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin (?), Middlebury (?!), Wellesley, Wesleyan ( ) and add in Yale, Columbia, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth and then we're talking.

I'm sorry my poor child but absolutely no one is looking at a Bowdoin or a Middlebury degree and thinking, "Ah, yes, socially elite."

Dear, you either know or you don't.

DP - if you really think you're going to convince people on an anonymous internet board that schools like Bowdoin or Middlebury are elite, you've got a long, uphill battle ahead of you. The kids that attend those schools might be bright, but they're not elite. Trust me.

They are "socially elite" apparently.

They're not. If you send your child to somewhere like Middlebury expecting them to be treated as "socially elite" in life, you've put your money on the wrong horse. I went to Andover, matriculated to an Ivy, and most of my social circle (for better or worse) attended schools within the Ivy/Ivy Plus range. While Williams and Amherst will get some respect, and while most would readily acknowledge that kids at many LACs are bright and curious individuals, no one would label those schools as "socially elite", at least not moreso than the top 10-or-so universities that have long been favored by the upper-middle classes in America.

Aside from HYP, Chicago, Stanford, and MIT, the social elite flock to SLACs. Most MC and many UMC (more in terms of financial status than social status) haven't heard of Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, etc. You have to have gone to certain elite high schools and have been raised in families exposed to graduate level education to be familiar with the top LACs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're talking about socially elite, and you certainly should be, then the only schools that matter are.....

Princeton
Willians/Amherst
Harvard
Dartmouth
Bowdoin/Midd
Wellesley/Wesleyan

The rest are vulgar, jumped up, pre-professional diploma mills.

Take out Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin (?), Middlebury (?!), Wellesley, Wesleyan ( ) and add in Yale, Columbia, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth and then we're talking.

I'm sorry my poor child but absolutely no one is looking at a Bowdoin or a Middlebury degree and thinking, "Ah, yes, socially elite."

Dear, you either know or you don't.

DP - if you really think you're going to convince people on an anonymous internet board that schools like Bowdoin or Middlebury are elite, you've got a long, uphill battle ahead of you. The kids that attend those schools might be bright, but they're not elite. Trust me.

They are "socially elite" apparently.

They're not. If you send your child to somewhere like Middlebury expecting them to be treated as "socially elite" in life, you've put your money on the wrong horse. I went to Andover, matriculated to an Ivy, and most of my social circle (for better or worse) attended schools within the Ivy/Ivy Plus range. While Williams and Amherst will get some respect, and while most would readily acknowledge that kids at many LACs are bright and curious individuals, no one would label those schools as "socially elite", at least not moreso than the top 10-or-so universities that have long been favored by the upper-middle classes in America.

I guess you need to move up in social circles to hang with the Middlebury and bowdoin alumns.

[Anonymous]

I am really not picking on middlebury or Bowdoin or any of the others....all very fine schools. Just making fun of a nonsense post.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're talking about socially elite, and you certainly should be, then the only schools that matter are.....

Princeton
Willians/Amherst
Harvard
Dartmouth
Bowdoin/Midd
Wellesley/Wesleyan

The rest are vulgar, jumped up, pre-professional diploma mills.

Take out Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin (?), Middlebury (?!), Wellesley, Wesleyan ( ) and add in Yale, Columbia, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth and then we're talking.

I'm sorry my poor child but absolutely no one is looking at a Bowdoin or a Middlebury degree and thinking, "Ah, yes, socially elite."

Dear, you either know or you don't.

DP - if you really think you're going to convince people on an anonymous internet board that schools like Bowdoin or Middlebury are elite, you've got a long, uphill battle ahead of you. The kids that attend those schools might be bright, but they're not elite. Trust me.

They are "socially elite" apparently.

They're not. If you send your child to somewhere like Middlebury expecting them to be treated as "socially elite" in life, you've put your money on the wrong horse. I went to Andover, matriculated to an Ivy, and most of my social circle (for better or worse) attended schools within the Ivy/Ivy Plus range. While Williams and Amherst will get some respect, and while most would readily acknowledge that kids at many LACs are bright and curious individuals, no one would label those schools as "socially elite", at least not moreso than the top 10-or-so universities that have long been favored by the upper-middle classes in America.

Aside from HYP, Chicago, Stanford, and MIT, the social elite flock to SLACs. Most MC and many UMC (more in terms of financial status than social status) haven't heard of Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, etc. You have to have gone to certain elite high schools and have been raised in families exposed to graduate level education to be familiar with the top LACs.

That is total nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're talking about socially elite, and you certainly should be, then the only schools that matter are.....

Princeton
Willians/Amherst
Harvard
Dartmouth
Bowdoin/Midd
Wellesley/Wesleyan

The rest are vulgar, jumped up, pre-professional diploma mills.

Take out Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin (?), Middlebury (?!), Wellesley, Wesleyan ( ) and add in Yale, Columbia, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth and then we're talking.

I'm sorry my poor child but absolutely no one is looking at a Bowdoin or a Middlebury degree and thinking, "Ah, yes, socially elite."

Dear, you either know or you don't.

DP - if you really think you're going to convince people on an anonymous internet board that schools like Bowdoin or Middlebury are elite, you've got a long, uphill battle ahead of you. The kids that attend those schools might be bright, but they're not elite. Trust me.

Ah, but you've missed my point haven't you? I have no interest in convincing anybody of anything.....you either know or you don't. Either way it matters little to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're talking about socially elite, and you certainly should be, then the only schools that matter are.....

Princeton
Willians/Amherst
Harvard
Dartmouth
Bowdoin/Midd
Wellesley/Wesleyan

The rest are vulgar, jumped up, pre-professional diploma mills.

Take out Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin (?), Middlebury (?!), Wellesley, Wesleyan ( ) and add in Yale, Columbia, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth and then we're talking.

I'm sorry my poor child but absolutely no one is looking at a Bowdoin or a Middlebury degree and thinking, "Ah, yes, socially elite."

Dear, you either know or you don't.

DP - if you really think you're going to convince people on an anonymous internet board that schools like Bowdoin or Middlebury are elite, you've got a long, uphill battle ahead of you. The kids that attend those schools might be bright, but they're not elite. Trust me.

Ah, but you've missed my point haven't you? I have no interest in convincing anybody of anything.....you either know or you don't. Either way it matters little to me.

Maybe look up irony? People with no interest are not wasting their disinterested time posting on dcum.

[Anonymous]

I’d put Wellesley back in. Elite people have heard of elite schools. Hillary gave it a boost.

[Anonymous]

Yuck. Yes you can certainly find the type of student at any of these places that would post something like...... "elite people have heard of elite schools".....but they offer plenty to those that attend for the academics do font just dismiss them because of a few crass comments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d put Wellesley back in. Elite people have heard of elite schools. Hillary gave it a boost.

18 Elites [No Wellesley]:
1 - Harvard [The "Brand" despite its underwhelming campus and undergraduate education]
2 - Stanford/Yale/MIT/Princeton [I would go to Stanford or Yale, if I could get in]
6 - Columbia/Penn/Caltech [Columbia just outside of the top 5 is still a phenomenal institution with elite plus status in the best city]
9 - Chicago/Duke/Northwestern
12 - Dartmouth/Brown/Cornell/Hopkins/Berkley/Amherst/Williams [only 1 public and 2 SLACs deserve elite status]

Just missed the cut: Swathmore, Pomona, Harvey Mudd

[Anonymous]

Hahahaha Bowdoin and Middlebury alums really have jumped the shark, haven't they. Next thing you'll start hearing how schools like Tulane and Tufts are basically Harvard. LOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hahahaha Bowdoin and Middlebury alums really have jumped the shark, haven't they. Next thing you'll start hearing how schools like Tulane and Tufts are basically Harvard. LOL.

How would you rank Bowdoin, Middlebury, Wellesley, Tufts and Tulane in terms of prestige?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hahahaha Bowdoin and Middlebury alums really have jumped the shark, haven't they. Next thing you'll start hearing how schools like Tulane and Tufts are basically Harvard. LOL.

How would you rank Bowdoin, Middlebury, Wellesley, Tufts and Tulane in terms of prestige?

Wellesley and then the rest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hahahaha Bowdoin and Middlebury alums really have jumped the shark, haven't they. Next thing you'll start hearing how schools like Tulane and Tufts are basically Harvard. LOL.

How would you rank Bowdoin, Middlebury, Wellesley, Tufts and Tulane in terms of prestige?

Wellesley and then the rest.

Wellesley
Tufts
Middlebury
Tulane (a big push from folks in the DMV)
Bowdoin

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're talking about socially elite, and you certainly should be, then the only schools that matter are.....

Princeton
Willians/Amherst
Harvard
Dartmouth
Bowdoin/Midd
Wellesley/Wesleyan

The rest are vulgar, jumped up, pre-professional diploma mills.

Take out Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin (?), Middlebury (?!), Wellesley, Wesleyan ( ) and add in Yale, Columbia, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth and then we're talking.

I'm sorry my poor child but absolutely no one is looking at a Bowdoin or a Middlebury degree and thinking, "Ah, yes, socially elite."

Dear, you either know or you don't.

DP - if you really think you're going to convince people on an anonymous internet board that schools like Bowdoin or Middlebury are elite, you've got a long, uphill battle ahead of you. The kids that attend those schools might be bright, but they're not elite. Trust me.

They are "socially elite" apparently.

They're not. If you send your child to somewhere like Middlebury expecting them to be treated as "socially elite" in life, you've put your money on the wrong horse. I went to Andover, matriculated to an Ivy, and most of my social circle (for better or worse) attended schools within the Ivy/Ivy Plus range. While Williams and Amherst will get some respect, and while most would readily acknowledge that kids at many LACs are bright and curious individuals, no one would label those schools as "socially elite", at least not moreso than the top 10-or-so universities that have long been favored by the upper-middle classes in America.

Being in the upper middle class does not make you socially elite.

Going to Harvard does not make you socially elite.

I'm not quite sure what the socially elite are. If talking about, say, NYC super wealthy society set with charity balls and Hamptons summers and jetsetting just for a birthday extravaganza, I have some unpleasant news for you regarding where most of them went to college. It's all over the place. Going to Harvard over, say, Kenyon is meaningless within this world. Harvard is nice! But that's all there is to it. Same thing with children of billionaires. All over the place. They have their quotas at the Ivies along with places like USC as schools want their alum dollars but it does diddly squat for the rest of the student body.

Then we do have "brain trust" people, heads of policy institutions and think tanks and who rotate in and out of cabinet positions and special advisor roles and prominent department chairs at Harvard or Princeton, yeah, I can see how a certain handful of colleges really do dominate in this environment. But are they the same as socially elite? Maybe, maybe not.