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Anonymous wrote:Seriously. What's the worst thing that could happen? He gives a GFR an opportunity at BSC? Pretty unlikely to even happen but if there are players that are good enough to play ECNL they'll leave GFR eventually anyway.


Right, this complaint is so brain-dead.


GFR tops out at ECNL-RL. Bethesda is ECNL. Also, they play in different conferences and have different seasons. Also, as far as I can tell, neither NM nor ML coach the same age groups at both clubs. Also, they are good and very intentional about deconflicting schedules even though there is occasional overlap. Also, there is benefit in ECNL-RL girls having coaches familiar with the ECNL landscape. Also, they are really great coaches focused on developing strong players and teams that can play at higher levels (if you give them the chance).

LOL. Cuckold FC. Your TD is off in Florida this week, doing nothing for your club, and you all want to spin that as a positive.


The TD is not in Florida secretly. Totally disagree that he is doing "nothing" (=0?) for GFR when he is there.

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who coaches ECNL teams at national events and thus knows first hand what players need to be competitive at higher levels? Does none of that translate into the coaching approach/style/strategies that he brings to GFR (not just his teams)? Is there 0 value in him staying current in that direct knowledge?

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who has and continues to build relationships with other coaches at that event, both at the ECNL and college level? No, I'm not implying that those relationships translate directly to GFR teams right now but it does uniquely position him and the club to develop players -- those who want it, which isn't everyone -- in the right direction to be competitive for clubs at that level.

I'd love to hear the argument why that is doing nothing for the club.

I don’t think you have a grasp for the time commitment coaching ECNL teams requires. It’s not like RL, not even close.


This is such a bold and confident assertion. There are plenty of people who understand this from direct experience (the players and parents on all their teams). Are you saying they can't do both? But they've already shown they can do both. Didn't they take an ECNL team to nationals last year while coaching RL teams?
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Anonymous wrote:Seriously. What's the worst thing that could happen? He gives a GFR an opportunity at BSC? Pretty unlikely to even happen but if there are players that are good enough to play ECNL they'll leave GFR eventually anyway.


Right, this complaint is so brain-dead.


GFR tops out at ECNL-RL. Bethesda is ECNL. Also, they play in different conferences and have different seasons. Also, as far as I can tell, neither NM nor ML coach the same age groups at both clubs. Also, they are good and very intentional about deconflicting schedules even though there is occasional overlap. Also, there is benefit in ECNL-RL girls having coaches familiar with the ECNL landscape. Also, they are really great coaches focused on developing strong players and teams that can play at higher levels (if you give them the chance).

LOL. Cuckold FC. Your TD is off in Florida this week, doing nothing for your club, and you all want to spin that as a positive.


The TD is not in Florida secretly. Totally disagree that he is doing "nothing" (=0?) for GFR when he is there.

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who coaches ECNL teams at national events and thus knows first hand what players need to be competitive at higher levels? Does none of that translate into the coaching approach/style/strategies that he brings to GFR (not just his teams)? Is there 0 value in him staying current in that direct knowledge?

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who has and continues to build relationships with other coaches at that event, both at the ECNL and college level? No, I'm not implying that those relationships translate directly to GFR teams right now but it does uniquely position him and the club to develop players -- those who want it, which isn't everyone -- in the right direction to be competitive for clubs at that level.

I'd love to hear the argument why that is doing nothing for the club.

I don’t think you have a grasp for the time commitment coaching ECNL teams requires. It’s not like RL, not even close.


This is such a bold and confident assertion. There are plenty of people who understand this from direct experience (the players and parents on all their teams). Are you saying they can't do both? But they've already shown they can do both. Didn't they take an ECNL team to nationals last year while coaching RL teams?

You can do both, as long as one club doesn’t expect a whole hell of a lot from their TD. How much involvement did those two have with the u15-u19 girls the past two years? One recruiting “presentation”? That’s all I saw and they left all the workload on GD and assistant coaches. Don’t even get me started on the boys side…
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Anonymous wrote:Seriously. What's the worst thing that could happen? He gives a GFR an opportunity at BSC? Pretty unlikely to even happen but if there are players that are good enough to play ECNL they'll leave GFR eventually anyway.


Right, this complaint is so brain-dead.


GFR tops out at ECNL-RL. Bethesda is ECNL. Also, they play in different conferences and have different seasons. Also, as far as I can tell, neither NM nor ML coach the same age groups at both clubs. Also, they are good and very intentional about deconflicting schedules even though there is occasional overlap. Also, there is benefit in ECNL-RL girls having coaches familiar with the ECNL landscape. Also, they are really great coaches focused on developing strong players and teams that can play at higher levels (if you give them the chance).

LOL. Cuckold FC. Your TD is off in Florida this week, doing nothing for your club, and you all want to spin that as a positive.


The TD is not in Florida secretly. Totally disagree that he is doing "nothing" (=0?) for GFR when he is there.

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who coaches ECNL teams at national events and thus knows first hand what players need to be competitive at higher levels? Does none of that translate into the coaching approach/style/strategies that he brings to GFR (not just his teams)? Is there 0 value in him staying current in that direct knowledge?

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who has and continues to build relationships with other coaches at that event, both at the ECNL and college level? No, I'm not implying that those relationships translate directly to GFR teams right now but it does uniquely position him and the club to develop players -- those who want it, which isn't everyone -- in the right direction to be competitive for clubs at that level.

I'd love to hear the argument why that is doing nothing for the club.

I don’t think you have a grasp for the time commitment coaching ECNL teams requires. It’s not like RL, not even close.


This is such a bold and confident assertion. There are plenty of people who understand this from direct experience (the players and parents on all their teams). Are you saying they can't do both? But they've already shown they can do both. Didn't they take an ECNL team to nationals last year while coaching RL teams?

You can do both, as long as one club doesn’t expect a whole hell of a lot from their TD. How much involvement did those two have with the u15-u19 girls the past two years? One recruiting “presentation”? That’s all I saw and they left all the workload on GD and assistant coaches. Don’t even get me started on the boys side…


They did have to spend some time last year at key times dealing with Super Mario’s shenanigans—maybe if you hadn’t supported that they would have had more time for these other things you want them to do.
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Anonymous wrote:Seriously. What's the worst thing that could happen? He gives a GFR an opportunity at BSC? Pretty unlikely to even happen but if there are players that are good enough to play ECNL they'll leave GFR eventually anyway.


Right, this complaint is so brain-dead.


GFR tops out at ECNL-RL. Bethesda is ECNL. Also, they play in different conferences and have different seasons. Also, as far as I can tell, neither NM nor ML coach the same age groups at both clubs. Also, they are good and very intentional about deconflicting schedules even though there is occasional overlap. Also, there is benefit in ECNL-RL girls having coaches familiar with the ECNL landscape. Also, they are really great coaches focused on developing strong players and teams that can play at higher levels (if you give them the chance).

LOL. Cuckold FC. Your TD is off in Florida this week, doing nothing for your club, and you all want to spin that as a positive.


The TD is not in Florida secretly. Totally disagree that he is doing "nothing" (=0?) for GFR when he is there.

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who coaches ECNL teams at national events and thus knows first hand what players need to be competitive at higher levels? Does none of that translate into the coaching approach/style/strategies that he brings to GFR (not just his teams)? Is there 0 value in him staying current in that direct knowledge?

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who has and continues to build relationships with other coaches at that event, both at the ECNL and college level? No, I'm not implying that those relationships translate directly to GFR teams right now but it does uniquely position him and the club to develop players -- those who want it, which isn't everyone -- in the right direction to be competitive for clubs at that level.

I'd love to hear the argument why that is doing nothing for the club.

I don’t think you have a grasp for the time commitment coaching ECNL teams requires. It’s not like RL, not even close.


This is such a bold and confident assertion. There are plenty of people who understand this from direct experience (the players and parents on all their teams). Are you saying they can't do both? But they've already shown they can do both. Didn't they take an ECNL team to nationals last year while coaching RL teams?

You can do both, as long as one club doesn’t expect a whole hell of a lot from their TD. How much involvement did those two have with the u15-u19 girls the past two years? One recruiting “presentation”? That’s all I saw and they left all the workload on GD and assistant coaches. Don’t even get me started on the boys side…


Ah, moving goalposts again. First you argue that NM and ML can't coach both NL and RL teams. Facts say otherwise as they both have measurable success in doing so with happy players and parents. Then you switch to NM not doing his job because you, personally, didn't see him doing anything on a field or something? Please tell us what your understanding of a TD's job responsibilities are and what NM has not done to your satisfaction in the 1.5 seasons he's been at GFR. I'm sure in doing so you will give him some time credit for dealing with coups, secret futsal clubs, defecting coaches, etc. stemming from issues before his arrival, right?
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Anonymous wrote:Seriously. What's the worst thing that could happen? He gives a GFR an opportunity at BSC? Pretty unlikely to even happen but if there are players that are good enough to play ECNL they'll leave GFR eventually anyway.


Right, this complaint is so brain-dead.


GFR tops out at ECNL-RL. Bethesda is ECNL. Also, they play in different conferences and have different seasons. Also, as far as I can tell, neither NM nor ML coach the same age groups at both clubs. Also, they are good and very intentional about deconflicting schedules even though there is occasional overlap. Also, there is benefit in ECNL-RL girls having coaches familiar with the ECNL landscape. Also, they are really great coaches focused on developing strong players and teams that can play at higher levels (if you give them the chance).

LOL. Cuckold FC. Your TD is off in Florida this week, doing nothing for your club, and you all want to spin that as a positive.


The TD is not in Florida secretly. Totally disagree that he is doing "nothing" (=0?) for GFR when he is there.

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who coaches ECNL teams at national events and thus knows first hand what players need to be competitive at higher levels? Does none of that translate into the coaching approach/style/strategies that he brings to GFR (not just his teams)? Is there 0 value in him staying current in that direct knowledge?

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who has and continues to build relationships with other coaches at that event, both at the ECNL and college level? No, I'm not implying that those relationships translate directly to GFR teams right now but it does uniquely position him and the club to develop players -- those who want it, which isn't everyone -- in the right direction to be competitive for clubs at that level.

I'd love to hear the argument why that is doing nothing for the club.

I don’t think you have a grasp for the time commitment coaching ECNL teams requires. It’s not like RL, not even close.


This is such a bold and confident assertion. There are plenty of people who understand this from direct experience (the players and parents on all their teams). Are you saying they can't do both? But they've already shown they can do both. Didn't they take an ECNL team to nationals last year while coaching RL teams?

You can do both, as long as one club doesn’t expect a whole hell of a lot from their TD. How much involvement did those two have with the u15-u19 girls the past two years? One recruiting “presentation”? That’s all I saw and they left all the workload on GD and assistant coaches. Don’t even get me started on the boys side…


Ah, moving goalposts again. First you argue that NM and ML can't coach both NL and RL teams. Facts say otherwise as they both have measurable success in doing so with happy players and parents. Then you switch to NM not doing his job because you, personally, didn't see him doing anything on a field or something? Please tell us what your understanding of a TD's job responsibilities are and what NM has not done to your satisfaction in the 1.5 seasons he's been at GFR. I'm sure in doing so you will give him some time credit for dealing with coups, secret futsal clubs, defecting coaches, etc. stemming from issues before his arrival, right?
Nope, not moving goalposts. If you are stupid enough to keep paying these guys big dollars to lead the club, while they spend an inordinate amount of time with Bethesda, knock yourself out.
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Anonymous wrote:Seriously. What's the worst thing that could happen? He gives a GFR an opportunity at BSC? Pretty unlikely to even happen but if there are players that are good enough to play ECNL they'll leave GFR eventually anyway.


Right, this complaint is so brain-dead.


GFR tops out at ECNL-RL. Bethesda is ECNL. Also, they play in different conferences and have different seasons. Also, as far as I can tell, neither NM nor ML coach the same age groups at both clubs. Also, they are good and very intentional about deconflicting schedules even though there is occasional overlap. Also, there is benefit in ECNL-RL girls having coaches familiar with the ECNL landscape. Also, they are really great coaches focused on developing strong players and teams that can play at higher levels (if you give them the chance).

LOL. Cuckold FC. Your TD is off in Florida this week, doing nothing for your club, and you all want to spin that as a positive.


The TD is not in Florida secretly. Totally disagree that he is doing "nothing" (=0?) for GFR when he is there.

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who coaches ECNL teams at national events and thus knows first hand what players need to be competitive at higher levels? Does none of that translate into the coaching approach/style/strategies that he brings to GFR (not just his teams)? Is there 0 value in him staying current in that direct knowledge?

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who has and continues to build relationships with other coaches at that event, both at the ECNL and college level? No, I'm not implying that those relationships translate directly to GFR teams right now but it does uniquely position him and the club to develop players -- those who want it, which isn't everyone -- in the right direction to be competitive for clubs at that level.

I'd love to hear the argument why that is doing nothing for the club.

I don’t think you have a grasp for the time commitment coaching ECNL teams requires. It’s not like RL, not even close.


This is such a bold and confident assertion. There are plenty of people who understand this from direct experience (the players and parents on all their teams). Are you saying they can't do both? But they've already shown they can do both. Didn't they take an ECNL team to nationals last year while coaching RL teams?

You can do both, as long as one club doesn’t expect a whole hell of a lot from their TD. How much involvement did those two have with the u15-u19 girls the past two years? One recruiting “presentation”? That’s all I saw and they left all the workload on GD and assistant coaches. Don’t even get me started on the boys side…


Ah, moving goalposts again. First you argue that NM and ML can't coach both NL and RL teams. Facts say otherwise as they both have measurable success in doing so with happy players and parents. Then you switch to NM not doing his job because you, personally, didn't see him doing anything on a field or something? Please tell us what your understanding of a TD's job responsibilities are and what NM has not done to your satisfaction in the 1.5 seasons he's been at GFR. I'm sure in doing so you will give him some time credit for dealing with coups, secret futsal clubs, defecting coaches, etc. stemming from issues before his arrival, right?
Nope, not moving goalposts. If you are stupid enough to keep paying these guys big dollars to lead the club, while they spend an inordinate amount of time with Bethesda, knock yourself out.


Oh, a third goalpost move, now it's just that they spend too much time coaching at BSC in your opinion that I'm sure is based on objective and well-defined measurables. Thanks for the laughs this morning.
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Anonymous wrote:Seriously. What's the worst thing that could happen? He gives a GFR an opportunity at BSC? Pretty unlikely to even happen but if there are players that are good enough to play ECNL they'll leave GFR eventually anyway.


Right, this complaint is so brain-dead.


GFR tops out at ECNL-RL. Bethesda is ECNL. Also, they play in different conferences and have different seasons. Also, as far as I can tell, neither NM nor ML coach the same age groups at both clubs. Also, they are good and very intentional about deconflicting schedules even though there is occasional overlap. Also, there is benefit in ECNL-RL girls having coaches familiar with the ECNL landscape. Also, they are really great coaches focused on developing strong players and teams that can play at higher levels (if you give them the chance).

LOL. Cuckold FC. Your TD is off in Florida this week, doing nothing for your club, and you all want to spin that as a positive.


The TD is not in Florida secretly. Totally disagree that he is doing "nothing" (=0?) for GFR when he is there.

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who coaches ECNL teams at national events and thus knows first hand what players need to be competitive at higher levels? Does none of that translate into the coaching approach/style/strategies that he brings to GFR (not just his teams)? Is there 0 value in him staying current in that direct knowledge?

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who has and continues to build relationships with other coaches at that event, both at the ECNL and college level? No, I'm not implying that those relationships translate directly to GFR teams right now but it does uniquely position him and the club to develop players -- those who want it, which isn't everyone -- in the right direction to be competitive for clubs at that level.

I'd love to hear the argument why that is doing nothing for the club.

I don’t think you have a grasp for the time commitment coaching ECNL teams requires. It’s not like RL, not even close.


This is such a bold and confident assertion. There are plenty of people who understand this from direct experience (the players and parents on all their teams). Are you saying they can't do both? But they've already shown they can do both. Didn't they take an ECNL team to nationals last year while coaching RL teams?

You can do both, as long as one club doesn’t expect a whole hell of a lot from their TD. How much involvement did those two have with the u15-u19 girls the past two years? One recruiting “presentation”? That’s all I saw and they left all the workload on GD and assistant coaches. Don’t even get me started on the boys side…


Ah, moving goalposts again. First you argue that NM and ML can't coach both NL and RL teams. Facts say otherwise as they both have measurable success in doing so with happy players and parents. Then you switch to NM not doing his job because you, personally, didn't see him doing anything on a field or something? Please tell us what your understanding of a TD's job responsibilities are and what NM has not done to your satisfaction in the 1.5 seasons he's been at GFR. I'm sure in doing so you will give him some time credit for dealing with coups, secret futsal clubs, defecting coaches, etc. stemming from issues before his arrival, right?
Nope, not moving goalposts. If you are stupid enough to keep paying these guys big dollars to lead the club, while they spend an inordinate amount of time with Bethesda, knock yourself out.


Oh, a third goalpost move, now it's just that they spend too much time coaching at BSC in your opinion that I'm sure is based on objective and well-defined measurables. Thanks for the laughs this morning.
Measurables, like player retention, coach retention, and college commitments? Those measurables don’t look so hot, do they? But, but, but, Mario!
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Anonymous wrote:Seriously. What's the worst thing that could happen? He gives a GFR an opportunity at BSC? Pretty unlikely to even happen but if there are players that are good enough to play ECNL they'll leave GFR eventually anyway.


Right, this complaint is so brain-dead.


GFR tops out at ECNL-RL. Bethesda is ECNL. Also, they play in different conferences and have different seasons. Also, as far as I can tell, neither NM nor ML coach the same age groups at both clubs. Also, they are good and very intentional about deconflicting schedules even though there is occasional overlap. Also, there is benefit in ECNL-RL girls having coaches familiar with the ECNL landscape. Also, they are really great coaches focused on developing strong players and teams that can play at higher levels (if you give them the chance).

LOL. Cuckold FC. Your TD is off in Florida this week, doing nothing for your club, and you all want to spin that as a positive.


The TD is not in Florida secretly. Totally disagree that he is doing "nothing" (=0?) for GFR when he is there.

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who coaches ECNL teams at national events and thus knows first hand what players need to be competitive at higher levels? Does none of that translate into the coaching approach/style/strategies that he brings to GFR (not just his teams)? Is there 0 value in him staying current in that direct knowledge?

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who has and continues to build relationships with other coaches at that event, both at the ECNL and college level? No, I'm not implying that those relationships translate directly to GFR teams right now but it does uniquely position him and the club to develop players -- those who want it, which isn't everyone -- in the right direction to be competitive for clubs at that level.

I'd love to hear the argument why that is doing nothing for the club.

I don’t think you have a grasp for the time commitment coaching ECNL teams requires. It’s not like RL, not even close.


This is such a bold and confident assertion. There are plenty of people who understand this from direct experience (the players and parents on all their teams). Are you saying they can't do both? But they've already shown they can do both. Didn't they take an ECNL team to nationals last year while coaching RL teams?

You can do both, as long as one club doesn’t expect a whole hell of a lot from their TD. How much involvement did those two have with the u15-u19 girls the past two years? One recruiting “presentation”? That’s all I saw and they left all the workload on GD and assistant coaches. Don’t even get me started on the boys side…


Ah, moving goalposts again. First you argue that NM and ML can't coach both NL and RL teams. Facts say otherwise as they both have measurable success in doing so with happy players and parents. Then you switch to NM not doing his job because you, personally, didn't see him doing anything on a field or something? Please tell us what your understanding of a TD's job responsibilities are and what NM has not done to your satisfaction in the 1.5 seasons he's been at GFR. I'm sure in doing so you will give him some time credit for dealing with coups, secret futsal clubs, defecting coaches, etc. stemming from issues before his arrival, right?
Nope, not moving goalposts. If you are stupid enough to keep paying these guys big dollars to lead the club, while they spend an inordinate amount of time with Bethesda, knock yourself out.


Oh, a third goalpost move, now it's just that they spend too much time coaching at BSC in your opinion that I'm sure is based on objective and well-defined measurables. Thanks for the laughs this morning.
Measurables, like player retention, coach retention, and college commitments? Those measurables don’t look so hot, do they? But, but, but, Mario!


That can be measured this summer - last year would not be realistic because the turnover of coaches and players could have also been due to the uncertainty that was created last April by the attempted cous.

As for college commitments, no one is expecting a lot (if any) of those at GFR - less then 3% of college commitments come from outside of ECNL/GA/MLS next or international players so it's silly to pretend GFR is sending players to college to play soccer.
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Anonymous wrote:Seriously. What's the worst thing that could happen? He gives a GFR an opportunity at BSC? Pretty unlikely to even happen but if there are players that are good enough to play ECNL they'll leave GFR eventually anyway.


Right, this complaint is so brain-dead.


GFR tops out at ECNL-RL. Bethesda is ECNL. Also, they play in different conferences and have different seasons. Also, as far as I can tell, neither NM nor ML coach the same age groups at both clubs. Also, they are good and very intentional about deconflicting schedules even though there is occasional overlap. Also, there is benefit in ECNL-RL girls having coaches familiar with the ECNL landscape. Also, they are really great coaches focused on developing strong players and teams that can play at higher levels (if you give them the chance).

LOL. Cuckold FC. Your TD is off in Florida this week, doing nothing for your club, and you all want to spin that as a positive.


The TD is not in Florida secretly. Totally disagree that he is doing "nothing" (=0?) for GFR when he is there.

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who coaches ECNL teams at national events and thus knows first hand what players need to be competitive at higher levels? Does none of that translate into the coaching approach/style/strategies that he brings to GFR (not just his teams)? Is there 0 value in him staying current in that direct knowledge?

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who has and continues to build relationships with other coaches at that event, both at the ECNL and college level? No, I'm not implying that those relationships translate directly to GFR teams right now but it does uniquely position him and the club to develop players -- those who want it, which isn't everyone -- in the right direction to be competitive for clubs at that level.

I'd love to hear the argument why that is doing nothing for the club.

I don’t think you have a grasp for the time commitment coaching ECNL teams requires. It’s not like RL, not even close.


This is such a bold and confident assertion. There are plenty of people who understand this from direct experience (the players and parents on all their teams). Are you saying they can't do both? But they've already shown they can do both. Didn't they take an ECNL team to nationals last year while coaching RL teams?

You can do both, as long as one club doesn’t expect a whole hell of a lot from their TD. How much involvement did those two have with the u15-u19 girls the past two years? One recruiting “presentation”? That’s all I saw and they left all the workload on GD and assistant coaches. Don’t even get me started on the boys side…


Ah, moving goalposts again. First you argue that NM and ML can't coach both NL and RL teams. Facts say otherwise as they both have measurable success in doing so with happy players and parents. Then you switch to NM not doing his job because you, personally, didn't see him doing anything on a field or something? Please tell us what your understanding of a TD's job responsibilities are and what NM has not done to your satisfaction in the 1.5 seasons he's been at GFR. I'm sure in doing so you will give him some time credit for dealing with coups, secret futsal clubs, defecting coaches, etc. stemming from issues before his arrival, right?
Nope, not moving goalposts. If you are stupid enough to keep paying these guys big dollars to lead the club, while they spend an inordinate amount of time with Bethesda, knock yourself out.


Oh, a third goalpost move, now it's just that they spend too much time coaching at BSC in your opinion that I'm sure is based on objective and well-defined measurables. Thanks for the laughs this morning.
Measurables, like player retention, coach retention, and college commitments? Those measurables don’t look so hot, do they? But, but, but, Mario!


That can be measured this summer - last year would not be realistic because the turnover of coaches and players could have also been due to the uncertainty that was created last April by the attempted cous.

As for college commitments, no one is expecting a lot (if any) of those at GFR - less then 3% of college commitments come from outside of ECNL/GA/MLS next or international players so it's silly to pretend GFR is sending players to college to play soccer.

Keep lowering the bar. Plenty of GFR players have moved on to play in college in the past and plenty of current players are capable of doing so, but little to no help so far.
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Anonymous wrote:Seriously. What's the worst thing that could happen? He gives a GFR an opportunity at BSC? Pretty unlikely to even happen but if there are players that are good enough to play ECNL they'll leave GFR eventually anyway.


Right, this complaint is so brain-dead.


GFR tops out at ECNL-RL. Bethesda is ECNL. Also, they play in different conferences and have different seasons. Also, as far as I can tell, neither NM nor ML coach the same age groups at both clubs. Also, they are good and very intentional about deconflicting schedules even though there is occasional overlap. Also, there is benefit in ECNL-RL girls having coaches familiar with the ECNL landscape. Also, they are really great coaches focused on developing strong players and teams that can play at higher levels (if you give them the chance).

LOL. Cuckold FC. Your TD is off in Florida this week, doing nothing for your club, and you all want to spin that as a positive.


The TD is not in Florida secretly. Totally disagree that he is doing "nothing" (=0?) for GFR when he is there.

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who coaches ECNL teams at national events and thus knows first hand what players need to be competitive at higher levels? Does none of that translate into the coaching approach/style/strategies that he brings to GFR (not just his teams)? Is there 0 value in him staying current in that direct knowledge?

Is there 0 value for GFR in having a TD who has and continues to build relationships with other coaches at that event, both at the ECNL and college level? No, I'm not implying that those relationships translate directly to GFR teams right now but it does uniquely position him and the club to develop players -- those who want it, which isn't everyone -- in the right direction to be competitive for clubs at that level.

I'd love to hear the argument why that is doing nothing for the club.

I don’t think you have a grasp for the time commitment coaching ECNL teams requires. It’s not like RL, not even close.


This is such a bold and confident assertion. There are plenty of people who understand this from direct experience (the players and parents on all their teams). Are you saying they can't do both? But they've already shown they can do both. Didn't they take an ECNL team to nationals last year while coaching RL teams?

You can do both, as long as one club doesn’t expect a whole hell of a lot from their TD. How much involvement did those two have with the u15-u19 girls the past two years? One recruiting “presentation”? That’s all I saw and they left all the workload on GD and assistant coaches. Don’t even get me started on the boys side…


Ah, moving goalposts again. First you argue that NM and ML can't coach both NL and RL teams. Facts say otherwise as they both have measurable success in doing so with happy players and parents. Then you switch to NM not doing his job because you, personally, didn't see him doing anything on a field or something? Please tell us what your understanding of a TD's job responsibilities are and what NM has not done to your satisfaction in the 1.5 seasons he's been at GFR. I'm sure in doing so you will give him some time credit for dealing with coups, secret futsal clubs, defecting coaches, etc. stemming from issues before his arrival, right?
Nope, not moving goalposts. If you are stupid enough to keep paying these guys big dollars to lead the club, while they spend an inordinate amount of time with Bethesda, knock yourself out.


Oh, a third goalpost move, now it's just that they spend too much time coaching at BSC in your opinion that I'm sure is based on objective and well-defined measurables. Thanks for the laughs this morning.
Measurables, like player retention, coach retention, and college commitments? Those measurables don’t look so hot, do they? But, but, but, Mario!


That can be measured this summer - last year would not be realistic because the turnover of coaches and players could have also been due to the uncertainty that was created last April by the attempted cous.

As for college commitments, no one is expecting a lot (if any) of those at GFR - less then 3% of college commitments come from outside of ECNL/GA/MLS next or international players so it's silly to pretend GFR is sending players to college to play soccer.

Keep lowering the bar. Plenty of GFR players have moved on to play in college in the past and plenty of current players are capable of doing so, but little to no help so far.


"Plenty" - you mean a few? And they were mostly players who either left GFR for other clubs or that RP took credit for when they played one season at GFR but were actually mostly players from Maryland clubs who already had offers from colleges?

GFR does exactly what they should to expose players to the possibility of playing college soccer and takes them to showcases but there is not a full time college recruitment staff like GA/ECNL clubs have nor should there be as it would be a waste of time and money (see : RP's old role)
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seriously, no one has their kid at gfr expecting college recruitment from the club directly - gd claimed he'd be getting all the 09's into college but all of them that actually wanted to play in college left for GA/ENCL years ago.
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I know the current GFR coaches have a much better record getting players to college commits than any announced R(b)FC coaches. New club is still just a vaporware offering. Website and Insta offers poems and koans instead of any real substance.
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Anonymous wrote:I know the current GFR coaches have a much better record getting players to college commits than any announced R(b)FC coaches. New club is still just a vaporware offering. Website and Insta offers poems and koans instead of any real substance.

You must have missed the posts directly above yours. Apparently, nobody at GFR should rightly expect their kid to play in college. So who cares whether or not current GFR coaches have had college commits in the past?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know the current GFR coaches have a much better record getting players to college commits than any announced R(b)FC coaches. New club is still just a vaporware offering. Website and Insta offers poems and koans instead of any real substance.

You must have missed the posts directly above yours. Apparently, nobody at GFR should rightly expect their kid to play in college. So who cares whether or not current GFR coaches have had college commits in the past?


2 things can be true at the same time. The assumption that GFR is a place to play and expect to play in college is a reach but that doesn't mean that there aren't GFR coaches who have had college commits in the past and could potentially help up and coming players.
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