Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What Judge Xinis is banking on is that the government does not want to spend two weeks in discovery. Two big things can happen:

(1) They just make the call and get him back

(2) They spend two weeks creating a public record of their own screw-ups and then get sanctioned and then hope he is still alive and get him back.

God forbid he gets killed in prison, the backlash will be tremendous. It is already brewing.

Not really. With all due respect, she has to tread very carefully so as not to violate separation of powers. The Supreme Court has already admonished the district court (albeit politely). If the district court does it again through pursuing discovery to compel executive actions, that will not be a good look. This entire situation turns on the word "facilitate"

Perhaps the contract with El Salvador allows the US to ask for the return of someone improperly deported there. Even if it does, that may be of little use if the El Salvador government determines that such return would violate itsn own laws

She is allowing discovery to determine what was done to facilitate his return. Failing to answer that as the administration (and you) have done is not a good look, as you say.

She's free to do that, within the bounds of separation of powers.

There is no separation of powers issue in asking information about whether the government is complying with the order. SCOTUS itself told the government to provide that information. Stop being stupid.

Again, she can order discovery, but if the goal is to impose contempt if the US Government doesn't exercise its Article II powers, that's a problem.

Serious question. If the President of El Salvador has refused to release him, what more can the judge order that doesn't violate separation of powers? Perhaps discovery may reveal that the US has a contractual right to ask for his return. But the El Salvador Government has already said no. One of the reasons given by the El Salvador Government is that the man is a member of MS-13, which has been deemed a foreign terrorist organization by the US. Is the judge going to order the President of the US to lift that declaration for him?

The El Salvadoran President said "No"to a question posed by a reporter. The US Government has not yet asked.

If the Us Government (Trump) asks and the El Salvadoran government says "No", that will probably render the entire program unconstitutional because the likelihood of an irremediable error is high. That deprives people of due process. And given that this case is about a "mistake", the government cannot say that the chances of error are so remote that there is no constitutional issue.

I wonder why people are engaging with that PP. he’s not going to change his mind. And his position is so extreme that even the Trump justice department is not arguing it.

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Anonymous wrote:I put my money on he is as already dead and was . probably murdered the day he arrived at Trump's direction.

Me too unfortunately

MD senator Van Hollen is on the way to El Salvador to check up on Abrego Garcia.

His "Home" is El Salvador, no need to "fight"

Right now his home is CECOT, where he was transferred with no due process. Bukele has suspended due process for many of the incarcerated individuals in his jails. And Trump is trying to do so himself, despite the SC 9-0 ruling. Due process is a basic protection everyone in the US has under our constitution.

He is not currently in the USA so due process is not an issue. Your anger should be at Bukele if you do not like how he is treating one of his citizens.

The Supreme Court has no authority over this Man anymore, why is that so hard to understand? You can coulda, woulda, shoulda all day long, but at this point, he is an El Salvadorian in El Salvador. The USA has no jurisdiction no matter what they say/rule here.

DP. We'll see about that.

PS. We both know that if Trump asked Bukele to send back Abrego Garcia, Bukele would do it in a heartbeat.

[Anonymous]

What MAGA fails to understand is that these men could have been detained in the YS and could have had hearings to determine if they were gang members. The president should be sending a jet now to collect him, and wouldn’t have to just release him in the US and wipe their hands of it. He could get a lawyer and the US would have to prove its case. Just like we’ve done in the past with other presidents up till the felon took office this year.

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Anonymous wrote:I put my money on he is as already dead and was . probably murdered the day he arrived at Trump's direction.

Me too unfortunately

MD senator Van Hollen is on the way to El Salvador to check up on Abrego Garcia.

His "Home" is El Salvador, no need to "fight"

No his "home" is not El Salvador, and you know it or else you wouldn't have air quoted it. Look, our Constitution and laws outline how to become a legal immigrant and, if desired, a naturalized citizen. He followed those procedures. Don't like it? Lobby for a change or laws or get a Time Machine and go back and influence the framers of the Constitution. Until then shut it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I put my money on he is as already dead and was . probably murdered the day he arrived at Trump's direction.

Me too unfortunately

MD senator Van Hollen is on the way to El Salvador to check up on Abrego Garcia.

His "Home" is El Salvador, no need to "fight"

No his "home" is not El Salvador, and you know it or else you wouldn't have air quoted it. Look, our Constitution and laws outline how to become a legal immigrant and, if desired, a naturalized citizen. He followed those procedures. Don't like it? Lobby for a change or laws or get a Time Machine and go back and influence the framers of the Constitution. Until then shut it.

Citizen of El Salvador's home is not El Salvador? LOL good one

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I put my money on he is as already dead and was . probably murdered the day he arrived at Trump's direction.

Me too unfortunately

MD senator Van Hollen is on the way to El Salvador to check up on Abrego Garcia.

His "Home" is El Salvador, no need to "fight"

Right now his home is CECOT, where he was transferred with no due process. Bukele has suspended due process for many of the incarcerated individuals in his jails. And Trump is trying to do so himself, despite the SC 9-0 ruling. Due process is a basic protection everyone in the US has under our constitution.

He is not currently in the USA so due process is not an issue. Your anger should be at Bukele if you do not like how he is treating one of his citizens.

The Supreme Court has no authority over this Man anymore, why is that so hard to understand? You can coulda, woulda, shoulda all day long, but at this point, he is an El Salvadorian in El Salvador. The USA has no jurisdiction no matter what they say/rule here.

Maybe the icc can look into it but the US can only declare war on other countries or sanctions. It would be like a judge from another country telling a us citizen in the US to do something or even a foreign government

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I put my money on he is as already dead and was . probably murdered the day he arrived at Trump's direction.

Me too unfortunately

MD senator Van Hollen is on the way to El Salvador to check up on Abrego Garcia.

His "Home" is El Salvador, no need to "fight"

No his "home" is not El Salvador, and you know it or else you wouldn't have air quoted it. Look, our Constitution and laws outline how to become a legal immigrant and, if desired, a naturalized citizen. He followed those procedures. Don't like it? Lobby for a change or laws or get a Time Machine and go back and influence the framers of the Constitution. Until then shut it.

Citizen of El Salvador's home is not El Salvador? LOL good one

His home was in the U.S. His citizenship is El Salvador. Are you this dumb in all facets of life?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I put my money on he is as already dead and was . probably murdered the day he arrived at Trump's direction.

Me too unfortunately

MD senator Van Hollen is on the way to El Salvador to check up on Abrego Garcia.

His "Home" is El Salvador, no need to "fight"

No his "home" is not El Salvador, and you know it or else you wouldn't have air quoted it. Look, our Constitution and laws outline how to become a legal immigrant and, if desired, a naturalized citizen. He followed those procedures. Don't like it? Lobby for a change or laws or get a Time Machine and go back and influence the framers of the Constitution. Until then shut it.

Citizen of El Salvador's home is not El Salvador? LOL good one

His home was in the U.S. His citizenship is El Salvador. Are you this dumb in all facets of life?

He should have gotten a gren card and citizenship if his home is the US. He magically got married to a us citizen when he got caught in the US illegally. They should probably investigate his wife for green card fraud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I put my money on he is as already dead and was . probably murdered the day he arrived at Trump's direction.

Me too unfortunately

MD senator Van Hollen is on the way to El Salvador to check up on Abrego Garcia.

His "Home" is El Salvador, no need to "fight"

No his "home" is not El Salvador, and you know it or else you wouldn't have air quoted it. Look, our Constitution and laws outline how to become a legal immigrant and, if desired, a naturalized citizen. He followed those procedures. Don't like it? Lobby for a change or laws or get a Time Machine and go back and influence the framers of the Constitution. Until then shut it.

Citizen of El Salvador's home is not El Salvador? LOL good one

His home was in the U.S. His citizenship is El Salvador. Are you this dumb in all facets of life?

He should have gotten a gren card and citizenship if his home is the US. He magically got married to a us citizen when he got caught in the US illegally. They should probably investigate his wife for green card fraud.

What are you talking about? His wife is a US citizen. Who is committing "green card fraud"?

[Anonymous]

Why did no one except Chesapeake Today disclose that a domestic violence claimed was filed by his wife in 2021?! Seems highly relevant!

Link to Maryland court docs is in their report.

“Jennifer Vasquez filed for a protective order due to domestic violence from her husband on May 13, 2021, and a final order was issued on June 17, 2021, by Prince George’s County District Court Judge LaKeecia Allen.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What MAGA fails to understand is that these men could have been detained in the YS and could have had hearings to determine if they were gang members.

He already had those two hearings in 2019.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why did no one except Chesapeake Today disclose that a domestic violence claimed was filed by his wife in 2021?! Seems highly relevant!

Link to Maryland court docs is in their report.

“Jennifer Vasquez filed for a protective order due to domestic violence from her husband on May 13, 2021, and a final order was issued on June 17, 2021, by Prince George’s County District Court Judge LaKeecia Allen.”

wife beaters. get rid of him. wish we could do this to all people committing domestic violence

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I put my money on he is as already dead and was . probably murdered the day he arrived at Trump's direction.

Me too unfortunately

MD senator Van Hollen is on the way to El Salvador to check up on Abrego Garcia.

His "Home" is El Salvador, no need to "fight"

No his "home" is not El Salvador, and you know it or else you wouldn't have air quoted it. Look, our Constitution and laws outline how to become a legal immigrant and, if desired, a naturalized citizen. He followed those procedures. Don't like it? Lobby for a change or laws or get a Time Machine and go back and influence the framers of the Constitution. Until then shut it.

Citizen of El Salvador's home is not El Salvador? LOL good one

His home was in the U.S. His citizenship is El Salvador. Are you this dumb in all facets of life?

He should have gotten a gren card and citizenship if his home is the US. He magically got married to a us citizen when he got caught in the US illegally. They should probably investigate his wife for green card fraud.

Didn’t take you all long to go after her. It’s kind of reading like satire though. So ridiculous I can’t even tell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I put my money on he is as already dead and was . probably murdered the day he arrived at Trump's direction.

Me too unfortunately

MD senator Van Hollen is on the way to El Salvador to check up on Abrego Garcia.

His "Home" is El Salvador, no need to "fight"

No his "home" is not El Salvador, and you know it or else you wouldn't have air quoted it. Look, our Constitution and laws outline how to become a legal immigrant and, if desired, a naturalized citizen. He followed those procedures. Don't like it? Lobby for a change or laws or get a Time Machine and go back and influence the framers of the Constitution. Until then shut it.

Citizen of El Salvador's home is not El Salvador? LOL good one

His home was in the U.S. His citizenship is El Salvador. Are you this dumb in all facets of life?

He should have gotten a gren card and citizenship if his home is the US. He magically got married to a us citizen when he got caught in the US illegally. They should probably investigate his wife for green card fraud.

Didn’t take you all long to go after her. It’s kind of reading like satire though. So ridiculous I can’t even tell.

You don’t think it’s bizarre the media never mentioned his domestic violence record? This is about him not her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I put my money on he is as already dead and was . probably murdered the day he arrived at Trump's direction.

Me too unfortunately

MD senator Van Hollen is on the way to El Salvador to check up on Abrego Garcia.

His "Home" is El Salvador, no need to "fight"

Right now his home is CECOT, where he was transferred with no due process. Bukele has suspended due process for many of the incarcerated individuals in his jails. And Trump is trying to do so himself, despite the SC 9-0 ruling. Due process is a basic protection everyone in the US has under our constitution.

He is not currently in the USA so due process is not an issue. Your anger should be at Bukele if you do not like how he is treating one of his citizens.

The Supreme Court has no authority over this Man anymore, why is that so hard to understand? You can coulda, woulda, shoulda all day long, but at this point, he is an El Salvadorian in El Salvador. The USA has no jurisdiction no matter what they say/rule here.

DP. We'll see about that.

PS. We both know that if Trump asked Bukele to send back Abrego Garcia, Bukele would do it in a heartbeat.

What is the end game here? His removal order is still in place, he was denied asylum and entered illegally. He would get deported just to a different country. There is no scenario where he is back living in MD again. The best scenario is that Trump advocates for his release from prison but he stays in ES, where the Barrio gang he once feared has been wiped out.