Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

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Love those silver spring and Wheaton “group homes” with 25+ adults crammed in a rental house and 10 old trucks and Hondas parked ON the grassy front yard and on the street in front of 7+ homes.

Good times.

It sounds like you live in a crappy neighborhood. You should have done better in school, and you'd be able to buy a better home. It all goes back to decisions you made long ago. Bootstraps.

Just driving through to the ecnl soccerplex practices. Unsafe eyesore and bad for everyone.

Agree with the PP’s:
Abolish citizenship by birth;
Require e-verify;
Close the border to illegals/ phony asylum cases;
10% fee to govt on remittances;
Deport all illegal criminals, identity frauds, tax fraud, etc.

You forgot heavily fining and jailing the employers.

Warning, then fine, then cease & desist.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what also will be expensive? The price of food and labor if illegal immigrants are deported. Good luck with getting cheap produce or paying your housekeeper and nanny on the cheap. And you better start saving if you want anything done on your house.

Hope.

Half of the illegals are not working many hours a week.

And sorry, no one anywhere is paying an illiterate, uneducated unskilled illegal in migrant to care for a baby, toddler or child or drive them around or housekeep their homes.
They don’t even know how to operate an oven properly. And forget the thermostats even in the car. Or any instructions. The lost in translations of having someone with limited English proficiency is NOT worth it. What do you think they’d get paid for that anyhow?

Incompetent is incompetent. They grew up in dirt floor shack not even knowing what road rules were, how insurance or preventative care works, how any developed country appliance works.

And you think families are going to turn over their vehicles, lawn gear, kitchens and children to them?!!?

lol

Wake up

Actually, they do.

Also, a good number of the illegal border crossers are Chinese. But, I guess those are the “good” immigrants and you don’t mind them.

DP. It is true that a LOT of liberal families employ nannies who hardly speak a word of English and can't drive. I can't imagine turning my children over to someone like that, regardless of what country they're from. The PP's description was spot on.

As for Chinese border crossers - they're illegal immigrants too. Not sure where you're getting the "good immigrants" description from. Illegal is illegal.

Ah yes it’s the liberals hiring all the illegals. Not the small business owners and farmers who voted for Trump. Nope, def. not!

It's certainly not ALL small business owners and farmers, as people like you love to claim. You simply can't deny how many liberals employ illegal immigrants to care for their children, clean their homes, landscape their yards, etc. No doubt, that's why you're so upset at the idea of deportation. Who will raise your kids and clean your toilets??

So you don’t want people making generalizations about employing illegals but you are making generalizations about liberals? And why are you equating rich with liberal? You think all those people living in McMansions are liberal? The truth is most restaurants do employ undocumented workers. As do many farmers. And construction companies. Keep telling yourself it’s just the libs who will be impacted. You are delulu.

My sister helped an illegal Colombian from Medellin last year. She managed to get him housing but really had a tough time getting him a job without a social security number. The brewery hired him for 3 days (legal) and paid him cash. Day 4 they told her they can't keep him on due to the law but they want him back once he has a social security number. The independently owned convenience store hired him on for 3 days (legal) and paid cash. Day 4 they called my sister and said they could not keep him on since he did not have a social security number but they want him back once he got his social.
She took around to around 20 independently owned restaurants. No one would hire as no social security number.
She finally found a restaurant that would take him on.

Our experience was that it was not easy to get an illegal a job. Most small business owners follow the law.

I suspect many that you assume are illegal workers are actually legal workers.

He now has his social security number. It takes 6 months in the US for an illegal to get a social security number. This allows an illegal to be legally employed in the US.

How cool! Spread the word!!

So glad we gift illegal immigrants an ID number so they can work here a bit on the books.

What other cool countries also do this?!?

It’s so they can pay taxes nimwit. Undocumented immigrants pay $96B a year in state and federal taxes. They need a SSN to do that. Yet, your white plumber is probably not reporting all his earnings to the IRS.

My brother is a "white plumber" who has trained and employed 16 plumbers , 13 of whom are Hispanic, and is helping all of them through their 4 year programs to become master plumbers. He pays Federal taxes their contributions to FICA and health insurance. In additon, every year on Thomas Crapper's birthday, he invites the community to a party for the man who relieved all of us.

So a big FU to you who thinks everyone cheats on their taxes like you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, never mind the fact that a federal study spike by the Trump administration showed that illegal immigrants contribute more than $63 billion more than they cost.

That's likely because they are contributing but cannot access any benefits from it. No thanks to exploitation being baked into our economy. They should put all that useful work into making their home countries liveable.

Many of the first generation Hispanic workers I know, have been sending money to Central America for decades and many return to their countries between December and February where they build houses for their future retirement. Most of them don't want to stay in the US when they get older but go back to their countries where they can do very well with a house and enough money to live in a less expensive country. It is their kids who will stay in the states and pay into and collect Social Security I am happy that I am working now with second generation kids who have created companies from their parents' customers or who have gone on to other careers after following the lead of their hard working parents.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what also will be expensive? The price of food and labor if illegal immigrants are deported. Good luck with getting cheap produce or paying your housekeeper and nanny on the cheap. And you better start saving if you want anything done on your house.

Hope.

Half of the illegals are not working many hours a week.

And sorry, no one anywhere is paying an illiterate, uneducated unskilled illegal in migrant to care for a baby, toddler or child or drive them around or housekeep their homes.
They don’t even know how to operate an oven properly. And forget the thermostats even in the car. Or any instructions. The lost in translations of having someone with limited English proficiency is NOT worth it. What do you think they’d get paid for that anyhow?

Incompetent is incompetent. They grew up in dirt floor shack not even knowing what road rules were, how insurance or preventative care works, how any developed country appliance works.

And you think families are going to turn over their vehicles, lawn gear, kitchens and children to them?!!?

lol

Wake up

Actually, they do.

Also, a good number of the illegal border crossers are Chinese. But, I guess those are the “good” immigrants and you don’t mind them.

DP. It is true that a LOT of liberal families employ nannies who hardly speak a word of English and can't drive. I can't imagine turning my children over to someone like that, regardless of what country they're from. The PP's description was spot on.

As for Chinese border crossers - they're illegal immigrants too. Not sure where you're getting the "good immigrants" description from. Illegal is illegal.

Ah yes it’s the liberals hiring all the illegals. Not the small business owners and farmers who voted for Trump. Nope, def. not!

It's certainly not ALL small business owners and farmers, as people like you love to claim. You simply can't deny how many liberals employ illegal immigrants to care for their children, clean their homes, landscape their yards, etc. No doubt, that's why you're so upset at the idea of deportation. Who will raise your kids and clean your toilets??

So you don’t want people making generalizations about employing illegals but you are making generalizations about liberals? And why are you equating rich with liberal? You think all those people living in McMansions are liberal? The truth is most restaurants do employ undocumented workers. As do many farmers. And construction companies. Keep telling yourself it’s just the libs who will be impacted. You are delulu.

My sister helped an illegal Colombian from Medellin last year. She managed to get him housing but really had a tough time getting him a job without a social security number. The brewery hired him for 3 days (legal) and paid him cash. Day 4 they told her they can't keep him on due to the law but they want him back once he has a social security number. The independently owned convenience store hired him on for 3 days (legal) and paid cash. Day 4 they called my sister and said they could not keep him on since he did not have a social security number but they want him back once he got his social.
She took around to around 20 independently owned restaurants. No one would hire as no social security number.
She finally found a restaurant that would take him on.

Our experience was that it was not easy to get an illegal a job. Most small business owners follow the law.

I suspect many that you assume are illegal workers are actually legal workers.

He now has his social security number. It takes 6 months in the US for an illegal to get a social security number. This allows an illegal to be legally employed in the US.

How cool! Spread the word!!

So glad we gift illegal immigrants an ID number so they can work here a bit on the books.

What other cool countries also do this?!?

It’s so they can pay taxes nimwit. Undocumented immigrants pay $96B a year in state and federal taxes. They need a SSN to do that. Yet, your white plumber is probably not reporting all his earnings to the IRS.

My brother is a "white plumber" who has trained and employed 16 plumbers , 13 of whom are Hispanic, and is helping all of them through their 4 year programs to become master plumbers. He pays Federal taxes their contributions to FICA and health insurance. In additon, every year on Thomas Crapper's birthday, he invites the community to a party for the man who relieved all of us.

So a big FU to you who thinks everyone cheats on their taxes like you.

If you think illegal aliens are net contributors on taxes, you probably believe COVID started in a wet market.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Love those silver spring and Wheaton “group homes” with 25+ adults crammed in a rental house and 10 old trucks and Hondas parked ON the grassy front yard and on the street in front of 7+ homes.

Good times.

It sounds like you live in a crappy neighborhood. You should have done better in school, and you'd be able to buy a better home. It all goes back to decisions you made long ago. Bootstraps.

Just driving through to the ecnl soccerplex practices. Unsafe eyesore and bad for everyone.

Agree with the PP’s:
Abolish citizenship by birth;
Require e-verify;
Close the border to illegals/ phony asylum cases;
10% fee to govt on remittances;
Deport all illegal criminals, identity frauds, tax fraud, etc.

You forgot heavily fining and jailing the employers.

I think the bolded is key to this. They come because of demand. Punish the people who are looking the other way, and demand for cheap labor will drop. However, be prepared for a rise in prices due to US labor as that demand drops.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Love those silver spring and Wheaton “group homes” with 25+ adults crammed in a rental house and 10 old trucks and Hondas parked ON the grassy front yard and on the street in front of 7+ homes.

Good times.

It sounds like you live in a crappy neighborhood. You should have done better in school, and you'd be able to buy a better home. It all goes back to decisions you made long ago. Bootstraps.

Just driving through to the ecnl soccerplex practices. Unsafe eyesore and bad for everyone.

Agree with the PP’s:
Abolish citizenship by birth;
Require e-verify;
Close the border to illegals/ phony asylum cases;
10% fee to govt on remittances;
Deport all illegal criminals, identity frauds, tax fraud, etc.

Vacant homes and businesses are so much better.

They wouldn’t stay vacant long. Other working class people will move in. Interesting historical fact but that is what happened in San Francisco when Japanese internment happened, African American workers during the great migration took over where the Japanese had left.

Not you trying to make the forcible detainment of US citizens sound beneficial?
But let's expound upon your premise.
Your supposed benefit/solution heightened racial tensions that we are still seeing the impact from today.

And we haven't even gotten to the reasons The Great Migration happened in the first place.

I apologize if I made it sound like a positive. I was trying to give historical context to the situation. I don’t think it is a good thing at all but the truth is that people will take advantage of other people’s demise. Think of the people that got rich off of buying foreclosed homes in 2008.

You're still spinning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Love those silver spring and Wheaton “group homes” with 25+ adults crammed in a rental house and 10 old trucks and Hondas parked ON the grassy front yard and on the street in front of 7+ homes.

Good times.

It sounds like you live in a crappy neighborhood. You should have done better in school, and you'd be able to buy a better home. It all goes back to decisions you made long ago. Bootstraps.

Just driving through to the ecnl soccerplex practices. Unsafe eyesore and bad for everyone.

Agree with the PP’s:
Abolish citizenship by birth;
Require e-verify;
Close the border to illegals/ phony asylum cases;
10% fee to govt on remittances;
Deport all illegal criminals, identity frauds, tax fraud, etc.

You forgot heavily fining and jailing the employers.

Warning, then fine, then cease & desist.

No warnings necessary. It isn't as if this issue has suddenly cropped up or that hiring undocumented immigrants (those without visas permitting them to work) hasn't been illegal forever.

And what's cease and desist? Just jail the people who ignore the laws of this country with regard to employing people who are not so entitled. 1 year per serson. Sentences to run consecutively.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, my brother-in-law who voted for this will likely be deployed stateside to round up his neighbors

Did he think that wouldn't happen?

[Anonymous]

It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/

Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/

Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.

I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/

Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.

Can we drop the framing that says Dems (or anyone) *want* illegal immigration? That's always going to be a fact of life. The issue is how we deal with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/

Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.

They would have better off just abandoning the border as it was when Biden was sworn in and not done anything at all. Instead he actively allowed people in. Biden reversed everything Trump did on his very first day in office then allowed millions to overrun the border for years. It was only this year that he reigned things in because of the election.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/

Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.

Can we drop the framing that says Dems (or anyone) *want* illegal immigration? That's always going to be a fact of life. The issue is how we deal with it.

LEts support S.4529 - Mandatory E-Verify Act of 2024!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/

Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.

I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

Democrats say they don't want illegal aliens, but they won't deport them and won't stop them at the border. Democrats' actions say loud and clear that Dems want illegal aliens. Same goes for elected Republicans, who are too dumb to elect people to represent their interests.