Bill Maher explains the Middle East to Gen Z: Can anyone really dispute the facts?

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:Joe Biden has kind of, sort of, had enough:

So after the election Biden will "reassess" military assistance. Until then we will be supplying them with everything we've got.

If I were Biden, I would sanction Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, at minimum, as well as expanding the sanctions the U.S. recently applied to Hilltop Youth and other groups, and would tie arms sales to a demand that Israel starts treating Jewish terorrist groups in the West Bank the same way it treats Hamas and Islamic Jihad there. Would also have made the link between humanitarian assistance and military aid in October 2023, not October 2024.

The UK is publicly thinking about sanctioning those two. The deliberate attacks on the UN Peacekeepers can't have helped.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Joe Biden has kind of, sort of, had enough:

So after the election Biden will "reassess" military assistance. Until then we will be supplying them with everything we've got.

If I were Biden, I would sanction Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, at minimum, as well as expanding the sanctions the U.S. recently applied to Hilltop Youth and other groups, and would tie arms sales to a demand that Israel starts treating Jewish terorrist groups in the West Bank the same way it treats Hamas and Islamic Jihad there. Would also have made the link between humanitarian assistance and military aid in October 2023, not October 2024.

The UK is publicly thinking about sanctioning those two. The deliberate attacks on the UN Peacekeepers can't have helped.

True, though that fell outside those idiots' portfolios ("internal security" and finance). I honestly don't care how sanctions on them are justified if they're imposed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Joe Biden has kind of, sort of, had enough:

So after the election Biden will "reassess" military assistance. Until then we will be supplying them with everything we've got.

If I were Biden, I would sanction Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, at minimum, as well as expanding the sanctions the U.S. recently applied to Hilltop Youth and other groups, and would tie arms sales to a demand that Israel starts treating Jewish terorrist groups in the West Bank the same way it treats Hamas and Islamic Jihad there. Would also have made the link between humanitarian assistance and military aid in October 2023, not October 2024.

The UK is publicly thinking about sanctioning those two. The deliberate attacks on the UN Peacekeepers can't have helped.

True, though that fell outside those idiots' portfolios ("internal security" and finance). I honestly don't care how sanctions on them are justified if they're imposed.

I look forward to the day when we can label all terrorists either “terrorists” or “idiots”, without this game of downplaying the sheer, unmitigated evil of one side of the equation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Joe Biden has kind of, sort of, had enough:

So after the election Biden will "reassess" military assistance. Until then we will be supplying them with everything we've got.

If I were Biden, I would sanction Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, at minimum, as well as expanding the sanctions the U.S. recently applied to Hilltop Youth and other groups, and would tie arms sales to a demand that Israel starts treating Jewish terorrist groups in the West Bank the same way it treats Hamas and Islamic Jihad there. Would also have made the link between humanitarian assistance and military aid in October 2023, not October 2024.

The UK is publicly thinking about sanctioning those two. The deliberate attacks on the UN Peacekeepers can't have helped.

True, though that fell outside those idiots' portfolios ("internal security" and finance). I honestly don't care how sanctions on them are justified if they're imposed.

I look forward to the day when we can label all terrorists either “terrorists” or “idiots”, without this game of downplaying the sheer, unmitigated evil of one side of the equation.

+100

Same goes for terrorist sympathizers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Joe Biden has kind of, sort of, had enough:

So after the election Biden will "reassess" military assistance. Until then we will be supplying them with everything we've got.

If I were Biden, I would sanction Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, at minimum, as well as expanding the sanctions the U.S. recently applied to Hilltop Youth and other groups, and would tie arms sales to a demand that Israel starts treating Jewish terorrist groups in the West Bank the same way it treats Hamas and Islamic Jihad there. Would also have made the link between humanitarian assistance and military aid in October 2023, not October 2024.

The UK is publicly thinking about sanctioning those two. The deliberate attacks on the UN Peacekeepers can't have helped.

True, though that fell outside those idiots' portfolios ("internal security" and finance). I honestly don't care how sanctions on them are justified if they're imposed.

I look forward to the day when we can label all terrorists either “terrorists” or “idiots”, without this game of downplaying the sheer, unmitigated evil of one side of the equation.

Ben-Gvir has been both an idiot and a terrorist since he was a teenager, when he was part of a mob that threatened to kill Rabin shortly before another terrorist actually did it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Joe Biden has kind of, sort of, had enough:

So after the election Biden will "reassess" military assistance. Until then we will be supplying them with everything we've got.

If I were Biden, I would sanction Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, at minimum, as well as expanding the sanctions the U.S. recently applied to Hilltop Youth and other groups, and would tie arms sales to a demand that Israel starts treating Jewish terorrist groups in the West Bank the same way it treats Hamas and Islamic Jihad there. Would also have made the link between humanitarian assistance and military aid in October 2023, not October 2024.

The UK is publicly thinking about sanctioning those two. The deliberate attacks on the UN Peacekeepers can't have helped.

True, though that fell outside those idiots' portfolios ("internal security" and finance). I honestly don't care how sanctions on them are justified if they're imposed.

I look forward to the day when we can label all terrorists either “terrorists” or “idiots”, without this game of downplaying the sheer, unmitigated evil of one side of the equation.

+100

Same goes for terrorist sympathizers

You misspelled Zionists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why should anyone take Maher’s views and opinions seriously when he has Jewish ancestry and he’s petrified of even having a Palestinian guest on his show to address the lies he spews regarding the conflict?

Are we supposed to think this guy is impartial? He’s clearly not, so why do we care what he has to say again?

I guess we shouldn't take Noam Chomsky's and Bernie Sanders's views seriously either then.

[Anonymous]

Don't blame us for Bill Maher, who was raised Catholic and didn't even realize his mom was Jewish until he was in high school. Unless you're saying anyone with Jewish DNA is automatically biased on the Middle East, whatever Maher's many problems are have nothing to do with whether his ancestors were Jews.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should anyone take Maher’s views and opinions seriously when he has Jewish ancestry and he’s petrified of even having a Palestinian guest on his show to address the lies he spews regarding the conflict?

Are we supposed to think this guy is impartial? He’s clearly not, so why do we care what he has to say again?

I guess we shouldn't take Noam Chomsky's and Bernie Sanders's views seriously either then.

When have Chomsky or Sanders avoided debate? Do you hear how dumb you are?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't blame us for Bill Maher, who was raised Catholic and didn't even realize his mom was Jewish until he was in high school. Unless you're saying anyone with Jewish DNA is automatically biased on the Middle East, whatever Maher's many problems are have nothing to do with whether his ancestors were Jews.

lol he has a deed to a few square blocks of Jerusalem(address TBD) because you know he is Jewish. There is no way to justify Israel without “genetic” memory of Jews according to Jews.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't blame us for Bill Maher, who was raised Catholic and didn't even realize his mom was Jewish until he was in high school. Unless you're saying anyone with Jewish DNA is automatically biased on the Middle East, whatever Maher's many problems are have nothing to do with whether his ancestors were Jews.

lol he has a deed to a few square blocks of Jerusalem(address TBD) because you know he is Jewish. There is no way to justify Israel without “genetic” memory of Jews according to Jews.

Ah, okay, so basically no Jews are allowed to weigh in on any of this because we're automatically suspect. Got it. I think Maher is an idiot, and I think much worse than that of the people running Israel's government, its war, and its illegal settlements in the West Bank, but I suppose that since I'd be eligible for citizenship tomorrow if for some ungodly reason I wanted it, that's not relevant. (It's citizenship, not a deed of land, that Jews are eligible for, btw.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't blame us for Bill Maher, who was raised Catholic and didn't even realize his mom was Jewish until he was in high school. Unless you're saying anyone with Jewish DNA is automatically biased on the Middle East, whatever Maher's many problems are have nothing to do with whether his ancestors were Jews.

lol he has a deed to a few square blocks of Jerusalem(address TBD) because you know he is Jewish. There is no way to justify Israel without “genetic” memory of Jews according to Jews.

Ah, okay, so basically no Jews are allowed to weigh in on any of this because we're automatically suspect. Got it. I think Maher is an idiot, and I think much worse than that of the people running Israel's government, its war, and its illegal settlements in the West Bank, but I suppose that since I'd be eligible for citizenship tomorrow if for some ungodly reason I wanted it, that's not relevant. (It's citizenship, not a deed of land, that Jews are eligible for, btw.)

Wait what about the rationale for seizing all the Palestinian land 75 year ago? Isn’t all the land in Palestine owned by Jews as a birth right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't blame us for Bill Maher, who was raised Catholic and didn't even realize his mom was Jewish until he was in high school. Unless you're saying anyone with Jewish DNA is automatically biased on the Middle East, whatever Maher's many problems are have nothing to do with whether his ancestors were Jews.

lol he has a deed to a few square blocks of Jerusalem(address TBD) because you know he is Jewish. There is no way to justify Israel without “genetic” memory of Jews according to Jews.

Ah, okay, so basically no Jews are allowed to weigh in on any of this because we're automatically suspect. Got it. I think Maher is an idiot, and I think much worse than that of the people running Israel's government, its war, and its illegal settlements in the West Bank, but I suppose that since I'd be eligible for citizenship tomorrow if for some ungodly reason I wanted it, that's not relevant. (It's citizenship, not a deed of land, that Jews are eligible for, btw.)

I thought your response was fine, and then I cringed when I got to your use of the term citizenship - matter-of-fact use with the full and complete knowledge that millions of indigenous people are deprived of that privilege because their version of the fairytale isn’t the exact same one you subscribe to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should anyone take Maher’s views and opinions seriously when he has Jewish ancestry and he’s petrified of even having a Palestinian guest on his show to address the lies he spews regarding the conflict?

Are we supposed to think this guy is impartial? He’s clearly not, so why do we care what he has to say again?

I guess we shouldn't take Noam Chomsky's and Bernie Sanders's views seriously either then.

I don’t know what the PP is, but I’m the Palestinian person who’s been commenting on this thread and I completely disagree regarding Jewish ancestry being why Bill Maher is the way that he is and I would not use that for anyone because frankly, the people who I admire the most speaking out about this are Jewish and the most repugnant, are not.

I don’t like anyone using someone’s religion as a cudgel for their view. This is about Zionism and if you’re one of these people trying to conflate that with Judaism, it’s you who hurts Jewish people the most, not me.

I was in tears watching all of those Jewish people at the stock exchange protesting. How anyone could think I hate people for being Jewish because they themselves are such rabid Zionists trying to defend the slaughter of my people for 76 years using their own hate, racism and bigotry the way Maher has, is beyond me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should anyone take Maher’s views and opinions seriously when he has Jewish ancestry and he’s petrified of even having a Palestinian guest on his show to address the lies he spews regarding the conflict?

Are we supposed to think this guy is impartial? He’s clearly not, so why do we care what he has to say again?

I guess we shouldn't take Noam Chomsky's and Bernie Sanders's views seriously either then.

I don’t know what the PP is, but I’m the Palestinian person who’s been commenting on this thread and I completely disagree regarding Jewish ancestry being why Bill Maher is the way that he is and I would not use that for anyone because frankly, the people who I admire the most speaking out about this are Jewish and the most repugnant, are not.

I don’t like anyone using someone’s religion as a cudgel for their view. This is about Zionism and if you’re one of these people trying to conflate that with Judaism, it’s you who hurts Jewish people the most, not me.

I was in tears watching all of those Jewish people at the stock exchange protesting. How anyone could think I hate people for being Jewish because they themselves are such rabid Zionists trying to defend the slaughter of my people for 76 years using their own hate, racism and bigotry the way Maher has, is beyond me.

Yes, this. But my son is a news editor on his school paper and just told me there is a student opinion piece that will run in the next issue that is trying to make the case that using the term "Zionist" is antisemitic which appears to me another angle for stirring up a hornets nest of antisemitism accusations.