Fight btw BCC & WJ students after game @ 8:30 Friday night

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Anonymous wrote:I am not convinced that parents are primarily to blame. Several have pointed the finger at lackadaisical parenting skills as a reason for the melee last night. These students are up against a culture that promotes entitlement and disrespect for authority that has been fueled by the pandemic-related events of 2020-2022.

A culture of entitlement and disrespect for authority starts at home. This has nothing to do with the pandemic and kids have been back in school for over two years now. Stop blaming the pandemic for bad parenting. Kids don't get this way overnight. This was many years in the doing, prior to covid and they know they can do it as there is no supervision or consequences at home. MCPS should require a parent or legal guardian to attend these games or close them to the public if students cannot behave without that level of supervision. But, even so, this happened off MCPS property so those "kids" were under the supervision of their parents so ultimately the parents failed somewhere and this didn't just happen 3 years ago. Plenty of kids DON'T behave this way and also went through the pandemic.

Your post is so opinionated and judgmental. Any experienced parent, or wise adult in general, knows that of course parenting matters but it's not everything. Kids are born with certain genetics that you can't always control. Or there are circumstances that you can't control. Experiences that they go through that you can't control. Plenty of well parented kids grow up to have many issues. And plenty of poorly parented kids grow up to be perfectly well adjusted and successful.

We all wish we could point the finger at someone for everything, but the reality is that you can't.

You really want to argue all of those kids are special needs and cannot be controlled. Then they should be in a residential program, like RICA or another program if the parents cannot handle them. Bottomline is where were the parents. They weren't supervising their kids after the football game and the kids violently attacked another. When your kids dress in all black and put masks over their faces, as a parent, that's not a red flag to you?

These are high school kids. Let's say, ages 14-18. Do you think it's inappropriate for kids aged 14-18 to be out in downtown Bethesda on a Friday evening without a parent?

I would not let my 14 year old free roam. 16-18 if they were well behaved sure. But, I expect to know exactly where they are and what they are doing. A 14 year old should not be freely roaming. This is why these things are happening. And, as a parent, if my kid was dressed in all black carrying a face mask common sense is something is seriously off and going to happen.

What exactly constitutes "freely roaming"? Would you expect your kid to text you, "outside the metro station committing assault"? Do you think the kids left home with their ski masks on?

I expect them to text me if there is a change of plans. I would never ever let my kid hang out at a place like that as I know what happens there. This isn't anything new. It was happening 25-40 years ago and still is. People acting shocked shouldn't be. This has always been a rough school hidden by the wealth of Chevy Chase and Bethesda.

You don't monitor what clothing your kids go out in or where they are? This is why this stuff is happening. Until they are 18 and graduated high school they are your responsibility.

Jesus, how old are you? Forty years ago? Ok, 40 years ago I was in college. But Bethesda was a cement manufacturing, blue collar town back then. This started to radically change probably 25 or 30 years ago. And with 1/2 of the school coming from Chevy Chase - well, that part was always upscale.

Chevy Chase was not always upscale, it was a nicer area but not particularly wealthy like it is now. Same with Bethesda.

Ummm…I think you must be quite privileged. The houses in CC (I’m speaking of Newlands, etc) were summer homes for the wealthy in the 19th century.

Check your privilege. They were not that expensive in the 70 and 80’s. They were small old houses that needed a lot of work.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not convinced that parents are primarily to blame. Several have pointed the finger at lackadaisical parenting skills as a reason for the melee last night. These students are up against a culture that promotes entitlement and disrespect for authority that has been fueled by the pandemic-related events of 2020-2022.

A culture of entitlement and disrespect for authority starts at home. This has nothing to do with the pandemic and kids have been back in school for over two years now. Stop blaming the pandemic for bad parenting. Kids don't get this way overnight. This was many years in the doing, prior to covid and they know they can do it as there is no supervision or consequences at home. MCPS should require a parent or legal guardian to attend these games or close them to the public if students cannot behave without that level of supervision. But, even so, this happened off MCPS property so those "kids" were under the supervision of their parents so ultimately the parents failed somewhere and this didn't just happen 3 years ago. Plenty of kids DON'T behave this way and also went through the pandemic.

Your post is so opinionated and judgmental. Any experienced parent, or wise adult in general, knows that of course parenting matters but it's not everything. Kids are born with certain genetics that you can't always control. Or there are circumstances that you can't control. Experiences that they go through that you can't control. Plenty of well parented kids grow up to have many issues. And plenty of poorly parented kids grow up to be perfectly well adjusted and successful.

We all wish we could point the finger at someone for everything, but the reality is that you can't.

You really want to argue all of those kids are special needs and cannot be controlled. Then they should be in a residential program, like RICA or another program if the parents cannot handle them. Bottomline is where were the parents. They weren't supervising their kids after the football game and the kids violently attacked another. When your kids dress in all black and put masks over their faces, as a parent, that's not a red flag to you?

These are high school kids. Let's say, ages 14-18. Do you think it's inappropriate for kids aged 14-18 to be out in downtown Bethesda on a Friday evening without a parent?

I would not let my 14 year old free roam. 16-18 if they were well behaved sure. But, I expect to know exactly where they are and what they are doing. A 14 year old should not be freely roaming. This is why these things are happening. And, as a parent, if my kid was dressed in all black carrying a face mask common sense is something is seriously off and going to happen.

What exactly constitutes "freely roaming"? Would you expect your kid to text you, "outside the metro station committing assault"? Do you think the kids left home with their ski masks on?

I expect them to text me if there is a change of plans. I would never ever let my kid hang out at a place like that as I know what happens there. This isn't anything new. It was happening 25-40 years ago and still is. People acting shocked shouldn't be. This has always been a rough school hidden by the wealth of Chevy Chase and Bethesda.

You don't monitor what clothing your kids go out in or where they are? This is why this stuff is happening. Until they are 18 and graduated high school they are your responsibility.

Meaning, downtown Bethesda?

Considering BCC (and WJ) students have open lunch. This is extra ridiculous.

Open lunch for all high school students is indeed ridiculous. You should have to earn the privilege.

The privilege of eating lunch? And how do you think school staff should enforce this, and do you think this is the best use of their time?

The privilege of eating lunch anywhere other than a monitored cafeteria or classroom setting--yes.

They don't all fit in the cafeteria. And teachers are not lunch monitors.

I've had duties to monitor lunch time and breakfasts throughout my career in both private and public school education. I've also stood in the middle of the road in the rain with an umbrella helping students cross a 2 lane highway. When you work in rural and inner city settings, you do what's needed.

Your experience is not relevant to MCPS, where teachers have a contract. Though I'm sorry your employers did not have the will and/or resources to treat you like a professional.

Actually, we wanted to help our students stay out of trouble and succeed. I have worked for some incredibly amazing principals who performed those duties along with us (and took on the task of monitoring bathrooms). I can promise you our students were not kicking other kids in the head. Very few were smoking on campus, keeping weapons in their bookbags, using drugs, or having sex in the bathrooms. They were well run schools with dedicated professionals as leaders.

It doesn’t sound like pp is the problem. Perhaps the problem is union contracts that too tightly define what teachers may and may not do.

Are you kidding? I’m a teacher and my day is already exhausting. I already have a few kids who eat lunch in my classroom but no way am I monitoring lunch unless I’m paid extra for it. And not just a measly 50 bucks either. High school teaching these days is no picnic.

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Anonymous wrote:Boys in fatherless homes do less well in life. They have plenty to rage about, including their single mothers with little if any authority, and her various boyfriends.

Absentee/ part time fathers can never be equal to a strong, loving and disciplined father in the home.

Kids who grow up with parents who are judgmental, angry and like to criticize other families tend to do very poorly when they grow up. I feel so bad for kids who have parents like the one above, they are going to grow up so messed up. It's really sad that they don't have a loving mother who demonstrates respect for other people and understanding of different circumstances.

This is a parenting issue regardless of the home situation. There were at least a dozen, if not more kids involved and given that there would be multiple family situations, all of which the parents failed to supervise and discipline their kids. MCPS should require parents to attend the football games or at least require the parents to pick them up if the kids cannot act responsibly. These incidents are happening far to frequently and if they are off MCPS property, MCPS cannot be blamed and parents need to be held accountable for their kids behaviors.

For all you know, the kids involved were never even actually at the game.

That is very true, and if so, then it really has nothing to do with MCPS. Especially given the timing.

If they are MCPS students harming other MCPS students, even if it’s outside of school grounds, it has to do with MCPS.

Yes. Why can’t MCPS adopt the same rules that the private schools follow, which is basically if you do anything anytime anywhere while you are a student at our school, and it brings dishonor to the school, you risk expulsion.

Because private schools can choose their students and set conditions on being a student. Public schools can't deny providing education to a child for any reason.

That needs to change. If prisoners can earn college degrees in jail, criminal HS students can get their GEDs.

Juveniles for the most part can't be incarcerted in MD, thanks to youth criminal justice reform passed 2 years ago.

There used to be a separate school (Twain) for these troubled students, but MCPS shut it down in 2008:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/montgomery-to-close-full-day-program-for-emotionally-troubled-middle-high-schoolers

When I went to MCPS many ages ago, our taunt to each other was if you did something really bad, you'd end up in Twain.

Why did MCPS shut down Twain?
Don’t they need an option for kids who get expelled from regular public school

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Anonymous wrote:Boys in fatherless homes do less well in life. They have plenty to rage about, including their single mothers with little if any authority, and her various boyfriends.

Absentee/ part time fathers can never be equal to a strong, loving and disciplined father in the home.

Kids who grow up with parents who are judgmental, angry and like to criticize other families tend to do very poorly when they grow up. I feel so bad for kids who have parents like the one above, they are going to grow up so messed up. It's really sad that they don't have a loving mother who demonstrates respect for other people and understanding of different circumstances.

This is a parenting issue regardless of the home situation. There were at least a dozen, if not more kids involved and given that there would be multiple family situations, all of which the parents failed to supervise and discipline their kids. MCPS should require parents to attend the football games or at least require the parents to pick them up if the kids cannot act responsibly. These incidents are happening far to frequently and if they are off MCPS property, MCPS cannot be blamed and parents need to be held accountable for their kids behaviors.

For all you know, the kids involved were never even actually at the game.

That is very true, and if so, then it really has nothing to do with MCPS. Especially given the timing.

If they are MCPS students harming other MCPS students, even if it’s outside of school grounds, it has to do with MCPS.

Yes. Why can’t MCPS adopt the same rules that the private schools follow, which is basically if you do anything anytime anywhere while you are a student at our school, and it brings dishonor to the school, you risk expulsion.

Because private schools can choose their students and set conditions on being a student. Public schools can't deny providing education to a child for any reason.

That needs to change. If prisoners can earn college degrees in jail, criminal HS students can get their GEDs.

Juveniles for the most part can't be incarcerted in MD, thanks to youth criminal justice reform passed 2 years ago.

There used to be a separate school (Twain) for these troubled students, but MCPS shut it down in 2008:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/montgomery-to-close-full-day-program-for-emotionally-troubled-middle-high-schoolers

When I went to MCPS many ages ago, our taunt to each other was if you did something really bad, you'd end up in Twain.

Why did MCPS shut down Twain?
Don’t they need an option for kids who get expelled from regular public school

State shut down noyes too.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not convinced that parents are primarily to blame. Several have pointed the finger at lackadaisical parenting skills as a reason for the melee last night. These students are up against a culture that promotes entitlement and disrespect for authority that has been fueled by the pandemic-related events of 2020-2022.

A culture of entitlement and disrespect for authority starts at home. This has nothing to do with the pandemic and kids have been back in school for over two years now. Stop blaming the pandemic for bad parenting. Kids don't get this way overnight. This was many years in the doing, prior to covid and they know they can do it as there is no supervision or consequences at home. MCPS should require a parent or legal guardian to attend these games or close them to the public if students cannot behave without that level of supervision. But, even so, this happened off MCPS property so those "kids" were under the supervision of their parents so ultimately the parents failed somewhere and this didn't just happen 3 years ago. Plenty of kids DON'T behave this way and also went through the pandemic.

Your post is so opinionated and judgmental. Any experienced parent, or wise adult in general, knows that of course parenting matters but it's not everything. Kids are born with certain genetics that you can't always control. Or there are circumstances that you can't control. Experiences that they go through that you can't control. Plenty of well parented kids grow up to have many issues. And plenty of poorly parented kids grow up to be perfectly well adjusted and successful.

We all wish we could point the finger at someone for everything, but the reality is that you can't.

You really want to argue all of those kids are special needs and cannot be controlled. Then they should be in a residential program, like RICA or another program if the parents cannot handle them. Bottomline is where were the parents. They weren't supervising their kids after the football game and the kids violently attacked another. When your kids dress in all black and put masks over their faces, as a parent, that's not a red flag to you?

These are high school kids. Let's say, ages 14-18. Do you think it's inappropriate for kids aged 14-18 to be out in downtown Bethesda on a Friday evening without a parent?

I would not let my 14 year old free roam. 16-18 if they were well behaved sure. But, I expect to know exactly where they are and what they are doing. A 14 year old should not be freely roaming. This is why these things are happening. And, as a parent, if my kid was dressed in all black carrying a face mask common sense is something is seriously off and going to happen.

What exactly constitutes "freely roaming"? Would you expect your kid to text you, "outside the metro station committing assault"? Do you think the kids left home with their ski masks on?

I expect them to text me if there is a change of plans. I would never ever let my kid hang out at a place like that as I know what happens there. This isn't anything new. It was happening 25-40 years ago and still is. People acting shocked shouldn't be. This has always been a rough school hidden by the wealth of Chevy Chase and Bethesda.

You don't monitor what clothing your kids go out in or where they are? This is why this stuff is happening. Until they are 18 and graduated high school they are your responsibility.

Jesus, how old are you? Forty years ago? Ok, 40 years ago I was in college. But Bethesda was a cement manufacturing, blue collar town back then. This started to radically change probably 25 or 30 years ago. And with 1/2 of the school coming from Chevy Chase - well, that part was always upscale.

Chevy Chase was not always upscale, it was a nicer area but not particularly wealthy like it is now. Same with Bethesda.

Ummm…I think you must be quite privileged. The houses in CC (I’m speaking of Newlands, etc) were summer homes for the wealthy in the 19th century.

Check your privilege. They were not that expensive in the 70 and 80’s. They were small old houses that needed a lot of work.

You are not thinking of the same part of CC if you do not know Newlands. You are probably not referring to the Town of Chevy Chase. Yes, I agree re the other sections, and you could say the same thing about Bethesda, for the most part.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not convinced that parents are primarily to blame. Several have pointed the finger at lackadaisical parenting skills as a reason for the melee last night. These students are up against a culture that promotes entitlement and disrespect for authority that has been fueled by the pandemic-related events of 2020-2022.

A culture of entitlement and disrespect for authority starts at home. This has nothing to do with the pandemic and kids have been back in school for over two years now. Stop blaming the pandemic for bad parenting. Kids don't get this way overnight. This was many years in the doing, prior to covid and they know they can do it as there is no supervision or consequences at home. MCPS should require a parent or legal guardian to attend these games or close them to the public if students cannot behave without that level of supervision. But, even so, this happened off MCPS property so those "kids" were under the supervision of their parents so ultimately the parents failed somewhere and this didn't just happen 3 years ago. Plenty of kids DON'T behave this way and also went through the pandemic.

Your post is so opinionated and judgmental. Any experienced parent, or wise adult in general, knows that of course parenting matters but it's not everything. Kids are born with certain genetics that you can't always control. Or there are circumstances that you can't control. Experiences that they go through that you can't control. Plenty of well parented kids grow up to have many issues. And plenty of poorly parented kids grow up to be perfectly well adjusted and successful.

We all wish we could point the finger at someone for everything, but the reality is that you can't.

You really want to argue all of those kids are special needs and cannot be controlled. Then they should be in a residential program, like RICA or another program if the parents cannot handle them. Bottomline is where were the parents. They weren't supervising their kids after the football game and the kids violently attacked another. When your kids dress in all black and put masks over their faces, as a parent, that's not a red flag to you?

These are high school kids. Let's say, ages 14-18. Do you think it's inappropriate for kids aged 14-18 to be out in downtown Bethesda on a Friday evening without a parent?

I would not let my 14 year old free roam. 16-18 if they were well behaved sure. But, I expect to know exactly where they are and what they are doing. A 14 year old should not be freely roaming. This is why these things are happening. And, as a parent, if my kid was dressed in all black carrying a face mask common sense is something is seriously off and going to happen.

What exactly constitutes "freely roaming"? Would you expect your kid to text you, "outside the metro station committing assault"? Do you think the kids left home with their ski masks on?

I expect them to text me if there is a change of plans. I would never ever let my kid hang out at a place like that as I know what happens there. This isn't anything new. It was happening 25-40 years ago and still is. People acting shocked shouldn't be. This has always been a rough school hidden by the wealth of Chevy Chase and Bethesda.

You don't monitor what clothing your kids go out in or where they are? This is why this stuff is happening. Until they are 18 and graduated high school they are your responsibility.

Jesus, how old are you? Forty years ago? Ok, 40 years ago I was in college. But Bethesda was a cement manufacturing, blue collar town back then. This started to radically change probably 25 or 30 years ago. And with 1/2 of the school coming from Chevy Chase - well, that part was always upscale.

Chevy Chase was not always upscale, it was a nicer area but not particularly wealthy like it is now. Same with Bethesda.

Ummm…I think you must be quite privileged. The houses in CC (I’m speaking of Newlands, etc) were summer homes for the wealthy in the 19th century.

Check your privilege. They were not that expensive in the 70 and 80’s. They were small old houses that needed a lot of work.

You are not thinking of the same part of CC if you do not know Newlands. You are probably not referring to the Town of Chevy Chase. Yes, I agree re the other sections, and you could say the same thing about Bethesda, for the most part.

Yes, I am.

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Anonymous wrote:Boys in fatherless homes do less well in life. They have plenty to rage about, including their single mothers with little if any authority, and her various boyfriends.

Absentee/ part time fathers can never be equal to a strong, loving and disciplined father in the home.

Kids who grow up with parents who are judgmental, angry and like to criticize other families tend to do very poorly when they grow up. I feel so bad for kids who have parents like the one above, they are going to grow up so messed up. It's really sad that they don't have a loving mother who demonstrates respect for other people and understanding of different circumstances.

This is a parenting issue regardless of the home situation. There were at least a dozen, if not more kids involved and given that there would be multiple family situations, all of which the parents failed to supervise and discipline their kids. MCPS should require parents to attend the football games or at least require the parents to pick them up if the kids cannot act responsibly. These incidents are happening far to frequently and if they are off MCPS property, MCPS cannot be blamed and parents need to be held accountable for their kids behaviors.

For all you know, the kids involved were never even actually at the game.

That is very true, and if so, then it really has nothing to do with MCPS. Especially given the timing.

If they are MCPS students harming other MCPS students, even if it’s outside of school grounds, it has to do with MCPS.

Yes. Why can’t MCPS adopt the same rules that the private schools follow, which is basically if you do anything anytime anywhere while you are a student at our school, and it brings dishonor to the school, you risk expulsion.

Because private schools can choose their students and set conditions on being a student. Public schools can't deny providing education to a child for any reason.

That needs to change. If prisoners can earn college degrees in jail, criminal HS students can get their GEDs.

Juveniles for the most part can't be incarcerted in MD, thanks to youth criminal justice reform passed 2 years ago.

There used to be a separate school (Twain) for these troubled students, but MCPS shut it down in 2008:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/montgomery-to-close-full-day-program-for-emotionally-troubled-middle-high-schoolers

When I went to MCPS many ages ago, our taunt to each other was if you did something really bad, you'd end up in Twain.

Why did MCPS shut down Twain?
Don’t they need an option for kids who get expelled from regular public school

Shut down because low test scores make mcps look bad

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Anonymous wrote:There's at least one other video circulating on Instagram of the events - it's longer than the one posted at the top of this thread and it show multiple people on the ground being kicked and stomped. The video shows a pretty big crowd - 20 people at least including a number of girls who are throwing punches and stomping someone. Some of the assailants can be clearly identified. The police and school authorities should have lots of evidence. It sounds like the schools did a lot to try to prevent this from happening; maybe they just need to ban student attendance at games altogether? It's outrageous.

Btw there was a BCC student last year who beat another student with a chair. It made the news and provoked a thread here at the time. One of my DCs graduated from BCC in May and I was shocked to hear the kid's name called for graduation - and he got huge cheers from the crowd. Despite the fact that he'd been violent repeatedly during his time at BCC. I have another kid still at BCC and I think it's a fantastic school in many ways. But there's something really wrong, obviously.

This is exactly the problem. Imagine being allowed to beat another student with a chair and graduate from that school.

There are no consequences for vile criminal behavior and that is directly the result of the school board.
People need to wake up.
If you care about nothing else you should at least care that bad schools drive property values down.

I have had my son attacked at an MCPS middle school just walking down the hall. Someone thought he might be gay. He was assaulted. He told his friends. When called in to the counselor, the assailant got lunch detention for several days. My son got one day of lunch detention for telling his friends. He told me, “It wasn’t that bad. I felt safe in that room they put me in alone.” My son was also told to try and befriend the bully so he wouldn’t be so angry. So they told a 12 yr old to essentially beg the bully to forgive him for existing.

This is not uncommon at MCPS. I don’t know who is responsible for the soft response to violence in schools but it appears that schools are powerless to protect our kids. The bad kids know there are no consequences.

I also have a child at BCC. The principal seems well intentioned but powerless.

That’s absurd that your kid got detention for telling a friend and say to be friends.

+1 Yet MCPS is supposed to be progressive?

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This is sickening. The parents of these children have failed. Period. MCPS needs to make sure BCC and WJ no longer compete in any sports.

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Anonymous wrote:This is sickening. The parents of these children have failed. Period. MCPS needs to make sure BCC and WJ no longer compete in any sports.

This has nothing to do with sports. It was a fight off property.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not convinced that parents are primarily to blame. Several have pointed the finger at lackadaisical parenting skills as a reason for the melee last night. These students are up against a culture that promotes entitlement and disrespect for authority that has been fueled by the pandemic-related events of 2020-2022.

A culture of entitlement and disrespect for authority starts at home. This has nothing to do with the pandemic and kids have been back in school for over two years now. Stop blaming the pandemic for bad parenting. Kids don't get this way overnight. This was many years in the doing, prior to covid and they know they can do it as there is no supervision or consequences at home. MCPS should require a parent or legal guardian to attend these games or close them to the public if students cannot behave without that level of supervision. But, even so, this happened off MCPS property so those "kids" were under the supervision of their parents so ultimately the parents failed somewhere and this didn't just happen 3 years ago. Plenty of kids DON'T behave this way and also went through the pandemic.

Your post is so opinionated and judgmental. Any experienced parent, or wise adult in general, knows that of course parenting matters but it's not everything. Kids are born with certain genetics that you can't always control. Or there are circumstances that you can't control. Experiences that they go through that you can't control. Plenty of well parented kids grow up to have many issues. And plenty of poorly parented kids grow up to be perfectly well adjusted and successful.

We all wish we could point the finger at someone for everything, but the reality is that you can't.

You really want to argue all of those kids are special needs and cannot be controlled. Then they should be in a residential program, like RICA or another program if the parents cannot handle them. Bottomline is where were the parents. They weren't supervising their kids after the football game and the kids violently attacked another. When your kids dress in all black and put masks over their faces, as a parent, that's not a red flag to you?

These are high school kids. Let's say, ages 14-18. Do you think it's inappropriate for kids aged 14-18 to be out in downtown Bethesda on a Friday evening without a parent?

I would not let my 14 year old free roam. 16-18 if they were well behaved sure. But, I expect to know exactly where they are and what they are doing. A 14 year old should not be freely roaming. This is why these things are happening. And, as a parent, if my kid was dressed in all black carrying a face mask common sense is something is seriously off and going to happen.

What exactly constitutes "freely roaming"? Would you expect your kid to text you, "outside the metro station committing assault"? Do you think the kids left home with their ski masks on?

I expect them to text me if there is a change of plans. I would never ever let my kid hang out at a place like that as I know what happens there. This isn't anything new. It was happening 25-40 years ago and still is. People acting shocked shouldn't be. This has always been a rough school hidden by the wealth of Chevy Chase and Bethesda.

You don't monitor what clothing your kids go out in or where they are? This is why this stuff is happening. Until they are 18 and graduated high school they are your responsibility.

For the record, the WJ theme was “black out”, so yes, when I dropped my 15yo off in all black I was well aware what he was wearing and where he was. He was participating in an age appropriate activity, supporting his friends and school. Others lost control and committed crimes.

You’re sure about this?
Well, WJ better not let that be the theme next year! Too easy to disguise yourself!

Tell me you've never been to a sporting event without telling me you've never been to a sporting event

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Anonymous wrote:This is sickening. The parents of these children have failed. Period. MCPS needs to make sure BCC and WJ no longer compete in any sports.

This has nothing to do with sports. It was a fight off property.

Really? Please. These incidents begin with athletic competitions between the school. You can bet every kid who attended that WJ v. BCC game was expecting to observe or take part in a fight. The rivalry stepped up a few years ago when the BCC field was under construction and WJ was used temporarily for BCC's games.

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Anonymous wrote:Heard the guy who got kicked has broken ribs.
There is a problem with crime in Montgomery County and you can thank Ehrlich and rhe far left progressives for giving away your hard built lives to people who didn't earn it

The low IQ Trumpanzee couldn’t hold it in. Focus on Trump advocating violence and that he deserves to be in jail.

I'm the pp you're calling a trumpanzee.
I've voted Democrat in every election beginning with AL gore.
Ans I'm still not voting republican. But people like you who equate any ripple in the force as "must be a trump voter! Must be a racist! Cancel! Cancel!" Will be the ruin of this county.
People learn something when they work for what they earn. All people deserve basic human rights but there's a big difference between that and allowing thugs to roam our classroom, push our teachers out with their horrible behavior, beat up on our kids and seem hell bent on having our stores shut down because they're looting our neighborhoods.
You can't let your kids walk around outside. Kids aren't safe in school. Packages arent safe on your doorstep. Your mail isnt safe in the box overnight. This isn't the place we moved to 20 years ago and you're to blame.
The Democratic party isn't a cult like the other side is. You're allowed to criticize the leaders who are failing us.
I'm assuming you have some mental problems and are as bad as the other side in terms of just blindly following a cult of personality- in your case- the cult of ideals. But the policies aren't working.

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Anonymous wrote:Bcc has always had issues throughout the years. This did not happen on mcps property and parents also need to be held accountable for what happened. This kids should be arrested and charged with assault. The metro is a few long blocks away. Parents need to step up and supervise their kids given how they behave although if they are behaving that way someone failed them long beforecc

Exactly this. Too many parents not doing their job.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Heard the guy who got kicked has broken ribs.
There is a problem with crime in Montgomery County and you can thank Ehrlich and rhe far left progressives for giving away your hard built lives to people who didn't earn it

The low IQ Trumpanzee couldn’t hold it in. Focus on Trump advocating violence and that he deserves to be in jail.

I'm the pp you're calling a trumpanzee.
I've voted Democrat in every election beginning with AL gore.
Ans I'm still not voting republican. But people like you who equate any ripple in the force as "must be a trump voter! Must be a racist! Cancel! Cancel!" Will be the ruin of this county.
People learn something when they work for what they earn. All people deserve basic human rights but there's a big difference between that and allowing thugs to roam our classroom, push our teachers out with their horrible behavior, beat up on our kids and seem hell bent on having our stores shut down because they're looting our neighborhoods.
You can't let your kids walk around outside. Kids aren't safe in school. Packages arent safe on your doorstep. Your mail isnt safe in the box overnight. This isn't the place we moved to 20 years ago and you're to blame.
The Democratic party isn't a cult like the other side is. You're allowed to criticize the leaders who are failing us.
I'm assuming you have some mental problems and are as bad as the other side in terms of just blindly following a cult of personality- in your case- the cult of ideals. But the policies aren't working.

DP here and I fully agree. This is now why I'm registered as no party affiliation. If you talk about "crazy" ideas like prosecuting lawbreakers, you get branded a Trump supporter...