The Blind Side scandal

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Anonymous wrote:Oher is a perfect example of what happens when you try to do the right things in life. MYOB.

The right thing being manipulating a talented homeless kid in going to your alma mater?

Seems like it worked out pretty well for him.

Did it? Is there an alternative universe that you can see into that shows the alternative was not better?

Prove that it would have been worse.

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Anonymous wrote:I think oher was probably irresponsible with his nfl money and is now looking to get some of that $200 million fast food money. Give me a break. So ungrateful.

You're saying he should be grateful that they lied to him and cheated him out of money?

Again --- yet to be proven they lied. In his bio he described it as a conservatorship. They are saying he got his money.

So the book, the ghostwriter, describes it as a conservatorship….. think about it. It’s not a stretch to think that he hardly knew the really detailed contents of the book.

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How much of the book did he actually “write”? Any?

As a practical matter, if your legal claim is significantly based on “I didn’t know X” and your autobiography says “X”, it’s going to be tough sledding for you. What, his ghostwriter was in on it? Any reasonable observer should, based on this evidence alone, conclude that the most likely scenario is that Oher is full of BS. Maybe not, but that’s the smart way to bet at this point, for those who need to have a view on the question.

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Right but what was needed here was something that could be done quickly that would satisfy the NCAA.

Why would the NCAA require this, given that he was 18 and mentally competent at the time it was set up? I'm legitimately asking - is there something NCAA-specific?

Because Tuohy was a booster for the school and it would look bad to bring in someone just to play football, against the NCAA rules, unless he was a family member. Otherwise the NCAA could have found him ineligible.

They could have adopted him or become his legal guardians. They can lie all they want, but these were options. If they have nothing to hide they should be very vocal in insisting upon a full forensic accounting of the conservatorship.

He already had a mother!

His mother had her rights severed which is why all her kids were in foster care. The Tuohys could have adopted him as a child or as an adult and his mother was supportive of the “adoption”. The Tuohys simply did not want to legally adopt him.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so confused about why a family that is so wealthy was taking money from the movie at all - why didn't they ensure it all went to him? I could see if they were average people who might have needed it to get by, but that wasn't the case.

Also, separate from the Tuohys, the more insane issue seems to me to be that a court appointed a conservatorship for a perfectly competent black man, and then allowed it to continue past the age that it was supposed to, with no accounting from the conservators.

Good old boy arrogance, entitlement, ... what else?

Because it was their story too and he has about to be NFL rich.

BS. NFL rich is not $200 Million rich so that’s not an excuse. They weren’t famous and NFL players are almost always more famous than successful business people. Without Michael they have no story whatsoever. Without them he still has a rags to riches story similar to someone like Tiffany Hadish (went from foster care to fame) coincidentally has a bestselling book of her own that doesn’t include or need a random white family who she isn’t legally related to.

Sean was famous already. Ole miss basketball star and he was tv and radio broadcaster for Ike miss and sec basketball.

He was a local star which is nowhere near the level of fame they achieved from the movie. The Tuohys would not be known outside of Ole Miss alums and super fans without Michael.

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Right but what was needed here was something that could be done quickly that would satisfy the NCAA.

Why would the NCAA require this, given that he was 18 and mentally competent at the time it was set up? I'm legitimately asking - is there something NCAA-specific?

Because Tuohy was a booster for the school and it would look bad to bring in someone just to play football, against the NCAA rules, unless he was a family member. Otherwise the NCAA could have found him ineligible.

They could have adopted him or become his legal guardians. They can lie all they want, but these were options. If they have nothing to hide they should be very vocal in insisting upon a full forensic accounting of the conservatorship.

He already had a mother!

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The majority of adopted children having living birth mothers.

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Anonymous wrote:Oher is a perfect example of what happens when you try to do the right things in life. MYOB.

The right thing being manipulating a talented homeless kid in going to your alma mater?

Seems like it worked out pretty well for him.

That tends to happen when you have the athletic abilities to play a professional sport.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s lying or greatly misguided I feel. Terrible state of mind he must be in at the moment. I believe the Tuoyehs probably have everything well documented. I hope someone is looking out for him.

Tell us about yourself Singer troll.

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Anonymous wrote:I think oher was probably irresponsible with his nfl money and is now looking to get some of that $200 million fast food money. Give me a break. So ungrateful.

You're saying he should be grateful that they lied to him and cheated him out of money?

Again --- yet to be proven they lied. In his bio he described it as a conservatorship. They are saying he got his money.

So the book, the ghostwriter, describes it as a conservatorship….. think about it. It’s not a stretch to think that he hardly knew the really detailed contents of the book.

+1

How much of the book did he actually “write”? Any?

As a practical matter, if your legal claim is significantly based on “I didn’t know X” and your autobiography says “X”, it’s going to be tough sledding for you. What, his ghostwriter was in on it? Any reasonable observer should, based on this evidence alone, conclude that the most likely scenario is that Oher is full of BS. Maybe not, but that’s the smart way to bet at this point, for those who need to have a view on the question.

Did the ghost writer review every word with him?

Most likely scenario is you are full of BS since you have zero facts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oher is a perfect example of what happens when you try to do the right things in life. MYOB.

The right thing being manipulating a talented homeless kid in going to your alma mater?

Seems like it worked out pretty well for him.

Did it? Is there an alternative universe that you can see into that shows the alternative was not better?

He made it to the NFL, had a good career, made millions. What secret outcome would have been better? Should we not help anyone bc maybe, just maybe, they would be better off alone? That’s some boot strap thinking right there.

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Anonymous wrote:I can see why Oher is unhappy and hurt. However, unless the Tuohys settle, I don't think he is getting the money he is seeking. I don't think they acted appropriately, but it seems like he knew this for quite a while.

They are going to have to prove why they put him in a conservatorship and they can’t use we wanted him to be apart of the family when adult adoption was the first option. They wanted to work around NCAA booster rules which is pathetic. That kid should have went to college in Memphis or LSU as intended because the Tuohys only cared about him going to Ole Miss because they are alums and boosters.

Every decision was really what was going to benefit the Tuohys. It must have hurt when he realized all their family talk was a pack of lies. The Tuohys are users through and through.

Btw Singer trolls. You'll be outdone here. We don't believe your posts.

[Anonymous]

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Right but what was needed here was something that could be done quickly that would satisfy the NCAA.

Why would the NCAA require this, given that he was 18 and mentally competent at the time it was set up? I'm legitimately asking - is there something NCAA-specific?

Because Tuohy was a booster for the school and it would look bad to bring in someone just to play football, against the NCAA rules, unless he was a family member. Otherwise the NCAA could have found him ineligible.

They could have adopted him or become his legal guardians. They can lie all they want, but these were options. If they have nothing to hide they should be very vocal in insisting upon a full forensic accounting of the conservatorship.

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Anonymous wrote:I am confused why, if they wanted to play up adopting him, they didn't just do it. They could have ensured that their assets only went to their biological children via a will/estate planning, right?

Because they never wanted him apart of the family. He was property to them, like a prize winning horse.

Exactly. They loved the attention and adoration. What a pair of fakes. I feel sorry for Michael.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that they picked a conservatorship over an adoption is so suspect. Why would they need to go that route, if not for money?

+1 this is the crux right here. Most people who go for a conservatorship have money at the front of their motivations.

Please keep up. NCAA required something like this. Makes sense. This was for him to succeed.

So why didn’t they end it once he went pro and legally adopt him. They never cared for him to be apart of the family but they made sure they wanted the rights to act on his behalf for a book and movie deal.

Most likely because they never gave it a thought. You are thinking of the Spears conservatorship that had her money and ran her life. It seems that the Oher one did nothing. It took it no money. It never did anything. It was just a way to get a round the NCAA. They had to leave it until he graduated. But I doubt it ever crossed their minds since it was not used.

How would you know this? We aren't certain what this conservatorship did but the Touheys certainly didn't share the info with Oher.

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Anonymous wrote:This is all you need to know about this family:

"We divided it five ways," the Tuohys wrote in their 2010 book, "In a Heartbeat: Sharing the Power of Cheerful Giving."

Um, it should have been divided in HALF. 50 to Michael and 50 to the family. Why are they getting 4/5 of the cut?!!

It’s the entire family’s story and fair that each member was compensated, but I think they should’ve divided it three ways and given a share to each child.

But Oher was/is not part of the family. Are they sharing their $200 million with him?

They certainly shared some of their income with him by providing shelter, food, tutoring and more. We have no idea what’s in their will. Oher also made millions, so it’s not like he’s homeless. They’re all upper class.

Shelter and food definitely. He actually was already academically successful prior to going to that school and not illiterate as the movie portrayed so unless you have a different reason for assuming they paid for tutoring that probably is a little Hollywood magic. I’d imagine if he were in foster care there could have been some money available for his upkeep. But they seemingly did all of this to get him to go to Ole Miss rather than a school with a stronger football program. So not sure that it’s sharing when the goal is to obtain something for your own benefit. More like paying for a certain result.

That is not true. His gpa was too low for D1. They paid for miss sue plus paid for him to take college courses that picked up his gpa.

Where are you getting this? I wouldn't believe a word out of the grifter's mouths.

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Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.

Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.

Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.

This is all set out in the Michael Lewis book that the movie is based on. The family let Michael stay at their house. It grew from that. I have no idea if they adopted him. He now says they did not but we will have to wait and see. Maybe it was just the conservatorship. That would be easier to do than an adoption. That may be why they did it. Also Michael was a bit crazy in his actions unlike in the movie. They may not have wanted the liability. Remember they were quite wealthy. What does not make sense is to me is that Michael was over 18 when the book came out and well over 18 when the movie was in production and made. I don't know why the conservatorship would still be on or if he really did get no money -- how that was possible. The movie would have had to pay someone to use Michael's name and story. No production company would rely on a conservatorship for a dude already in the NFL who was over 18. They would want Michael's signature as well. And did he not notice he had received nothing?

This story is not at all adding up at the moment and I am a bit suspect of Michael.

Really?

After everything we know about Britney Spears and how she was fully controlled and taken advantage of by her conservatorship, you truly believe Michael Oher would have been in a better place to defend himself?

Seriously?

Don’t get your comment. Spears was controlled by and all her money went to the conservatorship. Other’s was never used. Other than given to the NCAA. No money went in. No control. Sean did not sign Oher’s nfl co tract and take the money.

How do you know this unless you work for them and are spinning the facts?