The Blind Side scandal

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Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.

Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.

Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.

This is all set out in the Michael Lewis book that the movie is based on. The family let Michael stay at their house. It grew from that. I have no idea if they adopted him. He now says they did not but we will have to wait and see. Maybe it was just the conservatorship. That would be easier to do than an adoption. That may be why they did it. Also Michael was a bit crazy in his actions unlike in the movie. They may not have wanted the liability. Remember they were quite wealthy. What does not make sense is to me is that Michael was over 18 when the book came out and well over 18 when the movie was in production and made. I don't know why the conservatorship would still be on or if he really did get no money -- how that was possible. The movie would have had to pay someone to use Michael's name and story. No production company would rely on a conservatorship for a dude already in the NFL who was over 18. They would want Michael's signature as well. And did he not notice he had received nothing?

This story is not at all adding up at the moment and I am a bit suspect of Michael.

Really?

After everything we know about Britney Spears and how she was fully controlled and taken advantage of by her conservatorship, you truly believe Michael Oher would have been in a better place to defend himself?

Seriously?

Don’t get your comment. Spears was controlled by and all her money went to the conservatorship. Other’s was never used. Other than given to the NCAA. No money went in. No control. Sean did not sign Oher’s nfl co tract and take the money.

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Right but what was needed here was something that could be done quickly that would satisfy the NCAA.

Why would the NCAA require this, given that he was 18 and mentally competent at the time it was set up? I'm legitimately asking - is there something NCAA-specific?

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Right but what was needed here was something that could be done quickly that would satisfy the NCAA.

Why would the NCAA require this, given that he was 18 and mentally competent at the time it was set up? I'm legitimately asking - is there something NCAA-specific?

Because Tuohy was a booster for the school and it would look bad to bring in someone just to play football, against the NCAA rules, unless he was a family member. Otherwise the NCAA could have found him ineligible.

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Anonymous wrote:What an ungrateful fat bastard!!

Agreed. Sean Tuohy is a predator.

That doesn't even make any sense. Poor attempt. Try again.

Okay. Sean Tuohy is a FAT predator.

humor illudes you. don't quit your day job if you have one.

[Anonymous]

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Right but what was needed here was something that could be done quickly that would satisfy the NCAA.

Why would the NCAA require this, given that he was 18 and mentally competent at the time it was set up? I'm legitimately asking - is there something NCAA-specific?

Because Tuohy was a booster for the school and it would look bad to bring in someone just to play football, against the NCAA rules, unless he was a family member. Otherwise the NCAA could have found him ineligible.

They could have adopted him or become his legal guardians. They can lie all they want, but these were options. If they have nothing to hide they should be very vocal in insisting upon a full forensic accounting of the conservatorship.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so confused about why a family that is so wealthy was taking money from the movie at all - why didn't they ensure it all went to him? I could see if they were average people who might have needed it to get by, but that wasn't the case.

Also, separate from the Tuohys, the more insane issue seems to me to be that a court appointed a conservatorship for a perfectly competent black man, and then allowed it to continue past the age that it was supposed to, with no accounting from the conservators.

Good old boy arrogance, entitlement, ... what else?

Because it was their story too and he has about to be NFL rich.

BS. NFL rich is not $200 Million rich so that’s not an excuse. They weren’t famous and NFL players are almost always more famous than successful business people. Without Michael they have no story whatsoever. Without them he still has a rags to riches story similar to someone like Tiffany Hadish (went from foster care to fame) coincidentally has a bestselling book of her own that doesn’t include or need a random white family who she isn’t legally related to.

Sean was famous already. Ole miss basketball star and he was tv and radio broadcaster for Ike miss and sec basketball.

That is not famous. You’re arguing that a college athlete and a commentator on college athletics is as famous as someone in the NFL? Also the entirety of Leigh Ann’s fame is from being Michael’s “mother.” It’s even how she brands herself on her social media “mother of 3”

[Anonymous]

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Right but what was needed here was something that could be done quickly that would satisfy the NCAA.

Why would the NCAA require this, given that he was 18 and mentally competent at the time it was set up? I'm legitimately asking - is there something NCAA-specific?

Because of the dad’s involvement in ole miss football booster club. It could be seen as the living arrangement was bribing Oher to play there. Past scandals have seen wealthy alumni from football/basketball colleges putting high school players up in fancy properties, taking them on trips, and buying them clothes to recruit them for specific colleges with the collusion of coaches.

That’s why the dad said if you want to go to ole miss we have to do this (conservatorship) to prove we aren’t just bribing you to go to ole miss and that’s why you live with us.

I don’t care for Leigh Ann’s brand of marketable Christianity/charity but really they were just a very wealthy family who took in a struggling kid and had a talented writer friend who wrote about it. Oher is no doubt better off than he would have otherwise been thanks to them but he’s also entitled to reject their narrative and values as an adult. Going after their money though is petty and dumb, they made their money off of fast food franchises not off of him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Right but what was needed here was something that could be done quickly that would satisfy the NCAA.

Why would the NCAA require this, given that he was 18 and mentally competent at the time it was set up? I'm legitimately asking - is there something NCAA-specific?

Because Tuohy was a booster for the school and it would look bad to bring in someone just to play football, against the NCAA rules, unless he was a family member. Otherwise the NCAA could have found him ineligible.

Here’s a crazy thought…why couldn’t they just encourage him to go to any of the better football programs he was recruited for? Why do they have to get something out of it?

Also the conservatorship clearly didn’t meet the ncaa rules since there was immediately an investigation into Michael choosing Ole Miss.

[Anonymous]

Oher is a perfect example of what happens when you try to do the right things in life. MYOB.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Right but what was needed here was something that could be done quickly that would satisfy the NCAA.

Why would the NCAA require this, given that he was 18 and mentally competent at the time it was set up? I'm legitimately asking - is there something NCAA-specific?

Because of the dad’s involvement in ole miss football booster club. It could be seen as the living arrangement was bribing Oher to play there. Past scandals have seen wealthy alumni from football/basketball colleges putting high school players up in fancy properties, taking them on trips, and buying them clothes to recruit them for specific colleges with the collusion of coaches.

That’s why the dad said if you want to go to ole miss we have to do this (conservatorship) to prove we aren’t just bribing you to go to ole miss and that’s why you live with us.

I don’t care for Leigh Ann’s brand of marketable Christianity/charity but really they were just a very wealthy family who took in a struggling kid and had a talented writer friend who wrote about it. Oher is no doubt better off than he would have otherwise been thanks to them but he’s also entitled to reject their narrative and values as an adult. Going after their money though is petty and dumb, they made their money off of fast food franchises not off of him.

Based on what? He was already at that school playing football prior to them taking him in. He has repeatedly said he feels the movie impacted his football career and could have gone to a school with a better football team without there interference.

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Anonymous wrote:Oher is a perfect example of what happens when you try to do the right things in life. MYOB.

The right thing being manipulating a talented homeless kid in going to your alma mater?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Right but what was needed here was something that could be done quickly that would satisfy the NCAA.

Why would the NCAA require this, given that he was 18 and mentally competent at the time it was set up? I'm legitimately asking - is there something NCAA-specific?

Because Tuohy was a booster for the school and it would look bad to bring in someone just to play football, against the NCAA rules, unless he was a family member. Otherwise the NCAA could have found him ineligible.

Here’s a crazy thought…why couldn’t they just encourage him to go to any of the better football programs he was recruited for? Why do they have to get something out of it?

Also the conservatorship clearly didn’t meet the ncaa rules since there was immediately an investigation into Michael choosing Ole Miss.

The investigation or NCAA monitoring of Oher as a top recruit started earlier than portrayed in the movie. The conservatorship was a means to get around NCAA rules.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Right but what was needed here was something that could be done quickly that would satisfy the NCAA.

Why would the NCAA require this, given that he was 18 and mentally competent at the time it was set up? I'm legitimately asking - is there something NCAA-specific?

Because Tuohy was a booster for the school and it would look bad to bring in someone just to play football, against the NCAA rules, unless he was a family member. Otherwise the NCAA could have found him ineligible.

They could have adopted him or become his legal guardians. They can lie all they want, but these were options. If they have nothing to hide they should be very vocal in insisting upon a full forensic accounting of the conservatorship.

He already had a mother!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oher is a perfect example of what happens when you try to do the right things in life. MYOB.

The right thing being manipulating a talented homeless kid in going to your alma mater?

Seems like it worked out pretty well for him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oher is a perfect example of what happens when you try to do the right things in life. MYOB.

The right thing being manipulating a talented homeless kid in going to your alma mater?

Seems like it worked out pretty well for him.

Did it? Is there an alternative universe that you can see into that shows the alternative was not better?