How is FCPS teacher/staff shortage?

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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a lot of hype on this thread. I have seen no other place where people are worried about staffing. This seems to be a normal year?

Nothing in:
- newsletters from school board members
- newsletters from my child’s schools
- during my child’s IEP meeting
- in the Washington Post
- FCPS news releases


I’m not convinced that this is actually a problem. Teachers come and go every year.

+1 Teachers also screamed about this year, saying it would be a sh*t show and it wasn’t.

I beg to differ. It very much was a poop show.

Haha, it was! 😊

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Anonymous wrote:If you career-switch to become a teacher - and the field needs these people more than ever because of teacher exodus - work experience in other fields does not "count" in the pay scale and you're paid as a first year teacher. I speak from experience...I have 15 years of experience in international trade and 2 Master's degrees (counting the one I studied for and paid for in secondary education) yet am paid as a second year teacher. This only works because my spouse makes quite a bit more than me AND we're willing to live simply. Push SB for some sort of equivalency for those coming to teaching from other professions and more people might be interested/financially able.

90% of all the openings I see are in sped, bilingual, math and science. It's these folks who need to be paid more. If private sector people come in qualified to teach these areas, they should get more pay (along with all the people already there).
And speaking of experience that doesn't count, districts balance their budgets on teachers' backs all the time. I should be paid for 25 years of experience. Instead, because I have changed districts, I get paid for 15 years experience. This means I am underpaid by about 25K. I have thought a lot about leaving. But reality is that I am 6-10 years from being able to retire and damn it, I am going to get my full pension if it kills me. Other people don't have my staying power and they are leaving. It would make sense to pay people like me, who have moved districts, for every year we've worked.

There is no way 90% are within those disciplines. I just looked and there are almost 140 postings for grades 1-6 (gen ed and AAP)

agree it's across the board

It’s easier for the average parent if they think it won’t have an impact on their kid’s classroom. It absolutely might

I feel fortunate knowing who my kid’s teacher is (Local Level 4) and that they are definitely coming back. I feel bad for any child that doesn’t have a full time teacher in August. 😢

I do, too, but that Eagle View recruitment page makes me realize why they are losing ES teachers. I never thought teaching kids could be made to seem so utterly JOYLESS. Growth mindset? Continued quality professional development? Presume positivity toward change? Jesus. What a weird combination of what sounds like financial management jargon and self-help lingo.

Growth mindset's alleged benefits have repeatedly failed replication in scientific studies, so it's not surprising that an FCPS school has it front and center.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a lot of hype on this thread. I have seen no other place where people are worried about staffing. This seems to be a normal year?

Nothing in:
- newsletters from school board members
- newsletters from my child’s schools
- during my child’s IEP meeting
- in the Washington Post
- FCPS news releases


I’m not convinced that this is actually a problem. Teachers come and go every year.

It has been all over the news nationwide that teachers are leaving in droves. There will be many kids starting the year without a full time teacher.

and your odds of not having a full time teacher are increased if your kid goes to Eagle View. From that recruiting page, we know that school’s admin is in the toilet.

The school is getting new admin. Someone said the principal is headed to Hunt Valley.

Poor Hunt Valley

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Anonymous wrote:If you career-switch to become a teacher - and the field needs these people more than ever because of teacher exodus - work experience in other fields does not "count" in the pay scale and you're paid as a first year teacher. I speak from experience...I have 15 years of experience in international trade and 2 Master's degrees (counting the one I studied for and paid for in secondary education) yet am paid as a second year teacher. This only works because my spouse makes quite a bit more than me AND we're willing to live simply. Push SB for some sort of equivalency for those coming to teaching from other professions and more people might be interested/financially able.

90% of all the openings I see are in sped, bilingual, math and science. It's these folks who need to be paid more. If private sector people come in qualified to teach these areas, they should get more pay (along with all the people already there).
And speaking of experience that doesn't count, districts balance their budgets on teachers' backs all the time. I should be paid for 25 years of experience. Instead, because I have changed districts, I get paid for 15 years experience. This means I am underpaid by about 25K. I have thought a lot about leaving. But reality is that I am 6-10 years from being able to retire and damn it, I am going to get my full pension if it kills me. Other people don't have my staying power and they are leaving. It would make sense to pay people like me, who have moved districts, for every year we've worked.

There is no way 90% are within those disciplines. I just looked and there are almost 140 postings for grades 1-6 (gen ed and AAP)

agree it's across the board

It’s easier for the average parent if they think it won’t have an impact on their kid’s classroom. It absolutely might

I feel fortunate knowing who my kid’s teacher is (Local Level 4) and that they are definitely coming back. I feel bad for any child that doesn’t have a full time teacher in August. 😢

I do, too, but that Eagle View recruitment page makes me realize why they are losing ES teachers. I never thought teaching kids could be made to seem so utterly JOYLESS. Growth mindset? Continued quality professional development? Presume positivity toward change? Jesus. What a weird combination of what sounds like financial management jargon and self-help lingo.

Wow-yeah that post is.... interesting

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Anonymous wrote:This school is recruiting on its web page. I've never seen that before.

https://eagleviewes.fcps.edu/features/why-work-eagle-view

So much Gatehouse-type word salad. Clearly this school is heavy on programs that will take so much time away from actual lessons.

This would make me run the other direction if I was looking to switch schools.

That recruiting page is a huge tell that the administration at Eagle View is terrible: reading it is like reading a teacher’s PD Bingo card.

Did you dream abut a career where you will be gaslit and treated like a child....do we have the job for you!

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Anonymous wrote:If you career-switch to become a teacher - and the field needs these people more than ever because of teacher exodus - work experience in other fields does not "count" in the pay scale and you're paid as a first year teacher. I speak from experience...I have 15 years of experience in international trade and 2 Master's degrees (counting the one I studied for and paid for in secondary education) yet am paid as a second year teacher. This only works because my spouse makes quite a bit more than me AND we're willing to live simply. Push SB for some sort of equivalency for those coming to teaching from other professions and more people might be interested/financially able.

90% of all the openings I see are in sped, bilingual, math and science. It's these folks who need to be paid more. If private sector people come in qualified to teach these areas, they should get more pay (along with all the people already there).
And speaking of experience that doesn't count, districts balance their budgets on teachers' backs all the time. I should be paid for 25 years of experience. Instead, because I have changed districts, I get paid for 15 years experience. This means I am underpaid by about 25K. I have thought a lot about leaving. But reality is that I am 6-10 years from being able to retire and damn it, I am going to get my full pension if it kills me. Other people don't have my staying power and they are leaving. It would make sense to pay people like me, who have moved districts, for every year we've worked.

There is no way 90% are within those disciplines. I just looked and there are almost 140 postings for grades 1-6 (gen ed and AAP)

agree it's across the board

It’s easier for the average parent if they think it won’t have an impact on their kid’s classroom. It absolutely might

I feel fortunate knowing who my kid’s teacher is (Local Level 4) and that they are definitely coming back. I feel bad for any child that doesn’t have a full time teacher in August. 😢

I do, too, but that Eagle View recruitment page makes me realize why they are losing ES teachers. I never thought teaching kids could be made to seem so utterly JOYLESS. Growth mindset? Continued quality professional development? Presume positivity toward change? Jesus. What a weird combination of what sounds like financial management jargon and self-help lingo.

Do you strive to be a lifelong learner and participate in continued quality professional development that informs and enhances your practice? = You will be expected to give up your unencumbered planning time to meet with your team. Planning and grading will be done on your own time.

Do you believe in building strong relationships and trust with students and families? = When a student has difficulty following rules and expectations, fault will lie with the teacher.

Shhh. Don’t tip off the administration.

You don’t think they realize that they do this?

I'd love to know whether the admin wrote this or if some fool at Gatehouse wrote it.

I’m pretty sure schools write their own content for their web pages.

Don't be too sure....I still question if principals get to write their own emails.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a lot of hype on this thread. I have seen no other place where people are worried about staffing. This seems to be a normal year?

Nothing in:
- newsletters from school board members
- newsletters from my child’s schools
- during my child’s IEP meeting
- in the Washington Post
- FCPS news releases


I’m not convinced that this is actually a problem. Teachers come and go every year.

It has been all over the news nationwide that teachers are leaving in droves. There will be many kids starting the year without a full time teacher.

and your odds of not having a full time teacher are increased if your kid goes to Eagle View. From that recruiting page, we know that school’s admin is in the toilet.

The school is getting new admin. Someone said the principal is headed to Hunt Valley.

Poor Hunt Valley

Why?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a lot of hype on this thread. I have seen no other place where people are worried about staffing. This seems to be a normal year?

Nothing in:
- newsletters from school board members
- newsletters from my child’s schools
- during my child’s IEP meeting
- in the Washington Post
- FCPS news releases


I’m not convinced that this is actually a problem. Teachers come and go every year.

It has been all over the news nationwide that teachers are leaving in droves. There will be many kids starting the year without a full time teacher.

and your odds of not having a full time teacher are increased if your kid goes to Eagle View. From that recruiting page, we know that school’s admin is in the toilet.

The school is getting new admin. Someone said the principal is headed to Hunt Valley.

Poor Hunt Valley

Actually, it’s the AP headed to HVES.

[Anonymous]

Eagle View had a really poorly run CSS site as well, they were featured in a lawsuit alleging abuse against FCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Eagle View had a really poorly run CSS site as well, they were featured in a lawsuit alleging abuse against FCPS.

What is CSS?

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Anonymous wrote:Eagle View had a really poorly run CSS site as well, they were featured in a lawsuit alleging abuse against FCPS.

What is CSS?

It can mean a variety of SPED services offered at the school: PAC, Autism, Multiple Disabilities, etc

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Anonymous wrote:Eagle View had a really poorly run CSS site as well, they were featured in a lawsuit alleging abuse against FCPS.

What is CSS?

It can mean a variety of SPED services offered at the school: PAC, Autism, Multiple Disabilities, etc

CSS stands for Comprehensive Services Site. It’s the only high functioning SPED self-contained program in the county. it serves students who have emotional disabilities, behavior disorders, high functioning autism (who exhibit more sever behaviors) and other health impairments. The students receive small group instruction (including AAP for those who need it) art therapy, music therapy, social skills instruction and supports to work on their behaviors and emotional needs while gaining the grade level academic skills. Only 7 Elementary schools in the entire county have CSS programs.

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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a lot of hype on this thread. I have seen no other place where people are worried about staffing. This seems to be a normal year?

Nothing in:
- newsletters from school board members
- newsletters from my child’s schools
- during my child’s IEP meeting
- in the Washington Post
- FCPS news releases


I’m not convinced that this is actually a problem. Teachers come and go every year.

Lol, good luck with that.

[Anonymous]

The teacher shortage is not real. It’s only talking points developed by the unions.

https://ussanews.com/2022/06/21/the-enduring-teacher-shortage-myth/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The teacher shortage is not real. It’s only talking points developed by the unions.

https://ussanews.com/2022/06/21/the-enduring-teacher-shortage-myth/

Yeah, that looks like a solid source. 🙄