How is FCPS teacher/staff shortage?

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Anonymous wrote:If you career-switch to become a teacher - and the field needs these people more than ever because of teacher exodus - work experience in other fields does not "count" in the pay scale and you're paid as a first year teacher. I speak from experience...I have 15 years of experience in international trade and 2 Master's degrees (counting the one I studied for and paid for in secondary education) yet am paid as a second year teacher. This only works because my spouse makes quite a bit more than me AND we're willing to live simply. Push SB for some sort of equivalency for those coming to teaching from other professions and more people might be interested/financially able.

90% of all the openings I see are in sped, bilingual, math and science. It's these folks who need to be paid more. If private sector people come in qualified to teach these areas, they should get more pay (along with all the people already there).
And speaking of experience that doesn't count, districts balance their budgets on teachers' backs all the time. I should be paid for 25 years of experience. Instead, because I have changed districts, I get paid for 15 years experience. This means I am underpaid by about 25K. I have thought a lot about leaving. But reality is that I am 6-10 years from being able to retire and damn it, I am going to get my full pension if it kills me. Other people don't have my staying power and they are leaving. It would make sense to pay people like me, who have moved districts, for every year we've worked.

There is no way 90% are within those disciplines. I just looked and there are almost 140 postings for grades 1-6 (gen ed and AAP)

agree it's across the board

It’s easier for the average parent if they think it won’t have an impact on their kid’s classroom. It absolutely might

I feel fortunate knowing who my kid’s teacher is (Local Level 4) and that they are definitely coming back. I feel bad for any child that doesn’t have a full time teacher in August. 😢

I do, too, but that Eagle View recruitment page makes me realize why they are losing ES teachers. I never thought teaching kids could be made to seem so utterly JOYLESS. Growth mindset? Continued quality professional development? Presume positivity toward change? Jesus. What a weird combination of what sounds like financial management jargon and self-help lingo.

Do you strive to be a lifelong learner and participate in continued quality professional development that informs and enhances your practice? = You will be expected to give up your unencumbered planning time to meet with your team. Planning and grading will be done on your own time.

Do you believe in building strong relationships and trust with students and families? = When a student has difficulty following rules and expectations, fault will lie with the teacher.

Shhh. Don’t tip off the administration.

You don’t think they realize that they do this?

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Anonymous wrote:If you career-switch to become a teacher - and the field needs these people more than ever because of teacher exodus - work experience in other fields does not "count" in the pay scale and you're paid as a first year teacher. I speak from experience...I have 15 years of experience in international trade and 2 Master's degrees (counting the one I studied for and paid for in secondary education) yet am paid as a second year teacher. This only works because my spouse makes quite a bit more than me AND we're willing to live simply. Push SB for some sort of equivalency for those coming to teaching from other professions and more people might be interested/financially able.

90% of all the openings I see are in sped, bilingual, math and science. It's these folks who need to be paid more. If private sector people come in qualified to teach these areas, they should get more pay (along with all the people already there).
And speaking of experience that doesn't count, districts balance their budgets on teachers' backs all the time. I should be paid for 25 years of experience. Instead, because I have changed districts, I get paid for 15 years experience. This means I am underpaid by about 25K. I have thought a lot about leaving. But reality is that I am 6-10 years from being able to retire and damn it, I am going to get my full pension if it kills me. Other people don't have my staying power and they are leaving. It would make sense to pay people like me, who have moved districts, for every year we've worked.

There is no way 90% are within those disciplines. I just looked and there are almost 140 postings for grades 1-6 (gen ed and AAP)

agree it's across the board

It’s easier for the average parent if they think it won’t have an impact on their kid’s classroom. It absolutely might

I feel fortunate knowing who my kid’s teacher is (Local Level 4) and that they are definitely coming back. I feel bad for any child that doesn’t have a full time teacher in August. 😢

I do, too, but that Eagle View recruitment page makes me realize why they are losing ES teachers. I never thought teaching kids could be made to seem so utterly JOYLESS. Growth mindset? Continued quality professional development? Presume positivity toward change? Jesus. What a weird combination of what sounds like financial management jargon and self-help lingo.

Do you strive to be a lifelong learner and participate in continued quality professional development that informs and enhances your practice? = You will be expected to give up your unencumbered planning time to meet with your team. Planning and grading will be done on your own time.

Do you believe in building strong relationships and trust with students and families? = When a student has difficulty following rules and expectations, fault will lie with the teacher.

Shhh. Don’t tip off the administration.

You don’t think they realize that they do this?

I doubt they realize how off-putting it is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you career-switch to become a teacher - and the field needs these people more than ever because of teacher exodus - work experience in other fields does not "count" in the pay scale and you're paid as a first year teacher. I speak from experience...I have 15 years of experience in international trade and 2 Master's degrees (counting the one I studied for and paid for in secondary education) yet am paid as a second year teacher. This only works because my spouse makes quite a bit more than me AND we're willing to live simply. Push SB for some sort of equivalency for those coming to teaching from other professions and more people might be interested/financially able.

90% of all the openings I see are in sped, bilingual, math and science. It's these folks who need to be paid more. If private sector people come in qualified to teach these areas, they should get more pay (along with all the people already there).
And speaking of experience that doesn't count, districts balance their budgets on teachers' backs all the time. I should be paid for 25 years of experience. Instead, because I have changed districts, I get paid for 15 years experience. This means I am underpaid by about 25K. I have thought a lot about leaving. But reality is that I am 6-10 years from being able to retire and damn it, I am going to get my full pension if it kills me. Other people don't have my staying power and they are leaving. It would make sense to pay people like me, who have moved districts, for every year we've worked.

There is no way 90% are within those disciplines. I just looked and there are almost 140 postings for grades 1-6 (gen ed and AAP)

agree it's across the board

It’s easier for the average parent if they think it won’t have an impact on their kid’s classroom. It absolutely might

I feel fortunate knowing who my kid’s teacher is (Local Level 4) and that they are definitely coming back. I feel bad for any child that doesn’t have a full time teacher in August. 😢

I do, too, but that Eagle View recruitment page makes me realize why they are losing ES teachers. I never thought teaching kids could be made to seem so utterly JOYLESS. Growth mindset? Continued quality professional development? Presume positivity toward change? Jesus. What a weird combination of what sounds like financial management jargon and self-help lingo.

Do you strive to be a lifelong learner and participate in continued quality professional development that informs and enhances your practice? = You will be expected to give up your unencumbered planning time to meet with your team. Planning and grading will be done on your own time.

Do you believe in building strong relationships and trust with students and families? = When a student has difficulty following rules and expectations, fault will lie with the teacher.

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:If you career-switch to become a teacher - and the field needs these people more than ever because of teacher exodus - work experience in other fields does not "count" in the pay scale and you're paid as a first year teacher. I speak from experience...I have 15 years of experience in international trade and 2 Master's degrees (counting the one I studied for and paid for in secondary education) yet am paid as a second year teacher. This only works because my spouse makes quite a bit more than me AND we're willing to live simply. Push SB for some sort of equivalency for those coming to teaching from other professions and more people might be interested/financially able.

90% of all the openings I see are in sped, bilingual, math and science. It's these folks who need to be paid more. If private sector people come in qualified to teach these areas, they should get more pay (along with all the people already there).
And speaking of experience that doesn't count, districts balance their budgets on teachers' backs all the time. I should be paid for 25 years of experience. Instead, because I have changed districts, I get paid for 15 years experience. This means I am underpaid by about 25K. I have thought a lot about leaving. But reality is that I am 6-10 years from being able to retire and damn it, I am going to get my full pension if it kills me. Other people don't have my staying power and they are leaving. It would make sense to pay people like me, who have moved districts, for every year we've worked.

There is no way 90% are within those disciplines. I just looked and there are almost 140 postings for grades 1-6 (gen ed and AAP)

agree it's across the board

It’s easier for the average parent if they think it won’t have an impact on their kid’s classroom. It absolutely might

I feel fortunate knowing who my kid’s teacher is (Local Level 4) and that they are definitely coming back. I feel bad for any child that doesn’t have a full time teacher in August. 😢

I do, too, but that Eagle View recruitment page makes me realize why they are losing ES teachers. I never thought teaching kids could be made to seem so utterly JOYLESS. Growth mindset? Continued quality professional development? Presume positivity toward change? Jesus. What a weird combination of what sounds like financial management jargon and self-help lingo.

Do you strive to be a lifelong learner and participate in continued quality professional development that informs and enhances your practice? = You will be expected to give up your unencumbered planning time to meet with your team. Planning and grading will be done on your own time.

Do you believe in building strong relationships and trust with students and families? = When a student has difficulty following rules and expectations, fault will lie with the teacher.

Shhh. Don’t tip off the administration.

You don’t think they realize that they do this?

I'd love to know whether the admin wrote this or if some fool at Gatehouse wrote it.

[Anonymous]

There seems to be a lot of hype on this thread. I have seen no other place where people are worried about staffing. This seems to be a normal year?

Nothing in:
- newsletters from school board members
- newsletters from my child’s schools
- during my child’s IEP meeting
- in the Washington Post
- FCPS news releases


I’m not convinced that this is actually a problem. Teachers come and go every year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a lot of hype on this thread. I have seen no other place where people are worried about staffing. This seems to be a normal year?

Nothing in:
- newsletters from school board members
- newsletters from my child’s schools
- during my child’s IEP meeting
- in the Washington Post
- FCPS news releases


I’m not convinced that this is actually a problem. Teachers come and go every year.

+1 Teachers also screamed about this year, saying it would be a sh*t show and it wasn’t.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a lot of hype on this thread. I have seen no other place where people are worried about staffing. This seems to be a normal year?

Nothing in:
- newsletters from school board members
- newsletters from my child’s schools
- during my child’s IEP meeting
- in the Washington Post
- FCPS news releases


I’m not convinced that this is actually a problem. Teachers come and go every year.

+1 Teachers also screamed about this year, saying it would be a sh*t show and it wasn’t.

Pshhhh. Please don't come on here in September, upset that your kid's class started without an actual classroom or special ed teacher. We tried to tell you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a lot of hype on this thread. I have seen no other place where people are worried about staffing. This seems to be a normal year?

Nothing in:
- newsletters from school board members
- newsletters from my child’s schools
- during my child’s IEP meeting
- in the Washington Post
- FCPS news releases


I’m not convinced that this is actually a problem. Teachers come and go every year.

It has been all over the news nationwide that teachers are leaving in droves. There will be many kids starting the year without a full time teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a lot of hype on this thread. I have seen no other place where people are worried about staffing. This seems to be a normal year?

Nothing in:
- newsletters from school board members
- newsletters from my child’s schools
- during my child’s IEP meeting
- in the Washington Post
- FCPS news releases


I’m not convinced that this is actually a problem. Teachers come and go every year.

It has been all over the news nationwide that teachers are leaving in droves. There will be many kids starting the year without a full time teacher.

+1. It's a problem. School board member are trying to hold onto their seats or get promoted to BOS. There is no way in hell they want to advertise that a record number of teachers left the district during their term. A specific school may not be personally impacted or may be holding onto that information for the same reason as above, plus real numbers for FCPS are just starting to come in. An IEP team is not going to tell a parent during a meeting that they are looking at a lot of special education vacancies next year because that invites all sorts of problems, plus the IEP meeting was probably before the end of the school year so they may not have had the numbers yet anyway. Washington Post has mentioned the staffing shortages in summer school already. Teachers had until June 15 to resign w/o prejudice or transfer so some of the official numbers are starting to leak out. Individual schools are advertising on social media, FCPS is holding virtual job fairs and advertising separately for special ed positions, and other school districts are posting alarming numbers about staff departures.

I suspect for a lot of people it's not a problem for them just yet so they "don't see it".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a lot of hype on this thread. I have seen no other place where people are worried about staffing. This seems to be a normal year?

Nothing in:
- newsletters from school board members
- newsletters from my child’s schools
- during my child’s IEP meeting
- in the Washington Post
- FCPS news releases


I’m not convinced that this is actually a problem. Teachers come and go every year.

Why would they advertise a problem that they have no solution for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a lot of hype on this thread. I have seen no other place where people are worried about staffing. This seems to be a normal year?

Nothing in:
- newsletters from school board members
- newsletters from my child’s schools
- during my child’s IEP meeting
- in the Washington Post
- FCPS news releases


I’m not convinced that this is actually a problem. Teachers come and go every year.

It has been all over the news nationwide that teachers are leaving in droves. There will be many kids starting the year without a full time teacher.

and your odds of not having a full time teacher are increased if your kid goes to Eagle View. From that recruiting page, we know that school’s admin is in the toilet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a lot of hype on this thread. I have seen no other place where people are worried about staffing. This seems to be a normal year?

Nothing in:
- newsletters from school board members
- newsletters from my child’s schools
- during my child’s IEP meeting
- in the Washington Post
- FCPS news releases


I’m not convinced that this is actually a problem. Teachers come and go every year.

+1 Teachers also screamed about this year, saying it would be a sh*t show and it wasn’t.

I beg to differ. It very much was a poop show.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you career-switch to become a teacher - and the field needs these people more than ever because of teacher exodus - work experience in other fields does not "count" in the pay scale and you're paid as a first year teacher. I speak from experience...I have 15 years of experience in international trade and 2 Master's degrees (counting the one I studied for and paid for in secondary education) yet am paid as a second year teacher. This only works because my spouse makes quite a bit more than me AND we're willing to live simply. Push SB for some sort of equivalency for those coming to teaching from other professions and more people might be interested/financially able.

90% of all the openings I see are in sped, bilingual, math and science. It's these folks who need to be paid more. If private sector people come in qualified to teach these areas, they should get more pay (along with all the people already there).
And speaking of experience that doesn't count, districts balance their budgets on teachers' backs all the time. I should be paid for 25 years of experience. Instead, because I have changed districts, I get paid for 15 years experience. This means I am underpaid by about 25K. I have thought a lot about leaving. But reality is that I am 6-10 years from being able to retire and damn it, I am going to get my full pension if it kills me. Other people don't have my staying power and they are leaving. It would make sense to pay people like me, who have moved districts, for every year we've worked.

There is no way 90% are within those disciplines. I just looked and there are almost 140 postings for grades 1-6 (gen ed and AAP)

agree it's across the board

It’s easier for the average parent if they think it won’t have an impact on their kid’s classroom. It absolutely might

I feel fortunate knowing who my kid’s teacher is (Local Level 4) and that they are definitely coming back. I feel bad for any child that doesn’t have a full time teacher in August. 😢

I do, too, but that Eagle View recruitment page makes me realize why they are losing ES teachers. I never thought teaching kids could be made to seem so utterly JOYLESS. Growth mindset? Continued quality professional development? Presume positivity toward change? Jesus. What a weird combination of what sounds like financial management jargon and self-help lingo.

Do you strive to be a lifelong learner and participate in continued quality professional development that informs and enhances your practice? = You will be expected to give up your unencumbered planning time to meet with your team. Planning and grading will be done on your own time.

Do you believe in building strong relationships and trust with students and families? = When a student has difficulty following rules and expectations, fault will lie with the teacher.

Shhh. Don’t tip off the administration.

You don’t think they realize that they do this?

I'd love to know whether the admin wrote this or if some fool at Gatehouse wrote it.

I’m pretty sure schools write their own content for their web pages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a lot of hype on this thread. I have seen no other place where people are worried about staffing. This seems to be a normal year?

Nothing in:
- newsletters from school board members
- newsletters from my child’s schools
- during my child’s IEP meeting
- in the Washington Post
- FCPS news releases


I’m not convinced that this is actually a problem. Teachers come and go every year.

It has been all over the news nationwide that teachers are leaving in droves. There will be many kids starting the year without a full time teacher.

and your odds of not having a full time teacher are increased if your kid goes to Eagle View. From that recruiting page, we know that school’s admin is in the toilet.

The school is getting new admin. Someone said the principal is headed to Hunt Valley.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a lot of hype on this thread. I have seen no other place where people are worried about staffing. This seems to be a normal year?

Nothing in:
- newsletters from school board members
- newsletters from my child’s schools
- during my child’s IEP meeting
- in the Washington Post
- FCPS news releases


I’m not convinced that this is actually a problem. Teachers come and go every year.

+1 Teachers also screamed about this year, saying it would be a sh*t show and it wasn’t.

I beg to differ. It very much was a poop show.

Seems it varied from school to school. Some fared better/worse than others.