What the hell happened to JD Vance?

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Anonymous wrote:He owns two houses. One in Ohio, the other in VA.

https://www.mansionglobal.com/articles/republican-vp-nominee-j-d-vances-owns-homes-in-two-left-leaning-neighborhoods-baf0a2fd

Nevertheless, we do know they currently reside in the East Walnut Hills neighborhood of Cincinnati, Ohio, where they moved in the summer of 2018, after Usha’s Supreme Court clerkship for Chief Justice John Roberts ended, and her husband realized it would be better for them to have a full-time home as he pursued his political ambitions.
https://thecinemaholic.com/where-are-j-d-vances-wife-and-kids-now/

Vance served in the Marine Corps after graduating high school and went on to attend Ohio State University and then Yale Law School. He and his family now live in Cincinnati's East Walnut Hills neighborhood.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2024/07/15/trump-picks-jd-vance-middletown-reacts/74413860007/

Pray tell the Ohio law office his wife ever worked at? What state were the kids born in?

Wow, you're like a pitbull. I have no idea what state his kids were born in - why on earth would that be relevant to anything? As for Usha Vance, she was working for a firm based in SF and DC. Is there some stipulation that says she has to work in Ohio? Are you high?

So he's an Ohio senator whose family has never actually legitimately resided in Ohio. Got it.

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Andy Beshear on Vance: 'JD Vance has no conviction. His running mate has 34.'

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Anonymous wrote:Well, according to the KH thread, a VP just sits around in the background doing nothing, so I think JD can more than handle that. He’ll be a great VP and a voice for Americans who have been forgotten.

Ah yes, let us all shed a tear for those forgotten Yale graduates who are so marginalized in our society.

Seriously. He hobnobs with tech bros, but he's part of the "forgotten"? hm. yea. ok.

And he and wife went from California residents to Del Ray, Arlington residents. The Ohio senator and his family never actually lived in Ohio. He hasn't been an Ohio resident since college over 15 years ago.

DP. Curious - did you really think no one would call you out on your lies? He absolutely has a home in Ohio and lives there when not here in Alexandria.

CINCINNATI — There has been an increase in security at the home of Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance since the assassination attempt against former President Donald Trump, which happened Saturday at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/local/ohio/extra-security-at-home-of-ohio-sen-jd-vance-after-assassination-attempt-of-former-president-trump/95-4831853b-0ef1-4071-8598-78e9f2c68e54

Gov. Mike DeWine "approved" a request for security Saturday at 6:40 p.m., according to the governor's spokesperson, Dan Tierney. Vance lives in the Cincinnati area, so troopers are monitoring his home.
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/politics/ohio-politics/oshp-providing-extra-security-for-vice-presidential-contender-j-d-vance-following-shooting-at-trump-rally

Cool. Where have his kids been attending school?

I have no idea, but like most members of Congress, his kids probably attend school in the DC area while their parent(s) work here. Are you unaware of how many senators and representatives live in the area and send their kids to our local schools while Congress is in session? I attended a high school in NoVA and a big group of classmates were sons and daughters of senators and reps.

You do realize that Newt Gingrich, when launching his holy war against Dems in the mid '90s, did not want any GOP caucus member living in/near DC and definitely not having their family reside there. He didn't want his flock to at all associate with the opposition, let alone be friendly with them at a neighborhood gathering or a school event. And any Dems who did were branded as not being sufficiently grounded in their district, imposters, etc.

So it's not beyond the bounds to make these queries about a GOP senator who wants the names of every woman seeking reproductive care, but wraps himself and his families in the amenities provided in a blue neighborhood in a blue city.

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Anonymous wrote:The Leftist spin machine is working overtime to destroy his image. Just like it is working overtime to make Kamala look respectable.

How is she not respectable?

And LOL on the Leftist spin machine. I have a lot of "anti-Squad" Dem friends and they are taking particular delight in forwarding memes of Vance as a heterosectional.

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Anonymous wrote:My millennial daughter says JD Vance is “scaring the hoes”. Really bad pick

You mean “ho”, not “hoe.” “Hoe” is the garden tool. “Ho” is a dialect evolution if “wh**e.”

Both are correct. “Hoe” is more common than “ho,” actually.

Hmmm. When my dad asked me to get him a hoe as a kid, it was a gardening implement.

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Anonymous wrote:He's a decent dude, and his wife is great. But he's quite ambitious and made the political calculus a while ago that the National Review brand of conservatism was not a viable path for his political fortunes. He can be thoughtful and nuanced (and some of his writings reflect this, even if you do not agree with him), but nobody is buying that these days, especially with the specter of Trumpism looming. He's had to walk back a number of his anti-Trump opinions in order to try to carve out a niche. This is the calculus that has been made, but it does not appear to be working.

Look at Asha Rangappa, who was at YLS at the same time as JD and is now a twitter warrior. These things happen when visibility, attention, ambition, scrutiny and brand-building enter the mix.

As evidenced by Ted Cruz at the SCOTUS confirmation hearings recently, you would be surprised (or perhaps not) by the number of esteemed, venerable people who are completely obsessed with their twitter mentions and the concomitant attention high. Sign of the times.

+1 to all of this.

I have to say that I do really wonder about his wife and how she's dealing with this. It would be hard for impossible for me to deal with this. They seemingly moved to Ohio to be close to his roots and to work to "make things better" with your spouse who was moderate right at best. Now the dude is more or less on the Trump. I don't think I could deal.

+1 Very faustian. Sold his soul to the devil. I guess she has her own ambitions, and she is willing to sell her soul, as well.

Or is it like Pence's wife who had to deal with her husband on the same ticket as a serial cheater and immoral douche married to a softcore porn star? She was not a happy camper, from what I hear.

Both Vance and his wife were proteges of Amy Chua (the "Tiger Mom"). For both of them, the onlu thing that matters is getting ahead by any means necessary.

He talks a lot about Amy Chua in his book. She was a huge influence on him. There was an article a few or more ago about her husband and her and their relationships with students. It was damning. She's a kingmaker as is Peter Thiel. I believe Chua also told him to write a book. As I recall, she helped him with some of his social graces. He talked a lot about not knowing how to fit in, the typical example of what to do with a salad fork and dinner fork, or multiple glasses, if I'm recalling correctly. I liked the book when I read it but I remember thinking that the stuff about not knowing what to do at a fancy dinner seemed fake. You can Google that stuff before toy go.

The fork thing is literally the dumbest example because it’s what they always use in tv shows, movies or books and the answer is so simple — work from outside in. Had he never seen Pretty woman? Or any of the other dozens of movies or TV shows where this is a thing?

It might be simple to YOU but it sure wasn't to me when I was in college and had never encountered more than one fork and one knife at a plate. Why do you assume things that were easy for you were also easy for everyone else?
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Look, it wasn't simple for me either, but I didn't go out and write a whole book replete with falsehoods about my own life as well as demonstrate a total lack of understanding of the collapsing economic systems in the Rust Belt, Appalachia, and NE mill towns in the 1980s.

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Anonymous wrote:He owns two houses. One in Ohio, the other in VA.

https://www.mansionglobal.com/articles/republican-vp-nominee-j-d-vances-owns-homes-in-two-left-leaning-neighborhoods-baf0a2fd

Nevertheless, we do know they currently reside in the East Walnut Hills neighborhood of Cincinnati, Ohio, where they moved in the summer of 2018, after Usha’s Supreme Court clerkship for Chief Justice John Roberts ended, and her husband realized it would be better for them to have a full-time home as he pursued his political ambitions.
https://thecinemaholic.com/where-are-j-d-vances-wife-and-kids-now/

Vance served in the Marine Corps after graduating high school and went on to attend Ohio State University and then Yale Law School. He and his family now live in Cincinnati's East Walnut Hills neighborhood.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2024/07/15/trump-picks-jd-vance-middletown-reacts/74413860007/

Pray tell the Ohio law office his wife ever worked at? What state were the kids born in?

Wow, you're like a pitbull. I have no idea what state his kids were born in - why on earth would that be relevant to anything? As for Usha Vance, she was working for a firm based in SF and DC. Is there some stipulation that says she has to work in Ohio? Are you high?

I'm not the PP. We are simply using the standards that the GOP has ginned up to call elected Dems insufficiently committed to their states or elites or whatever slur of the month they've glommed onto.

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Anonymous wrote:My millennial daughter says JD Vance is “scaring the hoes”. Really bad pick

You mean “ho”, not “hoe.” “Hoe” is the garden tool. “Ho” is a dialect evolution if “wh**e.”

Both are correct. “Hoe” is more common than “ho,” actually.

Hmmm. When my dad asked me to get him a hoe as a kid, it was a gardening implement.

You still don't get it after all these years? He was asking you to wake your mother up!

yeah, no, but you do you.

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Anonymous wrote:The fork thing is literally the dumbest example because it’s what they always use in tv shows, movies or books and the answer is so simple — work from outside in. Had he never seen Pretty woman? Or any of the other dozens of movies or TV shows where this is a thing?

It might be simple to YOU but it sure wasn't to me when I was in college and had never encountered more than one fork and one knife at a plate. Why do you assume things that were easy for you were also easy for everyone else?
DP

This compulsive liar was not raised in a barn, he was raised in a middle class suburb. Then he "served" 4 years stateside desk duty, then 2 years in Columbus at OSU, where he interned for congressmen. You think the first time this dork had a proper restaurant meal was in his mid to late 20s in law school? Give me a break. He did not need a creepy over-involved law professor and her me-too'd husband to teach him how to use a fork in New Haven. This is so clearly a cliche fabrication pulled from thin air, just like the rest of his fake memoir. The guy is a serial plagiarist and fabricator.

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Anonymous wrote:He owns two houses. One in Ohio, the other in VA.

https://www.mansionglobal.com/articles/republican-vp-nominee-j-d-vances-owns-homes-in-two-left-leaning-neighborhoods-baf0a2fd

Nevertheless, we do know they currently reside in the East Walnut Hills neighborhood of Cincinnati, Ohio, where they moved in the summer of 2018, after Usha’s Supreme Court clerkship for Chief Justice John Roberts ended, and her husband realized it would be better for them to have a full-time home as he pursued his political ambitions.
https://thecinemaholic.com/where-are-j-d-vances-wife-and-kids-now/

Vance served in the Marine Corps after graduating high school and went on to attend Ohio State University and then Yale Law School. He and his family now live in Cincinnati's East Walnut Hills neighborhood.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2024/07/15/trump-picks-jd-vance-middletown-reacts/74413860007/

The kids go to school in VA, wife works for a DC law firm. They don’t live in Ohio and never have. And never will. Read his book, he clearly despises flyover people. And a California high caste Indian like his wife would never in a million years live in Ohio.

People commenting have clearly never read this book. I read it when it came out because it got crazy press as "how to understand how Trump came to be." The first 2/3rds are kind of a (not necessarily truthful?) Sob story but the conclusion is, "they're generally irredeemable, generationally effed rubes who did and continue to do this to themselves so...write them off. If they want out they can bootstrap it, but in general they're just worthless pieces of shit, so who really cares? I got out and I am NOT going back."

Also, I got the feeling that he was done with his mom because of her drug addiction and I did not think that was unreasonable becauseshe sounded awful in the book. Sounds like she got sober so that's good, I guess. But as a recovering alcoholic of many years, I wouldn't want someone talking about it to others, let alone to the nation. I'm sure others disagree but that was my reaction.

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Anonymous wrote:He owns two houses. One in Ohio, the other in VA.

https://www.mansionglobal.com/articles/republican-vp-nominee-j-d-vances-owns-homes-in-two-left-leaning-neighborhoods-baf0a2fd

Nevertheless, we do know they currently reside in the East Walnut Hills neighborhood of Cincinnati, Ohio, where they moved in the summer of 2018, after Usha’s Supreme Court clerkship for Chief Justice John Roberts ended, and her husband realized it would be better for them to have a full-time home as he pursued his political ambitions.
https://thecinemaholic.com/where-are-j-d-vances-wife-and-kids-now/

Vance served in the Marine Corps after graduating high school and went on to attend Ohio State University and then Yale Law School. He and his family now live in Cincinnati's East Walnut Hills neighborhood.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2024/07/15/trump-picks-jd-vance-middletown-reacts/74413860007/

The kids go to school in VA, wife works for a DC law firm. They don’t live in Ohio and never have. And never will. Read his book, he clearly despises flyover people. And a California high caste Indian like his wife would never in a million years live in Ohio.

People commenting have clearly never read this book. I read it when it came out because it got crazy press as "how to understand how Trump came to be." The first 2/3rds are kind of a (not necessarily truthful?) Sob story but the conclusion is, "they're generally irredeemable, generationally effed rubes who did and continue to do this to themselves so...write them off. If they want out they can bootstrap it, but in general they're just worthless pieces of shit, so who really cares? I got out and I am NOT going back."

Also, I got the feeling that he was done with his mom because of her drug addiction and I did not think that was unreasonable becauseshe sounded awful in the book. Sounds like she got sober so that's good, I guess. But as a recovering alcoholic of many years, I wouldn't want someone talking about it to others, let alone to the nation. I'm sure others disagree but that was my reaction.

There is no verification of anything in his book. Just his and her word. And many lies he told have already been exposed. She was likely paid handsomely to go along with his fake narrative.

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The absolute whining from right-ring clowns pretending the "left" is the reason they have dogsh*t running and continuing to destroy the GOP.

JD Vance and Trump are both disgraces. There is something wrong with YOU if you can't see this. You have an abnormal, despicable ideology which in no way is a reflection of AMERICAN VALUES. You embrace corruption at the highest level. You don't believe in freedom or voting for Americans.

My God, you have no shame at this point. If a liberal judge so much as got a pen from a lobbying group, you psychos would be shrieking at the top of your lungs. Instead, you think it's perfectly normal what Clarence Thomas has done, not to mention that pos Cannon.

The only good thing is that if Vance gets his way, Ginni *Terrorist* Thomas isn't allowed to vote again. Let her sit home w/ cats and the filthy checks Leo gets for her and her corrupt husband.

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Anonymous wrote:He owns two houses. One in Ohio, the other in VA.

https://www.mansionglobal.com/articles/republican-vp-nominee-j-d-vances-owns-homes-in-two-left-leaning-neighborhoods-baf0a2fd

Nevertheless, we do know they currently reside in the East Walnut Hills neighborhood of Cincinnati, Ohio, where they moved in the summer of 2018, after Usha’s Supreme Court clerkship for Chief Justice John Roberts ended, and her husband realized it would be better for them to have a full-time home as he pursued his political ambitions.
https://thecinemaholic.com/where-are-j-d-vances-wife-and-kids-now/

Vance served in the Marine Corps after graduating high school and went on to attend Ohio State University and then Yale Law School. He and his family now live in Cincinnati's East Walnut Hills neighborhood.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2024/07/15/trump-picks-jd-vance-middletown-reacts/74413860007/

Pray tell the Ohio law office his wife ever worked at? What state were the kids born in?

DP. Are you ok? Because last I checked, senators and representatives usually have their main residence where they work (DC). Like, for instance, Chris Murphy (D). Educate yourself.

Murphy, like other lawmakers with young children, keeps his main residence in Washington, because that’s where he spends a majority of his time.

https://ctnewsjunkie.com/2020/08/17/20200817_senator_murphy_purchases_a_home_in_hartford/

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Anonymous wrote:He's a decent dude, and his wife is great. But he's quite ambitious and made the political calculus a while ago that the National Review brand of conservatism was not a viable path for his political fortunes. He can be thoughtful and nuanced (and some of his writings reflect this, even if you do not agree with him), but nobody is buying that these days, especially with the specter of Trumpism looming. He's had to walk back a number of his anti-Trump opinions in order to try to carve out a niche. This is the calculus that has been made, but it does not appear to be working.

Look at Asha Rangappa, who was at YLS at the same time as JD and is now a twitter warrior. These things happen when visibility, attention, ambition, scrutiny and brand-building enter the mix.

As evidenced by Ted Cruz at the SCOTUS confirmation hearings recently, you would be surprised (or perhaps not) by the number of esteemed, venerable people who are completely obsessed with their twitter mentions and the concomitant attention high. Sign of the times.

+1 to all of this.

I have to say that I do really wonder about his wife and how she's dealing with this. It would be hard for impossible for me to deal with this. They seemingly moved to Ohio to be close to his roots and to work to "make things better" with your spouse who was moderate right at best. Now the dude is more or less on the Trump. I don't think I could deal.

+1 Very faustian. Sold his soul to the devil. I guess she has her own ambitions, and she is willing to sell her soul, as well.

Or is it like Pence's wife who had to deal with her husband on the same ticket as a serial cheater and immoral douche married to a softcore porn star? She was not a happy camper, from what I hear.

Both Vance and his wife were proteges of Amy Chua (the "Tiger Mom"). For both of them, the onlu thing that matters is getting ahead by any means necessary.

He talks a lot about Amy Chua in his book. She was a huge influence on him. There was an article a few or more ago about her husband and her and their relationships with students. It was damning. She's a kingmaker as is Peter Thiel. I believe Chua also told him to write a book. As I recall, she helped him with some of his social graces. He talked a lot about not knowing how to fit in, the typical example of what to do with a salad fork and dinner fork, or multiple glasses, if I'm recalling correctly. I liked the book when I read it but I remember thinking that the stuff about not knowing what to do at a fancy dinner seemed fake. You can Google that stuff before toy go.

The fork thing is literally the dumbest example because it’s what they always use in tv shows, movies or books and the answer is so simple — work from outside in. Had he never seen Pretty woman? Or any of the other dozens of movies or TV shows where this is a thing?

It might be simple to YOU but it sure wasn't to me when I was in college and had never encountered more than one fork and one knife at a plate. Why do you assume things that were easy for you were also easy for everyone else?
DP

+1 Me too. I come from an immigrant family and was wined and dined as a college graduate from an Ivy when I was being interviewed and found those expensive dinners stressful. When do you think the average lower middle class American goes out to dinners where there are 3 forks to use?

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I’m from a fairly UMC family and can’t remember the last time I was at an event which had a very formal, multiple utensil meal.

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Anonymous wrote:The absolute whining from right-ring clowns pretending the "left" is the reason they have dogsh*t running and continuing to destroy the GOP.

JD Vance and Trump are both disgraces. There is something wrong with YOU if you can't see this. You have an abnormal, despicable ideology which in no way is a reflection of AMERICAN VALUES. You embrace corruption at the highest level. You don't believe in freedom or voting for Americans.

My God, you have no shame at this point. If a liberal judge so much as got a pen from a lobbying group, you psychos would be shrieking at the top of your lungs. Instead, you think it's perfectly normal what Clarence Thomas has done, not to mention that pos Cannon.

The only good thing is that if Vance gets his way, Ginni *Terrorist* Thomas isn't allowed to vote again. Let her sit home w/ cats and the filthy checks Leo gets for her and her corrupt husband.

Right, Gunny and Clarence won't be able to vote because have no kids. Great idea, JD!

She still has Lifespting though.