Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 4

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can see a narrow staircase in a picture on Zillow below:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3333-Tennyson-St-NW-Washington-DC-20015/452556_zpid/


Picture 5 is a narrow staircase. The description of the house says the Family Rom is on 1st Floor.


Stop it! If this is not for sure Timmy's house--I'm a Dem but--please don't muddy the waters here.
Anonymous
By November the House will be a deep, rich blue, and by February it will release the FBI report and all communications involved, sparking renewed fury.

But by June Kavanaugh will be releasing opinions fundamentally altering our country

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:By November the House will be a deep, rich blue, and by February it will release the FBI report and all communications involved, sparking renewed fury.

But by June Kavanaugh will be releasing opinions fundamentally altering our country



By July the boys will have a beach week reunion. Squi and Timmy and Tommy and PJ and Marky Mark and Justice Special K!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Still reading Spy the Lie and now my teenager is reading it too. Literally every technique for lying, Kavanaugh used in the hearing. I think he used the book.

Compelling.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The generational divide--the (white) women who support BK think that boys will be boys. They see their sons in BK.


Or they see their husbands lol. All the supervisory men at my firm treat women like crap and 90% of them are sleeping with younger women.


So then all those younger women are sleeping with married men. But somehow, they’re the “victims,” right??

Honestly, one day you stupid millennial women will wake up and see what idiots you’ve been and what a looney world you’ve created - one in which anyone can accuse anyone of something heinous, with no proof needed. I truly hope karma comes back to bite you, and I’m quite sure it will.


+100
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can see a narrow staircase in a picture on Zillow below:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3333-Tennyson-St-NW-Washington-DC-20015/452556_zpid/


Picture 5 is a narrow staircase. The description of the house says the Family Rom is on 1st Floor.


I lived in a carbon copy of this house in the early 1990's down the street. The layout is exactly as Ford had described it.


If this is for sure Timmy's house--wow. This is bad for Kavanaugh..
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:By November the House will be a deep, rich blue, and by February it will release the FBI report and all communications involved, sparking renewed fury.

But by June Kavanaugh will be releasing opinions fundamentally altering our country



By July the boys will have a beach week reunion. Squi and Timmy and Tommy and PJ and Marky Mark and Justice Special K!


Don't for get Donkey Dong Doug and Handsy Hank.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can see a narrow staircase in a picture on Zillow below:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3333-Tennyson-St-NW-Washington-DC-20015/452556_zpid/


Picture 5 is a narrow staircase. The description of the house says the Family Rom is on 1st Floor.


I lived in a carbon copy of this house in the early 1990's down the street. The layout is exactly as Ford had described it.


If this is for sure Timmy's house--wow. This is bad for Kavanaugh..


It is not timmy's house ffs it is the house that Mark Judge's grandparents lived in at the time and bizarrely Mike Pence rented it during the transition in 2016-17

so effing do your research before you comment on this sht ok????
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The generational divide--the (white) women who support BK think that boys will be boys. They see their sons in BK.


Or they see their husbands lol. All the supervisory men at my firm treat women like crap and 90% of them are sleeping with younger women.


So then all those younger women are sleeping with married men. But somehow, they’re the “victims,” right??

Honestly, one day you stupid millennial women will wake up and see what idiots you’ve been and what a looney world you’ve created - one in which anyone can accuse anyone of something heinous, with no proof needed. I truly hope karma comes back to bite you, and I’m quite sure it will.


What you seem not to appreciate or perhaps don't care about is that the chances of being accused of a man being falsely accused of sexual harassment are microscopic compared to a woman's chance of being sexually harassed. So if these "millennial women" decrease the chances of being sexually harassed, even if the chances of raising the chance of false accusation somewhat, then that's probably an overall win.


Uh, no. Also, major word salad.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rape in private, boys, and you'll be just fine.

Even though the number of false accusations by women is microscopic compared to the number of sexual assaults committed by men, Kavanaugh enthusiasts are exclusively focused on the very small problem and give no indication of giving a shit about the very big problem.

Look at the number of posts we've seen that claim there is "no corroboration." And, let's be clear, they don't say "Ford's claim has not been corroborated to my satisfaction." They are emphatic that it's *no* corroboration.

"The testimony of a witness is said to be corroborated when it is shown to correspond with the representation of some other witnesses, or to comport with some facts otherwise known or established."

Corroborating evidence includes:
- Ford’s description of Kavanaugh’s drinking buddies,

- Kavanaugh’s July 1 calendar entry that describes his plans to go to “Timmy’s for skis with Judge, Tom, P.J. Bernie and … Squi,”

-Mark Judge’s memoir outlining his and “Bart O’Kavanaugh’s” drinking habits,

-Kavanaugh’s Beach Week letter discussing “prolific pukers.” There is a slew of other evidence corroborating Ford’s claims. (Seth Abramson wrote a detailed Twitter thread about all the corroborating evidence; it is worth reading.)

-The fact that Brett’s claims that he was a virgin who never drank to excess are belied by his own statements about how much he likes beer, and the statements of his high school and college pals that he was frequently drunk and bragged about his sexual prowess. Evidence that lessens Kavanaugh’s credibility and enhances Ford’s credibility is corroborating evidence.

There is corroboration. Repeatedly and falsely claiming that there is none (rather than arguing that the corroboration is insufficiently convincing) will serve to discourage any woman who doesn't get raped or sexually harassed in front of witnesses who are friendly to her.


Sigh. Beautifully written, but nobody wants to dispassionate examen the facts we have. We have become a nation where we don't even know how to look for the truth.

+1
The people claiming there’s no proof are being willfully blind and it’s incredibly frustrating.


The people who don't know what proof and corroboration mean are incredibly frustrating. There is no corroboration or proof of Ford having been assaulted by Kavanaugh. Kavanaugh drinking in high school, Ford knowing his friend's names...none of that is proof of sexual assault.


but see... you seem not to care about what the truth is. there is the legal system. it is not set out to find the truth. It is set up to protect rights. But then there is the truth. and people who claim it is obvious that he is a great guy are deluded. clearly this is a case where it is difficult to see the truth, even if it is easy to see what the legal ramifications are.


The only facts here are that he has be accused of assault. That's it. It's unfortunate, I don't think he's a great guy, I don't think he belongs on the Supreme Court but i can see both sides to this story. I can't choose a side because it's simply he said/she said. Is he capable of the conduct, maybe. Is it ossicle she's got her story mixed up, maybe. There is no other truth then that. So, when suggesting that the truth exists, make sure it's the actual truth that you are believing and not one that you think you have logically come to.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can see a narrow staircase in a picture on Zillow below:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3333-Tennyson-St-NW-Washington-DC-20015/452556_zpid/


Picture 5 is a narrow staircase. The description of the house says the Family Rom is on 1st Floor.


I lived in a carbon copy of this house in the early 1990's down the street. The layout is exactly as Ford had described it.


If this is for sure Timmy's house--wow. This is bad for Kavanaugh..

For the love: Timmy’s house is someplace up 270. Keep up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the vote will be moved to Sunday now. They can't afford to lose even one vote.


Yowzzaa. There will be a million people protesting in DC Saturday.


Seriously? I have kids to drive around on Saturday afternoon in NW DC.



Gee, sorry to inconvenience your sightseeing trip, but the future of the American justice system is on the line here
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rape in private, boys, and you'll be just fine.

Even though the number of false accusations by women is microscopic compared to the number of sexual assaults committed by men, Kavanaugh enthusiasts are exclusively focused on the very small problem and give no indication of giving a shit about the very big problem.

Look at the number of posts we've seen that claim there is "no corroboration." And, let's be clear, they don't say "Ford's claim has not been corroborated to my satisfaction." They are emphatic that it's *no* corroboration.

"The testimony of a witness is said to be corroborated when it is shown to correspond with the representation of some other witnesses, or to comport with some facts otherwise known or established."

Corroborating evidence includes:
- Ford’s description of Kavanaugh’s drinking buddies,

- Kavanaugh’s July 1 calendar entry that describes his plans to go to “Timmy’s for skis with Judge, Tom, P.J. Bernie and … Squi,”

-Mark Judge’s memoir outlining his and “Bart O’Kavanaugh’s” drinking habits,

-Kavanaugh’s Beach Week letter discussing “prolific pukers.” There is a slew of other evidence corroborating Ford’s claims. (Seth Abramson wrote a detailed Twitter thread about all the corroborating evidence; it is worth reading.)

-The fact that Brett’s claims that he was a virgin who never drank to excess are belied by his own statements about how much he likes beer, and the statements of his high school and college pals that he was frequently drunk and bragged about his sexual prowess. Evidence that lessens Kavanaugh’s credibility and enhances Ford’s credibility is corroborating evidence.

There is corroboration. Repeatedly and falsely claiming that there is none (rather than arguing that the corroboration is insufficiently convincing) will serve to discourage any woman who doesn't get raped or sexually harassed in front of witnesses who are friendly to her.


Sigh. Beautifully written, but nobody wants to dispassionate examen the facts we have. We have become a nation where we don't even know how to look for the truth.

+1
The people claiming there’s no proof are being willfully blind and it’s incredibly frustrating.


The people who don't know what proof and corroboration mean are incredibly frustrating. There is no corroboration or proof of Ford having been assaulted by Kavanaugh. Kavanaugh drinking in high school, Ford knowing his friend's names...none of that is proof of sexual assault.


but see... you seem not to care about what the truth is. there is the legal system. it is not set out to find the truth. It is set up to protect rights. But then there is the truth. and people who claim it is obvious that he is a great guy are deluded. clearly this is a case where it is difficult to see the truth, even if it is easy to see what the legal ramifications are.


The only facts here are that he has be accused of assault. That's it. It's unfortunate, I don't think he's a great guy, I don't think he belongs on the Supreme Court but i can see both sides to this story. I can't choose a side because it's simply he said/she said. Is he capable of the conduct, maybe. Is it ossicle she's got her story mixed up, maybe. There is no other truth then that. So, when suggesting that the truth exists, make sure it's the actual truth that you are believing and not one that you think you have logically come to.

You are probably the most sane person on this board. Cheers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

The people who don't know what proof and corroboration mean are incredibly frustrating. There is no corroboration or proof of Ford having been assaulted by Kavanaugh. Kavanaugh drinking in high school, Ford knowing his friend's names...none of that is proof of sexual assault.


Yes it is. Proof is evidence. Ford testified under oath that she was 100% certain it was Kavanaugh who sexually assaulted her. Her testimony is evidence. All of the other evidence that tends to support the details of her testimony -- that he got extremely drunk, that he ran with a certain group of guys, that those people tended to gather together at parties - is corroboration. "The testimony of a witness is said to be corroborated when it is shown to correspond with the representation of some other witnesses, or to comport with some facts otherwise known or established." If she's being honest about the surrounding details, it adds to an inference that the main assertion is also true.

Again, it may be too weak to establish, in your opinion, that Kavanaugh assaulted her. That's not irrational. But, "no proof" is simply not true. There is evidence.
Anonymous
His WSJ op-ed is tepid and pathetic.
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