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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m a D but one who doesn’t want to get rid of advanced but nevertheless voted for McA. I remember the VPMI fiasco and I’m too smart to be gaslighted. [b]I know they were considering it and changed their mind with the backlash and that it was dumb to say this was a made up issue. [/b]

Headline of the online NYT this morning:

California Tries to Close the Gap in Math, but Sets Off a Backlash

Proposed guidelines in the state would de-emphasize calculus, reject the idea that some children are naturally gifted and build a connection to social justice. Critics say math shouldn’t be political.

The California guidelines, which are not binding, could overhaul the way many school districts approach math instruction. The draft rejected the idea of naturally gifted children, recommended against shifting certain students into accelerated courses in middle school and tried to promote high-level math courses that could serve as alternatives to calculus, like data science or statistics.

You people will never understand but that was why some people voted R. Because it is a risk with the Ds. Don’t deny that by saying it’s not happening and gaslighting. At least be genuine and say it was considered and discarded and the Ds are really really not considering it again and it’s not a risk with them.[/quote]

Who said they weren’t considering some amount of tracking? They were. It was definitely discussed. That doesn’t mean they were “banning advanced math / acceleration”. They always included AP/IB as options, which are advanced math options.

The whole point was that there wasn’t an actual plan at that point - they were just discussing a variety of topics related to updating the math curriculum. They also discussed adding other tracks, blending concepts, etc. Detracking wasn’t even the main topic - it didn’t even make the infographic. Wayback machine has screenshot if you want to verify.

And even long after it was squashed, people are still saying the VMPI is trying to take away advanced math. Like a conspiracy theory. 
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I think the people who voted R wanted to make sure if the Ds in power - they didn’t reconsider. And that was / is a realistic risk with Ds.[/quote]
This. It is disingenuous to suggest that revisiting the issue was not a possibility had the Dems run the table. Just like “defund the police”, the Dems keep floating ideas that the majority of people find to be too far left, and then have to scramble claiming oh we didn’t mean THAT, when there is a backlash to it. Let’s be real, if there hadn’t been such backlash to these ideas, they would have pushed forward with them because there is a substantial flank of the Democratic Party that believes in them. [/quote]

No one said that detracking was never discussed.  :roll: 
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You can continue to play the semantics game with what is “happening” or discussed” but the point remains that it was “discussed” because Dems wanted it to “happen” and many parents wanted to ensure that it wouldn’t “happen” so they voted Republican.[/quote]

If you are going to continue to be misleading then we will continue to “play semantics”.

“Dems” didn’t want this to happen. This isn’t on the party platform. There aren’t Ds running around Virginia with “detracking” license plates on their car.

Yes, some people who are likely Dems thought it was a good idea and brought it up for discussion, along with other topics. They didn’t try to force it on anyone. Heck, they didn’t even include it on their website or infographic. Who said they thought it was a bad idea? Lots of Ds. Who ultimately took it off the table? A Dem (assuming Lane is a D).

And they were certainly never “banning advanced math”.

You won. It worked. You can stop the relentless BS now.

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I'm not so much trying to BS as I am trying to explain what happened to the Ds so they don't do it again.[/quote]

Yes, it’s clear that the Ds should have done more to fight the misinformation and BS.

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IMO you have to recognize the kernels of truth to fight it. Truth is subjective. This is a really clear example to me. The Ds think CRT is not being taught and the Rs think it is - and they’re both right. [/quote]

Isn't that what makes disinformation so effective? They are just enough [i]hints[/i] of truth to make it believable, but it is not [i]actually[/i] true. It's BS. 
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That's why you gotta listen to people, hear their concerns, instead of telling them to sit down and shut up and that they're a bunch of morons.[/quote]

We did. In good faith. Many times.

That didn’t stop the Rs from relentlessly pushing misinformation. 
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DP.  Where, exactly, is the misinformation in 00:16?  [/quote]

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