DA vs ECNL vs everything else

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ So yes, if you believe player development is a place that collects already developed talent then yes FCV is for you.

Of course they do - as would every other program that would be of interest to top talent. No one is shelling out all this money so no cuts will be made . It is the opposite. Why do you think a top talent would even want to move teams? Maybe the old team would not make cuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ So yes, if you believe player development is a place that collects already developed talent then yes FCV is for you.

Of course they do - as would every other program that would be of interest to top talent. No one is shelling out all this money so no cuts will be made . It is the opposite. Why do you think a top talent would even want to move teams? Maybe the old team would not make cuts.

Then FCV should just say that. But the truth is you can't claim as a club you developed a team when over 50% of the kids came from somewhere else and trained for 6 years someplace else. What you are as a club is an excellent recruiting club NOT a developing club.

So to the PP if FCV is on your radar and your kid is 10 by all means develop anywhere else because it won't matter when your kid is 14. Going to FCV earlier would not have made a bit a of difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ So yes, if you believe player development is a place that collects already developed talent then yes FCV is for you.

Of course they do - as would every other program that would be of interest to top talent. No one is shelling out all this money so no cuts will be made . It is the opposite. Why do you think a top talent would even want to move teams? Maybe the old team would not make cuts.

Then FCV should just say that. But the truth is you can't claim as a club you developed a team when over 50% of the kids came from somewhere else and trained for 6 years someplace else. What you are as a club is an excellent recruiting club NOT a developing club.

So to the PP if FCV is on your radar and your kid is 10 by all means develop anywhere else because it won't matter when your kid is 14. Going to FCV earlier would not have made a bit a of difference.

I do not get this at all. Then why would any club hold tryouts? Why would any player every move to a new coach or team? You seem to think this is like simply following a recipe and it all comes down to the cook. The raw ingredients must be factored in to how the final product turns out.

[Anonymous]

Ask any parent with multiple players about this. Mine were the same gender as well. Same club, same coaching even. They did not develop the same at all. They bring different inherent strengths and weakness to the game. Some will excel at soccer and some - lets just say - will excel at something else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ So yes, if you believe player development is a place that collects already developed talent then yes FCV is for you.

Of course they do - as would every other program that would be of interest to top talent. No one is shelling out all this money so no cuts will be made . It is the opposite. Why do you think a top talent would even want to move teams? Maybe the old team would not make cuts.

Then FCV should just say that. But the truth is you can't claim as a club you developed a team when over 50% of the kids came from somewhere else and trained for 6 years someplace else. What you are as a club is an excellent recruiting club NOT a developing club.

So to the PP if FCV is on your radar and your kid is 10 by all means develop anywhere else because it won't matter when your kid is 14. Going to FCV earlier would not have made a bit a of difference.

I do not get this at all. Then why would any club hold tryouts? Why would any player every move to a new coach or team? You seem to think this is like simply following a recipe and it all comes down to the cook. The raw ingredients must be factored in to how the final product turns out.

There is no recipe. They will simply take outside kids and claim they develop.

Look, if you want to play on a team that wins, by all means go to FCV. But odds are your kid was developed someplace else. If you are in FCV and young then you better be in the top five by U13 or you stand a good chance of being replaced by U16. If you are a bench player at U13/U14 consider yourself cut.

[Anonymous]

By high school age, players want to play on a team that wins because they have strong interested players that can take what they learn in practice and execute it successfully enough that it yields results. Could not give a crap about a "win" against a weak team. That is meaningless and the players know it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:By high school age, players want to play on a team that wins because they have strong interested players that can take what they learn in practice and execute it successfully enough that it yields results. Could not give a crap about a "win" against a weak team. That is meaningless and the players know it.

Again, the OP asked about "Development" in regards to FCV.FCV collects players they do not develop them.

Go to FCV later if you want to "win" a showcase where college coaches never look at the score, or recruit a team, if you wish. But don't believe that FCV developed your player. Odds are you did that someplace else already.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ So yes, if you believe player development is a place that collects already developed talent then yes FCV is for you.

Of course they do - as would every other program that would be of interest to top talent. No one is shelling out all this money so no cuts will be made . It is the opposite. Why do you think a top talent would even want to move teams? Maybe the old team would not make cuts.

Then FCV should just say that. But the truth is you can't claim as a club you developed a team when over 50% of the kids came from somewhere else and trained for 6 years someplace else. What you are as a club is an excellent recruiting club NOT a developing club.

So to the PP if FCV is on your radar and your kid is 10 by all means develop anywhere else because it won't matter when your kid is 14. Going to FCV earlier would not have made a bit a of difference.

I do not get this at all. Then why would any club hold tryouts? Why would any player every move to a new coach or team? You seem to think this is like simply following a recipe and it all comes down to the cook. The raw ingredients must be factored in to how the final product turns out.

There is no recipe. They will simply take outside kids and claim they develop.

Look, if you want to play on a team that wins, by all means go to FCV. But odds are your kid was developed someplace else. If you are in FCV and young then you better be in the top five by U13 or you stand a good chance of being replaced by U16. If you are a bench player at U13/U14 consider yourself cut.

This development is happening with specific coaches not specific clubs. After the coach, the surrounding players and then the platform are next most important in DEVELOPMENT. I left out environment, because a top coach should provide a top environment.

If you know your way around the youth soccer scene in DC Metro for both boys and girls, you know which coaches develop and which just recruit and play to just get results.

If you want development, just bust your tail to get your kids playing for these few and far between coaches. Coaching license, club name, professional playing experience means nothing unless the coach is doing good work. PERIOD.

[Anonymous]

OK fair - how does this top coach selecting their players? Does she keep a player she is developing out of loyalty on the team and cut a new and better player that would like to join the team? i

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK fair - how does this top coach selecting their players? Does she keep a player she is developing out of loyalty on the team and cut a new and better player that would like to join the team? i

If you are keeping lesser players for the sake of "loyalty" then you aren't running an elite program and your mentality is not elite. For roughly equal players, the tie should go to the player that has been there.

Are you suggesting that if you make the top team at U9, you should get to stay there for life?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK fair - how does this top coach selecting their players? Does she keep a player she is developing out of loyalty on the team and cut a new and better player that would like to join the team? i

The question you should be asking is, "if she had developed her player as she claimed she could then the new player would not be "better" in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK fair - how does this top coach selecting their players? Does she keep a player she is developing out of loyalty on the team and cut a new and better player that would like to join the team? i

The question you should be asking is, "if she had developed her player as she claimed she could then the new player would not be "better" in the first place.

Development is not just up to the coaches...the player and the family need to buy in as well. I have a hard time understanding how some parents don't see that their child needs to commit to being an elite player too and sometimes, that isn't enough...maybe the talent just isn't there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OK fair - how does this top coach selecting their players? Does she keep a player she is developing out of loyalty on the team and cut a new and better player that would like to join the team? i

If you are keeping lesser players for the sake of "loyalty" then you aren't running an elite program and your mentality is not elite. For roughly equal players, the tie should go to the player that has been there.

Are you suggesting that if you make the top team at U9, you should get to stay there for life?

No, but if you developed the players then a majority of kids on your eventual DA roster should have been a part of the U9-U10-U11 player pool.

Adding 55% or more outside kids at U13-U14 is not a club that developed their players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK fair - how does this top coach selecting their players? Does she keep a player she is developing out of loyalty on the team and cut a new and better player that would like to join the team? i

The question you should be asking is, "if she had developed her player as she claimed she could then the new player would not be "better" in the first place.

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That makes no sense at all. The very best soccer academies in the world have some players that make it ans some that do not. they absolutely discard teens that have been getting the advantages of their world class development.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK fair - how does this top coach selecting their players? Does she keep a player she is developing out of loyalty on the team and cut a new and better player that would like to join the team? i

If you are keeping lesser players for the sake of "loyalty" then you aren't running an elite program and your mentality is not elite. For roughly equal players, the tie should go to the player that has been there.

Are you suggesting that if you make the top team at U9, you should get to stay there for life?

No, but if you developed the players then a majority of kids on your eventual DA roster should have been a part of the U9-U10-U11 player pool.

Adding 55% or more outside kids at U13-U14 is not a club that developed their players.

That is assuming that the most talented kids were in your U9 - U11 pool to begin with. That is absurd to assume. At the youngest ages, most families are staying closer to home geographically. And that is just one factor.