Fire in upper NW?

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday when I checked out the sister's FB page I was able to locate the brother's page. His last post appeared on May 9. It was a post regarding martial arts.

hmm, that's pretty interesting considering Savopoulos was getting ready to open a martial arts studio...

I thought so as well when I read it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm no legal historian, but can anyone think of a case in the last 50 years with a fact pattern as horrific as this? It feels like this may be the worst sort of murder (torture of a child coupled with the fire), in DC history.

I'm pretty sure a criminal has killed a family (definitely a mother and child) in DC after holding and menacing them overnight. And I am not sure there was torture of a child. The body was burned beyond recognition. I imagine that is one of the facts that police chief is saying is out there but not correct.

I'm in this thread because I am obsessed with the horror of this too, but similarly horrible things like this happen every couple of years. This one is especially visible because of the family's demographics. They were living the perfect, charmed life, and then this.

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Anonymous wrote:Was it some kind of silent helicopter that followed the cars?

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So has there been any discussion yet on these boards about moving the trial? No doubt the defense will argue that but where in the world could they move it to? I cannot fathom what that jury will see during a trial. Can the defense waive a jury trial if he doesn't plead guilty? I can't imagine how anyone on his legal team would think bringing this in front of a jury would be a smart move.

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Does anyone know what that picture is that Dillion is using as his profile picture on FB? Is it from a movie? It looks like a white guy in a mask, but I'm not very up on popular culture so don't know. It's extremely creepy looking.

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There have been studies that show a significant percentage of violent criminals have sustained head injuries, perhaps at a young age when skull still taking shape. Not at all excusing behavior but could be the odd shape of his head.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/traumatic-brain-injury-prison/

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Anonymous wrote:So has there been any discussion yet on these boards about moving the trial? No doubt the defense will argue that but where in the world could they move it to? I cannot fathom what that jury will see during a trial. Can the defense waive a jury trial if he doesn't plead guilty? I can't imagine how anyone on his legal team would think bringing this in front of a jury would be a smart move.

I live in TN. They definitely do not want to tried here

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Anonymous wrote:So has there been any discussion yet on these boards about moving the trial? No doubt the defense will argue that but where in the world could they move it to? I cannot fathom what that jury will see during a trial. Can the defense waive a jury trial if he doesn't plead guilty? I can't imagine how anyone on his legal team would think bringing this in front of a jury would be a smart move.

I live in TN. They definitely do not want to tried here

TN? Just curious -- did u used to live in DC? How did you end up on DCUM?

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Anonymous wrote:That lawyer is on CNN. Someone needs to get him a muzzle.

How dare he say "the pizza crust was found outside and the murder took place inside the home"

All he keeps saying is Daron has no convictions. He desperately wants camera time. I'm turning.

I saw him on Megyn Kelly last night and can’t believe what a joke he is.
Yes, people have the presumption of innocence until proven guilty, but to call him a “nice guy” and to pretty much deny other crimes this scumbag has committed is over the top.
He gives lawyers a bad name.

"Ficker" means "f***er" in German. The name definitely fits this motherf***er. This is why people hate criminal defense lawyers - I know that our judicial system requires it, but it's sickening that this animal who tortured and burned a 10 year old will have someone fighting for his acquittal.

why is it sickening? the burden is on the state to prove the case, and more often than not, the correct outcome is reached.

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Anonymous wrote:The judicial system in this country absolutely sucks.

how? and how related to this case? nothing has even happened yet.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So has there been any discussion yet on these boards about moving the trial? No doubt the defense will argue that but where in the world could they move it to? I cannot fathom what that jury will see during a trial. Can the defense waive a jury trial if he doesn't plead guilty? I can't imagine how anyone on his legal team would think bringing this in front of a jury would be a smart move.

I live in TN. They definitely do not want to tried here

TN? Just curious -- did u used to live in DC? How did you end up on DCUM?

When I first heard about the crime, I was so shocked I started researching the crime. This board popped up on a Google search. I have been following it ever since. I enjoy reading local opinions. I find it more informational than a standard news report.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That lawyer is on CNN. Someone needs to get him a muzzle.

How dare he say "the pizza crust was found outside and the murder took place inside the home"

All he keeps saying is Daron has no convictions. He desperately wants camera time. I'm turning.

I saw him on Megyn Kelly last night and can’t believe what a joke he is.
Yes, people have the presumption of innocence until proven guilty, but to call him a “nice guy” and to pretty much deny other crimes this scumbag has committed is over the top.
He gives lawyers a bad name.

"Ficker" means "f***er" in German. The name definitely fits this motherf***er. This is why people hate criminal defense lawyers - I know that our judicial system requires it, but it's sickening that this animal who tortured and burned a 10 year old will have someone fighting for his acquittal.

He's not an animal. He's doing his job. Defense attorneys are just as important as prosecutors, Nancy Grace.

So tell us, Johnnie Cochran, exactly how you would defend Daron Wint. Let me guess - he is not guilty by reason of insanity. He ate Twinkies and they made him crazy. He had a deprived childhood. It wasn't him, it was his brother. He didn't mean to kill any of these people - things just got out of hand.

this is such an ignorant perspective. no matter how horrible the crime, everyone is entitled to a fervent defense.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what that picture is that Dillion is using as his profile picture on FB? Is it from a movie? It looks like a white guy in a mask, but I'm not very up on popular culture so don't know. It's extremely creepy looking.

Movie: The Mask with Jim Carrey

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yesterday when I checked out the sister's FB page I was able to locate the brother's page. His last post appeared on May 9. It was a post regarding martial arts.

hmm, that's pretty interesting considering Savopoulos was getting ready to open a martial arts studio...

I thought so as well when I read it.

Interesting, what's his brother's name? Does he have a different last name?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That lawyer is on CNN. Someone needs to get him a muzzle.

How dare he say "the pizza crust was found outside and the murder took place inside the home"

All he keeps saying is Daron has no convictions. He desperately wants camera time. I'm turning.

I saw him on Megyn Kelly last night and can’t believe what a joke he is.
Yes, people have the presumption of innocence until proven guilty, but to call him a “nice guy” and to pretty much deny other crimes this scumbag has committed is over the top.
He gives lawyers a bad name.

"Ficker" means "f***er" in German. The name definitely fits this motherf***er. This is why people hate criminal defense lawyers - I know that our judicial system requires it, but it's sickening that this animal who tortured and burned a 10 year old will have someone fighting for his acquittal.

He's not an animal. He's doing his job. Defense attorneys are just as important as prosecutors, Nancy Grace.

So tell us, Johnnie Cochran, exactly how you would defend Daron Wint. Let me guess - he is not guilty by reason of insanity. He ate Twinkies and they made him crazy. He had a deprived childhood. It wasn't him, it was his brother. He didn't mean to kill any of these people - things just got out of hand.

If there is more than one assailant, my defense strategy would be the point the finger at the other(s). Say I was there but I didn't do it, I was coerced or threatened to be there but didn't want to. If you are the only assailant, try to disprove you weren't there. It is up to the prosecution to prove the case, then you poke the holes. Either way, it sounds like the DNA evidence is solid, so then your strategy may just be to get life in prison and not the death penalty (we don't know yet whether a federal case with that could be maid, but assuming it could be).

His prior crimes cannot come into the trials to prove the likelihood he did this one. But it can be discussed at sentencing.

All you need is one wackadoodle juror, just one, to buy any doubt the defense throughs out. And you never know.....

This Ficker guy wants free publicity, so he's talking all sorts of crazy mumbo jumbo to anyone who will listen. He also probably wants to be the defense attorney for Wint.

Yes, and his representation of the accused can set up the claim on appeal that the convicted felon had inadequate representation.

highly unlikely. ineffective assistance of counsel is hardly ever successful on appeal.