UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

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I bet people are selling off their stock.

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This guy’s desire to take credit for the murder is going to throw a wrench in the works for the tik tok conspiracy teens.

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I'm not a psychologist but I have a close family member with schizophrenia. His behavior seems schizophrenic to me.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe some of you thought he was good looking. He's hideous.

He looks good in his old pics. He is way skinny now and looks rough. He has reported missing November 18th by his family so he probably hasn’t been taking care of himself well.

How did they not know it was him with those pictures plastered all over?

who cares if his family didn’t identify him? they weren’t harboring him. they didn’t know where he was

You don’t think telling the cops who he was might have helped? If you knew that was your brother, cousin, son wouldn’t you be worried for their safety?

Why do you think they did not do so? We do not know everything. We do know his mom had reported him missing a while back.

Because the NYPD said they did not know the name of the suspect before Altoona police apprehended him, all they were going on was the photos. It wasn’t until he was arrested did they get his name. IF any of his relatives had called the tip lines, wouldn’t the police already have had his name? So no, none of his parents or siblings or 30 cousins called.

But we don’t know how many people called to say, “ that might be my[son, cousin, coworker, ex-husband, former classmate].“ They could not jump from a tip to deciding that is the shooter’s name.

The probably got tips from all over but they sure showed up quickly at that McDonald’s. How did they know that was legit?

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Anonymous wrote:United Health is giving these talking points to its call center reps.

"A chart being widely shared on social media is false."

https://t.co/LqAZk4QKw1

This is brilliant. Thank you!

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Anonymous wrote:I had a family member with severe chronic back pain (who passed away of something unrelated). It was so debilitating.

That being said…this seems a bit short sighted. Does he thinking a jail will provide him better medical accommodation? Lol.

Luigi isn’t moving around like he is in debilitating pain. He’s surfing, hiking, doing yoga, jumping off and on subways, buses and taxis, walking all over the place, jumping out of police cars, slamming against walls, etc. NOTHING about his movements suggest he’s in debilitating pain.

I’ve been there, with scoliosis, 2 herniated discs and pinched nerves. I’m not buying it for one second. pain, sure, debilitating, nope.

I can believe he was in pain but overall I agree with you-that’s not how someone in unremitting severe pain moves. He commented angrily on Reddit about convincing reluctant doctors to operate (when they apparently didn’t think surgery was indicated) by feigning symptoms. I wouldn’t be surprised if he had a legit back issue along with a host of other psych issues. Also, those abs aren’t from casual gym going-that’s someone who devotes an absolute ton of hours to his physique, wouldn’t be surprised if there was some body dysmorphia.

Sounds like he wanted some high risk surgery that they only do covered if over age 50 and in terrible chronic pain. And you have to sign off on the risk and low efficacy.

In other countries these surgeries are not offered, due to not solving the issue and the chronic pain and then mobility side effects magnify.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe some of you thought he was good looking. He's hideous.

He looks good in his old pics. He is way skinny now and looks rough. He has reported missing November 18th by his family so he probably hasn’t been taking care of himself well.

How did they not know it was him with those pictures plastered all over?

who cares if his family didn’t identify him? they weren’t harboring him. they didn’t know where he was

You don’t think telling the cops who he was might have helped? If you knew that was your brother, cousin, son wouldn’t you be worried for their safety?

Why do you think they did not do so? We do not know everything. We do know his mom had reported him missing a while back.

Because the NYPD said they did not know the name of the suspect before Altoona police apprehended him, all they were going on was the photos. It wasn’t until he was arrested did they get his name. IF any of his relatives had called the tip lines, wouldn’t the police already have had his name? So no, none of his parents or siblings or 30 cousins called.

But we don’t know how many people called to say, “ that might be my[son, cousin, coworker, ex-husband, former classmate].“ They could not jump from a tip to deciding that is the shooter’s name.

The probably got tips from all over but they sure showed up quickly at that McDonald’s. How did they know that was legit?

Do the Altoona police have anything better to do?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a psychologist but I have a close family member with schizophrenia. His behavior seems schizophrenic to me.

His descriptions of “brain fog” starting in college could be consistent with symptoms in the prodrome of schizophrenia as could the social and occupational withdrawal. To me he seems ill for sure but certainly not a slam dunk for schizophrenia based on what we’ve seen of his writing and behavior.

Interestingly, the unabomber was diagnosed w schizophrenia as that was thought to be the best fit but it definitely wasn’t a typical presentation. Just interesting to have two extremely bright people with similar (but very atypical) presentations if it does turn out to be schizophrenia.

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Anonymous wrote:Some input to the insurance companies bad vs insurance companies good debate:
https://www.propublica.org/article/how-often-do-health-insurers-deny-patients-claims
In 2010, federal regulators were granted expansive authority through the Affordable Care Act to require that insurers provide information on their denials. This data could have meant a sea change in transparency for consumers. But more than a decade later, the federal government has collected only a fraction of what it’s entitled to. And what information it has released, experts say, is so crude, inconsistent and confusing that it’s essentially meaningless.

https://acdis.org/articles/news-aha-report-suggests-ma-denials-increased-557-between-2022-2023
A new report released by the American Hospital Association (AHA) catalogues “staggering” administrative costs imposed on hospital operating margins.
The report—“Skyrocketing hospital administrative costs, burdensome commercial insurer policies are impacting patient care”—suggests that “excessive regulatory and insurer requirements” account for “more than 40% of total expenses hospitals incur in delivering care to patients.”
The authors of the report highlighted the growing trend in denials over the past few years, observing that care denials occurring between 2022 and 2023 increased a whopping average of 20.2% for commercial claims and 55.7% for Medicare Advantage claims, respectively.
--I assume this is hospital claims so we don't know what is happening in outpatient care

Because the govt is not getting this data, there's a lot we don't know. There may have also been some degree of Covid effect (otoh non-emergency surgeries and other care were being delayed during Covid), but a 57% year to year increase for MA denials??

Huge criticism on r/medicine about the Vox article claiming BCBS was not doing what they were actually doing re: anesthesia (even if it's a bit more complicated). It does sound like Vox and BCBS spun much harder than the ASA did.

So, is it violence when a corporation's practices lead to otherwise avoidable deaths (whether an insurance company, an international agribusiness, wood products, textile, energy, or mining company)? Was what Purdue did violence? Enron?

If "corporations are people" then when they commit violence via the ways they do business rather than 3-d printing a gun and shooting is there the same culpability?

UHC stock is coming back up, and in the end the same will happen for other insurers--because they also hold society hostage. In murder prosecutions, that's an aggravating factor.

This has to be one of the best analyses I’ve ever read on DCUM! Thank you for posting!! <3

Indeed.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe some of you thought he was good looking. He's hideous.

He looks good in his old pics. He is way skinny now and looks rough. He has reported missing November 18th by his family so he probably hasn’t been taking care of himself well.

How did they not know it was him with those pictures plastered all over?

who cares if his family didn’t identify him? they weren’t harboring him. they didn’t know where he was

You don’t think telling the cops who he was might have helped? If you knew that was your brother, cousin, son wouldn’t you be worried for their safety?

Why do you think they did not do so? We do not know everything. We do know his mom had reported him missing a while back.

Because the NYPD said they did not know the name of the suspect before Altoona police apprehended him, all they were going on was the photos. It wasn’t until he was arrested did they get his name. IF any of his relatives had called the tip lines, wouldn’t the police already have had his name? So no, none of his parents or siblings or 30 cousins called.

But we don’t know how many people called to say, “ that might be my[son, cousin, coworker, ex-husband, former classmate].“ They could not jump from a tip to deciding that is the shooter’s name.

The probably got tips from all over but they sure showed up quickly at that McDonald’s. How did they know that was legit?

What's difficult about the closest cop car in the burbs showing up and asking basic questions: Show us your face, Were you in NYC recently? Can you provide your ID?

Simple. If it was someone different or could prove where they've been the last few days, start over. BFD.

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I bet people are selling off their stock.

I wonder how many sold before that investor conference was cancelled.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a psychologist but I have a close family member with schizophrenia. His behavior seems schizophrenic to me.

His descriptions of “brain fog” starting in college could be consistent with symptoms in the prodrome of schizophrenia as could the social and occupational withdrawal. To me he seems ill for sure but certainly not a slam dunk for schizophrenia based on what we’ve seen of his writing and behavior.

Interestingly, the unabomber was diagnosed w schizophrenia as that was thought to be the best fit but it definitely wasn’t a typical presentation. Just interesting to have two extremely bright people with similar (but very atypical) presentations if it does turn out to be schizophrenia.

Is a high level of intelligence consistent with schizophrenia?

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Anonymous wrote:Some input to the insurance companies bad vs insurance companies good debate:
https://www.propublica.org/article/how-often-do-health-insurers-deny-patients-claims
In 2010, federal regulators were granted expansive authority through the Affordable Care Act to require that insurers provide information on their denials. This data could have meant a sea change in transparency for consumers. But more than a decade later, the federal government has collected only a fraction of what it’s entitled to. And what information it has released, experts say, is so crude, inconsistent and confusing that it’s essentially meaningless.

https://acdis.org/articles/news-aha-report-suggests-ma-denials-increased-557-between-2022-2023
A new report released by the American Hospital Association (AHA) catalogues “staggering” administrative costs imposed on hospital operating margins.
The report—“Skyrocketing hospital administrative costs, burdensome commercial insurer policies are impacting patient care”—suggests that “excessive regulatory and insurer requirements” account for “more than 40% of total expenses hospitals incur in delivering care to patients.”
The authors of the report highlighted the growing trend in denials over the past few years, observing that care denials occurring between 2022 and 2023 increased a whopping average of 20.2% for commercial claims and 55.7% for Medicare Advantage claims, respectively.
--I assume this is hospital claims so we don't know what is happening in outpatient care

Because the govt is not getting this data, there's a lot we don't know. There may have also been some degree of Covid effect (otoh non-emergency surgeries and other care were being delayed during Covid), but a 57% year to year increase for MA denials??

Huge criticism on r/medicine about the Vox article claiming BCBS was not doing what they were actually doing re: anesthesia (even if it's a bit more complicated). It does sound like Vox and BCBS spun much harder than the ASA did.

So, is it violence when a corporation's practices lead to otherwise avoidable deaths (whether an insurance company, an international agribusiness, wood products, textile, energy, or mining company)? Was what Purdue did violence? Enron?

If "corporations are people" then when they commit violence via the ways they do business rather than 3-d printing a gun and shooting is there the same culpability?

UHC stock is coming back up, and in the end the same will happen for other insurers--because they also hold society hostage. In murder prosecutions, that's an aggravating factor.

This has to be one of the best analyses I’ve ever read on DCUM! Thank you for posting!! <3

Don’t get Medicare Advantage!

How hard is it to switch back to regular Medicare from Medicare Advantage? My parents fell for it and now I'm trying to get them to switch back.

Not hard, they can switch back during the open enrollment period

Are there any real pros to Medicare Advantage other than vision coverage?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a psychologist but I have a close family member with schizophrenia. His behavior seems schizophrenic to me.

His descriptions of “brain fog” starting in college could be consistent with symptoms in the prodrome of schizophrenia as could the social and occupational withdrawal. To me he seems ill for sure but certainly not a slam dunk for schizophrenia based on what we’ve seen of his writing and behavior.

Interestingly, the unabomber was diagnosed w schizophrenia as that was thought to be the best fit but it definitely wasn’t a typical presentation. Just interesting to have two extremely bright people with similar (but very atypical) presentations if it does turn out to be schizophrenia.

Is a high level of intelligence consistent with schizophrenia?

I’m bit aware of differences in premorbid iq but there are cognitive symptoms associated w schizophrenia so it makes sense that someone starting with very high iq is going to look different than someone starting with average iq.

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After reading what people claim is his manifesto, I had my own issues with Aetna. I hope he is acquitted. I hate insurance companies.