Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS

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Europe and Scandinavia can sit back a little now because their infection rate is so low. What about this is so difficult for you to understand? The US failed to vaccinate and still has comparatively high infection rates. And it’s child mortality rates are much higher than Scandinavia and the UK. Do you get it? They don’t have cases like we do, so they can relax. Whereas in the US our case counts are as high as ever because of stupid people who don’t vax or mask (or test!) so we still need to take all of these precautions. Why is this so hard for you?

At least you aren’t saying covid is less deadly to children than the flu anymore and have moved on to car accidents and drownings. Yay?

The vaccination rate in the beltway area is sky high. Cases are super low too - the case rate average per 100K in Arlington 20, Fairfax 17 (US as a whole is 47) whereas the UK is 50. Hospital utilization is fine in the beltway too. The beltway is fine.

Maybe you're saying we have to punish our area because people in rural Arkansas aren't getting vaccinated? If not, what are your off ramps then? You obviously think the UK approach is not right (even though they had delta much earlier than us). Is your approach Zero COVID like in Australia, New Zealand or China?

COVID is less deadly to healthy children than the flu. Absolutely.

You're wasting your time. These people don't want this pandemic to end ever. Their entire purpose in life is virus mitigation.

We all want it to end.

Some of us are facing reality and know that it’s not quite over yet.

Vaccinate, mask, test. It’s not that hard.

It's actually over now, with a highly vaccinated local population. These people's ending is no COVID cases, which is impossible for an endemic virus.

I'm sorry you are struggling, but:
(1) it's not over yet - locally and certainly not regionally/nationally
(2) you are fabricating goals and intentions for "those people"

Vaccinate, mask, test. It’s not that hard. After we can get the younger kids vaccinated we will be in an even better place.

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It's actually over now, with a highly vaccinated local population. These people's ending is no COVID cases, which is impossible for an endemic virus.

I'm sorry you are struggling, but:
(1) it's not over yet - locally and certainly not regionally/nationally
(2) you are fabricating goals and intentions for "those people"

Vaccinate, mask, test. It’s not that hard. After we can get the younger kids vaccinated we will be in an even better place.

Even vaccinating kids will not end it to these people --> Goal posts move again!

Our cases locally are tiny and cases don't matter for an endemic virus. Hospitalizations are what matter and we have practically 0. Mask and stay inside as much as you'd like.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid has killed nearly twice as many kids in the past year as the flu has in any year over the past twenty, and has killed nearly 10x as many kids as the flu has in some of the last 20 years. So you can try to wave your hands around it with your “oh it’s less deadly to HEALTHY children” tap dancing but the simple truth is that you are wrong and that dicking around over precautions and safety caused Covid child mortality numbers to shoot up in the last six months and your old flu comparative isn’t applicable anymore. Nice job you.

So on one hand you say our numbers in nova are low compared to the south where folks aren’t wearing masks or getting vaxxed and in another post you (you appear to be the same poster) are saying that soon kids shouldn’t have to wear masks at school anymore and btw masks don’t even work. So excuse my confusion over what your endgame is here when it seems like if government officials would just go along you would be anti-test and anti mask in schools (because I guess spread shouldn’t matter if adults are vaxxed). That’s not what the CDC is saying, but go off, my dude.

The flu comparison is still more than applicable. Kids with significant comorobidities are at risk of COVID. You have the UK, where there are no masks in school and their health commission didn't recommend vaccinating kids under 16 because the risk to kids is so low. May COVID works differently in Europe than in the US?

The South's rates are high because they're not vaccinated, not because they're not masking. Compare Northern Virginia (no mask mandate) to DC and Montgomery County (mask mandates). Any statistically significant case difference?

You can't use these measures as strict comparisons. Regardless of mask mandates, most people I see out and about in stores and public places like church are still wearing masks. This seems to be a more voluntary people than in other places that need mandates to get them to wear masks.

Sounds like you're saying mask mandates aren't needed. I completely agree. If people want to mask voluntarily, be my guest.

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It's actually over now, with a highly vaccinated local population. These people's ending is no COVID cases, which is impossible for an endemic virus.

I'm sorry you are struggling, but:
(1) it's not over yet - locally and certainly not regionally/nationally
(2) you are fabricating goals and intentions for "those people"

Vaccinate, mask, test. It’s not that hard. After we can get the younger kids vaccinated we will be in an even better place.

Even vaccinating kids will not end it to these people --> Goal posts move again!

Our cases locally are tiny and cases don't matter for an endemic virus. Hospitalizations are what matter and we have practically 0. Mask and stay inside as much as you'd like.

Move what goal posts? "Having most people vaccinated" has always been a goal.

It's the dumb fcks who refuse to vaccinate (and mask and test) causing delays for us moving to endemic....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

It's actually over now, with a highly vaccinated local population. These people's ending is no COVID cases, which is impossible for an endemic virus.

I'm sorry you are struggling, but:
(1) it's not over yet - locally and certainly not regionally/nationally
(2) you are fabricating goals and intentions for "those people"

Vaccinate, mask, test. It’s not that hard. After we can get the younger kids vaccinated we will be in an even better place.

Even vaccinating kids will not end it to these people --> Goal posts move again!

Our cases locally are tiny and cases don't matter for an endemic virus. Hospitalizations are what matter and we have practically 0. Mask and stay inside as much as you'd like.

Nothing will end it at this rate. That we know. But until we don't have 1,000 people dying EVERY DAY the pandemic part of this is not over. Once way to end the pandemic, and shift to endemic (which means pop up outbreaks, not out of control spread) is to VACCINATE as many people as possible. This is not the goal posts moving, this is basic public health management. If you haven't learned that much after 1.5 years of this, you need to turn off Fox News for a bit.

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I wouldn’t sign up for that. There are people who seem to want Covid to go on forever.

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Even if 1000 died each day of Covid in the US it would still be less than .01%. People die every day. Covid is not the only illness.

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Also I don’t know what you PP is going on about with this new nonsense re “there is no scientific evidence that masks work” — as though if you just repeat this enough times it will be true and you will win the argument — but in fact there is plenty of evidence that masks are effective at preventing the spread of covid and are one of the few tools we have at preventing further spread. https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118— this study compiled results from other studies and generally found that masks were 79 to 80 percent more effective than no masks at preventing transmission of Covid. So please stop spreading disinformation, as that is completely reprehensible in a pandemic.

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I hate people. Why do so many suck?

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Anonymous wrote:I hate people. Why do so many suck?

The people who won’t test and oppose other common sense measures are keeping Covid going.

Do your part people.

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The sheer stupidity of the anti test and anti mask posters in here is astounding. Let covid spread and kill people because there needs to be an end to this? This is pretty much Trump’s position on covid in 2019. Just let it kill people and let’s get back to business.

I can understand the parents who haven’t signed up for testing because they don’t want their healthy kid pulled out due to uncertain rules re team testing. I had some of the same concerns. But imho you should be signing up and do your part rather than handwringing and pointing fingers at APS. Many parents WISH their schools would set up free asymptomatic testing, to keep their kids safe!!! Whatever though heaven forbid you should be inconvenienced.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't opted in because there is no explanation of what the supposed algorithm is and how it works. I was all for testing when it was individual and not pooled. I realize the test shortage is not APS fault, but the lack of transparency on how exactly the algorithm works gives me pause.

Us too. I wanted to sign my kids up, but I need a better understanding of how APS plans to ensure my kids aren’t excluded from school for days because some other kid they weren’t exposed to threw a positive. Because even if only one of them gets tagged by the algorithm, the other one isn’t allowed to go to school either until their sibling gets a negative test.

This x100. APS has made some many false promises over the past 18 months and has mangled the communication about stuff like whether you need to fill out the daily symptom screener, etc. that I am not going to voluntarily sign myself up to get caught in their mess. At first it sounded like the testing would be individualized and I only found out about the pooled testing via word of mouth. Now they claim there is some vague “algorithm” that we parents should blindly trust not to throw our children’s education and parent work schedules into complete disarray for no reason other than some random non-contact kid got COVID. And there is no real evidence that schools are a significant source of community spread or that random screening in schools significantly reduces outbreaks.

I’m tired of this literal insanity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The sheer stupidity of the anti test and anti mask posters in here is astounding. Let covid spread and kill people because there needs to be an end to this? This is pretty much Trump’s position on covid in 2019. Just let it kill people and let’s get back to business.

I can understand the parents who haven’t signed up for testing because they don’t want their healthy kid pulled out due to uncertain rules re team testing. I had some of the same concerns. But imho you should be signing up and do your part rather than handwringing and pointing fingers at APS. Many parents WISH their schools would set up free asymptomatic testing, to keep their kids safe!!! Whatever though heaven forbid you should be inconvenienced.

Well, sure- if you buy into the view that school is just a convenience for lazy parents who need to park their kids somewhere, then you probably don't see a lot of harm from possibly excessive quarantines.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't opted in because there is no explanation of what the supposed algorithm is and how it works. I was all for testing when it was individual and not pooled. I realize the test shortage is not APS fault, but the lack of transparency on how exactly the algorithm works gives me pause.

Us too. I wanted to sign my kids up, but I need a better understanding of how APS plans to ensure my kids aren’t excluded from school for days because some other kid they weren’t exposed to threw a positive. Because even if only one of them gets tagged by the algorithm, the other one isn’t allowed to go to school either until their sibling gets a negative test.

This x100. APS has made some many false promises over the past 18 months and has mangled the communication about stuff like whether you need to fill out the daily symptom screener, etc. that I am not going to voluntarily sign myself up to get caught in their mess. At first it sounded like the testing would be individualized and I only found out about the pooled testing via word of mouth. Now they claim there is some vague “algorithm” that we parents should blindly trust not to throw our children’s education and parent work schedules into complete disarray for no reason other than some random non-contact kid got COVID. And there is no real evidence that schools are a significant source of community spread or that random screening in schools significantly reduces outbreaks.

I’m tired of this literal insanity.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t sign up for that. There are people who seem to want Covid to go on forever.

It’s empowering to them.