Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't let it be forgot
That once there was a spot
For one brief shining moment that was known
As Camelot:

https://www.arlnow.com/2021/04/23/tensions-over-virtual-and-in-person-education-boil-over-in-school-board-meeting/


Yes, Tannia Talento claiming she speaks for all minorities, when 90%+ of every demographic chose to come back in-person 5 days a week less than 2 weeks later in a survey (including Hispanic kids at 95%). Perfect example of the closed school activists' commitment to "equity".


We must be looking at different surveys of APS staff, families, and kids because I am seeing numbers saying that merely 39% of families were comfortable with full time return to school (and hey 37% of the parents filling out the survey were out there in 22207) while everyone else was hey slow your roll there buddy let's keep doing hybrid or stay home altogether, but ymmv. Did I misread this or is this another case of alternative facts I dunno.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/APS-Reopening-Input-Staff-Student-Family-Surveys-June-2020-062720.pdf
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't let it be forgot
That once there was a spot
For one brief shining moment that was known
As Camelot:

https://www.arlnow.com/2021/04/23/tensions-over-virtual-and-in-person-education-boil-over-in-school-board-meeting/


Yes, Tannia Talento claiming she speaks for all minorities, when 90%+ of every demographic chose to come back in-person 5 days a week less than 2 weeks later in a survey (including Hispanic kids at 95%). Perfect example of the closed school activists' commitment to "equity".


Same people pushing closed schools last year are pushing asymptomatic testing this year. That's enough for me to not opt in.


Spiteful POS

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Eh. I watched that board meeting and I know what I saw in terms of who was arguing to continue to allow schools from home and not to force return for all too early. I'm not part of Smart Restart or any of the other groups but I know what I saw. You, of course, can make up your own reality, as APE tends to do.


Yes, we all saw what APE did at that meeting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't let it be forgot
That once there was a spot
For one brief shining moment that was known
As Camelot:

https://www.arlnow.com/2021/04/23/tensions-over-virtual-and-in-person-education-boil-over-in-school-board-meeting/


Yes, Tannia Talento claiming she speaks for all minorities, when 90%+ of every demographic chose to come back in-person 5 days a week less than 2 weeks later in a survey (including Hispanic kids at 95%). Perfect example of the closed school activists' commitment to "equity".


We must be looking at different surveys of APS staff, families, and kids because I am seeing numbers saying that merely 39% of families were comfortable with full time return to school (and hey 37% of the parents filling out the survey were out there in 22207) while everyone else was hey slow your roll there buddy let's keep doing hybrid or stay home altogether, but ymmv. Did I misread this or is this another case of alternative facts I dunno.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/APS-Reopening-Input-Staff-Student-Family-Surveys-June-2020-062720.pdf


Tannia's speech was on 4/22/2021, APS survey conducted at same exact time:
https://www.apsva.us/post/superintendents-may-11-return-to-school-update/

Great spin on that June 2020 survey - 42% chose all in-person and 37% chose hybrid while 10% chose remote.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'm sorry, but I feel the same way about African Americans (or any other Americans) who do not get vaccines as I do about low-income people who vote republican. They are acting against their own interests in an illogical way. It is well known in the African American community that they suffer worse health outcomes from Covid. The vaccines have been in circulation since December of last year and there have been no significant long-term side effects (unlike Covid, which can leave people with permanent reduced lung function). People are making their choice... and that's fine, but it is not reasonable to expect society to bend over backwards to protect them indefinitely while people "do their own research". We should not enable bad choices at the expense of others...


Concerned Person: The vast majority of younger and middle age African Americans will be essentially segregated by vaccine passports
Arlington Branch COVIDian: Screw 'em, the only thing that matters is COVID, which overrides treatment of minorities

1 year earlier...

Concerned Person: Underprivileged minorities will be the most hurt by closed schools
Same Arlington Branch COVIDian: Screw 'em (even though my kids are remote anyway), the only thing that matters is COVID, not equity

1 year later when SOL scores were announced...

Concerned Person: We told you closed schools would hurt underprivileged minorities the most, now we need to focus on learning loss
Same Arlington Branch COVIDian: It wasn't because of closed schools, it was because "of the pandemic". Plus, don't say "learning loss", say "unfinished learning" (and don't say "closed schools", it was "closed school buildings"). I love equity too and am getting a shirt that says "equity warrior".

Now with Asymptomatic Testing...

Concerned Person: Having healthy kids be excluded from school because of close contacts, when the odds are overwhelming they'll never be positive, will just hurt the same underprivileged minorities who were hurt the most by closed schools.
Same Arlington Branch COVIDian: Screw 'em, the only thing that matters is COVID (even though I'm vaccinated), not equity


+1 the cost of healthy kids unnecessarily missing school seems to never be factored in by these people
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'm sorry, but I feel the same way about African Americans (or any other Americans) who do not get vaccines as I do about low-income people who vote republican. They are acting against their own interests in an illogical way. It is well known in the African American community that they suffer worse health outcomes from Covid. The vaccines have been in circulation since December of last year and there have been no significant long-term side effects (unlike Covid, which can leave people with permanent reduced lung function). People are making their choice... and that's fine, but it is not reasonable to expect society to bend over backwards to protect them indefinitely while people "do their own research". We should not enable bad choices at the expense of others...


Concerned Person: The vast majority of younger and middle age African Americans will be essentially segregated by vaccine passports
Arlington Branch COVIDian: Screw 'em, the only thing that matters is COVID, which overrides treatment of minorities

1 year earlier...

Concerned Person: Underprivileged minorities will be the most hurt by closed schools
Same Arlington Branch COVIDian: Screw 'em (even though my kids are remote anyway), the only thing that matters is COVID, not equity

1 year later when SOL scores were announced...

Concerned Person: We told you closed schools would hurt underprivileged minorities the most, now we need to focus on learning loss
Same Arlington Branch COVIDian: It wasn't because of closed schools, it was because "of the pandemic". Plus, don't say "learning loss", say "unfinished learning" (and don't say "closed schools", it was "closed school buildings"). I love equity too and am getting a shirt that says "equity warrior".

Now with Asymptomatic Testing...

Concerned Person: Having healthy kids be excluded from school because of close contacts, when the odds are overwhelming they'll never be positive, will just hurt the same underprivileged minorities who were hurt the most by closed schools.
Same Arlington Branch COVIDian: Screw 'em, the only thing that matters is COVID (even though I'm vaccinated), not equity


Good lord. A lot of you have WAY too much time on your hands. Just came in to see why this thread got to 44 pages. Pure insanity on both sides. LET IT GO.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't let it be forgot
That once there was a spot
For one brief shining moment that was known
As Camelot:

https://www.arlnow.com/2021/04/23/tensions-over-virtual-and-in-person-education-boil-over-in-school-board-meeting/


Yes, Tannia Talento claiming she speaks for all minorities, when 90%+ of every demographic chose to come back in-person 5 days a week less than 2 weeks later in a survey (including Hispanic kids at 95%). Perfect example of the closed school activists' commitment to "equity".


We must be looking at different surveys of APS staff, families, and kids because I am seeing numbers saying that merely 39% of families were comfortable with full time return to school (and hey 37% of the parents filling out the survey were out there in 22207) while everyone else was hey slow your roll there buddy let's keep doing hybrid or stay home altogether, but ymmv. Did I misread this or is this another case of alternative facts I dunno.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/APS-Reopening-Input-Staff-Student-Family-Surveys-June-2020-062720.pdf


Tannia's speech was on 4/22/2021, APS survey conducted at same exact time:
https://www.apsva.us/post/superintendents-may-11-return-to-school-update/

Great spin on that June 2020 survey - 42% chose all in-person and 37% chose hybrid while 10% chose remote.


I cited the wrong survey! Hey, sorry about that!

But I don't think this survey says what you think it says. Do you remember that school board meeting from April 2021? Several members from APE were there and were furious that schools were not open full time RIGHT THEN, despite the fact that this would have disadvantaged members of the minority community who weren't ready for a full return because their kids still in hybrid or at home would have received less attention from the teachers than the kids who showed up in person. A few APE members even brought their kids and had their kids lecture the school board on opening the schools -- remember how fun that was? Then members of the Hispanic community got up to speak and talked about wanting to keep things as they were for now, and APE members shouted them down at the end. That was really nice. Just another fun day in Arlington, acting like reasonable adults at School Board meetings in front of our children, who no doubt will be just like us some day. Ahh, what a life!

The survey you cite did not ask parents what they wanted to do for the last month and a half of school at the end of that year. It asked what they wanted to do this year! And guess what, nearly EVERYBODY -- SR, APE, minorities, etc -- wanted to come back to school in person! APS did not ask in that survey what folks wanted to do for the rest of that school year, but it was clear from that Board Meeting that many certainly did NOT want to do what APE wanted, and switch schedules around with a month of school left. That was crazy no matter how sad and stern the APE children were. So you're misrepresenting what happened in the meeting and what happened in the survey. The survey responses were not agreeing with APE from the meeting, and plenty of people at the meeting expressed their disagreement with APE at the time. People wanted kids to return to a more normal school year this year -- which is what we did despite APE's constant gripes that SR would find some way to foil everyone's return to school -- but many were simply not equipped to and did not support APE's desire to send the some kids back to school five days/week for four or five weeks at the end of last year while others had classes from home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Tannia's speech was on 4/22/2021, APS survey conducted at same exact time:
https://www.apsva.us/post/superintendents-may-11-return-to-school-update/

Great spin on that June 2020 survey - 42% chose all in-person and 37% chose hybrid while 10% chose remote.


I cited the wrong survey! Hey, sorry about that!

But I don't think this survey says what you think it says. Do you remember that school board meeting from April 2021? Several members from APE were there and were furious that schools were not open full time RIGHT THEN, despite the fact that this would have disadvantaged members of the minority community who weren't ready for a full return because their kids still in hybrid or at home would have received less attention from the teachers than the kids who showed up in person. A few APE members even brought their kids and had their kids lecture the school board on opening the schools -- remember how fun that was? Then members of the Hispanic community got up to speak and talked about wanting to keep things as they were for now, and APE members shouted them down at the end. That was really nice. Just another fun day in Arlington, acting like reasonable adults at School Board meetings in front of our children, who no doubt will be just like us some day. Ahh, what a life!

The survey you cite did not ask parents what they wanted to do for the last month and a half of school at the end of that year. It asked what they wanted to do this year! And guess what, nearly EVERYBODY -- SR, APE, minorities, etc -- wanted to come back to school in person! APS did not ask in that survey what folks wanted to do for the rest of that school year, but it was clear from that Board Meeting that many certainly did NOT want to do what APE wanted, and switch schedules around with a month of school left. That was crazy no matter how sad and stern the APE children were. So you're misrepresenting what happened in the meeting and what happened in the survey. The survey responses were not agreeing with APE from the meeting, and plenty of people at the meeting expressed their disagreement with APE at the time. People wanted kids to return to a more normal school year this year -- which is what we did despite APE's constant gripes that SR would find some way to foil everyone's return to school -- but many were simply not equipped to and did not support APE's desire to send the some kids back to school five days/week for four or five weeks at the end of last year while others had classes from home.


How do you know? APS never re-surveyed families and refused to do so. The best info is that survey they completed at that exact time she was making the speech. And 95% wanted to come in person.

Notably, Falls Church City had resurveyed families and 99% of ES families chose to come back 5 days a week. No reason it would be any different for APS; in fact, the survey conducted by APS at the almost same exact time showed almost the same exact results.

This is an asymptomatic testing thread though, not a thread for your sad attempt at revisionist history. We know how the history will be written for closed schools here already --> it's going to be really bad for APS, the School Board, Tannia Talento and Smart Restart (including their international laughing stock Eric Ding, who advocated for closed schools while moving to Austria so his kid could attend school in person).

Asymptomatic testing is another overly broad measure that will keep healthy kids out of school, and hurt equity again.
Anonymous
The question wasn't "do you want to send your kids back to school NOW?" The question was "Do you want to send your kids back to school for the next school year?" That's the question people answered. Otherwise the last indication of what people wanted was that school board meeting where you guys just chose to shout over the people you didn't agree with, or the previous survey, where majority of parents didn't want full time in person. Good try though.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't let it be forgot
That once there was a spot
For one brief shining moment that was known
As Camelot:

https://www.arlnow.com/2021/04/23/tensions-over-virtual-and-in-person-education-boil-over-in-school-board-meeting/


Yes, Tannia Talento claiming she speaks for all minorities, when 90%+ of every demographic chose to come back in-person 5 days a week less than 2 weeks later in a survey (including Hispanic kids at 95%). Perfect example of the closed school activists' commitment to "equity".


We must be looking at different surveys of APS staff, families, and kids because I am seeing numbers saying that merely 39% of families were comfortable with full time return to school (and hey 37% of the parents filling out the survey were out there in 22207) while everyone else was hey slow your roll there buddy let's keep doing hybrid or stay home altogether, but ymmv. Did I misread this or is this another case of alternative facts I dunno.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/APS-Reopening-Input-Staff-Student-Family-Surveys-June-2020-062720.pdf


Tannia's speech was on 4/22/2021, APS survey conducted at same exact time:
https://www.apsva.us/post/superintendents-may-11-return-to-school-update/

Great spin on that June 2020 survey - 42% chose all in-person and 37% chose hybrid while 10% chose remote.


I cited the wrong survey! Hey, sorry about that!

But I don't think this survey says what you think it says. Do you remember that school board meeting from April 2021? Several members from APE were there and were furious that schools were not open full time RIGHT THEN, despite the fact that this would have disadvantaged members of the minority community who weren't ready for a full return because their kids still in hybrid or at home would have received less attention from the teachers than the kids who showed up in person. A few APE members even brought their kids and had their kids lecture the school board on opening the schools -- remember how fun that was? Then members of the Hispanic community got up to speak and talked about wanting to keep things as they were for now, and APE members shouted them down at the end. That was really nice. Just another fun day in Arlington, acting like reasonable adults at School Board meetings in front of our children, who no doubt will be just like us some day. Ahh, what a life!

The survey you cite did not ask parents what they wanted to do for the last month and a half of school at the end of that year. It asked what they wanted to do this year! And guess what, nearly EVERYBODY -- SR, APE, minorities, etc -- wanted to come back to school in person! APS did not ask in that survey what folks wanted to do for the rest of that school year, but it was clear from that Board Meeting that many certainly did NOT want to do what APE wanted, and switch schedules around with a month of school left. That was crazy no matter how sad and stern the APE children were. So you're misrepresenting what happened in the meeting and what happened in the survey. The survey responses were not agreeing with APE from the meeting, and plenty of people at the meeting expressed their disagreement with APE at the time. People wanted kids to return to a more normal school year this year -- which is what we did despite APE's constant gripes that SR would find some way to foil everyone's return to school -- but many were simply not equipped to and did not support APE's desire to send the some kids back to school five days/week for four or five weeks at the end of last year while others had classes from home.


I mean... in hindsight APS should have opened 5 days per week in April 2021. That's water under the bridge, but turns out it was right.
Anonymous
I was terrified to send my kids last Spring. They were fine. I 100% wanted them to go back 5 days a week. They are thriving. They are also getting tested weekly. It gives us peace of mind and helps us reduce spread (if it ends up they are positive).
Anonymous
^ wanted them to go back 5 days this fall
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