NPS: Ban Cars Now in DC Urban Parks

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I thinking owning a car in the District is a privilege that many cannot afford so their use should be discouraged as much as possible.

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Anonymous wrote:I thinking owning a car in the District is a privilege that many cannot afford so their use should be discouraged as much as possible.

Libs: Whatever they oppose should be banned. Whatever they support should be mandatory.

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Anonymous wrote:I thinking owning a car in the District is a privilege that many cannot afford so their use should be discouraged as much as possible.

Libs: Whatever they oppose should be banned. Whatever they support should be mandatory.

DP. Nobody said anything about banning. I support free-market choices, for example the choices people will make if DC starts charging them market rate to store (park) their private property (cars) on public property (streets).

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty done with the bike identity politics pushed by conservatives. We get it. You hate bikers. You like driving. Good for you.

On board with this measure. Ban cars in NPS parks in DC!

Rock Creek Park is a vital set of roads for getting from one end of the city to the next.

Rock Creek Park is a park.

So is GW Parkway.

Let's be clear, you are suggesting that both Rock Creek and GW parkways, two vitally important transportation corridors, be shut down.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty done with the bike identity politics pushed by conservatives. We get it. You hate bikers. You like driving. Good for you.

On board with this measure. Ban cars in NPS parks in DC!

Rock Creek Park is a vital set of roads for getting from one end of the city to the next.

Rock Creek Park is a park.

So is GW Parkway.

Let's be clear, you are suggesting that both Rock Creek and GW parkways, two vitally important transportation corridors, be shut down.

No, I'm saying that it's not appropriate to use a national park as a highway for cars.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty done with the bike identity politics pushed by conservatives. We get it. You hate bikers. You like driving. Good for you.

On board with this measure. Ban cars in NPS parks in DC!

Rock Creek Park is a vital set of roads for getting from one end of the city to the next.

Rock Creek Park is a park.

So is GW Parkway.

Let's be clear, you are suggesting that both Rock Creek and GW parkways, two vitally important transportation corridors, be shut down.

No, I'm saying that it's not appropriate to use a national park as a highway for cars.

So, yes you are. And add Clara Barton/Cabin John parkway to the list.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty done with the bike identity politics pushed by conservatives. We get it. You hate bikers. You like driving. Good for you.

On board with this measure. Ban cars in NPS parks in DC!

Rock Creek Park is a vital set of roads for getting from one end of the city to the next.

Rock Creek Park is a park.

So is GW Parkway.

Let's be clear, you are suggesting that both Rock Creek and GW parkways, two vitally important transportation corridors, be shut down.

No, I'm saying that it's not appropriate to use a national park as a highway for cars.

So, yes you are. And add Clara Barton/Cabin John parkway to the list.

OK, that's fine with me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty done with the bike identity politics pushed by conservatives. We get it. You hate bikers. You like driving. Good for you.

On board with this measure. Ban cars in NPS parks in DC!

Rock Creek Park is a vital set of roads for getting from one end of the city to the next.

Rock Creek Park is a park.

So is GW Parkway.

Let's be clear, you are suggesting that both Rock Creek and GW parkways, two vitally important transportation corridors, be shut down.

No, I'm saying that it's not appropriate to use a national park as a highway for cars.

So, yes you are. And add Clara Barton/Cabin John parkway to the list.

Here's the list of regional roads you want to shut down for bicyclists:

B-W Parkway
Blue Ridge Parkway
Clara Barton Parkway
GW Parkway
Rock Creek Parkway
Skyline Drive
Suitland Parkway

[Anonymous]

Interesting enough, those roads were built during the New Deal specifically for recreational driving.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty done with the bike identity politics pushed by conservatives. We get it. You hate bikers. You like driving. Good for you.

On board with this measure. Ban cars in NPS parks in DC!

Rock Creek Park is a vital set of roads for getting from one end of the city to the next.

Rock Creek Park is a park.

So is GW Parkway.

Let's be clear, you are suggesting that both Rock Creek and GW parkways, two vitally important transportation corridors, be shut down.

No, I'm saying that it's not appropriate to use a national park as a highway for cars.

So, yes you are. And add Clara Barton/Cabin John parkway to the list.

Here's the list of regional roads you want to shut down for bicyclists:

B-W Parkway
Blue Ridge Parkway
Clara Barton Parkway
GW Parkway
Rock Creek Parkway
Skyline Drive
Suitland Parkway

I didn't say anything about "shut down for bicyclists." I said "It's not appropriate to use a national park as a highway for cars."

As far as I know, nobody uses Skyline Drive for car-commuting except National Park Service employees, but I'm not that familiar with Skyline Drive, and I might be wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty done with the bike identity politics pushed by conservatives. We get it. You hate bikers. You like driving. Good for you.

On board with this measure. Ban cars in NPS parks in DC!

Rock Creek Park is a vital set of roads for getting from one end of the city to the next.

Rock Creek Park is a park.

So is GW Parkway.

Let's be clear, you are suggesting that both Rock Creek and GW parkways, two vitally important transportation corridors, be shut down.

No, I'm saying that it's not appropriate to use a national park as a highway for cars.

So, yes you are. And add Clara Barton/Cabin John parkway to the list.

Here's the list of regional roads you want to shut down for bicyclists:

B-W Parkway
Blue Ridge Parkway
Clara Barton Parkway
GW Parkway
Rock Creek Parkway
Skyline Drive
Suitland Parkway

I didn't say anything about "shut down for bicyclists." I said "It's not appropriate to use a national park as a highway for cars."

As far as I know, nobody uses Skyline Drive for car-commuting except National Park Service employees, but I'm not that familiar with Skyline Drive, and I might be wrong.

It's used qll the time for recreational driving. Especially by motorcyclists. It's also the only way to get to different parts of Shenendoah NP. The others are used extensively and are essential transportation routes throughout the area. Congratulations, your proposal prevents people from getting to the airports as well.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty done with the bike identity politics pushed by conservatives. We get it. You hate bikers. You like driving. Good for you.

On board with this measure. Ban cars in NPS parks in DC!

Rock Creek Park is a vital set of roads for getting from one end of the city to the next.

Rock Creek Park is a park.

So is GW Parkway.

Let's be clear, you are suggesting that both Rock Creek and GW parkways, two vitally important transportation corridors, be shut down.

No, I'm saying that it's not appropriate to use a national park as a highway for cars.

So, yes you are. And add Clara Barton/Cabin John parkway to the list.

Here's the list of regional roads you want to shut down for bicyclists:

B-W Parkway
Blue Ridge Parkway
Clara Barton Parkway
GW Parkway
Rock Creek Parkway
Skyline Drive
Suitland Parkway

I didn't say anything about "shut down for bicyclists." I said "It's not appropriate to use a national park as a highway for cars."

As far as I know, nobody uses Skyline Drive for car-commuting except National Park Service employees, but I'm not that familiar with Skyline Drive, and I might be wrong.

It's used qll the time for recreational driving. Especially by motorcyclists. It's also the only way to get to different parts of Shenendoah NP. The others are used extensively and are essential transportation routes throughout the area. Congratulations, your proposal prevents people from getting to the airports as well.

Terrific. Recreational driving only on the roads through national parks. Nice and slow, so people can see the sights. No car commuting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty done with the bike identity politics pushed by conservatives. We get it. You hate bikers. You like driving. Good for you.

On board with this measure. Ban cars in NPS parks in DC!

Rock Creek Park is a vital set of roads for getting from one end of the city to the next.

Rock Creek Park is a park.

So is GW Parkway.

Let's be clear, you are suggesting that both Rock Creek and GW parkways, two vitally important transportation corridors, be shut down.

No, I'm saying that it's not appropriate to use a national park as a highway for cars.

So, yes you are. And add Clara Barton/Cabin John parkway to the list.

Here's the list of regional roads you want to shut down for bicyclists:

B-W Parkway
Blue Ridge Parkway
Clara Barton Parkway
GW Parkway
Rock Creek Parkway
Skyline Drive
Suitland Parkway

I didn't say anything about "shut down for bicyclists." I said "It's not appropriate to use a national park as a highway for cars."

As far as I know, nobody uses Skyline Drive for car-commuting except National Park Service employees, but I'm not that familiar with Skyline Drive, and I might be wrong.

It's used qll the time for recreational driving. Especially by motorcyclists. It's also the only way to get to different parts of Shenendoah NP. The others are used extensively and are essential transportation routes throughout the area. Congratulations, your proposal prevents people from getting to the airports as well.

Terrific. Recreational driving only on the roads through national parks. Nice and slow, so people can see the sights. No car commuting.

Who needs to get to DCA or BWI anyway? Anacostia doesnt need to be connected to anywhere and NW doesnt really include 16th St East, amirite. Who's with me! Shut down Chain Bridge. Shut down the airports. Isolate Anacostia and EOTP. Disconnect MD and VA. Brilliant!

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Who needs to get to DCA or BWI anyway? Anacostia doesnt need to be connected to anywhere and NW doesnt really include 16th St East, amirite. Who's with me! Shut down Chain Bridge. Shut down the airports. Isolate Anacostia and EOTP. Disconnect MD and VA. Brilliant!

Both National Airport and BWI Airport have good transit connections.

"Anacostia" is not a synonym for "DC east of the Anacostia River", and 26% and 28% of households in Wards 7 and 8 don't have access to a vehicle.

I guess it's hard to imagine when you go everywhere in the DC area by car, but the reality is that lots of people are already currently going places not by car, and even more people would be able to do so, for more of their trips, if we stopped prioritizing car travel over all other travel modes.

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Anonymous wrote:
Who needs to get to DCA or BWI anyway? Anacostia doesnt need to be connected to anywhere and NW doesnt really include 16th St East, amirite. Who's with me! Shut down Chain Bridge. Shut down the airports. Isolate Anacostia and EOTP. Disconnect MD and VA. Brilliant!

Both National Airport and BWI Airport have good transit connections.

"Anacostia" is not a synonym for "DC east of the Anacostia River", and 26% and 28% of households in Wards 7 and 8 don't have access to a vehicle.

I guess it's hard to imagine when you go everywhere in the DC area by car, but the reality is that lots of people are already currently going places not by car, and even more people would be able to do so, for more of their trips, if we stopped prioritizing car travel over all other travel modes.

BWI does not. And yes Anacostia is the common name for the area of town that uses the suitland parkway. You'd know that if you've ever actually been to that area. Any idea that starts with the premise that 20% dont use it so let's eff over the 80% that do is fundamentally stupid. Just admit that you didn't realize how many important local transportation links were NPS. Because otherwise, how do I put this nicely...

But all that's besides the point. All of those roads were specifically built to link important monuments, sites, or national parks by road. For instance, Suitland Parkway links Andrews Air Force Base to Bolling Air Force Base. Another important one connects Yellowstone to the Tetons. Rock Creek connects the Zoo to the Lincoln Memorial. Interestingly enough, according to Wikipedia it's on the National Register of Historic Places as an example of an early motorist highway. You can't just eliminate their underlying purpose for being.