Discussion Boundary Map out for APS- elementary schools

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I don’t think they’re going to carve up civic associations unless they absolutely have to in order to make the numbers work, even considering walk zones. Just conjecture on my part.

This has to be one of the funniest posts I’ve ever read- yes, god forbid they break up the Civic Associations— even if that means disregarding obvious and natural walk zones!

How does the Lyon Village Civic Association survive being split between Taylor and ASFS? It must be total chaos and unbearable. Best send them all to the new Key school.

+1. APS uses planning units, not civic associations. There are multiple civic associations in Arlington that are split between schools.

Yes; though very small associations shouldn't be split unless they absolutely need to be. Absolutely no reason at all a large civic association can't, or shouldn't, be divided.

Why? My kids have no idea what civic association we live in; it is a non issue to them. We live near the border of our CA, and they have more friends and more familiarity with the other CA neighborhood than the bulk of our own.

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WTF does the CA have to do with the schools? Answer: NOTHING.

Because some CA are so small that sending the kids off to different schools which each then split into two different schools for the next level does have a significant impact on the # of kids in the cohort going to the next new school together, essentially making the kids start over socially by knowing hardly anyone in the midst of a bunch of other kids who all went to school together and know each other and are on sports teams together and live in the same neighborhood with each other. I am not opposed to a school splitting off to two schools; but I don't think it's best to have the same kids split multiple times and if they start off being split from their neighborhood cohort, it's even more isolating.

[Anonymous]

;-0 Came here for the drama and was not disappointed.

Keep it real Cherroslyn!

But it just makes sense to turn ASFS a walkable neighborhood school, and turn into Key a walkable neighborhood school.

No need to cut out all the "science" gadgets from ASFS - the new Key school will have a lot of young families like us who are looking forward to a walkable school and looking forward to putting our own imprint on the faciliites.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

I don’t think they’re going to carve up civic associations unless they absolutely have to in order to make the numbers work, even considering walk zones. Just conjecture on my part.

This has to be one of the funniest posts I’ve ever read- yes, god forbid they break up the Civic Associations— even if that means disregarding obvious and natural walk zones!

How does the Lyon Village Civic Association survive being split between Taylor and ASFS? It must be total chaos and unbearable. Best send them all to the new Key school.

+1. APS uses planning units, not civic associations. There are multiple civic associations in Arlington that are split between schools.

Yes; though very small associations shouldn't be split unless they absolutely need to be. Absolutely no reason at all a large civic association can't, or shouldn't, be divided.

Why? My kids have no idea what civic association we live in; it is a non issue to them. We live near the border of our CA, and they have more friends and more familiarity with the other CA neighborhood than the bulk of our own.

+1

WTF does the CA have to do with the schools? Answer: NOTHING.

Because some CA are so small that sending the kids off to different schools which each then split into two different schools for the next level does have a significant impact on the # of kids in the cohort going to the next new school together, essentially making the kids start over socially by knowing hardly anyone in the midst of a bunch of other kids who all went to school together and know each other and are on sports teams together and live in the same neighborhood with each other. I am not opposed to a school splitting off to two schools; but I don't think it's best to have the same kids split multiple times and if they start off being split from their neighborhood cohort, it's even more isolating.

You are confusing CAs with Planning Units. CAs have nothing to do with where kids go to school, sport teams or boundaries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:;-0 Came here for the drama and was not disappointed.

Keep it real Cherroslyn!

But it just makes sense to turn ASFS a walkable neighborhood school, and turn into Key a walkable neighborhood school.

No need to cut out all the "science" gadgets from ASFS - the new Key school will have a lot of young families like us who are looking forward to a walkable school and looking forward to putting our own imprint on the faciliites.

You already missed some of the drama—posts are being randomly removed so watch what you say!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don’t think they’re going to carve up civic associations unless they absolutely have to in order to make the numbers work, even considering walk zones. Just conjecture on my part.

This has to be one of the funniest posts I’ve ever read- yes, god forbid they break up the Civic Associations— even if that means disregarding obvious and natural walk zones!

How does the Lyon Village Civic Association survive being split between Taylor and ASFS? It must be total chaos and unbearable. Best send them all to the new Key school.

+1. APS uses planning units, not civic associations. There are multiple civic associations in Arlington that are split between schools.

Yes; though very small associations shouldn't be split unless they absolutely need to be. Absolutely no reason at all a large civic association can't, or shouldn't, be divided.

Why? My kids have no idea what civic association we live in; it is a non issue to them. We live near the border of our CA, and they have more friends and more familiarity with the other CA neighborhood than the bulk of our own.

+1

WTF does the CA have to do with the schools? Answer: NOTHING.

Because some CA are so small that sending the kids off to different schools which each then split into two different schools for the next level does have a significant impact on the # of kids in the cohort going to the next new school together, essentially making the kids start over socially by knowing hardly anyone in the midst of a bunch of other kids who all went to school together and know each other and are on sports teams together and live in the same neighborhood with each other. I am not opposed to a school splitting off to two schools; but I don't think it's best to have the same kids split multiple times and if they start off being split from their neighborhood cohort, it's even more isolating.

Example of one of these small CAs that can’t be split?

[Anonymous]

NP here - Why has this entire chain been taken over by trolls? This chain should be about possible boundary changes, not a contest to see how mean people can be about transportation choices and civic associations. People are really upset about potential changes, especially some families with special needs or other family challenges posed by boundary changes. Let's focus on that, not swiping at each other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here - Why has this entire chain been taken over by trolls? This chain should be about possible boundary changes, not a contest to see how mean people can be about transportation choices and civic associations. People are really upset about potential changes, especially some families with special needs or other family challenges posed by boundary changes. Let's focus on that, not swiping at each other.

Have you followed a boundary change on here before? It’s always like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:;-0 Came here for the drama and was not disappointed.

Keep it real Cherroslyn!

But it just makes sense to turn ASFS a walkable neighborhood school, and turn into Key a walkable neighborhood school.

No need to cut out all the "science" gadgets from ASFS - the new Key school will have a lot of young families like us who are looking forward to a walkable school and looking forward to putting our own imprint on the faciliites.

You already missed some of the drama—posts are being randomly removed so watch what you say!

I doubt that the removals are random.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:;-0 Came here for the drama and was not disappointed.

Keep it real Cherroslyn!

But it just makes sense to turn ASFS a walkable neighborhood school, and turn into Key a walkable neighborhood school.

No need to cut out all the "science" gadgets from ASFS - the new Key school will have a lot of young families like us who are looking forward to a walkable school and looking forward to putting our own imprint on the faciliites.

Is there still talk of trying to move science lab to key if both become neighborhood schools? I thought it was only if it was a swap (though with a Kirkwood boundary it’s move of a program move since majority of current ASFS boundary would move to Key and almost none of current population remains).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:;-0 Came here for the drama and was not disappointed.

Keep it real Cherroslyn!

But it just makes sense to turn ASFS a walkable neighborhood school, and turn into Key a walkable neighborhood school.

No need to cut out all the "science" gadgets from ASFS - the new Key school will have a lot of young families like us who are looking forward to a walkable school and looking forward to putting our own imprint on the faciliites.

Is there still talk of trying to move science lab to key if both become neighborhood schools? I thought it was only if it was a swap (though with a Kirkwood boundary it’s move of a program move since majority of current ASFS boundary would move to Key and almost none of current population remains).

There was talk when the swap was on the table but nothing was set in stone-- Murphy said things would move in the swap but the projected moving costs did not include dismantling the lab. But there really is no reason to move a science lab at this point -- Anyone currently at ASFS who would go to the new Key school will be gone in a few years to middle school anyway so the argument that "ASFS is our neighborhood school/we're entitled to the lab and the staff" is going to be meaningless once they fix the boundaries. APS already has a $26 million+ deficient, so how could APS justify having to pay for ASFS to move to Key now? Especially when another neighborhood school (McKinley? Carlin Springs?) will have to *move* to Key, i.e., the swap is dead for ASFS but still on the table for Key. If immersion moves, the teachers, etc. from the neighborhood school that gets taken over will have to go somewhere. Total waste of funds for a very small subset of families (who again, will be in middle school soon enough). Plus, everyone at ASFS hates the principal so I'm sure most folks will be happy to have a fresh start at Key with a new principal and staff.

ASFS is staying put-- the question is, what will happen to Key?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don’t think they’re going to carve up civic associations unless they absolutely have to in order to make the numbers work, even considering walk zones. Just conjecture on my part.

This has to be one of the funniest posts I’ve ever read- yes, god forbid they break up the Civic Associations— even if that means disregarding obvious and natural walk zones!

How does the Lyon Village Civic Association survive being split between Taylor and ASFS? It must be total chaos and unbearable. Best send them all to the new Key school.

+1. APS uses planning units, not civic associations. There are multiple civic associations in Arlington that are split between schools.

Yes; though very small associations shouldn't be split unless they absolutely need to be. Absolutely no reason at all a large civic association can't, or shouldn't, be divided.

Why? My kids have no idea what civic association we live in; it is a non issue to them. We live near the border of our CA, and they have more friends and more familiarity with the other CA neighborhood than the bulk of our own.

+1

WTF does the CA have to do with the schools? Answer: NOTHING.

Because some CA are so small that sending the kids off to different schools which each then split into two different schools for the next level does have a significant impact on the # of kids in the cohort going to the next new school together, essentially making the kids start over socially by knowing hardly anyone in the midst of a bunch of other kids who all went to school together and know each other and are on sports teams together and live in the same neighborhood with each other. I am not opposed to a school splitting off to two schools; but I don't think it's best to have the same kids split multiple times and if they start off being split from their neighborhood cohort, it's even more isolating.

You are confusing CAs with Planning Units. CAs have nothing to do with where kids go to school, sport teams or boundaries.

No, I am not confusing CAs with PUs. Kids from the same school often get on the same sports teams. So when the kids matriculate and split from their elementary cohort, they are joining other kids at middle school who live in other neighborhoods that went to school together and were on teams together, etc.

In the last boundary round, Columbia Heights kids were sent to three different elementary schools. It is not that big of a neighborhood. Gilliam Place was carved out into a new PU within Alcova heights and districted to a different school. A north section of that same civic association was also directed to a different school. Those small civic associations are split to different elementary schools and then one or two of those elementary schools split into different middle schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:;-0 Came here for the drama and was not disappointed.

Keep it real Cherroslyn!

But it just makes sense to turn ASFS a walkable neighborhood school, and turn into Key a walkable neighborhood school.

No need to cut out all the "science" gadgets from ASFS - the new Key school will have a lot of young families like us who are looking forward to a walkable school and looking forward to putting our own imprint on the faciliites.

Is there still talk of trying to move science lab to key if both become neighborhood schools? I thought it was only if it was a swap (though with a Kirkwood boundary it’s move of a program move since majority of current ASFS boundary would move to Key and almost none of current population remains).

Nope. Key would become a new neighborhood school with TBD exemplary project/focus (maybe not "science").

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:;-0 Came here for the drama and was not disappointed.

Keep it real Cherroslyn!

But it just makes sense to turn ASFS a walkable neighborhood school, and turn into Key a walkable neighborhood school.

No need to cut out all the "science" gadgets from ASFS - the new Key school will have a lot of young families like us who are looking forward to a walkable school and looking forward to putting our own imprint on the faciliites.

Is there still talk of trying to move science lab to key if both become neighborhood schools? I thought it was only if it was a swap (though with a Kirkwood boundary it’s move of a program move since majority of current ASFS boundary would move to Key and almost none of current population remains).

There was talk when the swap was on the table but nothing was set in stone-- Murphy said things would move in the swap but the projected moving costs did not include dismantling the lab. But there really is no reason to move a science lab at this point -- Anyone currently at ASFS who would go to the new Key school will be gone in a few years to middle school anyway so the argument that "ASFS is our neighborhood school/we're entitled to the lab and the staff" is going to be meaningless once they fix the boundaries. APS already has a $26 million+ deficient, so how could APS justify having to pay for ASFS to move to Key now? Especially when another neighborhood school (McKinley? Carlin Springs?) will have to *move* to Key, i.e., the swap is dead for ASFS but still on the table for Key. If immersion moves, the teachers, etc. from the neighborhood school that gets taken over will have to go somewhere. Total waste of funds for a very small subset of families (who again, will be in middle school soon enough). Plus, everyone at ASFS hates the principal so I'm sure most folks will be happy to have a fresh start at Key with a new principal and staff.

ASFS is staying put-- the question is, what will happen to Key?

Brand new neighborhood school. IB?

[Anonymous]

Does anyone really think they are going to decide where or if to move immersion by January and spend April and May planning for the boundary process next fall? I mean, aren’t parents going to be fighting any move or loss or neighborhood school all year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone really think they are going to decide where or if to move immersion by January and spend April and May planning for the boundary process next fall? I mean, aren’t parents going to be fighting any move or loss or neighborhood school all year?

The latest timeline doesn’t commit to making any decisions other than planning unit split recommendations in Spring and final approved boundaries in fall. I suspect anything and everything is on the table until the boundaries are approved in Dec 2020.