Discussion Boundary Map out for APS- elementary schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Talk about gerrymandering. Looks like an effort to split up some of the poverty along the pike, which is a good thing. But it makes other schools less diverse, such as fleet and Abingdon. Barcroft looks like it is screwed though. That should just be a choice school. It gets the bad end of the stick every time.

Demographics need to accompany this map. As do streets.

Disagree that this would screw Barcroft. It looks like it takes Barcroft apartments out of Barcroft, leaving it with only Arlington Mill. Questionable from Barrett's perspective though.

No, look at the map again. Barcroft would just take different sectinons of barcroft apartments. A swath west of George Mason all the way down towards claremont would be included. At the same time, it would lose south arlington forest and the centro corner and all of alcova. that would literally leave the small SFH neighborhood as the only source of middle class wealth in that school.

Nice.

Funny, I told folks that s arlington forest would be sent to barrett and people laughed.

Mark Barcroft a choice school and be done with it. Put Key there. There is minimal buy-in from the SFH community and these types of changes will only solidify the exodus. Just be done with it and move on.

[Anonymous]

Link is back up. I haven’t looked closely to see what’s different.

[Anonymous]

It probably crashed because so many people were looking at it!

I wish they put numbers with this showing how many kids are at each school.

Speaking of, when are the Sept. enrollment numbers coming out? I keep looking. They are normally posted by now. Makes me wonder what's up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It probably crashed because so many people were looking at it!

I wish they put numbers with this showing how many kids are at each school.

Speaking of, when are the Sept. enrollment numbers coming out? I keep looking. They are normally posted by now. Makes me wonder what's up.

Where do the enrollment numbers usually get posted?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It probably crashed because so many people were looking at it!

I wish they put numbers with this showing how many kids are at each school.

Speaking of, when are the Sept. enrollment numbers coming out? I keep looking. They are normally posted by now. Makes me wonder what's up.

You're my soulmate. I check a couple times every day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It probably crashed because so many people were looking at it!

I wish they put numbers with this showing how many kids are at each school.

Speaking of, when are the Sept. enrollment numbers coming out? I keep looking. They are normally posted by now. Makes me wonder what's up.

You're my soulmate. I check a couple times every day.

Me too, there are at least 3 of us out there. At least I'm not alone in my weirdness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It probably crashed because so many people were looking at it!

I wish they put numbers with this showing how many kids are at each school.

Speaking of, when are the Sept. enrollment numbers coming out? I keep looking. They are normally posted by now. Makes me wonder what's up.

Where do the enrollment numbers usually get posted?

I just found this and answered my own question.
https://www.apsva.us/statistics/monthly-enrollment/

So why isn't September up yet??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It probably crashed because so many people were looking at it!

I wish they put numbers with this showing how many kids are at each school.

Speaking of, when are the Sept. enrollment numbers coming out? I keep looking. They are normally posted by now. Makes me wonder what's up.

You're my soulmate. I check a couple times every day.

Me too, there are at least 3 of us out there. At least I'm not alone in my weirdness.

I'm new here, but make it 4.

[Anonymous]

Ha, ha, well that makes me feel better. The previous Sept. ones are all dated early October so it should be out by now.

The TJ principal does monthly robo calls and the last one said that only half of all families have done the required online verification (formerly the first day packet). I don't know the system wide numbers, but if that's any indication, the move to drop paper was a disaster. I wonder if that's the reason for the delay?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ha, ha, well that makes me feel better. The previous Sept. ones are all dated early October so it should be out by now.

The TJ principal does monthly robo calls and the last one said that only half of all families have done the required online verification (formerly the first day packet). I don't know the system wide numbers, but if that's any indication, the move to drop paper was a disaster. I wonder if that's the reason for the delay?

*Hands out drinks to my three new friends*

I never thought about the online verification issue. I always thought, naively I guess, that it was simply counting the number of heads present in each classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ha, ha, well that makes me feel better. The previous Sept. ones are all dated early October so it should be out by now.

The TJ principal does monthly robo calls and the last one said that only half of all families have done the required online verification (formerly the first day packet). I don't know the system wide numbers, but if that's any indication, the move to drop paper was a disaster. I wonder if that's the reason for the delay?

Good point! I submitted ours in September, received email confirmation that the school received it and still got a letter home from school last week saying that we hadn't completed the online verification yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It probably crashed because so many people were looking at it!

I wish they put numbers with this showing how many kids are at each school.

Speaking of, when are the Sept. enrollment numbers coming out? I keep looking. They are normally posted by now. Makes me wonder what's up.

There’s no point in giving detailed data for the map because it’s not the start of a boundary discussion that they’ll be working from. It’s a rough “here’s what it would look like if we just balanced enrollment and didn’t move option schools, so assume all neighborhood schools would be at the same % capacity and then do the math if you feel the need to know how many students would be at each school.

[Anonymous]

For people who want to read tea leaves, look for the zones with long, skinny, snake-like zones on this map, and that’s where they’ll want to put option schools because it means they can’t fill all of the neighborhood schools from the surrounding area. Places where the zones are more compact are safe from being turned into an option. So, for instance, Claremont and will stay option (but not necessarily immersion) because otherwise the Abingdon boundary gets even more snake-like. Oakridge is not becoming an option school. Key will become neighborhood and they’ll move an option school into the NW. ATS building stays option (but not necessarily ATS/IB) because we don’t need more neighborhood seats there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It probably crashed because so many people were looking at it!

I wish they put numbers with this showing how many kids are at each school.

Speaking of, when are the Sept. enrollment numbers coming out? I keep looking. They are normally posted by now. Makes me wonder what's up.

There’s no point in giving detailed data for the map because it’s not the start of a boundary discussion that they’ll be working from. It’s a rough “here’s what it would look like if we just balanced enrollment and didn’t move option schools, so assume all neighborhood schools would be at the same % capacity and then do the math if you feel the need to know how many students would be at each school.

I'm asking because I know Fleet is around 650 this year so it's about 100 students under. But the map shows them adding much of Alcova Heights to Fleet plus going north of 50 to pull in kids there. When Gilliam place opens, that brings 40-50 new kids to Fleet (as I recall). I was surprised they could make the boundaries that much larger. But they did give Fleet some Montessori pre-K seats, so maybe they are taking those away? I just like to understand their assumptions. We know they are not always great with numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It probably crashed because so many people were looking at it!

I wish they put numbers with this showing how many kids are at each school.

Speaking of, when are the Sept. enrollment numbers coming out? I keep looking. They are normally posted by now. Makes me wonder what's up.

There’s no point in giving detailed data for the map because it’s not the start of a boundary discussion that they’ll be working from. It’s a rough “here’s what it would look like if we just balanced enrollment and didn’t move option schools, so assume all neighborhood schools would be at the same % capacity and then do the math if you feel the need to know how many students would be at each school.

Yes, no one should be getting bent out of shape over this as it is an intentional tool to manipulate the community. APS has no intention of implementing something like this, they are just want this as the starting point in people's minds so they will come around to their follow up options and think "oh this is so much better" so don't go beating down APS doors, this is going to change