Prosecutor to Investigate Origins of FBI Trump-Russia Probe

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What political party are Durham and Barr? Our president, in his great and unmatched wisdom, has declared you can't investigate or make accusations against someone of another party, because of too much bias. Totally undermines the credibility of any such accusations or investigations. To quote our fearless leader, this is a scam.

LOL.
Neither Durham or Barr are conducting their investigation anonymously. I have no doubt they will have names, evidence, and statements from witnesses to back up any claims they make.

It doesn't matter what "party" they are from.

But it kind of does matter that hey they aren’t from the same plane of reality as the rest of us. And plus also, they are doing the wet work for Putin.

The whole "Putin" narrative is false, weak and tired.
If ANYONE was doing the work of Putin, we can look back to the one who told the Russians he would "have more flexibility" after the election.
Had Trump said that, you would have lost your marbles. But, since it was Obama - no worries.

And, BTW, your "plane of reality" may just get an adjustment in a few weeks/months when we learn more about the previous administration's and the IC involvement in our 2016 election.

This is so typical. You have beaten the whole "I'll have more flexibility after the election" thing to death. When Russia took Ukraine, everything changed. Russia was no longer part of the G-8, Obama levied sanctions that proved crippling and led to Putin to unleash cyberfury on Brexit and the US. At some point, you really have to get over Obama and understand that our patriots in the intelligence community, the findings of the Mueller Report and a bi-partisan Senate report disagree with your assessment.

At some point, you have to acknowledge that every foreign policy move Trump has made, benefits Putin and Russia.

Or, you can keep harping on 2012.

Such crap.

After Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, Ukrainian leaders desperately requested from President Barack Obama defensive anti-tank weapons systems that could fend off the invading Russian T-72 tanks in eastern Ukraine. In 2015, members of the Senate Armed Services Committee — Democrats and Republicans — encouraged Obama to grant this request to help Ukraine defend itself. Obama refused . Soon after coming into office, Trump changed course , and the Ukrainians now have Javelin anti-tank weapons systems from the United States. Russian tank drivers have a lot more to worry about today.

The Trump administration has also replaced Obama’s reticence regarding U.S. troop deployments near Russia with a full embrace of the European Deterrence Initiative. In just more than two years in office, Trump has requested more than $17 billion for EDI compared with just $5 billion requested in Obama’s final three years in office. As a result, thousands of U.S. troops, along with other NATO allies, have deployed to Poland, the Baltics and Norway to deter further Russian expansion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-has-not-been-soft-on-russia-hes-been-tougher-than-obama/2019/03/28/08e88a04-5194-11e9-88a1-ed346f0ec94f_story.html

[Anonymous]

When asked by CNN anchor Jim Sciutto if he was concerned that Attorney General Barr's and U.S. Attorney John Durham's criminal investigation into the scandal will find any wrongdoing on their part, Clapper said, "Well, I don't know, I don't think there was any wrongdoing," which doesn't exactly inspire a lot of confidence, but then he said something really interesting. "I know, for my part, my main concern was with the Russians and the threat posed by the Russians to our very political fabric and uhhhh, the message I'm getting from all of this is apparently what we were supposed to have done was to ignore the Russian interference, ignore the Russian meddling and the threat that it poses to us, and oh, by the way, blown off what the then commander-in-chief, President Obama, told us to do, which was to assemble all of the reporting we could, that we had available to us."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What political party are Durham and Barr? Our president, in his great and unmatched wisdom, has declared you can't investigate or make accusations against someone of another party, because of too much bias. Totally undermines the credibility of any such accusations or investigations. To quote our fearless leader, this is a scam.

LOL.
Neither Durham or Barr are conducting their investigation anonymously. I have no doubt they will have names, evidence, and statements from witnesses to back up any claims they make.

It doesn't matter what "party" they are from.

But it kind of does matter that hey they aren’t from the same plane of reality as the rest of us. And plus also, they are doing the wet work for Putin.

The whole "Putin" narrative is false, weak and tired.
If ANYONE was doing the work of Putin, we can look back to the one who told the Russians he would "have more flexibility" after the election.
Had Trump said that, you would have lost your marbles. But, since it was Obama - no worries.

And, BTW, your "plane of reality" may just get an adjustment in a few weeks/months when we learn more about the previous administration's and the IC involvement in our 2016 election.

This is so typical. You have beaten the whole "I'll have more flexibility after the election" thing to death. When Russia took Ukraine, everything changed. Russia was no longer part of the G-8, Obama levied sanctions that proved crippling and led to Putin to unleash cyberfury on Brexit and the US. At some point, you really have to get over Obama and understand that our patriots in the intelligence community, the findings of the Mueller Report and a bi-partisan Senate report disagree with your assessment.

At some point, you have to acknowledge that every foreign policy move Trump has made, benefits Putin and Russia.

Or, you can keep harping on 2012.

This is a ridiculous statement and a flat out lie. Stop hyperventilating.

[Anonymous]

Quit gaslighting.

[Anonymous]

Anything that Trump has done for Ukraine has been part of a quid pro quo in exchange for killing investigations of crimes related to Manafort or starting fraudulent investigations of conspiracy theories about 2016 and Biden.

The Trump Administration okayed the first Javelins for Ukraine in 2017 in exchange for Ukraine stopping the three on-going investigations that involved Manafort. They were not investigating Manafort directly, but were investigating the Russian-backed criminals he worked for. The U.S. made Ukraine stop those investigations of fraud, money laundering, and other crimes as the quid for the quo of the Javelins.

That was when they recruited Lutsenko into their criminal conspiracy. Meanwhile another cell of the Trump criminal conspiracy was trying to rig the Ukrainian natural gas contract for a cabal of Trump cronies and donors. Lutsenko then smeared Ambassador Yovanovitch to get her out of the way of the Trump criminal conspiracies, and Lutsenko promised to start fraudulent investigations of CrowdStrike and the Bidens.

But then Zelensky won the Ukrainian election, and Trump criminal conspiracy had to threaten and withhold support from Ukraine to pressure Zelensky to keep their co-conspirator Lutsenko or to commit publicly to initiate the political investigations.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for writing it all out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anything that Trump has done for Ukraine has been part of a quid pro quo in exchange for killing investigations of crimes related to Manafort or starting fraudulent investigations of conspiracy theories about 2016 and Biden.

The Trump Administration okayed the first Javelins for Ukraine in 2017 in exchange for Ukraine stopping the three on-going investigations that involved Manafort. They were not investigating Manafort directly, but were investigating the Russian-backed criminals he worked for. The U.S. made Ukraine stop those investigations of fraud, money laundering, and other crimes as the quid for the quo of the Javelins.

That was when they recruited Lutsenko into their criminal conspiracy. Meanwhile another cell of the Trump criminal conspiracy was trying to rig the Ukrainian natural gas contract for a cabal of Trump cronies and donors. Lutsenko then smeared Ambassador Yovanovitch to get her out of the way of the Trump criminal conspiracies, and Lutsenko promised to start fraudulent investigations of CrowdStrike and the Bidens.

But then Zelensky won the Ukrainian election, and Trump criminal conspiracy had to threaten and withhold support from Ukraine to pressure Zelensky to keep their co-conspirator Lutsenko or to commit publicly to initiate the political investigations.

You will be sorely disappointed when Durham issues his report.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything that Trump has done for Ukraine has been part of a quid pro quo in exchange for killing investigations of crimes related to Manafort or starting fraudulent investigations of conspiracy theories about 2016 and Biden.

The Trump Administration okayed the first Javelins for Ukraine in 2017 in exchange for Ukraine stopping the three on-going investigations that involved Manafort. They were not investigating Manafort directly, but were investigating the Russian-backed criminals he worked for. The U.S. made Ukraine stop those investigations of fraud, money laundering, and other crimes as the quid for the quo of the Javelins.

That was when they recruited Lutsenko into their criminal conspiracy. Meanwhile another cell of the Trump criminal conspiracy was trying to rig the Ukrainian natural gas contract for a cabal of Trump cronies and donors. Lutsenko then smeared Ambassador Yovanovitch to get her out of the way of the Trump criminal conspiracies, and Lutsenko promised to start fraudulent investigations of CrowdStrike and the Bidens.

But then Zelensky won the Ukrainian election, and Trump criminal conspiracy had to threaten and withhold support from Ukraine to pressure Zelensky to keep their co-conspirator Lutsenko or to commit publicly to initiate the political investigations.

You will be sorely disappointed when Durham issues his report.

And when the FISA report comes out, amirite?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything that Trump has done for Ukraine has been part of a quid pro quo in exchange for killing investigations of crimes related to Manafort or starting fraudulent investigations of conspiracy theories about 2016 and Biden.

The Trump Administration okayed the first Javelins for Ukraine in 2017 in exchange for Ukraine stopping the three on-going investigations that involved Manafort. They were not investigating Manafort directly, but were investigating the Russian-backed criminals he worked for. The U.S. made Ukraine stop those investigations of fraud, money laundering, and other crimes as the quid for the quo of the Javelins.

That was when they recruited Lutsenko into their criminal conspiracy. Meanwhile another cell of the Trump criminal conspiracy was trying to rig the Ukrainian natural gas contract for a cabal of Trump cronies and donors. Lutsenko then smeared Ambassador Yovanovitch to get her out of the way of the Trump criminal conspiracies, and Lutsenko promised to start fraudulent investigations of CrowdStrike and the Bidens.

But then Zelensky won the Ukrainian election, and Trump criminal conspiracy had to threaten and withhold support from Ukraine to pressure Zelensky to keep their co-conspirator Lutsenko or to commit publicly to initiate the political investigations.

You will be sorely disappointed when Durham issues his report.

We won’t. Nobody is this stupid. The evidence is all right in public. I know it’s worked before, but you guys just got too sloppy and overconfident.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anything that Trump has done for Ukraine has been part of a quid pro quo in exchange for killing investigations of crimes related to Manafort or starting fraudulent investigations of conspiracy theories about 2016 and Biden.

The Trump Administration okayed the first Javelins for Ukraine in 2017 in exchange for Ukraine stopping the three on-going investigations that involved Manafort. They were not investigating Manafort directly, but were investigating the Russian-backed criminals he worked for. The U.S. made Ukraine stop those investigations of fraud, money laundering, and other crimes as the quid for the quo of the Javelins.

That was when they recruited Lutsenko into their criminal conspiracy. Meanwhile another cell of the Trump criminal conspiracy was trying to rig the Ukrainian natural gas contract for a cabal of Trump cronies and donors. Lutsenko then smeared Ambassador Yovanovitch to get her out of the way of the Trump criminal conspiracies, and Lutsenko promised to start fraudulent investigations of CrowdStrike and the Bidens.

But then Zelensky won the Ukrainian election, and Trump criminal conspiracy had to threaten and withhold support from Ukraine to pressure Zelensky to keep their co-conspirator Lutsenko or to commit publicly to initiate the political investigations.

The Ukrainians has already reopened the Burisma investigation well before Trump's call to Zelensky...while Poroshenko was still president.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything that Trump has done for Ukraine has been part of a quid pro quo in exchange for killing investigations of crimes related to Manafort or starting fraudulent investigations of conspiracy theories about 2016 and Biden.

The Trump Administration okayed the first Javelins for Ukraine in 2017 in exchange for Ukraine stopping the three on-going investigations that involved Manafort. They were not investigating Manafort directly, but were investigating the Russian-backed criminals he worked for. The U.S. made Ukraine stop those investigations of fraud, money laundering, and other crimes as the quid for the quo of the Javelins.

That was when they recruited Lutsenko into their criminal conspiracy. Meanwhile another cell of the Trump criminal conspiracy was trying to rig the Ukrainian natural gas contract for a cabal of Trump cronies and donors. Lutsenko then smeared Ambassador Yovanovitch to get her out of the way of the Trump criminal conspiracies, and Lutsenko promised to start fraudulent investigations of CrowdStrike and the Bidens.

But then Zelensky won the Ukrainian election, and Trump criminal conspiracy had to threaten and withhold support from Ukraine to pressure Zelensky to keep their co-conspirator Lutsenko or to commit publicly to initiate the political investigations.

The Ukrainians has already reopened the Burisma investigation well before Trump's call to Zelensky...while Poroshenko was still president.

Lutsenko had restarted it under Poroschenko, but Zelensky replaced him with his own guy. The new guy just said he would "audit" the old investigation, not restart the investigation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything that Trump has done for Ukraine has been part of a quid pro quo in exchange for killing investigations of crimes related to Manafort or starting fraudulent investigations of conspiracy theories about 2016 and Biden.

The Trump Administration okayed the first Javelins for Ukraine in 2017 in exchange for Ukraine stopping the three on-going investigations that involved Manafort. They were not investigating Manafort directly, but were investigating the Russian-backed criminals he worked for. The U.S. made Ukraine stop those investigations of fraud, money laundering, and other crimes as the quid for the quo of the Javelins.

That was when they recruited Lutsenko into their criminal conspiracy. Meanwhile another cell of the Trump criminal conspiracy was trying to rig the Ukrainian natural gas contract for a cabal of Trump cronies and donors. Lutsenko then smeared Ambassador Yovanovitch to get her out of the way of the Trump criminal conspiracies, and Lutsenko promised to start fraudulent investigations of CrowdStrike and the Bidens.

But then Zelensky won the Ukrainian election, and Trump criminal conspiracy had to threaten and withhold support from Ukraine to pressure Zelensky to keep their co-conspirator Lutsenko or to commit publicly to initiate the political investigations.

You will be sorely disappointed when Durham issues his report.

Not worried. It if is a legitimate investigation, it will confirm that the Trump campaign and the Russians were crooked then and are still crooked now. The evidence is overwhelming and the obstruction of justice is continuing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything that Trump has done for Ukraine has been part of a quid pro quo in exchange for killing investigations of crimes related to Manafort or starting fraudulent investigations of conspiracy theories about 2016 and Biden.

The Trump Administration okayed the first Javelins for Ukraine in 2017 in exchange for Ukraine stopping the three on-going investigations that involved Manafort. They were not investigating Manafort directly, but were investigating the Russian-backed criminals he worked for. The U.S. made Ukraine stop those investigations of fraud, money laundering, and other crimes as the quid for the quo of the Javelins.

That was when they recruited Lutsenko into their criminal conspiracy. Meanwhile another cell of the Trump criminal conspiracy was trying to rig the Ukrainian natural gas contract for a cabal of Trump cronies and donors. Lutsenko then smeared Ambassador Yovanovitch to get her out of the way of the Trump criminal conspiracies, and Lutsenko promised to start fraudulent investigations of CrowdStrike and the Bidens.

But then Zelensky won the Ukrainian election, and Trump criminal conspiracy had to threaten and withhold support from Ukraine to pressure Zelensky to keep their co-conspirator Lutsenko or to commit publicly to initiate the political investigations.

You will be sorely disappointed when Durham issues his report.

Not worried. It if is a legitimate investigation, it will confirm that the Trump campaign and the Russians were crooked then and are still crooked now. The evidence is overwhelming and the obstruction of justice is continuing.

If Durham had found anything that even remotely supported Trump, then Barr, Pompeo, Giuliani, Sondland, et al would not be so desperately trying to coerce governments and witnesses to falsify evidence and retract previous statements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything that Trump has done for Ukraine has been part of a quid pro quo in exchange for killing investigations of crimes related to Manafort or starting fraudulent investigations of conspiracy theories about 2016 and Biden.

The Trump Administration okayed the first Javelins for Ukraine in 2017 in exchange for Ukraine stopping the three on-going investigations that involved Manafort. They were not investigating Manafort directly, but were investigating the Russian-backed criminals he worked for. The U.S. made Ukraine stop those investigations of fraud, money laundering, and other crimes as the quid for the quo of the Javelins.

That was when they recruited Lutsenko into their criminal conspiracy. Meanwhile another cell of the Trump criminal conspiracy was trying to rig the Ukrainian natural gas contract for a cabal of Trump cronies and donors. Lutsenko then smeared Ambassador Yovanovitch to get her out of the way of the Trump criminal conspiracies, and Lutsenko promised to start fraudulent investigations of CrowdStrike and the Bidens.

But then Zelensky won the Ukrainian election, and Trump criminal conspiracy had to threaten and withhold support from Ukraine to pressure Zelensky to keep their co-conspirator Lutsenko or to commit publicly to initiate the political investigations.

You will be sorely disappointed when Durham issues his report.

Not worried. It if is a legitimate investigation, it will confirm that the Trump campaign and the Russians were crooked then and are still crooked now. The evidence is overwhelming and the obstruction of justice is continuing.

Sorry, but that is not what he is investigating. That investigation is over. It's not your turn anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything that Trump has done for Ukraine has been part of a quid pro quo in exchange for killing investigations of crimes related to Manafort or starting fraudulent investigations of conspiracy theories about 2016 and Biden.

The Trump Administration okayed the first Javelins for Ukraine in 2017 in exchange for Ukraine stopping the three on-going investigations that involved Manafort. They were not investigating Manafort directly, but were investigating the Russian-backed criminals he worked for. The U.S. made Ukraine stop those investigations of fraud, money laundering, and other crimes as the quid for the quo of the Javelins.

That was when they recruited Lutsenko into their criminal conspiracy. Meanwhile another cell of the Trump criminal conspiracy was trying to rig the Ukrainian natural gas contract for a cabal of Trump cronies and donors. Lutsenko then smeared Ambassador Yovanovitch to get her out of the way of the Trump criminal conspiracies, and Lutsenko promised to start fraudulent investigations of CrowdStrike and the Bidens.

But then Zelensky won the Ukrainian election, and Trump criminal conspiracy had to threaten and withhold support from Ukraine to pressure Zelensky to keep their co-conspirator Lutsenko or to commit publicly to initiate the political investigations.

You will be sorely disappointed when Durham issues his report.

Not worried. It if is a legitimate investigation, it will confirm that the Trump campaign and the Russians were crooked then and are still crooked now. The evidence is overwhelming and the obstruction of justice is continuing.

Sorry, but that is not what he is investigating. That investigation is over. It's not your turn anymore.

He can't debunk the origins of the Russia probe if it was all true. He is finding that it was all true and the probe was justified.