Concerned about buying in WJ cluster because of re-zoning

[Anonymous]

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The part that people confuse is that the schools are representing a demographic trend. The DCC is rapidly becoming poorer and concentrated minority, Bethesda has always been mostly high SES and white. There was a time that most of MoCo was white a middle class. MoCo isn’t becoming segregated, it is becoming majority minority starting at the cheapest parts and spreading from there.

This is an important point as the growing Latino population is a new trend that is growing rapidly. Montgomery County can prosper with a growing Latino population but it needs to learn how to actually raise the scores of this growing population not hide their failures by sprinkling high SES white or asian kids around them. It serves no one to pretend a school is good when 40% of the school's population is failing. I get so sick of the UMC DCC parents thinking that if they could just get more white families to move in the scores will go up and everything will be great. The non-white and non-asian kids are still failing which leads to more poverty. Newsflash - while the non-white and non-asian kids may not failing you are really fooling yourself if you think they are doing great academically in this situation. They aren't but parents judge academic talent based on how well the kid is doing in comparison to others. UMC DCC parents get a real boost from having their mediocre kids on top while the minority kids are at the bottom. As the demographics change the scores will just sink lower and real estate will stagnate unless the school system starts actually educating its students.

I get sick reading posts like this.

The truth makes you sick? I get sick by people who stick their heads in the sand and pretend to see rainbows. So we are even

If it's any consolation, I get sick reading about the fascist kids saluting Hitler and using bad language at the W's

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, I'm I interpreting this right that Wheaton will most likely not have any redistricting to Woodward due to its better than average utilization? Seems like its the closes DCC school.

Wheaton will give up 1-2 elementary schools to Woodward and then add some ES from other HS clusters to help them with over crowding.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, I'm I interpreting this right that Wheaton will most likely not have any redistricting to Woodward due to its better than average utilization? Seems like its the closes DCC school.

Wheaton will give up 1-2 elementary schools to Woodward and then add some ES from other HS clusters to help them with over crowding.

I don't think that 2 schools from Wheaton will join WJ/Woodward.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, I'm I interpreting this right that Wheaton will most likely not have any redistricting to Woodward due to its better than average utilization? Seems like its the closes DCC school.

Wheaton will give up 1-2 elementary schools to Woodward and then add some ES from other HS clusters to help them with over crowding.

I don't think that 2 schools from Wheaton will join WJ/Woodward.

Not the pp you replied to but WHY NOT? Think about it, WJ is overcrowded. They will take some kids from there and move them to Woodward. Then they are going to take kids from OTHER SCHOOLS and put them in Woodward. They aren't going to just divide the kids at WJ in half an say half keep going to WJ and the other half go to Woodward, case closed. It's a FACT that kids going to other high schools are going to be reassigned to Woodward. That means that if your are currently assigned to WJ and you are redistricted to Woodward, the student population WILL CHANGE. FACT.

People said Viers Mill Village used to attend Woodward and were reassigned to Weaton, I haven't researched it but have no reason not to believe them. That means that Viers Mill Village will probably be moved back. Then there's Kensington which is even further East than Viers Mill Village, they'll probably be reassigned to Woodward. That means home prices in Kensington will probably fall and home prices in Viers Mill Village will probably rise after redistricting.

TLDR: The whole idea that both schools will pull from the same pools of kids is naive and absolutely false in a pure numerical sense. It defies all logic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, I'm I interpreting this right that Wheaton will most likely not have any redistricting to Woodward due to its better than average utilization? Seems like its the closes DCC school.

Wheaton will give up 1-2 elementary schools to Woodward and then add some ES from other HS clusters to help them with over crowding.

I don't think that 2 schools from Wheaton will join WJ/Woodward.

Not the pp you replied to but WHY NOT? Think about it, WJ is overcrowded. They will take some kids from there and move them to Woodward. Then they are going to take kids from OTHER SCHOOLS and put them in Woodward. They aren't going to just divide the kids at WJ in half an say half keep going to WJ and the other half go to Woodward, case closed. It's a FACT that kids going to other high schools are going to be reassigned to Woodward. That means that if your are currently assigned to WJ and you are redistricted to Woodward, the student population WILL CHANGE. FACT.

People said Viers Mill Village used to attend Woodward and were reassigned to Weaton, I haven't researched it but have no reason not to believe them. That means that Viers Mill Village will probably be moved back. Then there's Kensington which is even further East than Viers Mill Village, they'll probably be reassigned to Woodward. That means home prices in Kensington will probably fall and home prices in Viers Mill Village will probably rise after redistricting.

TLDR: The whole idea that both schools will pull from the same pools of kids is naive and absolutely false in a pure numerical sense. It defies all logic.

Why not? Because Wheaton is under enrolled and has a very hard time drawing middle class kids. They aren’t going pull some and add more room to a school nobody will opt into. Not going to happen

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, I'm I interpreting this right that Wheaton will most likely not have any redistricting to Woodward due to its better than average utilization? Seems like its the closes DCC school.

Wheaton will give up 1-2 elementary schools to Woodward and then add some ES from other HS clusters to help them with over crowding.

I don't think that 2 schools from Wheaton will join WJ/Woodward.

Not the pp you replied to but WHY NOT? Think about it, WJ is overcrowded. They will take some kids from there and move them to Woodward. Then they are going to take kids from OTHER SCHOOLS and put them in Woodward. They aren't going to just divide the kids at WJ in half an say half keep going to WJ and the other half go to Woodward, case closed. It's a FACT that kids going to other high schools are going to be reassigned to Woodward. That means that if your are currently assigned to WJ and you are redistricted to Woodward, the student population WILL CHANGE. FACT.

People said Viers Mill Village used to attend Woodward and were reassigned to Weaton, I haven't researched it but have no reason not to believe them. That means that Viers Mill Village will probably be moved back. Then there's Kensington which is even further East than Viers Mill Village, they'll probably be reassigned to Woodward. That means home prices in Kensington will probably fall and home prices in Viers Mill Village will probably rise after redistricting.

TLDR: The whole idea that both schools will pull from the same pools of kids is naive and absolutely false in a pure numerical sense. It defies all logic.

Why not? Because Wheaton is under enrolled and has a very hard time drawing middle class kids. They aren’t going pull some and add more room to a school nobody will opt into. Not going to happen

Perhaps not Wheaton then but other high schools certainly. They aren't going to only reassign the "W" schools to Woodward. It will definitely have different demographics than WJ.

[Anonymous]

Wheaton is actually a very popular choice in the DCC.

[Anonymous]

I haven't seen this story mentioned in a while - the part where rezoning may also include Whitman -- remember, those kids living near Suburban used to all go to WJ. They could go back to WJ, some WJ kids into the new Woodward. And Woodward was a good school, back in the day.

http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Beat/2017/Study-Group-To-Look-at-Using-Woodward-High-To-Deal-With-Capacity-Crunch-at-Eight-Schools/

[Anonymous]

Woodward will probably be comprised of a mix of ES from WJ, Wheaton, and Einstein. MCPS also invited Whitman and BCC to the discussion meetings, so it's possible the reshuffling affects them too, e.g. perhaps some areas of Whitman/BCC backfill some of the spots that opened up at WJ. It doesn't matter that Wheaton is underenrolled. By shifting some of Wheaton's ES to Woodward, it opens up spots at Wheaton for other DCC ES to recluster, shifting everything westward. If you own in the part of DCC that gets rezoned to Woodward, you should make out pretty well.

[Anonymous]

Maybe they want to open spots at Wheaton to expand its magnets. Those programs are popular and pull higher SES kids to the school from within the DCC.

[Anonymous]

Kids who succeed come from homes that value education and insist upon success. The students who are failing do not have that support. Find a house you like and move in. If you’re looking in the Kensington area around Strathmore end, you’ll be fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, I'm I interpreting this right that Wheaton will most likely not have any redistricting to Woodward due to its better than average utilization? Seems like its the closes DCC school.

Wheaton will give up 1-2 elementary schools to Woodward and then add some ES from other HS clusters to help them with over crowding.

I don't think that 2 schools from Wheaton will join WJ/Woodward.

Not the pp you replied to but WHY NOT? Think about it, WJ is overcrowded. They will take some kids from there and move them to Woodward. Then they are going to take kids from OTHER SCHOOLS and put them in Woodward. They aren't going to just divide the kids at WJ in half an say half keep going to WJ and the other half go to Woodward, case closed. It's a FACT that kids going to other high schools are going to be reassigned to Woodward. That means that if your are currently assigned to WJ and you are redistricted to Woodward, the student population WILL CHANGE. FACT.

People said Viers Mill Village used to attend Woodward and were reassigned to Weaton, I haven't researched it but have no reason not to believe them. That means that Viers Mill Village will probably be moved back. Then there's Kensington which is even further East than Viers Mill Village, they'll probably be reassigned to Woodward. That means home prices in Kensington will probably fall and home prices in Viers Mill Village will probably rise after redistricting.

TLDR: The whole idea that both schools will pull from the same pools of kids is naive and absolutely false in a pure numerical sense. It defies all logic.

I am under no delusion that Woodward will look anything similar to current WJ. It will look totally different and prices will fall in Woodward for sure. I live very close to planned Woodward site. I was only commenting about Wheaton losing 2 ES may be a bit too much given Wheaton will have extra capacity without losing any. I think one from Wheaton and one from Einstein is more likely.

[Anonymous]

Just play it safe and move to the Wootton district.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just play it safe and move to the Wootton district.

This is so much farther out. I’d rather stay where I am near Strathmore and see how the WJ—>Woodward shift turns out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just play it safe and move to the Wootton district.

This is so much farther out. I’d rather stay where I am near Strathmore and see how the WJ—>Woodward shift turns out.

Well, if you are already there with kids, you should wait to see the final boundary. It will be not a good idea to move out before seeing boundary. Not sure why PP suggested to move out for families who are already there.

Now for new buyers, it's a different issue.