Concerned about buying in WJ cluster because of re-zoning

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t MCPS make a Western Consortium of BCC, Whitman, Woodward and WJ? Some DCC students could be moved to the Western Consortium.

Wasn't B-CC originally part of the DCC until parents complained? It is somewhat ironic that geographically B-CC is the most down county high-school in MCPS.

I’ve seen that rumor here, and it’s repeated in the following link, with a link to a Post article that in no way supports that claim. I’ve lived in the B-CC cluster forever and really think I would have heard about this when it supposedly happened, since that was the year after we bought our house and when we started having kids. I’m starting to think it’s an urban legend like “the residents of Georgetown kept out Metro.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t MCPS make a Western Consortium of BCC, Whitman, Woodward and WJ? Some DCC students could be moved to the Western Consortium.

Wasn't B-CC originally part of the DCC until parents complained? It is somewhat ironic that geographically B-CC is the most down county high-school in MCPS.

I’ve seen that rumor here, and it’s repeated in the following link, with a link to a Post article that in no way supports that claim. I’ve lived in the B-CC cluster forever and really think I would have heard about this when it supposedly happened, since that was the year after we bought our house and when we started having kids. I’m starting to think it’s an urban legend like “the residents of Georgetown kept out Metro.”

Whoops, link here: http://www.justupthepike.com/2013/06/northeast-consortium-example-of-school.html?m=1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t MCPS make a Western Consortium of BCC, Whitman, Woodward and WJ? Some DCC students could be moved to the Western Consortium.

Wasn't B-CC originally part of the DCC until parents complained? It is somewhat ironic that geographically B-CC is the most down county high-school in MCPS.

I’ve seen that rumor here, and it’s repeated in the following link, with a link to a Post article that in no way supports that claim. I’ve lived in the B-CC cluster forever and really think I would have heard about this when it supposedly happened, since that was the year after we bought our house and when we started having kids. I’m starting to think it’s an urban legend like “the residents of Georgetown kept out Metro.”

Whoops, link here: http://www.justupthepike.com/2013/06/northeast-consortium-example-of-school.html?m=1

The Metis report refers to the reason as "community advocacy":

From the outset, the consortium included Montgomery Blair, John F. Kennedy, Albert Einstein,
and the re-opened Northwood HS. The Board considered adding a fifth school in the
consortium. At first, Bethesda-Chevy Chase (B-CC) HS was proposed, but in the end the Board
decided to include Wheaton HS in response to community advocacy. In contrast to Wheaton
HS, which had similar student demographics to other DCC schools, B-CC HS would have
provided better opportunities for achieving greater diversity across the consortium because it
had a student population with higher proportions of White and higher income students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t MCPS make a Western Consortium of BCC, Whitman, Woodward and WJ? Some DCC students could be moved to the Western Consortium.

Wasn't B-CC originally part of the DCC until parents complained? It is somewhat ironic that geographically B-CC is the most down county high-school in MCPS.

I’ve seen that rumor here, and it’s repeated in the following link, with a link to a Post article that in no way supports that claim. I’ve lived in the B-CC cluster forever and really think I would have heard about this when it supposedly happened, since that was the year after we bought our house and when we started having kids. I’m starting to think it’s an urban legend like “the residents of Georgetown kept out Metro.”

Whoops, link here: http://www.justupthepike.com/2013/06/northeast-consortium-example-of-school.html?m=1

The Metis report refers to the reason as "community advocacy":

From the outset, the consortium included Montgomery Blair, John F. Kennedy, Albert Einstein,
and the re-opened Northwood HS. The Board considered adding a fifth school in the
consortium. At first, Bethesda-Chevy Chase (B-CC) HS was proposed, but in the end the Board
decided to include Wheaton HS in response to community advocacy. In contrast to Wheaton
HS, which had similar student demographics to other DCC schools, B-CC HS would have
provided better opportunities for achieving greater diversity across the consortium because it
had a student population with higher proportions of White and higher income students.

So the board caved to parental pressure?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t MCPS make a Western Consortium of BCC, Whitman, Woodward and WJ? Some DCC students could be moved to the Western Consortium.

Wasn't B-CC originally part of the DCC until parents complained? It is somewhat ironic that geographically B-CC is the most down county high-school in MCPS.

I’ve seen that rumor here, and it’s repeated in the following link, with a link to a Post article that in no way supports that claim. I’ve lived in the B-CC cluster forever and really think I would have heard about this when it supposedly happened, since that was the year after we bought our house and when we started having kids. I’m starting to think it’s an urban legend like “the residents of Georgetown kept out Metro.”

Whoops, link here: http://www.justupthepike.com/2013/06/northeast-consortium-example-of-school.html?m=1

The Metis report refers to the reason as "community advocacy":

From the outset, the consortium included Montgomery Blair, John F. Kennedy, Albert Einstein,
and the re-opened Northwood HS. The Board considered adding a fifth school in the
consortium. At first, Bethesda-Chevy Chase (B-CC) HS was proposed, but in the end the Board
decided to include Wheaton HS in response to community advocacy. In contrast to Wheaton
HS, which had similar student demographics to other DCC schools, B-CC HS would have
provided better opportunities for achieving greater diversity across the consortium because it
had a student population with higher proportions of White and higher income students.

Segregated schools also had similar demographics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t MCPS make a Western Consortium of BCC, Whitman, Woodward and WJ? Some DCC students could be moved to the Western Consortium.

Wasn't B-CC originally part of the DCC until parents complained? It is somewhat ironic that geographically B-CC is the most down county high-school in MCPS.

I’ve seen that rumor here, and it’s repeated in the following link, with a link to a Post article that in no way supports that claim. I’ve lived in the B-CC cluster forever and really think I would have heard about this when it supposedly happened, since that was the year after we bought our house and when we started having kids. I’m starting to think it’s an urban legend like “the residents of Georgetown kept out Metro.”

Whoops, link here: http://www.justupthepike.com/2013/06/northeast-consortium-example-of-school.html?m=1

The Metis report refers to the reason as "community advocacy":

From the outset, the consortium included Montgomery Blair, John F. Kennedy, Albert Einstein,
and the re-opened Northwood HS. The Board considered adding a fifth school in the
consortium. At first, Bethesda-Chevy Chase (B-CC) HS was proposed, but in the end the Board
decided to include Wheaton HS in response to community advocacy. In contrast to Wheaton
HS, which had similar student demographics to other DCC schools, B-CC HS would have
provided better opportunities for achieving greater diversity across the consortium because it
had a student population with higher proportions of White and higher income students.

So the board caved to parental pressure?

But from what I've read on this thread the school board operates in a hermetically sealed vacuum and is unconcerned with politics, is utterly unswayed by outside political pressure and makes decisions that are 100 percent based on what is the right decision for the county's overall student body?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t MCPS make a Western Consortium of BCC, Whitman, Woodward and WJ? Some DCC students could be moved to the Western Consortium.

Wasn't B-CC originally part of the DCC until parents complained? It is somewhat ironic that geographically B-CC is the most down county high-school in MCPS.

I’ve seen that rumor here, and it’s repeated in the following link, with a link to a Post article that in no way supports that claim. I’ve lived in the B-CC cluster forever and really think I would have heard about this when it supposedly happened, since that was the year after we bought our house and when we started having kids. I’m starting to think it’s an urban legend like “the residents of Georgetown kept out Metro.”

Whoops, link here: http://www.justupthepike.com/2013/06/northeast-consortium-example-of-school.html?m=1

The Metis report refers to the reason as "community advocacy":

From the outset, the consortium included Montgomery Blair, John F. Kennedy, Albert Einstein,
and the re-opened Northwood HS. The Board considered adding a fifth school in the
consortium. At first, Bethesda-Chevy Chase (B-CC) HS was proposed, but in the end the Board
decided to include Wheaton HS in response to community advocacy. In contrast to Wheaton
HS, which had similar student demographics to other DCC schools, B-CC HS would have
provided better opportunities for achieving greater diversity across the consortium because it
had a student population with higher proportions of White and higher income students.

Segregated schools also had similar demographics.

wow - grouping schools together because of their diverse demographics and excluding others that are not sounds illegal

[Anonymous]

The part that people confuse is that the schools are representing a demographic trend. The DCC is rapidly becoming poorer and concentrated minority, Bethesda has always been mostly high SES and white. There was a time that most of MoCo was white a middle class. MoCo isn’t becoming segregated, it is becoming majority minority starting at the cheapest parts and spreading from there.

[Anonymous]

The part that people confuse is that the schools are representing a demographic trend. The DCC is rapidly becoming poorer and concentrated minority, Bethesda has always been mostly high SES and white. There was a time that most of MoCo was white a middle class. MoCo isn’t becoming segregated, it is becoming majority minority starting at the cheapest parts and spreading from there.

This is an important point as the growing Latino population is a new trend that is growing rapidly. Montgomery County can prosper with a growing Latino population but it needs to learn how to actually raise the scores of this growing population not hide their failures by sprinkling high SES white or asian kids around them. It serves no one to pretend a school is good when 40% of the school's population is failing. I get so sick of the UMC DCC parents thinking that if they could just get more white families to move in the scores will go up and everything will be great. The non-white and non-asian kids are still failing which leads to more poverty. Newsflash - while the non-white and non-asian kids may not failing you are really fooling yourself if you think they are doing great academically in this situation. They aren't but parents judge academic talent based on how well the kid is doing in comparison to others. UMC DCC parents get a real boost from having their mediocre kids on top while the minority kids are at the bottom. As the demographics change the scores will just sink lower and real estate will stagnate unless the school system starts actually educating its students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The part that people confuse is that the schools are representing a demographic trend. The DCC is rapidly becoming poorer and concentrated minority, Bethesda has always been mostly high SES and white. There was a time that most of MoCo was white a middle class. MoCo isn’t becoming segregated, it is becoming majority minority starting at the cheapest parts and spreading from there.

This is an important point as the growing Latino population is a new trend that is growing rapidly. Montgomery County can prosper with a growing Latino population but it needs to learn how to actually raise the scores of this growing population not hide their failures by sprinkling high SES white or asian kids around them. It serves no one to pretend a school is good when 40% of the school's population is failing. I get so sick of the UMC DCC parents thinking that if they could just get more white families to move in the scores will go up and everything will be great. The non-white and non-asian kids are still failing which leads to more poverty. Newsflash - while the non-white and non-asian kids may not failing you are really fooling yourself if you think they are doing great academically in this situation. They aren't but parents judge academic talent based on how well the kid is doing in comparison to others. UMC DCC parents get a real boost from having their mediocre kids on top while the minority kids are at the bottom. As the demographics change the scores will just sink lower and real estate will stagnate unless the school system starts actually educating its students.

I get sick reading posts like this.

[Anonymous]

So, I'm I interpreting this right that Wheaton will most likely not have any redistricting to Woodward due to its better than average utilization? Seems like its the closes DCC school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, I'm I interpreting this right that Wheaton will most likely not have any redistricting to Woodward due to its better than average utilization? Seems like its the closes DCC school.

Meant to say "am I interpreting"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, I'm I interpreting this right that Wheaton will most likely not have any redistricting to Woodward due to its better than average utilization? Seems like its the closes DCC school.

Meant to say "am I interpreting"

The county could adjust its boundary to make more sense, as part of a larger puzzle, and possibly shift some kids into Woodward given its proximity. There's less reason to mess with it because it isn't overcrowded, but it's anyone's guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, I'm I interpreting this right that Wheaton will most likely not have any redistricting to Woodward due to its better than average utilization? Seems like its the closes DCC school.

Meant to say "am I interpreting"

Who knows, but I'm guessing it's likely that Viers Mill ES will go to Woodward, due to proximity. Maybe if they take away Viers Mill they will add on another elementary or two to Wheaton from other DCC clusters to keep it well-utilized. Maybe Highland and Harmony Hills, which are both close to Wheaton and would help with capacity at Einstein and Kennedy, respectively.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The part that people confuse is that the schools are representing a demographic trend. The DCC is rapidly becoming poorer and concentrated minority, Bethesda has always been mostly high SES and white. There was a time that most of MoCo was white a middle class. MoCo isn’t becoming segregated, it is becoming majority minority starting at the cheapest parts and spreading from there.

This is an important point as the growing Latino population is a new trend that is growing rapidly. Montgomery County can prosper with a growing Latino population but it needs to learn how to actually raise the scores of this growing population not hide their failures by sprinkling high SES white or asian kids around them. It serves no one to pretend a school is good when 40% of the school's population is failing. I get so sick of the UMC DCC parents thinking that if they could just get more white families to move in the scores will go up and everything will be great. The non-white and non-asian kids are still failing which leads to more poverty. Newsflash - while the non-white and non-asian kids may not failing you are really fooling yourself if you think they are doing great academically in this situation. They aren't but parents judge academic talent based on how well the kid is doing in comparison to others. UMC DCC parents get a real boost from having their mediocre kids on top while the minority kids are at the bottom. As the demographics change the scores will just sink lower and real estate will stagnate unless the school system starts actually educating its students.

I get sick reading posts like this.

The truth makes you sick? I get sick by people who stick their heads in the sand and pretend to see rainbows. So we are even