Sign Petition Asking for Boundaries Now, Programs Later

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Anonymous wrote:Idk it sounds like Blair, Northwood, and Einstein just want more APs at their home schools. Like that’s it. Forget all this busing around and lotterying and programs. More APs than the baseline from what is presently proposed. This does run into the question of demand, and I would agree that if there isn’t demand you shouldn’t offer the course. Idk maybe just stick all the money into dedicated bus service for MC for when the classes don’t have enough demand.

What is the "baseline"? All they are saying is every school should offer calculus. What calculus? Is it AP? If so AB and BC or just BC. And is the baseline all in person or are they going to make some classes virtual?

Baseline that they’ve described is Calc BC. I have only ever heard vague suggestions of doing something virtual. I wouldn’t oppose it for individual classes if that’s the only thing that can happen, but virtual is by no means ideal.

They are not bringing back virtual. They've been clear otherwise, the virtual school families that. Offering multiple post BC classes at some schools and not others is not equity. Why should some schools get multiple advanced math classes, and other schools max out at BC? The lack of stem and not having access to Wheaton and Blair is a huge issue for us. We made the mistake with our first child, but we will not do that again.

MCPS also doesn't allow you to privately pay for virtual or private classes and accept them as credit. There is a way to do it for some AP classes but nothing outside of AP or beyond. Nor do they allow for independent study.

Yes, you, who I’m guessing is at Einstein, want more APs and MVC. No, they cannot all be offered. Yes, some method of offering those classes should occur. I understand you seem unwilling to deal with reality and will repeat that virtual and MC are impossible for you. No, we don’t get to choose how our tax dollars are spent beyond voting.

Virtual is fine. MCPS is not offering it. MC is impossible as if students take 6 classes at HS, the only time is during school, which means a reduced schedule that impacts graduation, and the times don't align or after school, which doesn't work with sports and activities. The best solution is to align the HS schedules and offer these classes virtually. However, MCPS has been clear they are against virtual and they are not bringing it back, so its a non-discussion.

And, one of my kids wants linear algebra, not just MVC. You know, the classes offered at your schools.

WJ doesn't have linear algebra. A friend of my DS wanted it and found a way to make MC work. Another friend wanted it but decided to take Stats to graduate and wait until college for linear algebra. My DS didn't need any higher than BC so WJ was fine but he really wanted to take two advanced electives in another core subject that ended up conflicting in the master schedule so they chose one. That is kind of life in public school.

That’s great one could make it work, but why not offer it to all students. And, saying your child wanted two classes but it conflicted is different. Your school at least has mvc.

I support funding schools to offer the same core of advanced classes. I think whether or not MVC should be in the core is open for debate. In general, I would like to see more focus on building up each school than on choice programming.

Yes MVC and linear algebra are different than the classes DS wanted. But the point is that in public school, and in life in general, we can't always get everything we want when we want it.

You don't support equal access, as you only deem BC necessary, as that was the highest your child needed/was able to take. Minimum should be MVC, as some schools start kids in Algebra in 6th. If you support the same core advanced classes, that should include MVC and Linear Algebra. Just because your kids don't want it (and many don't), some do, and it should be available to all. The choice programming is a waste of time, given there is no extra funding for staff or supplies. That's why the schools chosen for STEM are ones that already have it, vs. creating a new program in a school that doesn't have it.

Getting enough math to graduate isn't about what they want; it's about what they need. And, all students should have the same access to all the classes given its one school district. You are making it sound like its just a few classse, when its not just a few classes, its a huge number of classes that your kids got access to (regardless of if they choose them or not) vs. what we are offered.

This is going to solve itself because they are changing the elementary and middle school pathways and no one is going to be taking Algebra 1 in 6th. Very few kids even do so right now. They should have been prevented from doing so in the first place because they run into issues like this in high school.

+1. This issue is solved by not advancing kids to this level so early unless the parent understands that their child will finish the high school math offerings early and will need to attend MC to continue their math. This is so few kids and yet occupies so many threads.

But I think the people (more likely, person) that post about this are highly prolific posters. This is no where near a problem that is common.

There are a good number in the DCC making it to MVC. Same with the W schools and BCC. You'd know it if your kids were on that track.

Well if they are all making it work then why can’t you?

Because we didn't understand that the school didn't offer it as we were told by the principal, the math track wasn't a problem, but now we hear from other families in that situation, they were told the same thing, and it was not true, and the principal/admin provided no support. Had we had known we were have apply to the magnets or to be lotteried to another school. Now we know and will not be making that mistake with the younger ones. They make it work by understanding the course offerings and choosing to lottery via the DCC to Blair or Wheaton. DCC should tell families this.

But, why do you think its ok your kids get access and not others? Just because your kids are not at that level, which is ok, if they were and wanted it, you'd want them to have access too. We all pay property taxes, so the school should be equal.

This is why there is a divide in the DCC, and we don't want our kids to go to your school, because of culture.

Ohhhh, I get it now! Most or all of these aggressive, oppositional us vs them pro-DCC posts are by the same annoying poster who constantly posts about the lack of MVC Einstein. Please stop, MVC Einstein parent. You give the rest of us in the DCC a bad name.

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Truly pathological MVC lady

Maybe if you worked with your kids more vs. being a bully here, they could have tested into take more advanced math classes so you could stop the jealousy.

Oh honey, I’d be willing to bet my kid’s math MAP scores are higher than your daughter’s, along with probably 500-1000 other kids across MCPS in the grade. And I didn’t need to work with the kid at all, not prepped or supplemented. But we knew not to over accelerate in 6th coming out of the pandemic because our kid would run out of math options in high school.

Serious question though. Is she the only one in this situation? If there’s 5 kids at her school, why can’t she get a ride with one of the other 4 to MC? And if she’s the only one, why don’t you do a COSA to Wheaton or Blair since you’re planning to pull her out anyway?

No no no do not engage! She loves this! Everyone has asked her these questions and she has answered 1000 times!!

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Anonymous wrote:Idk it sounds like Blair, Northwood, and Einstein just want more APs at their home schools. Like that’s it. Forget all this busing around and lotterying and programs. More APs than the baseline from what is presently proposed. This does run into the question of demand, and I would agree that if there isn’t demand you shouldn’t offer the course. Idk maybe just stick all the money into dedicated bus service for MC for when the classes don’t have enough demand.

What is the "baseline"? All they are saying is every school should offer calculus. What calculus? Is it AP? If so AB and BC or just BC. And is the baseline all in person or are they going to make some classes virtual?

Baseline that they’ve described is Calc BC. I have only ever heard vague suggestions of doing something virtual. I wouldn’t oppose it for individual classes if that’s the only thing that can happen, but virtual is by no means ideal.

They are not bringing back virtual. They've been clear otherwise, the virtual school families that. Offering multiple post BC classes at some schools and not others is not equity. Why should some schools get multiple advanced math classes, and other schools max out at BC? The lack of stem and not having access to Wheaton and Blair is a huge issue for us. We made the mistake with our first child, but we will not do that again.

MCPS also doesn't allow you to privately pay for virtual or private classes and accept them as credit. There is a way to do it for some AP classes but nothing outside of AP or beyond. Nor do they allow for independent study.

Yes, you, who I’m guessing is at Einstein, want more APs and MVC. No, they cannot all be offered. Yes, some method of offering those classes should occur. I understand you seem unwilling to deal with reality and will repeat that virtual and MC are impossible for you. No, we don’t get to choose how our tax dollars are spent beyond voting.

Virtual is fine. MCPS is not offering it. MC is impossible as if students take 6 classes at HS, the only time is during school, which means a reduced schedule that impacts graduation, and the times don't align or after school, which doesn't work with sports and activities. The best solution is to align the HS schedules and offer these classes virtually. However, MCPS has been clear they are against virtual and they are not bringing it back, so its a non-discussion.

And, one of my kids wants linear algebra, not just MVC. You know, the classes offered at your schools.

WJ doesn't have linear algebra. A friend of my DS wanted it and found a way to make MC work. Another friend wanted it but decided to take Stats to graduate and wait until college for linear algebra. My DS didn't need any higher than BC so WJ was fine but he really wanted to take two advanced electives in another core subject that ended up conflicting in the master schedule so they chose one. That is kind of life in public school.

That’s great one could make it work, but why not offer it to all students. And, saying your child wanted two classes but it conflicted is different. Your school at least has mvc.

I support funding schools to offer the same core of advanced classes. I think whether or not MVC should be in the core is open for debate. In general, I would like to see more focus on building up each school than on choice programming.

Yes MVC and linear algebra are different than the classes DS wanted. But the point is that in public school, and in life in general, we can't always get everything we want when we want it.

You don't support equal access, as you only deem BC necessary, as that was the highest your child needed/was able to take. Minimum should be MVC, as some schools start kids in Algebra in 6th. If you support the same core advanced classes, that should include MVC and Linear Algebra. Just because your kids don't want it (and many don't), some do, and it should be available to all. The choice programming is a waste of time, given there is no extra funding for staff or supplies. That's why the schools chosen for STEM are ones that already have it, vs. creating a new program in a school that doesn't have it.

Getting enough math to graduate isn't about what they want; it's about what they need. And, all students should have the same access to all the classes given its one school district. You are making it sound like its just a few classse, when its not just a few classes, its a huge number of classes that your kids got access to (regardless of if they choose them or not) vs. what we are offered.

This is going to solve itself because they are changing the elementary and middle school pathways and no one is going to be taking Algebra 1 in 6th. Very few kids even do so right now. They should have been prevented from doing so in the first place because they run into issues like this in high school.

+1. This issue is solved by not advancing kids to this level so early unless the parent understands that their child will finish the high school math offerings early and will need to attend MC to continue their math. This is so few kids and yet occupies so many threads.

But I think the people (more likely, person) that post about this are highly prolific posters. This is no where near a problem that is common.

There are a good number in the DCC making it to MVC. Same with the W schools and BCC. You'd know it if your kids were on that track.

Well if they are all making it work then why can’t you?

Because we didn't understand that the school didn't offer it as we were told by the principal, the math track wasn't a problem, but now we hear from other families in that situation, they were told the same thing, and it was not true, and the principal/admin provided no support. Had we had known we were have apply to the magnets or to be lotteried to another school. Now we know and will not be making that mistake with the younger ones. They make it work by understanding the course offerings and choosing to lottery via the DCC to Blair or Wheaton. DCC should tell families this.

But, why do you think its ok your kids get access and not others? Just because your kids are not at that level, which is ok, if they were and wanted it, you'd want them to have access too. We all pay property taxes, so the school should be equal.

This is why there is a divide in the DCC, and we don't want our kids to go to your school, because of culture.

Ohhhh, I get it now! Most or all of these aggressive, oppositional us vs them pro-DCC posts are by the same annoying poster who constantly posts about the lack of MVC Einstein. Please stop, MVC Einstein parent. You give the rest of us in the DCC a bad name.

💯

Truly pathological MVC lady

Maybe if you worked with your kids more vs. being a bully here, they could have tested into take more advanced math classes so you could stop the jealousy.

Oh honey, I’d be willing to bet my kid’s math MAP scores are higher than your daughter’s, along with probably 500-1000 other kids across MCPS in the grade. And I didn’t need to work with the kid at all, not prepped or supplemented. But we knew not to over accelerate in 6th coming out of the pandemic because our kid would run out of math options in high school.

Serious question though. Is she the only one in this situation? If there’s 5 kids at her school, why can’t she get a ride with one of the other 4 to MC? And if she’s the only one, why don’t you do a COSA to Wheaton or Blair since you’re planning to pull her out anyway?

They don’t do map scores in hs and MC doesn’t work due to timing and distance. Pulling out the younger ones. Cosa are impossible to get.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing that probably would have helped a lot would have been to make the DCC a region and let it keep its programs. Just be straight with folks that they are limiting the capacity of the programs and reducing transportation. Of course people would be upset about that but that would be less disruptive and have fewer equity concerns. People would be able to know they can access established programs instead of taking stuff away and starting things from scratch.

But if the program is resulting in segregation…should MCPS continue it?

I mean I think they should scrap all the programs and just improve the home schools. But if they are doing this regional model, it would be less disruptive to make the current DCC one of the regions.

Again, you keep saying this, but they aren't going to improve the home schools. With less student with the boundary changes, not only are they not going to improve but they are going to have to reduce course offerings as each school has less funding and will lose staff.

Smaller schools have been shown to help low income kids. It might reduce the high performing cohort, to be sure, so I would love for MCPS to stop siphoning off the STEM and other high performing kids from Einstein. But I think 1500-1600 kids is a fine size for a high school.

Cute that smaller public schools (askpposed to smaller class sizes) help low-income kids?

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Anonymous wrote:One thing that probably would have helped a lot would have been to make the DCC a region and let it keep its programs. Just be straight with folks that they are limiting the capacity of the programs and reducing transportation. Of course people would be upset about that but that would be less disruptive and have fewer equity concerns. People would be able to know they can access established programs instead of taking stuff away and starting things from scratch.

But if the program is resulting in segregation…should MCPS continue it?

I mean I think they should scrap all the programs and just improve the home schools. But if they are doing this regional model, it would be less disruptive to make the current DCC one of the regions.

Again, you keep saying this, but they aren't going to improve the home schools. With less student with the boundary changes, not only are they not going to improve but they are going to have to reduce course offerings as each school has less funding and will lose staff.

Smaller schools have been shown to help low income kids. It might reduce the high performing cohort, to be sure, so I would love for MCPS to stop siphoning off the STEM and other high performing kids from Einstein. But I think 1500-1600 kids is a fine size for a high school.

It’s not just Einstein, it’s also Northwood, Kennedy, Paint Branch, Blake,Watkins Mill, and others. There are many schools outside the W and BCC bubble. Stem and high performing kids have no other choice but to leave. What do you think will happen when a reduction of 400-600 students happens? There will be cuts to courses. So, regardless of income, kids will leave without the course offerings and it happens now where families move. These schools barely have any course offerings as it is. The high performing kids for arts and sports for it outside of school as it’s not at a high level either. Which then makes it impossible to go to MC.

Smaller schools would be great but you have to look at the cost benefit and the cost to the students losing staff and courses is significant. This will also happen at the W schools. What will be cut when they lose staff?

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Anonymous wrote:One thing that probably would have helped a lot would have been to make the DCC a region and let it keep its programs. Just be straight with folks that they are limiting the capacity of the programs and reducing transportation. Of course people would be upset about that but that would be less disruptive and have fewer equity concerns. People would be able to know they can access established programs instead of taking stuff away and starting things from scratch.

But if the program is resulting in segregation…should MCPS continue it?

I mean I think they should scrap all the programs and just improve the home schools. But if they are doing this regional model, it would be less disruptive to make the current DCC one of the regions.

Again, you keep saying this, but they aren't going to improve the home schools. With less student with the boundary changes, not only are they not going to improve but they are going to have to reduce course offerings as each school has less funding and will lose staff.

Smaller schools have been shown to help low income kids. It might reduce the high performing cohort, to be sure, so I would love for MCPS to stop siphoning off the STEM and other high performing kids from Einstein. But I think 1500-1600 kids is a fine size for a high school.

Cute that smaller public schools (askpposed to smaller class sizes) help low-income kids?

The students will not get more attention and support, but some may get a desk or a real classroom. Staffing will be cut at all schools including the w schools which means they will lose courses too. But the mom here can just drive all the kids at their school back and forth to MC so no big deal.

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Anonymous wrote:Idk it sounds like Blair, Northwood, and Einstein just want more APs at their home schools. Like that’s it. Forget all this busing around and lotterying and programs. More APs than the baseline from what is presently proposed. This does run into the question of demand, and I would agree that if there isn’t demand you shouldn’t offer the course. Idk maybe just stick all the money into dedicated bus service for MC for when the classes don’t have enough demand.

What is the "baseline"? All they are saying is every school should offer calculus. What calculus? Is it AP? If so AB and BC or just BC. And is the baseline all in person or are they going to make some classes virtual?

Baseline that they’ve described is Calc BC. I have only ever heard vague suggestions of doing something virtual. I wouldn’t oppose it for individual classes if that’s the only thing that can happen, but virtual is by no means ideal.

They are not bringing back virtual. They've been clear otherwise, the virtual school families that. Offering multiple post BC classes at some schools and not others is not equity. Why should some schools get multiple advanced math classes, and other schools max out at BC? The lack of stem and not having access to Wheaton and Blair is a huge issue for us. We made the mistake with our first child, but we will not do that again.

MCPS also doesn't allow you to privately pay for virtual or private classes and accept them as credit. There is a way to do it for some AP classes but nothing outside of AP or beyond. Nor do they allow for independent study.

Yes, you, who I’m guessing is at Einstein, want more APs and MVC. No, they cannot all be offered. Yes, some method of offering those classes should occur. I understand you seem unwilling to deal with reality and will repeat that virtual and MC are impossible for you. No, we don’t get to choose how our tax dollars are spent beyond voting.

Virtual is fine. MCPS is not offering it. MC is impossible as if students take 6 classes at HS, the only time is during school, which means a reduced schedule that impacts graduation, and the times don't align or after school, which doesn't work with sports and activities. The best solution is to align the HS schedules and offer these classes virtually. However, MCPS has been clear they are against virtual and they are not bringing it back, so its a non-discussion.

And, one of my kids wants linear algebra, not just MVC. You know, the classes offered at your schools.

WJ doesn't have linear algebra. A friend of my DS wanted it and found a way to make MC work. Another friend wanted it but decided to take Stats to graduate and wait until college for linear algebra. My DS didn't need any higher than BC so WJ was fine but he really wanted to take two advanced electives in another core subject that ended up conflicting in the master schedule so they chose one. That is kind of life in public school.

That’s great one could make it work, but why not offer it to all students. And, saying your child wanted two classes but it conflicted is different. Your school at least has mvc.

I support funding schools to offer the same core of advanced classes. I think whether or not MVC should be in the core is open for debate. In general, I would like to see more focus on building up each school than on choice programming.

Yes MVC and linear algebra are different than the classes DS wanted. But the point is that in public school, and in life in general, we can't always get everything we want when we want it.

You don't support equal access, as you only deem BC necessary, as that was the highest your child needed/was able to take. Minimum should be MVC, as some schools start kids in Algebra in 6th. If you support the same core advanced classes, that should include MVC and Linear Algebra. Just because your kids don't want it (and many don't), some do, and it should be available to all. The choice programming is a waste of time, given there is no extra funding for staff or supplies. That's why the schools chosen for STEM are ones that already have it, vs. creating a new program in a school that doesn't have it.

Getting enough math to graduate isn't about what they want; it's about what they need. And, all students should have the same access to all the classes given its one school district. You are making it sound like its just a few classse, when its not just a few classes, its a huge number of classes that your kids got access to (regardless of if they choose them or not) vs. what we are offered.

This is going to solve itself because they are changing the elementary and middle school pathways and no one is going to be taking Algebra 1 in 6th. Very few kids even do so right now. They should have been prevented from doing so in the first place because they run into issues like this in high school.

+1. This issue is solved by not advancing kids to this level so early unless the parent understands that their child will finish the high school math offerings early and will need to attend MC to continue their math. This is so few kids and yet occupies so many threads.

But I think the people (more likely, person) that post about this are highly prolific posters. This is no where near a problem that is common.

There are a good number in the DCC making it to MVC. Same with the W schools and BCC. You'd know it if your kids were on that track.

Well if they are all making it work then why can’t you?

Because we didn't understand that the school didn't offer it as we were told by the principal, the math track wasn't a problem, but now we hear from other families in that situation, they were told the same thing, and it was not true, and the principal/admin provided no support. Had we had known we were have apply to the magnets or to be lotteried to another school. Now we know and will not be making that mistake with the younger ones. They make it work by understanding the course offerings and choosing to lottery via the DCC to Blair or Wheaton. DCC should tell families this.

But, why do you think its ok your kids get access and not others? Just because your kids are not at that level, which is ok, if they were and wanted it, you'd want them to have access too. We all pay property taxes, so the school should be equal.

This is why there is a divide in the DCC, and we don't want our kids to go to your school, because of culture.

Ohhhh, I get it now! Most or all of these aggressive, oppositional us vs them pro-DCC posts are by the same annoying poster who constantly posts about the lack of MVC Einstein. Please stop, MVC Einstein parent. You give the rest of us in the DCC a bad name.

💯

Truly pathological MVC lady

Maybe if you worked with your kids more vs. being a bully here, they could have tested into take more advanced math classes so you could stop the jealousy.

Oh honey, I’d be willing to bet my kid’s math MAP scores are higher than your daughter’s, along with probably 500-1000 other kids across MCPS in the grade. And I didn’t need to work with the kid at all, not prepped or supplemented. But we knew not to over accelerate in 6th coming out of the pandemic because our kid would run out of math options in high school.

Serious question though. Is she the only one in this situation? If there’s 5 kids at her school, why can’t she get a ride with one of the other 4 to MC? And if she’s the only one, why don’t you do a COSA to Wheaton or Blair since you’re planning to pull her out anyway?

No no no do not engage! She loves this! Everyone has asked her these questions and she has answered 1000 times!!

Your school will be losing courses too. Reduction in students means a reduction in staffing which means courses will be cut. Are you prepared to drive your kids to MC daily?

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Anonymous wrote:One thing that probably would have helped a lot would have been to make the DCC a region and let it keep its programs. Just be straight with folks that they are limiting the capacity of the programs and reducing transportation. Of course people would be upset about that but that would be less disruptive and have fewer equity concerns. People would be able to know they can access established programs instead of taking stuff away and starting things from scratch.

But if the program is resulting in segregation…should MCPS continue it?

I mean I think they should scrap all the programs and just improve the home schools. But if they are doing this regional model, it would be less disruptive to make the current DCC one of the regions.

Again, you keep saying this, but they aren't going to improve the home schools. With less student with the boundary changes, not only are they not going to improve but they are going to have to reduce course offerings as each school has less funding and will lose staff.

Smaller schools have been shown to help low income kids. It might reduce the high performing cohort, to be sure, so I would love for MCPS to stop siphoning off the STEM and other high performing kids from Einstein. But I think 1500-1600 kids is a fine size for a high school.

Cute that smaller public schools (askpposed to smaller class sizes) help low-income kids?

Sorry for my typos! I meant to ask for the cite that smaller public schools (as opposed to smaller class sizes) are better for low-income students.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing that probably would have helped a lot would have been to make the DCC a region and let it keep its programs. Just be straight with folks that they are limiting the capacity of the programs and reducing transportation. Of course people would be upset about that but that would be less disruptive and have fewer equity concerns. People would be able to know they can access established programs instead of taking stuff away and starting things from scratch.

But if the program is resulting in segregation…should MCPS continue it?

I mean I think they should scrap all the programs and just improve the home schools. But if they are doing this regional model, it would be less disruptive to make the current DCC one of the regions.

Again, you keep saying this, but they aren't going to improve the home schools. With less student with the boundary changes, not only are they not going to improve but they are going to have to reduce course offerings as each school has less funding and will lose staff.

Smaller schools have been shown to help low income kids. It might reduce the high performing cohort, to be sure, so I would love for MCPS to stop siphoning off the STEM and other high performing kids from Einstein. But I think 1500-1600 kids is a fine size for a high school.

Cute that smaller public schools (askpposed to smaller class sizes) help low-income kids?

Sorry for my typos! I meant to ask for the cite that smaller public schools (as opposed to smaller class sizes) are better for low-income students.

Here, I googled it for you: https://www.deepdyve.com/lp/sage/a-review-of-empirical-evidence-about-school-size-effects-a-policy-6oPud7f9aA

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I am an MCPS teacher and want to highlight here that MCEA just put out a press release opposing MCPS Region Model.

MCEA is concerned that the region model is proceeding too quickly and is not informed by sufficient stakeholder input. More information here: https://montgomeryperspective.com/2025/11/06/mcea-opposes-mcps-region-model/

For those still on the fence about signing the petition to MCPS requesting that they delay the regional program model rollout, and instead focus on the boundaries please consider signing the petition in support of your teachers.

The petition mentions DCC, but the primary ask (pause regional rollout) is important for our entire county.

https://form.jotform.com/onestepatatime/fairboundaries

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Anonymous wrote:I am an MCPS teacher and want to highlight here that MCEA just put out a press release opposing MCPS Region Model.

MCEA is concerned that the region model is proceeding too quickly and is not informed by sufficient stakeholder input. More information here: https://montgomeryperspective.com/2025/11/06/mcea-opposes-mcps-region-model/

For those still on the fence about signing the petition to MCPS requesting that they delay the regional program model rollout, and instead focus on the boundaries please consider signing the petition in support of your teachers.

The petition mentions DCC, but the primary ask (pause regional rollout) is important for our entire county.

https://form.jotform.com/onestepatatime/fairboundaries

The dcc petition is not written in a way that everyone will support it.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing that probably would have helped a lot would have been to make the DCC a region and let it keep its programs. Just be straight with folks that they are limiting the capacity of the programs and reducing transportation. Of course people would be upset about that but that would be less disruptive and have fewer equity concerns. People would be able to know they can access established programs instead of taking stuff away and starting things from scratch.

But if the program is resulting in segregation…should MCPS continue it?

I mean I think they should scrap all the programs and just improve the home schools. But if they are doing this regional model, it would be less disruptive to make the current DCC one of the regions.

Again, you keep saying this, but they aren't going to improve the home schools. With less student with the boundary changes, not only are they not going to improve but they are going to have to reduce course offerings as each school has less funding and will lose staff.

Smaller schools have been shown to help low income kids. It might reduce the high performing cohort, to be sure, so I would love for MCPS to stop siphoning off the STEM and other high performing kids from Einstein. But I think 1500-1600 kids is a fine size for a high school.

Cute that smaller public schools (askpposed to smaller class sizes) help low-income kids?

Sorry for my typos! I meant to ask for the cite that smaller public schools (as opposed to smaller class sizes) are better for low-income students.

Are they, because they lose resources. And what about the low income smarter students? Not all low income students struggle with academics and what about the other students at the school? And kids aren’t low income. Most kids don’t have income or aren’t high earners. Judging kids based off parent income speaks volumes of you. These schools have a huge mix of kids and with the smaller schools things will be cut.

Are you the poster who left years ago and is bitter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an MCPS teacher and want to highlight here that MCEA just put out a press release opposing MCPS Region Model.

MCEA is concerned that the region model is proceeding too quickly and is not informed by sufficient stakeholder input. More information here: https://montgomeryperspective.com/2025/11/06/mcea-opposes-mcps-region-model/

For those still on the fence about signing the petition to MCPS requesting that they delay the regional program model rollout, and instead focus on the boundaries please consider signing the petition in support of your teachers.

The petition mentions DCC, but the primary ask (pause regional rollout) is important for our entire county.

https://form.jotform.com/onestepatatime/fairboundaries

The dcc petition is not written in a way that everyone will support it.

Which quotes from the petition do you find off-putting? If you can't give us specific quotes I think we can assume you just have a beef with the DCC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an MCPS teacher and want to highlight here that MCEA just put out a press release opposing MCPS Region Model.

MCEA is concerned that the region model is proceeding too quickly and is not informed by sufficient stakeholder input. More information here: https://montgomeryperspective.com/2025/11/06/mcea-opposes-mcps-region-model/

For those still on the fence about signing the petition to MCPS requesting that they delay the regional program model rollout, and instead focus on the boundaries please consider signing the petition in support of your teachers.

The petition mentions DCC, but the primary ask (pause regional rollout) is important for our entire county.

https://form.jotform.com/onestepatatime/fairboundaries

The dcc petition is not written in a way that everyone will support it.

Which quotes from the petition do you find off-putting? If you can't give us specific quotes I think we can assume you just have a beef with the DCC.

You could read this thread to find your answers. It’s been discussed.

No one actually has “beef” with the DCC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an MCPS teacher and want to highlight here that MCEA just put out a press release opposing MCPS Region Model.

MCEA is concerned that the region model is proceeding too quickly and is not informed by sufficient stakeholder input. More information here: https://montgomeryperspective.com/2025/11/06/mcea-opposes-mcps-region-model/

For those still on the fence about signing the petition to MCPS requesting that they delay the regional program model rollout, and instead focus on the boundaries please consider signing the petition in support of your teachers.

The petition mentions DCC, but the primary ask (pause regional rollout) is important for our entire county.

https://form.jotform.com/onestepatatime/fairboundaries

The dcc petition is not written in a way that everyone will support it.

Which quotes from the petition do you find off-putting? If you can't give us specific quotes I think we can assume you just have a beef with the DCC.

You could read this thread to find your answers. It’s been discussed.

No one actually has “beef” with the DCC.

I saw zero direct quotes. Mostly people seem to just hate seeing the term "DCC" so the fact it is mentioned in the petition I guess makes it a no-go for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an MCPS teacher and want to highlight here that MCEA just put out a press release opposing MCPS Region Model.

MCEA is concerned that the region model is proceeding too quickly and is not informed by sufficient stakeholder input. More information here: https://montgomeryperspective.com/2025/11/06/mcea-opposes-mcps-region-model/

For those still on the fence about signing the petition to MCPS requesting that they delay the regional program model rollout, and instead focus on the boundaries please consider signing the petition in support of your teachers.

The petition mentions DCC, but the primary ask (pause regional rollout) is important for our entire county.

https://form.jotform.com/onestepatatime/fairboundaries

The dcc petition is not written in a way that everyone will support it.

Which quotes from the petition do you find off-putting? If you can't give us specific quotes I think we can assume you just have a beef with the DCC.

No, we are apart of the DCC. Why do you assume someone is against the DCC if they don't sign it? I don't agree with all the parts and its been discussed here so I'm not signing it. I support the DCC continuing and strengthened vs. the regional model.