Anonymous wrote:We’re 20 pages into this. For the love of God, will someone explain to me why the following words that Jimmy Kimmel uttered got him fired? He did not disparage Charlie Kirk or “celebrate” his death. His broader point is that the Trump administration and MAGA are using Kirk’s killing to score political points. That is a widely held belief on the left and has been voiced by many others in TV, social media, etc. Why force him to apologize to the Kirk family and to make a donation to Turning Point when Kimmel didnt say anything bad about Kirk himself?
Kimmel said, “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it.” He suggested the suspect, Tyler Robinson, was aligned with the MAGA movement and criticized Trump supporters for denying this to exploit the tragedy politically. Kimmel also mocked JD Vance’s claims blaming the left and called Trump’s emotional response insincere.
He lied. Again. Wasn’t the first time
DP. What was the lie? That Kirk was killed by a MAGA? The shooter was raised by a MAGA family in a deeply conservative community and state. His personal views, particularly on sexuality and LGBTQ issues, may have changed over the years, but he did come from a MAGA home.
Kimmel also didn't say that the kid was MAGA. He said MAGA was using this episode to consolidate power. And MAGA is using this episode to consolidate power.
Kimmel's comment.
“The MAGA Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said.
Yes, he was strongly implying that Robinson is MAGA, which is beyond ridiculous. - although not worthy of being canceled, just stupid.
Another perspective on the network's decision to bow to the Trump administration--it's purely a business decision. They are pleasing the administration in order to extract favorable concessions from it at a later date.
Anonymous wrote:We’re 20 pages into this. For the love of God, will someone explain to me why the following words that Jimmy Kimmel uttered got him fired? He did not disparage Charlie Kirk or “celebrate” his death. His broader point is that the Trump administration and MAGA are using Kirk’s killing to score political points. That is a widely held belief on the left and has been voiced by many others in TV, social media, etc. Why force him to apologize to the Kirk family and to make a donation to Turning Point when Kimmel didnt say anything bad about Kirk himself?
Kimmel said, “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it.” He suggested the suspect, Tyler Robinson, was aligned with the MAGA movement and criticized Trump supporters for denying this to exploit the tragedy politically. Kimmel also mocked JD Vance’s claims blaming the left and called Trump’s emotional response insincere.
He lied. Again. Wasn’t the first time
DP. What was the lie? That Kirk was killed by a MAGA? The shooter was raised by a MAGA family in a deeply conservative community and state. His personal views, particularly on sexuality and LGBTQ issues, may have changed over the years, but he did come from a MAGA home.
Kimmel also didn't say that the kid was MAGA. He said MAGA was using this episode to consolidate power. And MAGA is using this episode to consolidate power.
He never said the guy was MAGA. He implied he could be.
Please. His statement does say he's maga.
He says he’s one of them. He is.
He’s a white, male, gun, lover, conservative, raised by maga.
But he left his home and was living with a trans woman and was rejecting his parents political beliefs. He stated in text messages sent to his romantic partner that his dad had become more right since Trump was elected and he didn’t agree with his dad. Lots of people here have the same complaints about their parents, people who are democrats and liberals.
Are the dcumers who have republican parents but reject their parents political beliefs MAGA? They are probably white, too.
Lots of gay MAGA in leadership positions. Nick Fuentes is reportedly gay. Lindsey Graham is gay. The shooter is maga. End of story.
Look this narrative change will not change your hunting down and killing all the leftists. You and your kind are going to do that anyway. Anyone who want universal healthcare, pre-k programs or criticize Israel.
None of the evidence presented shows him as a conservative or maga.
Not sure if you count this as "evidence" but his grandmother said:
The grandmother of Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old who allegedly shot Charlie Kirk, spoke out for the first time Friday, claiming there’s no way her quiet and reserved grandson killed the conservative activist.
Speaking to the Daily Mail, Debbie Robinson, 69, claimed she “never” heard Tyler Robinson discussing politics despite his father’s support for President Donald Trump, whom Tyler Robinson dressed as for Halloween in 2017.
“My son, his dad, is a Republican for Trump,” Debbie Robinson told the outlet. “Most of my family members are Republican. I don't know any single one who’s a Democrat. I'm just so confused.”
Grandma is in denial.
She may be in denial about her grandson but she factually states that most of her family members are Republican, that the shooter's father supports Trump, and that the shooter dressed like Trump for Halloween in 2017 (I've seen a photo). It's highly unlikely that the shooter did a 180 degree turn on every conservative issue after marinating in conservatism most of his life. There are, after all, conservatives gays and yes, even conservative trans people (Kaitlyn Jenner comes to mind).
His family’s political leanings are irrelevant. Plenty of people that aren’t maga have maga parents. She states she never heard him talk about politics- so how is her opinion relevant? Because she says his dad is maga? That isn’t evidence of anything. A Halloween costume from 2017 when he was 15, has nothing to do with personal politics (then, and especially now). Plenty of people wore them, most mockingly or as a joke and had nothing to do with maga. I remember lots of kids from school wearing Ross Perot masks back in the day- and it wasn’t because they idolized Ross Perot. His own parents talked politics with him regularly, including about Kirk, and said he had turned left.
Anonymous wrote:We’re 20 pages into this. For the love of God, will someone explain to me why the following words that Jimmy Kimmel uttered got him fired? He did not disparage Charlie Kirk or “celebrate” his death. His broader point is that the Trump administration and MAGA are using Kirk’s killing to score political points. That is a widely held belief on the left and has been voiced by many others in TV, social media, etc. Why force him to apologize to the Kirk family and to make a donation to Turning Point when Kimmel didnt say anything bad about Kirk himself?
Kimmel said, “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it.” He suggested the suspect, Tyler Robinson, was aligned with the MAGA movement and criticized Trump supporters for denying this to exploit the tragedy politically. Kimmel also mocked JD Vance’s claims blaming the left and called Trump’s emotional response insincere.
He lied. Again. Wasn’t the first time
DP. What was the lie? That Kirk was killed by a MAGA? The shooter was raised by a MAGA family in a deeply conservative community and state. His personal views, particularly on sexuality and LGBTQ issues, may have changed over the years, but he did come from a MAGA home.
Kimmel also didn't say that the kid was MAGA. He said MAGA was using this episode to consolidate power. And MAGA is using this episode to consolidate power.
He never said the guy was MAGA. He implied he could be.
Please. His statement does say he's maga.
He says he’s one of them. He is.
He’s a white, male, gun, lover, conservative, raised by maga.
But he left his home and was living with a trans woman and was rejecting his parents political beliefs. He stated in text messages sent to his romantic partner that his dad had become more right since Trump was elected and he didn’t agree with his dad. Lots of people here have the same complaints about their parents, people who are democrats and liberals.
Are the dcumers who have republican parents but reject their parents political beliefs MAGA? They are probably white, too.
Lots of gay MAGA in leadership positions. Nick Fuentes is reportedly gay. Lindsey Graham is gay. The shooter is maga. End of story.
Look this narrative change will not change your hunting down and killing all the leftists. You and your kind are going to do that anyway. Anyone who want universal healthcare, pre-k programs or criticize Israel.
None of the evidence presented shows him as a conservative or maga.
Not sure if you count this as "evidence" but his grandmother said:
The grandmother of Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old who allegedly shot Charlie Kirk, spoke out for the first time Friday, claiming there’s no way her quiet and reserved grandson killed the conservative activist.
Speaking to the Daily Mail, Debbie Robinson, 69, claimed she “never” heard Tyler Robinson discussing politics despite his father’s support for President Donald Trump, whom Tyler Robinson dressed as for Halloween in 2017.
“My son, his dad, is a Republican for Trump,” Debbie Robinson told the outlet. “Most of my family members are Republican. I don't know any single one who’s a Democrat. I'm just so confused.”
Where is the proof that the boyfriend was "trans"? Other than the governor of Utah saying so? The only one who knows if someone is trans or not is the trans person themselves since it is an identity that they claim for themselves. Only they know how they feel inside.
He told the FBI he was. Do you think the FBI just guessed and put it on there?
Anonymous wrote:I wake up and go to bed sad and with a heavy heart nearly every day now. Just when I think I see a glimmer of hope, it fades. I can't believe this is our reality.
Same. I was up all night after seeing this news and understanding how dire it is. And watching the UK host Trump like some kind of king, while tech CEO's accompany him to Windsor is just the icing on the fascist cake.
Anonymous wrote:We’re 20 pages into this. For the love of God, will someone explain to me why the following words that Jimmy Kimmel uttered got him fired? He did not disparage Charlie Kirk or “celebrate” his death. His broader point is that the Trump administration and MAGA are using Kirk’s killing to score political points. That is a widely held belief on the left and has been voiced by many others in TV, social media, etc. Why force him to apologize to the Kirk family and to make a donation to Turning Point when Kimmel didnt say anything bad about Kirk himself?
Kimmel said, “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it.” He suggested the suspect, Tyler Robinson, was aligned with the MAGA movement and criticized Trump supporters for denying this to exploit the tragedy politically. Kimmel also mocked JD Vance’s claims blaming the left and called Trump’s emotional response insincere.
He lied. Again. Wasn’t the first time
DP. What was the lie? That Kirk was killed by a MAGA? The shooter was raised by a MAGA family in a deeply conservative community and state. His personal views, particularly on sexuality and LGBTQ issues, may have changed over the years, but he did come from a MAGA home.
Kimmel also didn't say that the kid was MAGA. He said MAGA was using this episode to consolidate power. And MAGA is using this episode to consolidate power.
He never said the guy was MAGA. He implied he could be.
Please. His statement does say he's maga.
He says he’s one of them. He is.
He’s a white, male, gun, lover, conservative, raised by maga.
But he left his home and was living with a trans woman and was rejecting his parents political beliefs. He stated in text messages sent to his romantic partner that his dad had become more right since Trump was elected and he didn’t agree with his dad. Lots of people here have the same complaints about their parents, people who are democrats and liberals.
Are the dcumers who have republican parents but reject their parents political beliefs MAGA? They are probably white, too.
Lots of gay MAGA in leadership positions. Nick Fuentes is reportedly gay. Lindsey Graham is gay. The shooter is maga. End of story.
Look this narrative change will not change your hunting down and killing all the leftists. You and your kind are going to do that anyway. Anyone who want universal healthcare, pre-k programs or criticize Israel.
None of the evidence presented shows him as a conservative or maga.
Not sure if you count this as "evidence" but his grandmother said:
The grandmother of Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old who allegedly shot Charlie Kirk, spoke out for the first time Friday, claiming there’s no way her quiet and reserved grandson killed the conservative activist.
Speaking to the Daily Mail, Debbie Robinson, 69, claimed she “never” heard Tyler Robinson discussing politics despite his father’s support for President Donald Trump, whom Tyler Robinson dressed as for Halloween in 2017.
“My son, his dad, is a Republican for Trump,” Debbie Robinson told the outlet. “Most of my family members are Republican. I don't know any single one who’s a Democrat. I'm just so confused.”
Where is the proof that the boyfriend was "trans"? Other than the governor of Utah saying so? The only one who knows if someone is trans or not is the trans person themselves since it is an identity that they claim for themselves. Only they know how they feel inside.
He told the FBI he was. Do you think the FBI just guessed and put it on there?
Who is the head of the FBI? The FBI assaulted and arrested a sitting US senator because he dared ask a question at a press conference.
Anonymous wrote:We’re 20 pages into this. For the love of God, will someone explain to me why the following words that Jimmy Kimmel uttered got him fired? He did not disparage Charlie Kirk or “celebrate” his death. His broader point is that the Trump administration and MAGA are using Kirk’s killing to score political points. That is a widely held belief on the left and has been voiced by many others in TV, social media, etc. Why force him to apologize to the Kirk family and to make a donation to Turning Point when Kimmel didnt say anything bad about Kirk himself?
Kimmel said, “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it.” He suggested the suspect, Tyler Robinson, was aligned with the MAGA movement and criticized Trump supporters for denying this to exploit the tragedy politically. Kimmel also mocked JD Vance’s claims blaming the left and called Trump’s emotional response insincere.
He lied. Again. Wasn’t the first time
DP. What was the lie? That Kirk was killed by a MAGA? The shooter was raised by a MAGA family in a deeply conservative community and state. His personal views, particularly on sexuality and LGBTQ issues, may have changed over the years, but he did come from a MAGA home.
Kimmel also didn't say that the kid was MAGA. He said MAGA was using this episode to consolidate power. And MAGA is using this episode to consolidate power.
Kimmel's comment.
“The MAGA Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said.
Yes, he was strongly implying that Robinson is MAGA, which is beyond ridiculous. - although not worthy of being canceled, just stupid.
I’m sorry that you don’t understand mildly complex ideas expressed in English, but you are wrong. The MAGA Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of themeven before Robinson was identified or caught. Robinson was raised Christian, Robinson was neither “coastal” nor “elite”. Robinson did not have a college degree; he was a college dropout from an Utah college. I haven’t heard any mention that Robinson had ever in his life left rural “red” Utah. Robinson was taught to use guns. Robinson was not transgender. (He might be gay or queer, but MAGA is struggling with whether they should think that’s OK now). Robinson’s only known “left wing” views were hating allegedly Charlie Kirk and allegedly loving his roommate. As far as I have seen, he posted no leftist/Democrat political views m and engaged in no organized left wing groups or activities, aside from opposing Charlie Kirk specifically. He never voted for any Presidential candidate!
All of this. No evidence this kid was "leftist". Mounting evidence he really wasn't political or motivated by politics in his decision to commit this crime. But MAGA will milk this to justify more hate and Trump will use it to move us further into authoritarianism.
Anonymous wrote:We’re 20 pages into this. For the love of God, will someone explain to me why the following words that Jimmy Kimmel uttered got him fired? He did not disparage Charlie Kirk or “celebrate” his death. His broader point is that the Trump administration and MAGA are using Kirk’s killing to score political points. That is a widely held belief on the left and has been voiced by many others in TV, social media, etc. Why force him to apologize to the Kirk family and to make a donation to Turning Point when Kimmel didnt say anything bad about Kirk himself?
Kimmel said, “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it.” He suggested the suspect, Tyler Robinson, was aligned with the MAGA movement and criticized Trump supporters for denying this to exploit the tragedy politically. Kimmel also mocked JD Vance’s claims blaming the left and called Trump’s emotional response insincere.
He lied. Again. Wasn’t the first time
DP. What was the lie? That Kirk was killed by a MAGA? The shooter was raised by a MAGA family in a deeply conservative community and state. His personal views, particularly on sexuality and LGBTQ issues, may have changed over the years, but he did come from a MAGA home.
Kimmel also didn't say that the kid was MAGA. He said MAGA was using this episode to consolidate power. And MAGA is using this episode to consolidate power.
He never said the guy was MAGA. He implied he could be.
Please. His statement does say he's maga.
He says he’s one of them. He is.
He’s a white, male, gun, lover, conservative, raised by maga.
But he left his home and was living with a trans woman and was rejecting his parents political beliefs. He stated in text messages sent to his romantic partner that his dad had become more right since Trump was elected and he didn’t agree with his dad. Lots of people here have the same complaints about their parents, people who are democrats and liberals.
Are the dcumers who have republican parents but reject their parents political beliefs MAGA? They are probably white, too.
Lots of gay MAGA in leadership positions. Nick Fuentes is reportedly gay. Lindsey Graham is gay. The shooter is maga. End of story.
Look this narrative change will not change your hunting down and killing all the leftists. You and your kind are going to do that anyway. Anyone who want universal healthcare, pre-k programs or criticize Israel.
None of the evidence presented shows him as a conservative or maga.
Not sure if you count this as "evidence" but his grandmother said:
The grandmother of Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old who allegedly shot Charlie Kirk, spoke out for the first time Friday, claiming there’s no way her quiet and reserved grandson killed the conservative activist.
Speaking to the Daily Mail, Debbie Robinson, 69, claimed she “never” heard Tyler Robinson discussing politics despite his father’s support for President Donald Trump, whom Tyler Robinson dressed as for Halloween in 2017.
“My son, his dad, is a Republican for Trump,” Debbie Robinson told the outlet. “Most of my family members are Republican. I don't know any single one who’s a Democrat. I'm just so confused.”
Grandma is in denial.
She may be in denial about her grandson but she factually states that most of her family members are Republican, that the shooter's father supports Trump, and that the shooter dressed like Trump for Halloween in 2017 (I've seen a photo). It's highly unlikely that the shooter did a 180 degree turn on every conservative issue after marinating in conservatism most of his life. There are, after all, conservatives gays and yes, even conservative trans people (Kaitlyn Jenner comes to mind).
His family’s political leanings are irrelevant. Plenty of people that aren’t maga have maga parents. She states she never heard him talk about politics- so how is her opinion relevant? Because she says his dad is maga? That isn’t evidence of anything. A Halloween costume from 2017 when he was 15, has nothing to do with personal politics (then, and especially now). Plenty of people wore them, most mockingly or as a joke and had nothing to do with maga. I remember lots of kids from school wearing Ross Perot masks back in the day- and it wasn’t because they idolized Ross Perot. His own parents talked politics with him regularly, including about Kirk, and said he had turned left.
Turning left in MAGA world apparently means not hating trans people. All other thoughts and views irrelevant.
Anonymous wrote:We’re 20 pages into this. For the love of God, will someone explain to me why the following words that Jimmy Kimmel uttered got him fired? He did not disparage Charlie Kirk or “celebrate” his death. His broader point is that the Trump administration and MAGA are using Kirk’s killing to score political points. That is a widely held belief on the left and has been voiced by many others in TV, social media, etc. Why force him to apologize to the Kirk family and to make a donation to Turning Point when Kimmel didnt say anything bad about Kirk himself?
Kimmel said, “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it.” He suggested the suspect, Tyler Robinson, was aligned with the MAGA movement and criticized Trump supporters for denying this to exploit the tragedy politically. Kimmel also mocked JD Vance’s claims blaming the left and called Trump’s emotional response insincere.
He lied. Again. Wasn’t the first time
DP. What was the lie? That Kirk was killed by a MAGA? The shooter was raised by a MAGA family in a deeply conservative community and state. His personal views, particularly on sexuality and LGBTQ issues, may have changed over the years, but he did come from a MAGA home.
Kimmel also didn't say that the kid was MAGA. He said MAGA was using this episode to consolidate power. And MAGA is using this episode to consolidate power.
He never said the guy was MAGA. He implied he could be.
Please. His statement does say he's maga.
He says he’s one of them. He is.
He’s a white, male, gun, lover, conservative, raised by maga.
But he left his home and was living with a trans woman and was rejecting his parents political beliefs. He stated in text messages sent to his romantic partner that his dad had become more right since Trump was elected and he didn’t agree with his dad. Lots of people here have the same complaints about their parents, people who are democrats and liberals.
Are the dcumers who have republican parents but reject their parents political beliefs MAGA? They are probably white, too.
Lots of gay MAGA in leadership positions. Nick Fuentes is reportedly gay. Lindsey Graham is gay. The shooter is maga. End of story.
Look this narrative change will not change your hunting down and killing all the leftists. You and your kind are going to do that anyway. Anyone who want universal healthcare, pre-k programs or criticize Israel.
None of the evidence presented shows him as a conservative or maga.
Not sure if you count this as "evidence" but his grandmother said:
The grandmother of Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old who allegedly shot Charlie Kirk, spoke out for the first time Friday, claiming there’s no way her quiet and reserved grandson killed the conservative activist.
Speaking to the Daily Mail, Debbie Robinson, 69, claimed she “never” heard Tyler Robinson discussing politics despite his father’s support for President Donald Trump, whom Tyler Robinson dressed as for Halloween in 2017.
“My son, his dad, is a Republican for Trump,” Debbie Robinson told the outlet. “Most of my family members are Republican. I don't know any single one who’s a Democrat. I'm just so confused.”
Where is the proof that the boyfriend was "trans"? Other than the governor of Utah saying so? The only one who knows if someone is trans or not is the trans person themselves since it is an identity that they claim for themselves. Only they know how they feel inside.
He told the FBI he was. Do you think the FBI just guessed and put it on there?
Who is the head of the FBI? The FBI assaulted and arrested a sitting US senator because he dared ask a question at a press conference.
You not believing the evidence presented is your own choice. But that is the evidence. The FBI has been interviewing and investigating the roommate and states the roommate is fully cooperative. He told the FBI he is in a romantic relationship with Tyler and that he is transitioning to female. That is what the FBI has published. You not believing any of the evidence presented does not equal there being no evidence