RTO EO is up

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Glad I got my popcorn early.

Does it turn you on when other people’s lives are upended?

Drama llama? RTO is hardly an upending - have some perspective

I haven’t been complaining too much about this, mostly because I’ve felt very lucky to be a remote worker and knew it would end someday, but don’t minimize it but saying it doesn’t upend things. I’ll spend 2ish less hours/day with my kids, who are young and still want to spend time with me. My young kids routine is going to change quite a bit (only one parent at home in the morning, most likely) which will be stressful and require adjustment. I haven’t yet figured out a way to keep the exercise routine I’ve had for 2+ years that has greatly improved my physical and mental health, and see my kids at all on those days. And we have a dog who does not enjoy being alone all day.

These are all the problems of privilege, and I recognize that. They still create stress and disruption.

One thing for sure - I’m cutting back to working 40 hours per week!

Cry
Me a River

So you don’t support families? Why would you want parents unnecessarily spending 2 fewer hours with their kids in order to sit alone on Teams calls?

Why don’t you support technology and want to take advantage of the efficiencies it brings? Do you also want us using fax machines?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If I’m told to RTO 5 days a week I will go in 2 days a week and wait for any repercussions. Good luck trying to fire me before 2028.

Me too. I go in 2 days now and will continue to do so until I’m fired.

To be fair, no orders have been issued just yet. I need to know what my agency heads want me to do. For now I will follow my current telework agreement.

But pp if you are told to go in 5 days and only go in 2, that’s time card fraud and insubordination. You can easily be fired. Is it worth your job?

This why people hate government workers

People need not have opinions on “government workers”, you all reek of jealousy and it’s not a good look. Continue to live your miserable lives.

[Anonymous]

D.C. has reciprocity with all states, meaning if you live in any state and work in D.C., you don't pay DC taxes.

[Anonymous]

This comes down to trust. Teleworkers are saying: trust us, we’re being productive at home and not watching the kids/watching TV/taking a nap/taking a walk, etc. The new administration is saying it no longer trusts them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Glad I got my popcorn early.

Does it turn you on when other people’s lives are upended?

Drama llama? RTO is hardly an upending - have some perspective

I haven’t been complaining too much about this, mostly because I’ve felt very lucky to be a remote worker and knew it would end someday, but don’t minimize it but saying it doesn’t upend things. I’ll spend 2ish less hours/day with my kids, who are young and still want to spend time with me. My young kids routine is going to change quite a bit (only one parent at home in the morning, most likely) which will be stressful and require adjustment. I haven’t yet figured out a way to keep the exercise routine I’ve had for 2+ years that has greatly improved my physical and mental health, and see my kids at all on those days. And we have a dog who does not enjoy being alone all day.

These are all the problems of privilege, and I recognize that. They still create stress and disruption.

One thing for sure - I’m cutting back to working 40 hours per week!

Cry
Me a River

So you don’t support families? Why would you want parents unnecessarily spending 2 fewer hours with their kids in order to sit alone on Teams calls?

Why don’t you support technology and want to take advantage of the efficiencies it brings? Do you also want us using fax machines?

Blah blah
Blah. You
Can always quit if you can’t handle returning to the work office

[Anonymous]

Suck it up butter cup

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If I’m told to RTO 5 days a week I will go in 2 days a week and wait for any repercussions. Good luck trying to fire me before 2028.

You will be out very quickly under failure to follow instructions. 3-6 months tops.

Dream on. You have no idea how hard it is to fire someone in my position.

It is inherently difficult to fire feds but not because you or your position is so important.

Np

And I like it that way! Your jealousy is showing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This comes down to trust. Teleworkers are saying: trust us, we’re being productive at home and not watching the kids/watching TV/taking a nap/taking a walk, etc. The new administration is saying it no longer trusts them.

No, the new administration is saying they want people to quit. Elon and Vivek have explicitly said this is a tactic to encourage attrition and reduce federal spending.

If Trump actually wanted people in the office for productivity reasons, he would not simultaneously be seeking to sell two thirds of the governments office space. https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/commercial/the-u-s-government-has-a-landlord-and-trump-isnt-a-fan-872c469e?mod=mhp

[Anonymous]

These responses are hilarious — immediately and predictably latching into the one clause that they think tells them what they want to hear. “Exceptions” by definition are a small minority. You should not expect to be one of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I’m told to RTO 5 days a week I will go in 2 days a week and wait for any repercussions. Good luck trying to fire me before 2028.

Me too. I go in 2 days now and will continue to do so until I’m fired.

To be fair, no orders have been issued just yet. I need to know what my agency heads want me to do. For now I will follow my current telework agreement.

But pp if you are told to go in 5 days and only go in 2, that’s time card fraud and insubordination. You can easily be fired. Is it worth your job?

This why people hate government workers

People need not have opinions on “government workers”, you all reek of jealousy and it’s not a good look. Continue to live your miserable lives.

Luckily that’s not your decision. You know, like RTO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the Trump administration's position is that people who are not committed to their jobs need to start looking. They use willingness to be in person as a measure of that. It's an imperfect measure, to be sure, but there aren't a lot of good measures to be had. Performance reviews are not reliable and also there isn't anything the administration can do to fix that. But they can try to get people back in the offices.

They also want to revitalize the business districts that relied on people coming to work. Good or bad, we will all be better off for thriving brick and mortar businesses and less Chinese Amazon products.

I don't think it's a bad thing to shake this up. Change is hard. We may need to move to a smaller place to make it work. I don't know, but I try to understand the motivations for things and believe there is some good here.

One of the local news stations ran a segment yesterday on Mayor Bowser. She was strongly pushing feds returning to work. The segment said she has been begging the Biden admin to enforce return to the office, and she actually flew down to Marlago to convince Trump to do this.

The reasons cited were revitalizing/saving the business downtown, and as a means to conbat the surging crime in DC over the past 4 years.

This return to work is not solely a trump thing.

It is actually a bipartisan measure between far right trump and far left mayor bowser.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the Trump administration's position is that people who are not committed to their jobs need to start looking. They use willingness to be in person as a measure of that. It's an imperfect measure, to be sure, but there aren't a lot of good measures to be had. Performance reviews are not reliable and also there isn't anything the administration can do to fix that. But they can try to get people back in the offices.

They also want to revitalize the business districts that relied on people coming to work. Good or bad, we will all be better off for thriving brick and mortar businesses and less Chinese Amazon products.

I don't think it's a bad thing to shake this up. Change is hard. We may need to move to a smaller place to make it work. I don't know, but I try to understand the motivations for things and believe there is some good here.

no, their stated position is to “torture” federal employees. (As stated by the OMB nominee Vought.) and the purpose is to score political points by attacking what is perceived as a Democratic institution.

And there is nothing good about putting more cars on the road.

Soooo many desperate excuses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I’m told to RTO 5 days a week I will go in 2 days a week and wait for any repercussions. Good luck trying to fire me before 2028.

You will be out very quickly under failure to follow instructions. 3-6 months tops.

Dream on. You have no idea how hard it is to fire someone in my position.

DP. While it is relatively hard to fire someone for job performance, it is easy to fire someone for conduct. And it can happen quickly, too.

I like that you’re grasping at straws. I actually have no fear because I am well aware of how it works for my position. I’ve been here a long time, I’ve been involved in the process of trying to remove some truly heinous employees, and it can’t be done quickly or easily. Yep. I will report 2 days in the office max, continue to produce stellar work, and no one will touch me—especially not within the 4-year framework of this Administration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the Trump administration's position is that people who are not committed to their jobs need to start looking. They use willingness to be in person as a measure of that. It's an imperfect measure, to be sure, but there aren't a lot of good measures to be had. Performance reviews are not reliable and also there isn't anything the administration can do to fix that. But they can try to get people back in the offices.

They also want to revitalize the business districts that relied on people coming to work. Good or bad, we will all be better off for thriving brick and mortar businesses and less Chinese Amazon products.

I don't think it's a bad thing to shake this up. Change is hard. We may need to move to a smaller place to make it work. I don't know, but I try to understand the motivations for things and believe there is some good here.

One of the local news stations ran a segment yesterday on Mayor Bowser. She was strongly pushing feds returning to work. The segment said she has been begging the Biden admin to enforce return to the office, and she actually flew down to Marlago to convince Trump to do this.

The reasons cited were revitalizing/saving the business downtown, and as a means to conbat the surging crime in DC over the past 4 years.

This return to work is not solely a trump thing.

It is actually a bipartisan measure between far right trump and far left mayor bowser.

Bowser…far left? 🤣

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If I’m told to RTO 5 days a week I will go in 2 days a week and wait for any repercussions. Good luck trying to fire me before 2028.

Please report back and let us know how that works out for you!

Yes, please. And don’t worry. It will be WELL before 2028.