RTO EO is up

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else surprised that their agency hasn’t addressed the EOs? First the return to work one, but also the DEI. We also had several others specific just to our agency directing us to do things. It’s been two days and we haven’t had anything.


Our agency office of diversity and equal opportunity websites are down, but I’m pleased we haven’t gotten that stupid email (at least not yet)
It takes a lot of yes men to institute this crap - it will be interesting to see if enough people simply refuse
Anonymous
NASA just sent out the email word for word from the template.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:NASA just sent out the email word for word from the template.


Oh man. That was a mean template letter. Our work emails aren’t fluffy but they definitely aren’t strict, mean, and cold like that was.
Anonymous
we just got the DEI one, although it was a much shorter version from the template.

We were told wrt RTO to wait until we have directives.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else surprised that their agency hasn’t addressed the EOs? First the return to work one, but also the DEI. We also had several others specific just to our agency directing us to do things. It’s been two days and we haven’t had anything.


They were all over the DEI stuff today. Still no guidance on remote/telework.
Anonymous
I just got that DEI email but they made it very clear they were quoting a required document.
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Anonymous wrote:I think the Trump administration's position is that people who are not committed to their jobs need to start looking. They use willingness to be in person as a measure of that. It's an imperfect measure, to be sure, but there aren't a lot of good measures to be had. Performance reviews are not reliable and also there isn't anything the administration can do to fix that. But they can try to get people back in the offices.

They also want to revitalize the business districts that relied on people coming to work. Good or bad, we will all be better off for thriving brick and mortar businesses and less Chinese Amazon products.

I don't think it's a bad thing to shake this up. Change is hard. We may need to move to a smaller place to make it work. I don't know, but I try to understand the motivations for things and believe there is some good here.


One of the local news stations ran a segment yesterday on Mayor Bowser. She was strongly pushing feds returning to work. The segment said she has been begging the Biden admin to enforce return to the office, and she actually flew down to Marlago to convince Trump to do this.

The reasons cited were revitalizing/saving the business downtown, and as a means to conbat the surging crime in DC over the past 4 years.

This return to work is not solely a trump thing.

It is actually a bipartisan measure between far right trump and far left mayor bowser.


It's a bipartisan thing to fill the pockets of their rich property owning friends. If I go back, there will not be a dime spent in DC, I promise you that.


I don’t think that’s fair. For right or wrong, many small to medium businesses were encouraged to put in businesses to support in office workers. Not just in DC but all over the country. These aren’t just rich property owning friends of Mayor Bowser. These are people who make less than the federal workers. Now they’re gone and crime is up.


It has been demonstrated, many times, that federal workers do not spend money sufficient to prop up local business. They do not have the money, or the time to spend it.

Plus if they did, they'd be spending it their own towns where they currently work, and why is it OK to deprive those businesses to benefit DC businesses? If feds buying lunch actually mattered, the VA and MD governments would be opposing DC RTO to save their own local businesses.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else surprised that their agency hasn’t addressed the EOs? First the return to work one, but also the DEI. We also had several others specific just to our agency directing us to do things. It’s been two days and we haven’t had anything.


Not surprised. It takes time to figure out policy and get it approved, even if the EO is clear (many aren't) and there are acting leaders in place (not everywhere).

They should have sent you something to say they're evaluating and will let you know, but that's it.
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Anonymous wrote:Got an email from our leadership this morning that they aren’t changing any policies on telework. We’ve been 4 days per pay period. Heard from a colleague that OGC told them the CBA trumps the EO. They also got beat up last budget cycle over lease costs and they don’t want to go ask for more money for enough office space for everyone to be in office full time.


which agency?


Poster is referring to SEC. But fake news.


don't think so, SEC is not 4 days / PP


PP was probably thinking 4 days per week because that’s how they personally arrange their 8 days per pay period.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the Trump administration's position is that people who are not committed to their jobs need to start looking. They use willingness to be in person as a measure of that. It's an imperfect measure, to be sure, but there aren't a lot of good measures to be had. Performance reviews are not reliable and also there isn't anything the administration can do to fix that. But they can try to get people back in the offices.

They also want to revitalize the business districts that relied on people coming to work. Good or bad, we will all be better off for thriving brick and mortar businesses and less Chinese Amazon products.

I don't think it's a bad thing to shake this up. Change is hard. We may need to move to a smaller place to make it work. I don't know, but I try to understand the motivations for things and believe there is some good here.


One of the local news stations ran a segment yesterday on Mayor Bowser. She was strongly pushing feds returning to work. The segment said she has been begging the Biden admin to enforce return to the office, and she actually flew down to Marlago to convince Trump to do this.

The reasons cited were revitalizing/saving the business downtown, and as a means to conbat the surging crime in DC over the past 4 years.

This return to work is not solely a trump thing.

It is actually a bipartisan measure between far right trump and far left mayor bowser.


It's a bipartisan thing to fill the pockets of their rich property owning friends. If I go back, there will not be a dime spent in DC, I promise you that.


I don’t think that’s fair. For right or wrong, many small to medium businesses were encouraged to put in businesses to support in office workers. Not just in DC but all over the country. These aren’t just rich property owning friends of Mayor Bowser. These are people who make less than the federal workers. Now they’re gone and crime is up.


It has been demonstrated, many times, that federal workers do not spend money sufficient to prop up local business. They do not have the money, or the time to spend it.

Plus if they did, they'd be spending it their own towns where they currently work, and why is it OK to deprive those businesses to benefit DC businesses? If feds buying lunch actually mattered, the VA and MD governments would be opposing DC RTO to save their own local businesses.


A number I saw was $15-20 million a day from Feds commuting into DC. This would include Metro ridership (and subsidies), building rents and utilities, parking, meals, shopping, drinks, etc. I used to have Amazon packages delivered at work, so DC got that sales tax too.
Anonymous
We received a DEI email this evening. Nothing on RTO.
Anonymous
HHS sent the DEI letter word for word.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:HHS sent the DEI letter word for word.


Same where I am. Clearly under duress.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:HHS sent the DEI letter word for word.


perhaps it's on another page with a 30 page thread I hope not to click backward dozens of times...can someone copy and paste the DEI letter? Please? Curious of the wording.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:HHS sent the DEI letter word for word.


perhaps it's on another page with a 30 page thread I hope not to click backward dozens of times...can someone copy and paste the DEI letter? Please? Curious of the wording.


Look at the DEIA one here:
https://www.chcoc.gov/transmittals
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