Debate Moderator Fact Checks

[Anonymous]

I feel a Hillary Clinton corkscrew landing coming on.

[Anonymous]

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Tell these Americans they’re not in a war zone.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68122706#

The point is, there isn't an active war the US is engaged in. The "police action" those troops are in is not a "war" so technically Harris told the truth.

Well, the US was not technically at war with North Vietnam. But I bet the 58,000 American casualties would beg to differ with Madame VP about technical definitions of a “war” zone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's hilarious to me that people are like why didn't they fact check Harris? If she had said that Haitians in Springfield Ohio were eating people's pets, she would've been fact checked as well. Trump was fact checked 5 times, and they were for his most egregious lies. He had 30 or so other lies that were not fact checked. He lied over 50 times during the Biden debate that went unchecked, so maybe the few checks he had on him did rein him in a little.

DP. The fact checks weren't equal, plain and simple. She lied numerous times, but wasn't called out on it. That was clearly by design from ABC. The moderators were clearly prepared to fact check Trump. They were not prepared to fact check Harris.

Harris couldn't even answer the moderators' questions. Today's local Philadelphia ABC interview confirms that she can't.

The moderators don't have a "fact check AI" sitting in front of them evaluating every sentence, then deciding what to fact-check a candidate on. The lies that Trump actually got fact-checked on were so over-the-top, the moderators had no choice. Executing babies after birth? Eating household pets? He got away with his numerous run-of-the-mill lies. Trump lost the debate due to his own (extremely evident) cognitive decline and general lack of knowledge.

DP. No, the moderators were wrong on their fact checks. There's plenty of evidence that they were, with mainstream publications printing retractions.

I started putting together a post with several examples, but then realized that no matter what I posted, folks on this thread would pull it apart by arguing technicalities - kinda like the "well, we're not officially at war, so Harris was right to say that we don't have troops in a war zone."

Regardless, the fact check on crime going down under Biden-Harris is a good example. It's not. Crimes are are under-reported (including migrant on migrant crime), and there are significant questions about the completeness of the statistics being reported. David Muir fact-checked Trump like he knew the absolute truth that crime is down under Biden-Harris. At best, it's unclear at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Tell these Americans they’re not in a war zone.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68122706#

The point is, there isn't an active war the US is engaged in. The "police action" those troops are in is not a "war" so technically Harris told the truth.

Well, the US was not technically at war with North Vietnam. But I bet the 58,000 American casualties would beg to differ with Madame VP about technical definitions of a “war” zone.

Yeah, this pretty ridiculous of an evasion. We haven't technically fought a way since WWII, mostly because we don't want the people to have a say in matters of war.

Now if you start asking why we spend as many billions on our military as we do when we haven't been in a war for 80 years, then you should really avoid convertibles.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Tell these Americans they’re not in a war zone.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68122706#

The point is, there isn't an active war the US is engaged in. The "police action" those troops are in is not a "war" so technically Harris told the truth.

Well, the US was not technically at war with North Vietnam. But I bet the 58,000 American casualties would beg to differ with Madame VP about technical definitions of a “war” zone.

Yeah, this pretty ridiculous of an evasion. We haven't technically fought a way since WWII, mostly because we don't want the people to have a say in matters of war.

Now if you start asking why we spend as many billions on our military as we do when we haven't been in a war for 80 years, then you should really avoid convertibles.

I guess if you want to argue the generalities of "the US is not at war' with "they are eating our pets, our cats and dogs" then have at it. the former is technically true. the latter is not only not true, but is also a massive racism dog whistle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Tell these Americans they’re not in a war zone.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68122706#

The point is, there isn't an active war the US is engaged in. The "police action" those troops are in is not a "war" so technically Harris told the truth.

Well, the US was not technically at war with North Vietnam. But I bet the 58,000 American casualties would beg to differ with Madame VP about technical definitions of a “war” zone.

Yeah, this pretty ridiculous of an evasion. We haven't technically fought a way since WWII, mostly because we don't want the people to have a say in matters of war.

Now if you start asking why we spend as many billions on our military as we do when we haven't been in a war for 80 years, then you should really avoid convertibles.

I guess if you want to argue the generalities of "the US is not at war' with "they are eating our pets, our cats and dogs" then have at it. the former is technically true. the latter is not only not true, but is also a massive racism dog whistle.

Personally, I think its a bigger deal to have politicians lying about matters of war and peace than about Haitian cuisine. In part because the lies about war are ongoing and bipartisan, while not wanting Haitians in their neighborhoods is also bipartisan and people are only in a huff because its an election season.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Tell these Americans they’re not in a war zone.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68122706#

The point is, there isn't an active war the US is engaged in. The "police action" those troops are in is not a "war" so technically Harris told the truth.

Well, the US was not technically at war with North Vietnam. But I bet the 58,000 American casualties would beg to differ with Madame VP about technical definitions of a “war” zone.

That was an active conflict.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Tell these Americans they’re not in a war zone.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68122706#

The point is, there isn't an active war the US is engaged in. The "police action" those troops are in is not a "war" so technically Harris told the truth.

Well, the US was not technically at war with North Vietnam. But I bet the 58,000 American casualties would beg to differ with Madame VP about technical definitions of a “war” zone.

Yeah, this pretty ridiculous of an evasion. We haven't technically fought a way since WWII, mostly because we don't want the people to have a say in matters of war.

Now if you start asking why we spend as many billions on our military as we do when we haven't been in a war for 80 years, then you should really avoid convertibles.

I guess if you want to argue the generalities of "the US is not at war' with "they are eating our pets, our cats and dogs" then have at it. the former is technically true. the latter is not only not true, but is also a massive racism dog whistle.

Personally, I think its a bigger deal to have politicians lying about matters of war and peace than about Haitian cuisine. In part because the lies about war are ongoing and bipartisan, while not wanting Haitians in their neighborhoods is also bipartisan and people are only in a huff because its an election season.

Wait, so you are saying you are actually FINE FINE with the former president of the US saying false things to put Americans lives at risk? That you are fine with bomb threats in Springfield? That you were fine with Asian Americans being attacked during COVID. That you are fine with his words causing people to be doxxed and threatened with rape. Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are you DCUM folks asking to have this deleted? Is it too inconvenient?

lol this is funny

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Tell these Americans they’re not in a war zone.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68122706#

The point is, there isn't an active war the US is engaged in. The "police action" those troops are in is not a "war" so technically Harris told the truth.

Well, the US was not technically at war with North Vietnam. But I bet the 58,000 American casualties would beg to differ with Madame VP about technical definitions of a “war” zone.

Yeah, this pretty ridiculous of an evasion. We haven't technically fought a way since WWII, mostly because we don't want the people to have a say in matters of war.

Now if you start asking why we spend as many billions on our military as we do when we haven't been in a war for 80 years, then you should really avoid convertibles.

I guess if you want to argue the generalities of "the US is not at war' with "they are eating our pets, our cats and dogs" then have at it. the former is technically true. the latter is not only not true, but is also a massive racism dog whistle.

Personally, I think its a bigger deal to have politicians lying about matters of war and peace than about Haitian cuisine. In part because the lies about war are ongoing and bipartisan, while not wanting Haitians in their neighborhoods is also bipartisan and people are only in a huff because its an election season.

Wait, so you are saying you are actually FINE FINE with the former president of the US saying false things to put Americans lives at risk? That you are fine with bomb threats in Springfield? That you were fine with Asian Americans being attacked during COVID. That you are fine with his words causing people to be doxxed and threatened with rape. Wow.

weird claims of disconnected things

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Tell these Americans they’re not in a war zone.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68122706#

The point is, there isn't an active war the US is engaged in. The "police action" those troops are in is not a "war" so technically Harris told the truth.

Well, the US was not technically at war with North Vietnam. But I bet the 58,000 American casualties would beg to differ with Madame VP about technical definitions of a “war” zone.

Yeah, this pretty ridiculous of an evasion. We haven't technically fought a way since WWII, mostly because we don't want the people to have a say in matters of war.

Now if you start asking why we spend as many billions on our military as we do when we haven't been in a war for 80 years, then you should really avoid convertibles.

I guess if you want to argue the generalities of "the US is not at war' with "they are eating our pets, our cats and dogs" then have at it. the former is technically true. the latter is not only not true, but is also a massive racism dog whistle.

Personally, I think its a bigger deal to have politicians lying about matters of war and peace than about Haitian cuisine. In part because the lies about war are ongoing and bipartisan, while not wanting Haitians in their neighborhoods is also bipartisan and people are only in a huff because its an election season.

Wait, so you are saying you are actually FINE FINE with the former president of the US saying false things to put Americans lives at risk? That you are fine with bomb threats in Springfield? That you were fine with Asian Americans being attacked during COVID. That you are fine with his words causing people to be doxxed and threatened with rape. Wow.

weird claims of disconnected things

DP, not really weird claims and the things are not disconnected; in fact, very connected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Tell these Americans they’re not in a war zone.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68122706#

The point is, there isn't an active war the US is engaged in. The "police action" those troops are in is not a "war" so technically Harris told the truth.

Apparently, those soldiers in the room in harms way would disagree.

And the rest of the military, their families, and veterans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Republicans honestly believe that Trump stands for “free speech.” Of course what they appear to mean by “free speech” is “no consequences for saying terrible things about people in the out groups, but getting shot for protesting in favor of better treatment for the out group members.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Tell these Americans they’re not in a war zone.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68122706#

The point is, there isn't an active war the US is engaged in. The "police action" those troops are in is not a "war" so technically Harris told the truth.

Well, the US was not technically at war with North Vietnam. But I bet the 58,000 American casualties would beg to differ with Madame VP about technical definitions of a “war” zone.

Yeah, this pretty ridiculous of an evasion. We haven't technically fought a way since WWII, mostly because we don't want the people to have a say in matters of war.

Now if you start asking why we spend as many billions on our military as we do when we haven't been in a war for 80 years, then you should really avoid convertibles.

I guess if you want to argue the generalities of "the US is not at war' with "they are eating our pets, our cats and dogs" then have at it. the former is technically true. the latter is not only not true, but is also a massive racism dog whistle.

Personally, I think its a bigger deal to have politicians lying about matters of war and peace than about Haitian cuisine. In part because the lies about war are ongoing and bipartisan, while not wanting Haitians in their neighborhoods is also bipartisan and people are only in a huff because its an election season.

Wait, so you are saying you are actually FINE FINE with the former president of the US saying false things to put Americans lives at risk? That you are fine with bomb threats in Springfield? That you were fine with Asian Americans being attacked during COVID. That you are fine with his words causing people to be doxxed and threatened with rape. Wow.

Yes, that is what Republicans support. Just like the “good Germans” before them, they think they can get rid of the icky people they don’t like (although the list of “icky” people to modern Republicans is a very long list starting with Black and brown people) and that then things will be amazing in this country. They like the fascist thuggery because it works to their advantage right now.