Official Kamala Harris VP Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the DNC want to run anyone other than Harris? Her name is already out there, and she's the most visible non-biden Democrat currently. It feels like they want to make this a much more chaotic process than it needs to be. Just follow party line and say she's a good candidate and MOVE ON.

Because the Dem governors are all polling higher than her. If this really is about saving us from Trump, why not go with a candidate who is polling higher? Everyone is acting like Kamala has already won. I think that's dangerous, especially as Biden screwed her over and she's tainted because of him. Remember how we watched with dread on election night 2016.

People are by-and-large unknowledgable about these governors, that's why the poll so high, and there's a bunch of energy for someone new. I think it'll be an even riskier mistake to start with a completely new candidate and different campaign, because 5 months out from the election, a governor whose relatively unknown is polling high.

But we've seen how Kamala performs on the national stage on her own and it was abysmal. If this election is really as important as people say it is, maybe some risk-taking is warranted.

Not this close to the election.

The risk in ousting Harris is you risk losing a crucial voting block.
Basically, it's ride or die with her.

What voting block? Both she and Booker performed horribly with black voters in 2020. She is not well liked or seen as authentic. Do not be fooled by these college-educated black surrogates with big platforms, they are not reflective of the black vote at large and there is a growing disconnect between these elites and regular black voters.

It;s 2024, I They would have pissed off a lot of black voters if they skipped over her and went immediately to someone else.

No they wouldn't have. Black voters don't rock with Kamala like that. Don't be fooled by the talking heads on CNN like Van Jones etc; they are not representative.

Yes they do And yes they would have.

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My prediction is it’s going to be Kelly.

I’ve heard a lot of folks say Shapiro but I have trouble seeing folks support the first Jewish VP in this environment right now (I’d love to be pleasantly surprised). The same goes for Pete who would be my pick (but again, doubt folks will support the first openly gay VP either).

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is it’s going to be Kelly.

I’ve heard a lot of folks say Shapiro but I have trouble seeing folks support the first Jewish VP in this environment right now (I’d love to be pleasantly surprised). The same goes for Pete who would be my pick (but again, doubt folks will support the first openly gay VP either).

I think you’re right. The only thing preventing him from being the runaway favorite is that AZ would have a special election to replace his seat in the senate. But that would be 1-2 years down the road, and really the most important thing is winning now. So I think Harris’ campaign will accept the risk for someone who brings so much to the ticket.

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is it’s going to be Kelly.

I’ve heard a lot of folks say Shapiro but I have trouble seeing folks support the first Jewish VP in this environment right now (I’d love to be pleasantly surprised). The same goes for Pete who would be my pick (but again, doubt folks will support the first openly gay VP either).

I think you’re right. The only thing preventing him from being the runaway favorite is that AZ would have a special election to replace his seat in the senate. But that would be 1-2 years down the road, and really the most important thing is winning now. So I think Harris’ campaign will accept the risk for someone who brings so much to the ticket.

I think he would be a phenomenal pick. However I think it's down to Cooper and Neshear, and Shapiro a distant third,. Also seems as of right now COpper s the favorite.

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I think it’s going to be Beshear. He’s a young (but not too young), white, straight, Christian male from the heartland. Checks nearly all the boxes in terms of appealing to crossover voters and has proven he can win over a red state. Would be a great counterpoint to Vance. Also a governor, so dems wouldn’t have to worry about losing his congressional seat.

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is it’s going to be Kelly.

I’ve heard a lot of folks say Shapiro but I have trouble seeing folks support the first Jewish VP in this environment right now (I’d love to be pleasantly surprised). The same goes for Pete who would be my pick (but again, doubt folks will support the first openly gay VP either).

I think you’re right. The only thing preventing him from being the runaway favorite is that AZ would have a special election to replace his seat in the senate. But that would be 1-2 years down the road, and really the most important thing is winning now. So I think Harris’ campaign will accept the risk for someone who brings so much to the ticket.

I think he would be a phenomenal pick. However I think it's down to Cooper and Neshear, and Shapiro a distant third,. Also seems as of right now COpper s the favorite.

What are you basing this analysis on?

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is it’s going to be Kelly.

I’ve heard a lot of folks say Shapiro but I have trouble seeing folks support the first Jewish VP in this environment right now (I’d love to be pleasantly surprised). The same goes for Pete who would be my pick (but again, doubt folks will support the first openly gay VP either).

I think you’re right. The only thing preventing him from being the runaway favorite is that AZ would have a special election to replace his seat in the senate. But that would be 1-2 years down the road, and really the most important thing is winning now. So I think Harris’ campaign will accept the risk for someone who brings so much to the ticket.

I think he would be a phenomenal pick. However I think it's down to Cooper and Neshear, and Shapiro a distant third,. Also seems as of right now COpper s the favorite.

Cooper is my favorite. Ok, he’s “old”, 67, but he has so much experience with fascists masquerading as GOP politicians. And he was still able to get some of his agenda through with his super majority. Him, coupled with new and improved North Carolina Democratic Party will bring Harris 14 electoral college votes. He’s a seasoned politician, has been doing this for a long time and never lost an election and he’ll have Kamala’s back.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s going to be Beshear. He’s a young (but not too young), white, straight, Christian male from the heartland. Checks nearly all the boxes in terms of appealing to crossover voters and has proven he can win over a red state. Would be a great counterpoint to Vance. Also a governor, so dems wouldn’t have to worry about losing his congressional seat.

And leave the people of KY high and dry? He’s not bringing any electoral votes. The point of VP is to balance the ticket and bring in votes.

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It’s happening!!

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is it’s going to be Kelly.

I’ve heard a lot of folks say Shapiro but I have trouble seeing folks support the first Jewish VP in this environment right now (I’d love to be pleasantly surprised). The same goes for Pete who would be my pick (but again, doubt folks will support the first openly gay VP either).

I think you’re right. The only thing preventing him from being the runaway favorite is that AZ would have a special election to replace his seat in the senate. But that would be 1-2 years down the road, and really the most important thing is winning now. So I think Harris’ campaign will accept the risk for someone who brings so much to the ticket.

I think he would be a phenomenal pick. However I think it's down to Cooper and Neshear, and Shapiro a distant third,. Also seems as of right now COpper s the favorite.

Cooper is my favorite. Ok, he’s “old”, 67, but he has so much experience with fascists masquerading as GOP politicians. And he was still able to get some of his agenda through with his super majority. Him, coupled with new and improved North Carolina Democratic Party will bring Harris 14 electoral college votes. He’s a seasoned politician, has been doing this for a long time and never lost an election and he’ll have Kamala’s back.

Long story short he could be to Haris what Biden was to Obama.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s happening!!

what is?

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Anonymous wrote:Why not Kelly? He provides the macho vibe.

He's boring and won't carry AZ. But I'm fine with him.

He’s a former combat pilot and astronaut whose wife was nearly assassinated but that’s not exciting enough?

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s going to be Beshear. He’s a young (but not too young), white, straight, Christian male from the heartland. Checks nearly all the boxes in terms of appealing to crossover voters and has proven he can win over a red state. Would be a great counterpoint to Vance. Also a governor, so dems wouldn’t have to worry about losing his congressional seat.

And leave the people of KY high and dry? He’s not bringing any electoral votes. The point of VP is to balance the ticket and bring in votes.

I question whether a VP can really carry his home state for the ticket. Especially if he’s a governor. People are willing to cross party lines for gubernatorial elections because they are relatively low risk. I hope Harris is focusing on the qualities each VP candidate brings and not just assuming that he will definitely deliver his state’s EC votes.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s going to be Beshear. He’s a young (but not too young), white, straight, Christian male from the heartland. Checks nearly all the boxes in terms of appealing to crossover voters and has proven he can win over a red state. Would be a great counterpoint to Vance. Also a governor, so dems wouldn’t have to worry about losing his congressional seat.

And leave the people of KY high and dry? He’s not bringing any electoral votes. The point of VP is to balance the ticket and bring in votes.

The lieutenant governor of Kentucky is a Democrat.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the DNC want to run anyone other than Harris? Her name is already out there, and she's the most visible non-biden Democrat currently. It feels like they want to make this a much more chaotic process than it needs to be. Just follow party line and say she's a good candidate and MOVE ON.

Because the Dem governors are all polling higher than her. If this really is about saving us from Trump, why not go with a candidate who is polling higher? Everyone is acting like Kamala has already won. I think that's dangerous, especially as Biden screwed her over and she's tainted because of him. Remember how we watched with dread on election night 2016.

People are by-and-large unknowledgable about these governors, that's why the poll so high, and there's a bunch of energy for someone new. I think it'll be an even riskier mistake to start with a completely new candidate and different campaign, because 5 months out from the election, a governor whose relatively unknown is polling high.

But we've seen how Kamala performs on the national stage on her own and it was abysmal. If this election is really as important as people say it is, maybe some risk-taking is warranted.

Not this close to the election.

The risk in ousting Harris is you risk losing a crucial voting block.
Basically, it's ride or die with her.

What voting block? Both she and Booker performed horribly with black voters in 2020. She is not well liked or seen as authentic. Do not be fooled by these college-educated black surrogates with big platforms, they are not reflective of the black vote at large and there is a growing disconnect between these elites and regular black voters.

It;s 2024, I They would have pissed off a lot of black voters if they skipped over her and went immediately to someone else.

This.
Especially bring the party of DEI.
How do you explain away passing up the VP who is also black and a woman and still claim to be the party of DEI?!?!
You can’t.
Not unless you find another black woman nominee who is willing to run and will pull on more votes.
But Michelle isn’t running (or at least that’s what she keeps saying) so they are stuck.
And at this point even if she were willing, Kamala wouldn’t step aside without a fight, so it would get ugly.
This way, they can just run Kamala and lose. They were going to lose with Biden anyway, but then they would have had to push Kamala aside in 2028, so this way it’s accelerated and they’ll get to run a different candidate against JD Vance and win in 2028.