Pro Israel demonstration in DC?

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Some other winners from today:

Many Gaza ‘civilians’ are Hamas in training

If you keep saying ‘Free Palestine,’ us Jews are gonna take it. We love free stuff!

A sign with a large drawing of an Israeli flag. “From the river to the sea, that’s the flag you’re going to see."

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if a pro Israel rally is planned for DC area as a counter to all the Palestinian protests that have taken place?

I believe it is a rally supporting Israel, to fight against anti-Semitism, and also a call to release the hostages.

It is a rally to call for the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Palestinians people. And because they get $300B to do it, I guess they're pretty comfortable in their request.

No.
It’s a call to support Israel and to support Jews who can hold two things in their heads and hearts at once: Desire for Israelis to live in peace and security (and Jews there and elsewhere not to be exterminated as Hamas and their supporters would like) and an end to violence which also means an end to bombings in Gaza, humanitarian aid to people in Gaza, and return of hostages.

Many who I know attending want bombing to end, peace for Palestinians, statehood for Palestinians, peace for Israelis, they are critics of the Netanyahu government.

If you don’t want pro-Palestinians painted as terrorist loving Jew haters then don’t stereotype those attending a pro-Israel march.

I watched it live for some time and they are not calling for peace or a ceasefire. The tone is very nationalistic

I have watched for a while.
Mostly students speaking up to this point. They express pride in their Judaism. They are also speaking to the antisemitism they have suffered.
I have heard at least 3 speakers talk about the hostages and how they need to be released.
Make that 4 speakers. Another one just spoke about it.

So tone deaf for the wealthy college kids to talk about their suffering when Gazan children have literally had their body parts blown off in strikes. Entire families disintegrated. But we're getting tears from students re: how hard it was to watch protests calling for peace. Disgusting

Weird—I thought wealthy college kids are anti-Israel, or at least cosplaying as freedom fighters.

Some are, but the dirty little secret is that a significant percentage of the protestors on campus are here on a student visa, and they're engaging in intimidation and sometimes violence against American citizens.

Unless you can provide a cite, my guess is that student visa holders do not comprise a significant percentage of the posters.

It's that good old racism again. Of course we believe that the Pro-Israel Jewish kids are Americans because of their whiteness but the Arab-looking, POC kids must be foreigners. And in the same breathe the pro-Israel folks keep telling us how persecuted they are. Not buying it this time. Sorry, folks.

How many times does this need to be said?
This conflict has nothing to do with color.
Jews and Arabs, Palestinians and Israelis LOOK THE SAME.

Nope. Ask any Israeli if they can spot a Palestinian and vice versa. There may be some overlap, but Jewish Israelis look European. Palestinians, especially those from Gaza, are typically brown—they do not look European.

Tell me you’ve never been to Israel without telling me you’ve never been to Israel.

I lived in Jerusalem for 15 years. You’re delusional. This is absolutely about white European colonists taking land from brown people. Again.

Jews are not European.
This is not a white/brown issue.
Stop approaching this like an American.

Ashkenazi Jews are European. I am one of them. Why does this stir you up? You’re being untruthful if you say you can’t spot a Gazan vs an Israeli Jew.

Ask your grandparents or great grandparents if they're European. If they're still alive.
My grand parents came from Europe. They didn't speak a word of any language spoken in Europe. They were not considered European by anyone in Europe. And they were not considered European by the Americans who stamped "Hebrew" on their papers when they arrived here.

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Anonymous wrote:Some other winners from today:

Many Gaza ‘civilians’ are Hamas in training

If you keep saying ‘Free Palestine,’ us Jews are gonna take it. We love free stuff!

A sign with a large drawing of an Israeli flag. “From the river to the sea, that’s the flag you’re going to see."

Yup, and they're not promoting ethnic cleansing at all. All of these are pro-mass murder.....because they can.

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Anonymous wrote:Tens of thousands of people marching to celebrate genocide. No one is going to convinced to support Israel from this stunt. If anything, it’s the opposite.

I mean this rally could have been named, “Support for genocide” I mean do people have no shame these days???

Obviously you aren’t there or you wouldn’t say this. Absolutely no one is marching to support genocide and almost every speaker has mentioned innocent Palestinian lives lost and hopes for peace in the region. Sorry that it doesn’t fit in with your narrative.

Zionism explicitly calls for genocide. This march was all for the complete abolition of the Palestinian people and their removal from their generational homeland. Yes, we save Van Jones call for peace - and then we saw the pro-genocide crowd break into "no ceasefire" chants.

These people are complete and utter monsters. I don't think there's anyway that Israel can recover its image from this - at least not from those that believe in human rights. The far right and evangelicals love it because they also believe in mass extermination of those that they deem unworthy. Couldn't have found better bedfellows.

You are completely delusional.

What I call delusional are the pro-genocide denialists who pretend like they haven't been in favor of displacing millions of Palestinians from their homes. When you takeover land that has millions of native inhabitants, what do you think will happen to them? Zionism is colonialism and we should not be having valid discussions on these issues in 2023. The fact that you believe the right of Palestinians born and raised in the region can be displaced by immigrants from Europe and the US who had not stepped foot in Palestinian for 2000 years is shocking and abhorrent.

We need to start calling Israel out for the war crimes and terrorism that it has undertaken daily for the past 75 years.

The Palestinians could have had their own state, but they rejected it and launched a new intifada. The Israelis left the Gaza Strip in 2005, and Hamas decided to turn it into a terrorism factory, rather than improve life for their own people. They are largely reaping what they sowed.

You're just another empty-headed progressive, bleating vapid propaganda phrases. Your understanding of history, or lack thereof, is just embarrassing and sad. You should go back to tearing down posters of kidnapped Israeli kids and threatening Jewish college girls, rather than trying to talk with adults.

Honestly, STFU. We're so tired of these lies. Israel offered crap terms with no right of return, no safety for Palestinians and no right to E Jerusalem. There were zero bona fide efforts by them. Israel deliberately gave crappy deals so that people like you could then say "but but the Palestinians!!!".

Israelis are murderous terrorists who stole land and killed natives. They've been on a misinformation binge for 75 years trying to rewrite history to center them as the victims. It is BS and we are not buying it any more. Everything that Israel has claimed has been a lie and we have seen it in real time.

While you cry for another genocide, we're trying to prevent it. We know what side of history that you are on.

Listen, kid, I'm not some Jewish college student you and your Hamas-loving buddies can bully and scare into silence.

You've been brainwashed by anti-Semitic propaganda, and now go around bleating catchphrases that you think make you look deep and progressive. You're just embarrassing yourself at this point. You probably list your pronouns in all your social media, and begin every meeting with a land acknowledgment.

Your Hamas homies are now discovering that it's a lot less fun to face the IDF, as opposed to murdering and raping unarmed teenagers and the elderly.

No, I've actually read the history. Jews landed from Europe to settle the Palestinian Territory. There were millions of natives there. They killed and displaced them. They burned villages, stole homes, raped women and forced thousands into exile. They've since forced the remaining natives into a military dictatorship and apartheid.

how you guys continue to support that becuase you are the "chosen ones" is really beyond any normal comprehension. It is kool-aid level cult derangement.

No, Jews didn't "land" in Israel. Hundreds of thousands of them already lived there pre-1948. Others arrived as refugees from Europe. Others were forced there when the rest of the Muslim world kicked them out.

Jews are just as "native" to Israel as Palestinians (who, as Arabs, are the descendants of a group of invaders from the Arabian peninsula).

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Anonymous wrote:Tens of thousands of people marching to celebrate genocide. No one is going to convinced to support Israel from this stunt. If anything, it’s the opposite.

I mean this rally could have been named, “Support for genocide” I mean do people have no shame these days???

Obviously you aren’t there or you wouldn’t say this. Absolutely no one is marching to support genocide and almost every speaker has mentioned innocent Palestinian lives lost and hopes for peace in the region. Sorry that it doesn’t fit in with your narrative.

Zionism explicitly calls for genocide. This march was all for the complete abolition of the Palestinian people and their removal from their generational homeland. Yes, we save Van Jones call for peace - and then we saw the pro-genocide crowd break into "no ceasefire" chants.

These people are complete and utter monsters. I don't think there's anyway that Israel can recover its image from this - at least not from those that believe in human rights. The far right and evangelicals love it because they also believe in mass extermination of those that they deem unworthy. Couldn't have found better bedfellows.

You are completely delusional.

What I call delusional are the pro-genocide denialists who pretend like they haven't been in favor of displacing millions of Palestinians from their homes. When you takeover land that has millions of native inhabitants, what do you think will happen to them? Zionism is colonialism and we should not be having valid discussions on these issues in 2023. The fact that you believe the right of Palestinians born and raised in the region can be displaced by immigrants from Europe and the US who had not stepped foot in Palestinian for 2000 years is shocking and abhorrent.

We need to start calling Israel out for the war crimes and terrorism that it has undertaken daily for the past 75 years.

The Palestinians could have had their own state, but they rejected it and launched a new intifada. The Israelis left the Gaza Strip in 2005, and Hamas decided to turn it into a terrorism factory, rather than improve life for their own people. They are largely reaping what they sowed.

You're just another empty-headed progressive, bleating vapid propaganda phrases. Your understanding of history, or lack thereof, is just embarrassing and sad. You should go back to tearing down posters of kidnapped Israeli kids and threatening Jewish college girls, rather than trying to talk with adults.

Honestly, STFU. We're so tired of these lies. Israel offered crap terms with no right of return, no safety for Palestinians and no right to E Jerusalem. There were zero bona fide efforts by them. Israel deliberately gave crappy deals so that people like you could then say "but but the Palestinians!!!".

Israelis are murderous terrorists who stole land and killed natives. They've been on a misinformation binge for 75 years trying to rewrite history to center them as the victims. It is BS and we are not buying it any more. Everything that Israel has claimed has been a lie and we have seen it in real time.

While you cry for another genocide, we're trying to prevent it. We know what side of history that you are on.

Listen, kid, I'm not some Jewish college student you and your Hamas-loving buddies can bully and scare into silence.

You've been brainwashed by anti-Semitic propaganda, and now go around bleating catchphrases that you think make you look deep and progressive. You're just embarrassing yourself at this point. You probably list your pronouns in all your social media, and begin every meeting with a land acknowledgment.

Your Hamas homies are now discovering that it's a lot less fun to face the IDF, as opposed to murdering and raping unarmed teenagers and the elderly.

No, I've actually read the history. Jews landed from Europe to settle the Palestinian Territory. There were millions of natives there. They killed and displaced them. They burned villages, stole homes, raped women and forced thousands into exile. They've since forced the remaining natives into a military dictatorship and apartheid.

how you guys continue to support that becuase you are the "chosen ones" is really beyond any normal comprehension. It is kool-aid level cult derangement.

Yup. Sounds like you "did your research".

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Anonymous wrote:Tens of thousands of people marching to celebrate genocide. No one is going to convinced to support Israel from this stunt. If anything, it’s the opposite.

I mean this rally could have been named, “Support for genocide” I mean do people have no shame these days???

Obviously you aren’t there or you wouldn’t say this. Absolutely no one is marching to support genocide and almost every speaker has mentioned innocent Palestinian lives lost and hopes for peace in the region. Sorry that it doesn’t fit in with your narrative.

Zionism explicitly calls for genocide. This march was all for the complete abolition of the Palestinian people and their removal from their generational homeland. Yes, we save Van Jones call for peace - and then we saw the pro-genocide crowd break into "no ceasefire" chants.

These people are complete and utter monsters. I don't think there's anyway that Israel can recover its image from this - at least not from those that believe in human rights. The far right and evangelicals love it because they also believe in mass extermination of those that they deem unworthy. Couldn't have found better bedfellows.

You are completely delusional.

What I call delusional are the pro-genocide denialists who pretend like they haven't been in favor of displacing millions of Palestinians from their homes. When you takeover land that has millions of native inhabitants, what do you think will happen to them? Zionism is colonialism and we should not be having valid discussions on these issues in 2023. The fact that you believe the right of Palestinians born and raised in the region can be displaced by immigrants from Europe and the US who had not stepped foot in Palestinian for 2000 years is shocking and abhorrent.

We need to start calling Israel out for the war crimes and terrorism that it has undertaken daily for the past 75 years.

The Palestinians could have had their own state, but they rejected it and launched a new intifada. The Israelis left the Gaza Strip in 2005, and Hamas decided to turn it into a terrorism factory, rather than improve life for their own people. They are largely reaping what they sowed.

You're just another empty-headed progressive, bleating vapid propaganda phrases. Your understanding of history, or lack thereof, is just embarrassing and sad. You should go back to tearing down posters of kidnapped Israeli kids and threatening Jewish college girls, rather than trying to talk with adults.

Honestly, STFU. We're so tired of these lies. Israel offered crap terms with no right of return, no safety for Palestinians and no right to E Jerusalem. There were zero bona fide efforts by them. Israel deliberately gave crappy deals so that people like you could then say "but but the Palestinians!!!".

Israelis are murderous terrorists who stole land and killed natives. They've been on a misinformation binge for 75 years trying to rewrite history to center them as the victims. It is BS and we are not buying it any more. Everything that Israel has claimed has been a lie and we have seen it in real time.

While you cry for another genocide, we're trying to prevent it. We know what side of history that you are on.

Listen, kid, I'm not some Jewish college student you and your Hamas-loving buddies can bully and scare into silence.

You've been brainwashed by anti-Semitic propaganda, and now go around bleating catchphrases that you think make you look deep and progressive. You're just embarrassing yourself at this point. You probably list your pronouns in all your social media, and begin every meeting with a land acknowledgment.

Your Hamas homies are now discovering that it's a lot less fun to face the IDF, as opposed to murdering and raping unarmed teenagers and the elderly.

No, I've actually read the history. Jews landed from Europe to settle the Palestinian Territory. There were millions of natives there. They killed and displaced them. They burned villages, stole homes, raped women and forced thousands into exile. They've since forced the remaining natives into a military dictatorship and apartheid.

how you guys continue to support that becuase you are the "chosen ones" is really beyond any normal comprehension. It is kool-aid level cult derangement.

No, Jews didn't "land" in Israel. Hundreds of thousands of them already lived there pre-1948. Others arrived as refugees from Europe. Others were forced there when the rest of the Muslim world kicked them out.

Jews are just as "native" to Israel as Palestinians (who, as Arabs, are the descendants of a group of invaders from the Arabian peninsula).

Hilarious. By "others" PP means over 80% of the Israeli population. They are so native that over 80% came from Europe because those Europeans had a greater claim than the thousands of people living and working on the land at the time. Sure. Their 20000000 year old ancestors claim trumps the guy born in the house you stole. Got it.

A 2000 year old history does not give you carte-blanche to murder everyone. Why is this so hard?

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Others brandished homemade signs declaring, “Make Gaza Flat Again.”

Well, that's definitely a call for peace.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/11/14/march-for-israel-dc-rally-national-mall/

And when individuals carried - and carry - signs during free Palestine matches depicting cleaning the world of Jews and chanting gas the Jews etc that’s a call for peace? I remember pro- Palestine supporters saying “but it’s just one!!!” Can’t judge all by one”

Ok, so which is it?

Are both examples isolated extremist outliers or not?

Yes, but in the case of pro Palestinian marchers there are more such extreme individual examples.

Not sure what you think is extreme, but I have not seen any racist or antisemitic signs at any of the pro-Palestine marches. I have seen a lot of anti-Zionist signs, but you can hardly expect a Palestinian to support Zionism! Why wouldn’t they march against it?

Ok how would you describe signs of Israel flag/ Star of David being thrown into the trash with writing “clean the world?”

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Anonymous wrote:Tens of thousands of people marching to celebrate genocide. No one is going to convinced to support Israel from this stunt. If anything, it’s the opposite.

I mean this rally could have been named, “Support for genocide” I mean do people have no shame these days???

Obviously you aren’t there or you wouldn’t say this. Absolutely no one is marching to support genocide and almost every speaker has mentioned innocent Palestinian lives lost and hopes for peace in the region. Sorry that it doesn’t fit in with your narrative.

Zionism explicitly calls for genocide. This march was all for the complete abolition of the Palestinian people and their removal from their generational homeland. Yes, we save Van Jones call for peace - and then we saw the pro-genocide crowd break into "no ceasefire" chants.

These people are complete and utter monsters. I don't think there's anyway that Israel can recover its image from this - at least not from those that believe in human rights. The far right and evangelicals love it because they also believe in mass extermination of those that they deem unworthy. Couldn't have found better bedfellows.

You are completely delusional.

What I call delusional are the pro-genocide denialists who pretend like they haven't been in favor of displacing millions of Palestinians from their homes. When you takeover land that has millions of native inhabitants, what do you think will happen to them? Zionism is colonialism and we should not be having valid discussions on these issues in 2023. The fact that you believe the right of Palestinians born and raised in the region can be displaced by immigrants from Europe and the US who had not stepped foot in Palestinian for 2000 years is shocking and abhorrent.

We need to start calling Israel out for the war crimes and terrorism that it has undertaken daily for the past 75 years.

The Palestinians could have had their own state, but they rejected it and launched a new intifada. The Israelis left the Gaza Strip in 2005, and Hamas decided to turn it into a terrorism factory, rather than improve life for their own people. They are largely reaping what they sowed.

You're just another empty-headed progressive, bleating vapid propaganda phrases. Your understanding of history, or lack thereof, is just embarrassing and sad. You should go back to tearing down posters of kidnapped Israeli kids and threatening Jewish college girls, rather than trying to talk with adults.

Honestly, STFU. We're so tired of these lies. Israel offered crap terms with no right of return, no safety for Palestinians and no right to E Jerusalem. There were zero bona fide efforts by them. Israel deliberately gave crappy deals so that people like you could then say "but but the Palestinians!!!".

Israelis are murderous terrorists who stole land and killed natives. They've been on a misinformation binge for 75 years trying to rewrite history to center them as the victims. It is BS and we are not buying it any more. Everything that Israel has claimed has been a lie and we have seen it in real time.

While you cry for another genocide, we're trying to prevent it. We know what side of history that you are on.

Listen, kid, I'm not some Jewish college student you and your Hamas-loving buddies can bully and scare into silence.

You've been brainwashed by anti-Semitic propaganda, and now go around bleating catchphrases that you think make you look deep and progressive. You're just embarrassing yourself at this point. You probably list your pronouns in all your social media, and begin every meeting with a land acknowledgment.

Your Hamas homies are now discovering that it's a lot less fun to face the IDF, as opposed to murdering and raping unarmed teenagers and the elderly.

No, I've actually read the history. Jews landed from Europe to settle the Palestinian Territory. There were millions of natives there. They killed and displaced them. They burned villages, stole homes, raped women and forced thousands into exile. They've since forced the remaining natives into a military dictatorship and apartheid.

how you guys continue to support that becuase you are the "chosen ones" is really beyond any normal comprehension. It is kool-aid level cult derangement.

Why would a bunch of white Europeans spend nearly a hundred years fighting over a pile of sand in the middle east?

Hint: that's where they're actually from. They were in Europe because they were exiled there.

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All the media(who are super pro-Israeli and many are speaking at the event) say it is about 60k.

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Anonymous wrote:Tens of thousands of people marching to celebrate genocide. No one is going to convinced to support Israel from this stunt. If anything, it’s the opposite.

I mean this rally could have been named, “Support for genocide” I mean do people have no shame these days???

Obviously you aren’t there or you wouldn’t say this. Absolutely no one is marching to support genocide and almost every speaker has mentioned innocent Palestinian lives lost and hopes for peace in the region. Sorry that it doesn’t fit in with your narrative.

Zionism explicitly calls for genocide. This march was all for the complete abolition of the Palestinian people and their removal from their generational homeland. Yes, we save Van Jones call for peace - and then we saw the pro-genocide crowd break into "no ceasefire" chants.

These people are complete and utter monsters. I don't think there's anyway that Israel can recover its image from this - at least not from those that believe in human rights. The far right and evangelicals love it because they also believe in mass extermination of those that they deem unworthy. Couldn't have found better bedfellows.

You are completely delusional.

What I call delusional are the pro-genocide denialists who pretend like they haven't been in favor of displacing millions of Palestinians from their homes. When you takeover land that has millions of native inhabitants, what do you think will happen to them? Zionism is colonialism and we should not be having valid discussions on these issues in 2023. The fact that you believe the right of Palestinians born and raised in the region can be displaced by immigrants from Europe and the US who had not stepped foot in Palestinian for 2000 years is shocking and abhorrent.

We need to start calling Israel out for the war crimes and terrorism that it has undertaken daily for the past 75 years.

The Palestinians could have had their own state, but they rejected it and launched a new intifada. The Israelis left the Gaza Strip in 2005, and Hamas decided to turn it into a terrorism factory, rather than improve life for their own people. They are largely reaping what they sowed.

You're just another empty-headed progressive, bleating vapid propaganda phrases. Your understanding of history, or lack thereof, is just embarrassing and sad. You should go back to tearing down posters of kidnapped Israeli kids and threatening Jewish college girls, rather than trying to talk with adults.

Honestly, STFU. We're so tired of these lies. Israel offered crap terms with no right of return, no safety for Palestinians and no right to E Jerusalem. There were zero bona fide efforts by them. Israel deliberately gave crappy deals so that people like you could then say "but but the Palestinians!!!".

Israelis are murderous terrorists who stole land and killed natives. They've been on a misinformation binge for 75 years trying to rewrite history to center them as the victims. It is BS and we are not buying it any more. Everything that Israel has claimed has been a lie and we have seen it in real time.

While you cry for another genocide, we're trying to prevent it. We know what side of history that you are on.

Listen, kid, I'm not some Jewish college student you and your Hamas-loving buddies can bully and scare into silence.

You've been brainwashed by anti-Semitic propaganda, and now go around bleating catchphrases that you think make you look deep and progressive. You're just embarrassing yourself at this point. You probably list your pronouns in all your social media, and begin every meeting with a land acknowledgment.

Your Hamas homies are now discovering that it's a lot less fun to face the IDF, as opposed to murdering and raping unarmed teenagers and the elderly.

No, I've actually read the history. Jews landed from Europe to settle the Palestinian Territory. There were millions of natives there. They killed and displaced them. They burned villages, stole homes, raped women and forced thousands into exile. They've since forced the remaining natives into a military dictatorship and apartheid.

how you guys continue to support that becuase you are the "chosen ones" is really beyond any normal comprehension. It is kool-aid level cult derangement.

No, Jews didn't "land" in Israel. Hundreds of thousands of them already lived there pre-1948. Others arrived as refugees from Europe. Others were forced there when the rest of the Muslim world kicked them out.

Jews are just as "native" to Israel as Palestinians (who, as Arabs, are the descendants of a group of invaders from the Arabian peninsula).

Hilarious. By "others" PP means over 80% of the Israeli population. They are so native that over 80% came from Europe because those Europeans had a greater claim than the thousands of people living and working on the land at the time. Sure. Their 20000000 year old ancestors claim trumps the guy born in the house you stole. Got it.

A 2000 year old history does not give you carte-blanche to murder everyone. Why is this so hard?

Given that the Palestinians population is growing at a faster rate than the Israelis, it seems like Israel is piss-poor at genocide.

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Others brandished homemade signs declaring, “Make Gaza Flat Again.”

Well, that's definitely a call for peace.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/11/14/march-for-israel-dc-rally-national-mall/

And when individuals carried - and carry - signs during free Palestine matches depicting cleaning the world of Jews and chanting gas the Jews etc that’s a call for peace? I remember pro- Palestine supporters saying “but it’s just one!!!” Can’t judge all by one”

Ok, so which is it?

Are both examples isolated extremist outliers or not?

Yes, but in the case of pro Palestinian marchers there are more such extreme individual examples.

Not sure what you think is extreme, but I have not seen any racist or antisemitic signs at any of the pro-Palestine marches. I have seen a lot of anti-Zionist signs, but you can hardly expect a Palestinian to support Zionism! Why wouldn’t they march against it?

Ok how would you describe signs of Israel flag/ Star of David being thrown into the trash with writing “clean the world?”

That was one sign and it was in Poland.

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Anonymous wrote:Tens of thousands of people marching to celebrate genocide. No one is going to convinced to support Israel from this stunt. If anything, it’s the opposite.

I mean this rally could have been named, “Support for genocide” I mean do people have no shame these days???

Obviously you aren’t there or you wouldn’t say this. Absolutely no one is marching to support genocide and almost every speaker has mentioned innocent Palestinian lives lost and hopes for peace in the region. Sorry that it doesn’t fit in with your narrative.

Zionism explicitly calls for genocide. This march was all for the complete abolition of the Palestinian people and their removal from their generational homeland. Yes, we save Van Jones call for peace - and then we saw the pro-genocide crowd break into "no ceasefire" chants.

These people are complete and utter monsters. I don't think there's anyway that Israel can recover its image from this - at least not from those that believe in human rights. The far right and evangelicals love it because they also believe in mass extermination of those that they deem unworthy. Couldn't have found better bedfellows.

You are completely delusional.

What I call delusional are the pro-genocide denialists who pretend like they haven't been in favor of displacing millions of Palestinians from their homes. When you takeover land that has millions of native inhabitants, what do you think will happen to them? Zionism is colonialism and we should not be having valid discussions on these issues in 2023. The fact that you believe the right of Palestinians born and raised in the region can be displaced by immigrants from Europe and the US who had not stepped foot in Palestinian for 2000 years is shocking and abhorrent.

We need to start calling Israel out for the war crimes and terrorism that it has undertaken daily for the past 75 years.

The Palestinians could have had their own state, but they rejected it and launched a new intifada. The Israelis left the Gaza Strip in 2005, and Hamas decided to turn it into a terrorism factory, rather than improve life for their own people. They are largely reaping what they sowed.

You're just another empty-headed progressive, bleating vapid propaganda phrases. Your understanding of history, or lack thereof, is just embarrassing and sad. You should go back to tearing down posters of kidnapped Israeli kids and threatening Jewish college girls, rather than trying to talk with adults.

Honestly, STFU. We're so tired of these lies. Israel offered crap terms with no right of return, no safety for Palestinians and no right to E Jerusalem. There were zero bona fide efforts by them. Israel deliberately gave crappy deals so that people like you could then say "but but the Palestinians!!!".

Israelis are murderous terrorists who stole land and killed natives. They've been on a misinformation binge for 75 years trying to rewrite history to center them as the victims. It is BS and we are not buying it any more. Everything that Israel has claimed has been a lie and we have seen it in real time.

While you cry for another genocide, we're trying to prevent it. We know what side of history that you are on.

Listen, kid, I'm not some Jewish college student you and your Hamas-loving buddies can bully and scare into silence.

You've been brainwashed by anti-Semitic propaganda, and now go around bleating catchphrases that you think make you look deep and progressive. You're just embarrassing yourself at this point. You probably list your pronouns in all your social media, and begin every meeting with a land acknowledgment.

Your Hamas homies are now discovering that it's a lot less fun to face the IDF, as opposed to murdering and raping unarmed teenagers and the elderly.

No, I've actually read the history. Jews landed from Europe to settle the Palestinian Territory. There were millions of natives there. They killed and displaced them. They burned villages, stole homes, raped women and forced thousands into exile. They've since forced the remaining natives into a military dictatorship and apartheid.

how you guys continue to support that becuase you are the "chosen ones" is really beyond any normal comprehension. It is kool-aid level cult derangement.

Why would a bunch of white Europeans spend nearly a hundred years fighting over a pile of sand in the middle east?

Hint: that's where they're actually from. They were in Europe because they were exiled there.

This is so ridiculous. My ancestors came across the Bering Straight when it was a block of ice. Do I get to kill Russians and Chinese to take their land?

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Others brandished homemade signs declaring, “Make Gaza Flat Again.”

Well, that's definitely a call for peace.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/11/14/march-for-israel-dc-rally-national-mall/

And when individuals carried - and carry - signs during free Palestine matches depicting cleaning the world of Jews and chanting gas the Jews etc that’s a call for peace? I remember pro- Palestine supporters saying “but it’s just one!!!” Can’t judge all by one”

Ok, so which is it?

Are both examples isolated extremist outliers or not?

Yes, but in the case of pro Palestinian marchers there are more such extreme individual examples.

Not sure what you think is extreme, but I have not seen any racist or antisemitic signs at any of the pro-Palestine marches. I have seen a lot of anti-Zionist signs, but you can hardly expect a Palestinian to support Zionism! Why wouldn’t they march against it?

Ok how would you describe signs of Israel flag/ Star of David being thrown into the trash with writing “clean the world?”

That was one sign and it was in Poland.

Um, no. There are photos of people with that sign in multiple American cities.

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Anonymous wrote:Tens of thousands of people marching to celebrate genocide. No one is going to convinced to support Israel from this stunt. If anything, it’s the opposite.

I mean this rally could have been named, “Support for genocide” I mean do people have no shame these days???

Obviously you aren’t there or you wouldn’t say this. Absolutely no one is marching to support genocide and almost every speaker has mentioned innocent Palestinian lives lost and hopes for peace in the region. Sorry that it doesn’t fit in with your narrative.

Zionism explicitly calls for genocide. This march was all for the complete abolition of the Palestinian people and their removal from their generational homeland. Yes, we save Van Jones call for peace - and then we saw the pro-genocide crowd break into "no ceasefire" chants.

These people are complete and utter monsters. I don't think there's anyway that Israel can recover its image from this - at least not from those that believe in human rights. The far right and evangelicals love it because they also believe in mass extermination of those that they deem unworthy. Couldn't have found better bedfellows.

You are completely delusional.

What I call delusional are the pro-genocide denialists who pretend like they haven't been in favor of displacing millions of Palestinians from their homes. When you takeover land that has millions of native inhabitants, what do you think will happen to them? Zionism is colonialism and we should not be having valid discussions on these issues in 2023. The fact that you believe the right of Palestinians born and raised in the region can be displaced by immigrants from Europe and the US who had not stepped foot in Palestinian for 2000 years is shocking and abhorrent.

We need to start calling Israel out for the war crimes and terrorism that it has undertaken daily for the past 75 years.

The Palestinians could have had their own state, but they rejected it and launched a new intifada. The Israelis left the Gaza Strip in 2005, and Hamas decided to turn it into a terrorism factory, rather than improve life for their own people. They are largely reaping what they sowed.

You're just another empty-headed progressive, bleating vapid propaganda phrases. Your understanding of history, or lack thereof, is just embarrassing and sad. You should go back to tearing down posters of kidnapped Israeli kids and threatening Jewish college girls, rather than trying to talk with adults.

Honestly, STFU. We're so tired of these lies. Israel offered crap terms with no right of return, no safety for Palestinians and no right to E Jerusalem. There were zero bona fide efforts by them. Israel deliberately gave crappy deals so that people like you could then say "but but the Palestinians!!!".

Israelis are murderous terrorists who stole land and killed natives. They've been on a misinformation binge for 75 years trying to rewrite history to center them as the victims. It is BS and we are not buying it any more. Everything that Israel has claimed has been a lie and we have seen it in real time.

While you cry for another genocide, we're trying to prevent it. We know what side of history that you are on.

Listen, kid, I'm not some Jewish college student you and your Hamas-loving buddies can bully and scare into silence.

You've been brainwashed by anti-Semitic propaganda, and now go around bleating catchphrases that you think make you look deep and progressive. You're just embarrassing yourself at this point. You probably list your pronouns in all your social media, and begin every meeting with a land acknowledgment.

Your Hamas homies are now discovering that it's a lot less fun to face the IDF, as opposed to murdering and raping unarmed teenagers and the elderly.

No, I've actually read the history. Jews landed from Europe to settle the Palestinian Territory. There were millions of natives there. They killed and displaced them. They burned villages, stole homes, raped women and forced thousands into exile. They've since forced the remaining natives into a military dictatorship and apartheid.

how you guys continue to support that becuase you are the "chosen ones" is really beyond any normal comprehension. It is kool-aid level cult derangement.

Why would a bunch of white Europeans spend nearly a hundred years fighting over a pile of sand in the middle east?

Hint: that's where they're actually from. They were in Europe because they were exiled there.

This is so ridiculous. My ancestors came across the Bering Straight when it was a block of ice. Do I get to kill Russians and Chinese to take their land?

Were you exiled from Russia?