DC crime stats - holy Toledo

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:There are roughly 200-300 young men in DC that commit nearly all the violent crime in the city.

Instead of arresting them, we make excuses for why we can't arrest them. The police know who they are. The neighborhoods know who they are. But DC residents twist themselves into pretzels for why we can't arrest them.

All the sympathy is with the criminals; never with the victims.

Ultimately, the crime problem in DC comes down to DC voters. This is what we voted for. That woman with the multiple DUIs that killed three people? That was us. The police chief noting that the average murder suspect has eleven felonies and still walks free? That was us.

This is what we vote for. Until that changes, nothing changes.


So vote republican is your answer for solving crime?


Well, at least OP suggested an attempt to change. What are you suggesting? Any solution?


Restorative justice works, it just takes time. Instead of locking up black and brown kids because we all know you hate them and are scared of them just...existing, why not give them tools to succeed and not be painted as criminals because of their skin color.

Everyone makes mistakes, but you aren't looking to lock up the white and asian kids who do bad stuff are you, you're not painting an entire race as thugs are you because one white kid decides to shoot a school up. Black and brown people need our help, they're oppressed and all you want to do is make it worse for them.

Sometimes I'm so ashamed to be white.


This is ridiculous. You are looking at the statistics that show the results of prioritizing restorative justice over crime prevention. Restorative justice works on non-repeat offenders, the ones who made a mistake but have an inherent sense of right and wrong. Restorative justice will work on these types to prevent recidivism. But repeat offenders and career criminals, ones who have no compunction against repeating crimes as long as they can get away with it, are not very likely to turn around with restorative justice. These are the people that go to jail, serve a term, get paroled and repeat the same types of crimes to go back in.

The system needs to have a mixture of restorative justice and retributive justice and apply the appropriate measures to the appropriate situations and criminals. Applying progressively more and more lenient sentencing across the board, is how we got to where we are. There is no one that is analyzing the situation and the record of the criminals and applying the appropriate penalty or social counseling. You can't apply either method indiscriminately and expect to get a workable system. So, rather than having legislative rules regulating sentencing mandates, the system needs to leave the decision up to someone, like the judge, or a panel, who specifically review each case on a case-by-case basis and determines whether there is evidence that the criminal is likely to be a repeat offender vs someone who is likely to be rehabilitated. But blanket approaches to judicial rulings will never get things right.


Agree. Our system is chock full of repeat offenders who keep repeatedly getting nothing more than a slap on the wrist and then returned right back to the streets. Restorative justice could be used for the stupid first-time offenders, kids who just made a mistake, but needs to be OFF THE TABLE for repeat offenders. For violent repeat offenders, the top priority becomes taking them off the streets. However you want to rehabilitate them is a separate issue that can run in parallel, but which should not be allowed to remove the need to first take them off the streets and remove the threat from the community.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:21 murders in DC so far this month.


Not white, so no one cares.


Apparently the blacks don’t care because they keep killing each other. Go figure.


Word
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:21 murders in DC so far this month.


Not white, so no one cares.


Apparently the blacks don’t care because they keep killing each other. Go figure.


Sure, racist
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:21 murders in DC so far this month.


Not white, so no one cares.


People only care when they want to concern troll about black on black crime or deflect towards police brutality. Nobody gives a damn about black bodies.+


A big part of it's because not enough blacks care about black bodies being killed by other blacks. Far too much of the "snitches get stitches" mentality - everybody knows who's committing the violence but nobody is willing to help police to nail them so nothing ever happens and nothing ever changes.

Tonight two people were shot outside the Greenleaf Rec Center and none of you finger-wagging folk complaining about everyone else concern-trolling give enough of a shit to even be aware.



Fear of reprisal is a thing in the hood, you wouldn't understand since you're white and probaly live in a nice house. You are concern trolling, you don't care about them.
Anonymous
Black on Black crime is definitely a concern in many communities, y'all just don't know because it isn't picked up by the media.

Lots of crime and gang prevention methods exist and take place as well as meetings. But because it isn't sexy like say BLM or marching on police, nobody cares.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:But how about those bike lanes?


DC’s bike lanes suck!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:21 murders in DC so far this month.


Not white, so no one cares.


People only care when they want to concern troll about black on black crime or deflect towards police brutality. Nobody gives a damn about black bodies.+


A big part of it's because not enough blacks care about black bodies being killed by other blacks. Far too much of the "snitches get stitches" mentality - everybody knows who's committing the violence but nobody is willing to help police to nail them so nothing ever happens and nothing ever changes.

Tonight two people were shot outside the Greenleaf Rec Center and none of you finger-wagging folk complaining about everyone else concern-trolling give enough of a shit to even be aware.



Fear of reprisal is a thing in the hood, you wouldn't understand since you're white and probaly live in a nice house. You are concern trolling, you don't care about them.


So you're saying blacks just need to shut up, ignore what they see day in and day out, and just put up with neighbors killing neighbors, not help, and not let anyone ever do anything about it, and at best just sit around waiting for the problem to magically solve itself. You are a big part of the problem.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Black on Black crime is definitely a concern in many communities, y'all just don't know because it isn't picked up by the media.

Lots of crime and gang prevention methods exist and take place as well as meetings. But because it isn't sexy like say BLM or marching on police, nobody cares.


Crime has been on the rise, so it's obviously not working.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Black on Black crime is definitely a concern in many communities, y'all just don't know because it isn't picked up by the media.

Lots of crime and gang prevention methods exist and take place as well as meetings. But because it isn't sexy like say BLM or marching on police, nobody cares.


this is absolutely true. the black community cares deeply about violence - to say otherwise is both ignorant and racist. the media and elites (including black elites) pay little attention to this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:21 murders in DC so far this month.


Not white, so no one cares.


People only care when they want to concern troll about black on black crime or deflect towards police brutality. Nobody gives a damn about black bodies.+


A big part of it's because not enough blacks care about black bodies being killed by other blacks. Far too much of the "snitches get stitches" mentality - everybody knows who's committing the violence but nobody is willing to help police to nail them so nothing ever happens and nothing ever changes.

Tonight two people were shot outside the Greenleaf Rec Center and none of you finger-wagging folk complaining about everyone else concern-trolling give enough of a shit to even be aware.



Fear of reprisal is a thing in the hood, you wouldn't understand since you're white and probaly live in a nice house. You are concern trolling, you don't care about them.


So tell me, what are you going to do about those shootings? Have another useless meeting just like the others that didn't solve anything? And "ohh you don't get to talk about this because you're probably white and live in a fancy house off in some upscale neighborhood and this doesn't affect you anyhow" is a bullshit deflection. 1.) this isn't about ME and 2. ) you're WRONG anyhow because this happened one block from where I live. More likely it's YOU who doesn't live next door to weekly shootings and it is YOU who is the armchair pontificator here, pushing your soft bigotry of low expectations of the black community and painting your fictionalized fantasies of anyone who disagrees with you of being a clueless rich white racist elitist living in a multimillion dollar condo.
Anonymous
what is the best website that puts the DC MD VA crime data on a map with all the detailed Options?
Anonymous
This is interesting. I wonder if a more coordinated approach between DMV agencies is needed as many of these car thefts/jackings cross jurisdictional lines. This particular instance was so extreme and in broad daylight, like GTA come to life.

I have a new driver and soon to be new driver and I worry about what advice to give them.

https://wjla.com/news/local/the-city-is-on-fire-7news-on-your-side-presses-dc-leaders-to-see-if-car-theft-suspects-can-be-held-until-trial-after-stolen-ambulance-chase

Anonymous
Look at the stats.

What a disaster this city has become!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is interesting. I wonder if a more coordinated approach between DMV agencies is needed as many of these car thefts/jackings cross jurisdictional lines. This particular instance was so extreme and in broad daylight, like GTA come to life.

I have a new driver and soon to be new driver and I worry about what advice to give them.

https://wjla.com/news/local/the-city-is-on-fire-7news-on-your-side-presses-dc-leaders-to-see-if-car-theft-suspects-can-be-held-until-trial-after-stolen-ambulance-chase



"Mayor Muriel Bowser has introduced her "Safer Stronger DC" bill, which could be taken up for discussion when D.C. Council reconvenes in the fall after summer recess."

That we have had to wait until fall for the council to be bothered to discuss crime legislation makes me so angry.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is interesting. I wonder if a more coordinated approach between DMV agencies is needed as many of these car thefts/jackings cross jurisdictional lines. This particular instance was so extreme and in broad daylight, like GTA come to life.

I have a new driver and soon to be new driver and I worry about what advice to give them.

https://wjla.com/news/local/the-city-is-on-fire-7news-on-your-side-presses-dc-leaders-to-see-if-car-theft-suspects-can-be-held-until-trial-after-stolen-ambulance-chase



"Mayor Muriel Bowser has introduced her "Safer Stronger DC" bill, which could be taken up for discussion when D.C. Council reconvenes in the fall after summer recess."

That we have had to wait until fall for the council to be bothered to discuss crime legislation makes me so angry.


Whatever. The crime stats have been a factor in us not moving to 2 areas-neighborhoods where we were following real estate. One was where I'd be withing walking distance of the Cathedral Commons Giant. Example of an incident https://www.popville.com/2022/02/dc-unprovoked-assault-cathedral-commons/ Also not buying Hyundai or Kia since relying on a criminal to know models and ease of theft is just silly. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a43941743/hyundai-kia-vehicle-theft-settlement/
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